Linux-Setup Digest #27, Volume #19 Wed, 28 Jun 00 16:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: unwanted win98 drive letter ("N.E.Parris")
Re: About PPPoE (Draco Ravenloft)
Re: newbie question ("Sam Hays")
Web configuration for LRP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Installed Linux OS on CD-R to boot? ("Darren Welson")
Re: Installed Linux OS on CD-R to boot? (Chris Orth)
CD-ROM Not recognized during install (OpenLinux) (Javier Estrella)
Must have Domain name? (Chris)
Re: How escape to edit history (bash) in RedHat 6.2? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
help with GNOME/1.2 Upgrade? (Chris Stump)
Partial Results with a SupraMax 'winmodem?' (Snuggles the Psycho Shepherd)
Re: Installed Linux OS on CD-R to boot? (Doc Shipley)
Installing from source... (steveFarris)
Re: Strange Lilo "LI" problems (Daniil Kolpakov)
Re: Cant create a partition with disk druid?? (newbie (Quad)
Can't open Netscape newsgroups ("James T. Curtis")
RH 6.1 after installation ("Vladimir Royter")
3Com Etherlink III ( 509B ) ("Marko Hirsim�ki")
Re: Red Hat*.kdelnk. Where is it? (D G)
timing of root cron jobs (D G)
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From: "N.E.Parris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unwanted win98 drive letter
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:56:04 +0100
thanks for your help eric!!
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From: Draco Ravenloft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: About PPPoE
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:15:31 -0500
usually yeah.. just change the permissions on the file.
and if you are using Mandrake, RedHat or any of those types of
distros....... install the auto start for bootup that it comes with
Cheung-Yu Chong wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using PPPoE and rp-pppoe-1.9 to connect to internet. To start the
> connection, I need to change to root and then run the script
> "adsl-start". My question is: Is it possible to run the script as a
> user? What is the advantage (or disadvantage) to run the script
> "adsl-start" as root? Is it a must to connect to the internet?
>
> In fact, I faced similar problem when I use kppp and my modem to connect
> to internet. I think it is a general problem about using PPP. Right?
> However,
> I have no idea.
>
> Thank for your help in advance.
>
> Freddy
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From: "Sam Hays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:35:25 GMT
not to undermind james,
additional help:
if you are a true newbie and don't know how to do this, you should be able
to do this from the prompt..
mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom
cd /cdrom
find ./* | grep 86Setup
it will then tell you a directory its in prob (if i remeber redhat
correctly) /RPM/ from the CD.
you go into that directory and do a
rpm -e <filename>
that will install it, then run XF86Setup and u'll be good.
-Sam
"james" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:qyo65.777$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You need to install XF86Setup or something similar. It's on the RedHat CD.
>
>
>
> "sylvain hutchison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > I'm very new to Linux, and I've just installed Red Hat 6.1 on my Pc, I
> > was wondering how could I change my screen resolution, it's just too
> > big.
> >
> > Thanks for any help!!!!
> > Sly.
> >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Web configuration for LRP
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:30:40 GMT
Is there any Web Configuration tools for an LRP distribution? Something
like the Freesco Router or one of those Cable/DSL Routers. Freesco is
OK, but a bit clunky and ugly for the environment it will need to be
installed in. If not, then I guess I will just modify the freesco one
to look descent and function properly.
Thanks
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From: "Darren Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.corel,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Installed Linux OS on CD-R to boot?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:51:55 -0700
Is it possible to install a Linux distribution to a CD-R and boot to the
CD-ROM? How about copy and existing install to a CD-R and boot from this?
I know that the OS needs to access certain files that would be now rendered
unchangeable, but is it feasable to get around this?
I want to burn these to CDs so I can use this like a removable HD.
Darren Welson
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From: Chris Orth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.corel,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Installed Linux OS on CD-R to boot?
Date: 28 Jun 2000 18:05:43 GMT
Just my layman's opinion:
You can get (or can soon get) PROMS with basic linux burnt on them, so in
principle what you are propsing is possible. Also, your typical linux
installation CDROM is bootable and has a mini-linux file system in RAM and
everything - the only difference is that most utilities can't be run. If you
were careful about which apps needed to write to which places you can
probably do it.
Have you searched the usual places (www.linuxdoc.org, freshmeat.net) in case
someone's worked this out already?
Chris
In alt.os.linux Darren Welson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Is it possible to install a Linux distribution to a CD-R and boot to the
: CD-ROM? How about copy and existing install to a CD-R and boot from this?
: I know that the OS needs to access certain files that would be now rendered
: unchangeable, but is it feasable to get around this?
: I want to burn these to CDs so I can use this like a removable HD.
