Linux-Setup Digest #95, Volume #19 Thu, 6 Jul 00 12:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: Elm date sent is way off (Bill Pemberton)
NT-linux dual boot (Alex MacPherson)
Re: How to reset root password (slackware) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: NOTHING COMPILES (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: Telnet not starting on RH 6.2 (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: How to re-install windows whithout spoiling Linux (BO)
Re: what the hell is 'Unsolved Symbols' in RH6.2????!!! (James Lothian)
Re: what the hell is 'Unsolved Symbols' in RH6.2????!!! (James Lothian)
Xwindows works during install but not on reboot (George Cooper)
Re: Xwindows works during install but not on reboot
Re: RH 6.2 random rants and raves -- HEY REDHAT! -- Open letter.
(=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: hdparm (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: HP 8100i CDRW not working.... (Carlos)
Re: what the hell is 'Unsolved Symbols' in RH6.2????!!!
(=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: Xwindows works during install but not on reboot
(=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: kernel 2.4.0-test2 can't find ppp0 (Edward Lee)
FAQ (sylvain hutchison)
Re: Xwindows works during install but not on reboot
Where to do this? (RMB)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Pemberton)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Elm date sent is way off
Date: 6 Jul 2000 13:19:48 GMT
In article <395c1b49$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Clinton Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mail sent using ELM 2.4 PL25 on Linux appears to be have sent on Fri
>7/10/2893. Is this a problem with ELM or Sendmail? The CPU date looks
>fine.
>
2.4 doesn't do Y2K. Get 2.5 (from ftp.virginia.edu in /pub/elm).
--
Bill
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From: Alex MacPherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NT-linux dual boot
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 09:30:27 -0400
Quick question:
As recommended (O'Reilly's Running Linux), I am booting lilo from the NT
loader. I included it using the dos utility bootpart.exe. This works
fine.
One problem however, the NT boot loader can no longer