: Darren Welson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Javier Estrella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD-ROM Not recognized during install (OpenLinux)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:30:06 GMT
Hello:
I am trying to install Caldera OpenLinux from a CD.
Here's the problem:
The boot disk works and starts a page where it loads the kernel, boots the
kernel and checks for installed hardware that may contain the packages to
be installed (Or so it says). Apparently, that automatic check isn't
recognizing my CD-ROM. Any advice on how to make my SONY CDU33A-C1
propietary CD-ROM work with the OpenLinux Install?
Thanks in advance,
Javier
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From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Must have Domain name?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:38:53 GMT
Hello,
I'm setting up a Linux machine (RH 6.1) on a our mixed network and I'm still not sure
- Is it imperative to have a fully qualified domain name (and therefore
hostname) in /etc/hosts in order to connect to the net. I really just want
to go live with the minimum configuration for the time being, and deal with
DNS a little bit later if possible. It seems to me that if macs and pc's
don't need em, neither should the linux machine.
Can someone tell me what the absolute minimum requirements are, and what
files, exactly, need to be configged. I can do it manually or with the
network configurator.
Thank you!
chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How escape to edit history (bash) in RedHat 6.2?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:31:07 GMT
In article <8hs30v$djq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
WOOD DAVID M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Howdy, all.
> I'm having difficulties initializing the history editing features
> of bash under Redhat Linux 6.2. (I've done a DejaNews search on
> this and other newsgroups, saw a similar complaint, but no fix.)
>
> To be precise, even with
>
> set -o vi [specifies vi as editor for command history editing]
>
> defined in my .bash_profile file [or executed on the command line],
> I cannot 'escape' to a history-editing mode. (The same
> .bashrc/.bash_profile files work fine under NeXTStep, just not under
> Linux.)
>
> A clue: I have a reliable, UGLY way to work around this problem:
> In a bash shell, type 'bash' AGAIN, then 'set -o vi'.
>
> Works every time, but can anyone suggest a clean fix/explanation?
> Many thanks!
Just put the following two lines in /etc/inputrc or in ~/.inputrc:
set editing-mode vi
set keymap vi
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From: Chris Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with GNOME/1.2 Upgrade?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:27:46 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings,
I am currently running Red Hat 6.2 with GNOME/Enlightenment. I have 2
petty problems.
First of all, I would like to add applets to my panel that launch
applications which run in an X-term. So, I go to add a new launcher to
my panel, enter the name, comment, command, and then I select the "run
in terminal" option. I thought this would just pop-up a new X-term at
the specified program's prompt. However, when I press the launcher it
just pops up a white-colored X-term for a second and then there is
nothing. What is going on? Why doesn't this work? Like I said, this is
petty, but like so many others, I just hate it when things don't work
the way they should--and I get the urge to fix 'em :)
Problem #2 is that whenever I pop a CD in my CD-ROM, GNOME adds an icon
to my desktop for both my CD & ZIP drives...this just drives me crazy.
I would like to create permanent icons on the desktop for these drives
and be able to click on them whenever I want to look at a mounted disk.
I can create the perm. icons, but then whenever I insert a CD, GNOME
just makes an annoying duplicate of the icon I created. No matter how
many times I delete these GNOME-made icons, they just keep coming
back. So, I am wondering what I have to do to stop this...is there a
specific script that controls the auto-create icons in GNOME? What
adjustments do I need to make to my system to stop this icon-madness?
Again, I know its petty, but it does annoy me =)
Finally, is there a way to upgrade to GNOME 1.2 without doing a whole
new GNOME install?
Thanks in advance to all those who reply.
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From: Snuggles the Psycho Shepherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.corel
Subject: Partial Results with a SupraMax 'winmodem?'
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:48:37 -0700
I'm using a diamond SupraMAX 56i PCI modem, Mandrake 7.1, & a PIII
w/256 mb ram, 80 mb swap. Anyhoo I can get as far as a 'modem is busy'
result with the 'query modem' button in the modem setup. Is anyone else
working on this? (this result occurs when I say the modem is on either
dev/tty2 or dev/tty3)
Is there a winmodem /linux project site that anyone knows of? Any help
would be really green.
-Snuggles the P.S.
replies here or to:
louis_a_j@
><nospam><
hotmail.com
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From: Doc Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.corel,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Installed Linux OS on CD-R to boot?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:55:30 GMT
Darren Welson wrote:
>
> Is it possible to install a Linux distribution to a CD-R and boot to the
> CD-ROM? How about copy and existing install to a CD-R and boot from this?
> I know that the OS needs to access certain files that would be now rendered
> unchangeable, but is it feasable to get around this?
> I want to burn these to CDs so I can use this like a removable HD.
>
Sure. It's called a "Live" system. Some distributions have utilities to
help make one, Slackware used to come with one, and it ought to be easy
to set up in any distro. I'd search Google for "live-system CD" Bear in
mind that you're sacrificing /tmp, most of /var, and your swap. This
means a lot of dynamic files like locks and temp files have to live on a
ramdisk, and that your memory can't swap. Big hit on overall performance
unless you got a lotta RAM.
"Swap space? We don't need no steenking swap space!"
--
Doc Shipley
Network Stuff
Austin, Earth
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From: steveFarris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing from source...
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:02:35 -0400
Hi, when upgrading a package by compiling source code how do you get rid
of the old stuff and replace it with new. For instance, if i upgrade
gnome from 0.6 to 1.2, there is a ton of stuff on the system related to
the gnome 0.6 version. I can't really track it all down and delete it
manually, but it really oughta be gone after installing the new stuff.
How do y'all take care of this situation when you are installing from
source code. No RPM or nothin' like that??
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
From: Daniil Kolpakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange Lilo "LI" problems
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:09:45 GMT
Doesn't just "lilo" command reinstalls the LILO? Is it really needed to
reinstall Linux?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I had the same problem...
> On a PC with Win and Linux. I installed LILO in the MBR and Norton
> antivirus corrupted it ! Same problem, same solution...
>
> fdisk /mbr
>
> Reinstall Linux (update) just to reinstall LILO. It's fast.
>
> Bye
>
> Fabrice
>
> In article <zDh65.8095$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Douglas W. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've seen the problem before too, although I won't
> > pretend to understand the root cause as well as the
> > others in this group. In my case, I had installed R.H.
> > on a drive and subsequently tried to clone another drive
> > to this one. My cloning operation was less than successful
> > at clearing the contents of the MBR. Try "fdisk /mbr"
> > using a dos bootable floppy and then giving the drive a
> > fresh install.
> > Hope this helps!
> >
> > Andrew P. Billyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I had a similar problem once before and it was because of the LBA
> in the
> > > BIOS. I changed the drive type from LBA to NORMAL in BIOS and
> everything
> > > worked fine. This may not be the answer, but it worked for me.
> > >
> > > Neil Koozer wrote:
> > >
> > > > "LI" means it's loading things from the wrong physical address on
> the
> > > > hard drive. The bios (at boot time) is doing something different
> with
> > > > sector adresses than what Linux does when it's running. This is
> > > > referred to as a geometry mismatch. The 'linear' option is
> designed to
> > > > fix this problem, but since you tried that, it must be due to a
> strange
> > > > logic design in the bios.
> > > >
> > > > How did you set the CHS geometry in the bios? Did you set the
> numbers
> > > > themselves or select some mode that resulted in those numbers?
> Did you
> > > > partition after setting the numbers?
> > > >
> > > > If the drive itself has LBA capability you can use the nuni boot
> loader,
> > > > which does not use the bios. It does not use the concept of
> cylinders
> > > > or geometry, so the chances are that it would work here. It can
> be
> > > > found at ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/loaders
> > > >
> > > > Neil.
> > >
> >
> >
>
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From: Quad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cant create a partition with disk druid?? (newbie
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:14:03 GMT
Thanks for your post man, Im at work so Ill be sure to check tonight.
I have it set to auto, but it does go to LBA. Its a P2 350 with an
asus 100mhz MB.
It seems the only drives I can make are swap drives, although I didnt
try to make a /home, I did try a / and it gave me the same error, not
enough free space.
It is quite a dilemma for me as I want to set up linux soooo bad!
Thanks again
Trent
]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Trent,
>
> I still do have some ideas on what you can check, make sure that the
> /boot partition doesn't crosses the 1024th-cylinder of /dev/hdb, so
make
> it small (15M) and at the start of the disc. If that doesn't work, you
> can try fitting it on /dev/hda by resizing the partition(s) there. You
> would still need only some 15M there and all the other partitions
could
> still be on /dev/hdb. Just a thought, can you create a /home on
> /dev/hdb? If you can do this that's a sure hint that you're dealing
with
> the 1024 cylinder problem. (check the setting in your BIOS too, is it
> set to LBA?)
>
> Eric
>
> Trent Cook wrote:
> >
> > Eric, many thanks on your post. You have a very good thought here,
the only
> > problem is that my 13 gig is primary master, 5 gig is primary slave
and my
> > cd and cdr are my secondary drives.
> >
> > I have a SCSI drive as well, but am not using for linux....
> >
> > So with your chart the 5 gig western digital would be /HDB
right...well man,
> > thank you soo much for trying...guess Ill just have to keep
searching, or if
> > you have any other thoughts, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Trent
> >
> > "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi Trent,
> > >
> > > I'm making a guess here, and I'm not sure if it's the cause of
you're
> > > problems, but is the 5G drive connected as /dev/hdc?. IIRC
(some/all?)
> > > bios'es cannot boot from anything but hda and hdb, so it might be
so
> > > that diskdruid
> > > -in order to prevent you from making an unbootable system-
doesn't allow
> > > you to create a /boot on /dev/hdc. Connect the HDD as /dev/hdb
and see
> > > if that resolves the problem.
> > >
> > > In case you don't know this yet:
> > >
> > > primary IDE controller : master = /dev/hda
> > > slave = /dev/hdb
> > > secondary IDE controller: master = /dev/hdc
> > > slave = /dev/hdd
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > Trent Cook wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi again,
> > > >
> > > > I figured the best way to get out of my linux mess, was a
complete fresh
> > > > install. Guess not, cause here is my problem:
> > > >
> > > > I have 2 hard drives: one 13gig cut up for windows and one
5gig cut up
> > for
> > > > linux.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that I can only create a swap partion on my 5
gig drive.
> > I
> > > > have deleted all partitions in fdisk, disk druid, linux fdisk,
delpart
> > etc
> > > > etc and every time I come to disk druid in the setup. It says
that I
> > have
> > > > 100% free space on my 5 gig drive, but when I try to create
a /boot or
> > a /
> > > > root drive it says there isnt enough space.
> > > >
> > > > Oddly enough I can create swap files (as many , or as big as I
want with
> > the
> > > > 5 gig drive?)
> > > >
> > > > Why cant I make any other drives? I tried creating them with
fdisk and
> > > > converting to linux but no go.
> > > >
> > > > I did an Fdisk /mbr as well (just cause i ran out of things to
try) but
> > > > nothing.
> > > >
> > > > So I guess Linux doesnt want to go on my machine, but I am sure
that
> > there
> > > > must be something I can do.....isnt there?
> > > >
> > > > Please Help!
> > > >
> > > > Trent (newbie)
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:28:16 -0500
From: "James T. Curtis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can't open Netscape newsgroups
Please help this Linux newby. I'm running Mandrake 7.0 in a dual boot
with Win98. I have Netscape 4.04 running pretty well with Win98se altho
there are some problems.
Using the Netscape 4.7 that came with Mandrake, I have been able to
browse the Web and read my email o.k. but I can't open any newsgroup.
The subscribed newsgroups show up and show appropriate values for total
number of messages etc. but clicking on a newsgroup does nothing and
when I go to the file menu the "open newsgroup" command is grayed out.
As far as I know, the settings are the same in both windows and linux
versions. Any ideas?
Thanks, Jim
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From: "Vladimir Royter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: RH 6.1 after installation
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:40:48 +0200
Can somebody help me?
After successfull installation of RH 6.1 each time on rebooting I see only
LILO message
"Loading Linux" and mashine always down
I've 20Gb harddrive, 128 Mb RAM, Voodoo 3
Thank you
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From: "Marko Hirsim�ki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3Com Etherlink III ( 509B )
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:40:13 +0300
I just changed my os from Win to Linux... But now I'm having problems with
my network card which won't respodt to Linux at all.
I kind of fugure that the problem is the fact that my card is Plug and Play
and I don't have any idea of the IRQ or the address of the card.
Is there some kind of trick on making Linux to understand the P&P card, or
is there a way to disable the P&P from the card and set permanent IRQ and
address for the card?
Please, I'm clueless...
Marko Hirsim�ki
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From: D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Red Hat*.kdelnk. Where is it?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:37:09 -0700
Kheng-Teong Goh wrote:
>
> Can somebody tell me where exactly is those icons in Red Hat 6.2? I
> deleted it.
>
> I need to know where exactly it is installed so I can remove it with the
> kickstart %post.
>
> Please help. Thanks in advance.
I don't know why you'd want them, but if you usually leave your computer
on (so the slocate job can run), try 'locate kdelnk | grep -i red'.
Otherwise, this will take a lot longer, but will be up-to-date: do 'find
/ -mount 2> /dev/null | grep kdelnk | grep -i red' (or something
similar).
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From: D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: timing of root cron jobs
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:38:08 -0700
I only turn my computer on when I'm using it. Because of this, the root
cron jobs (/etc/crontab on my system) don't normally run. Is there a
way that I can set these up to run 10 minutes after I boot the computer,
instead of some fixed time of day?
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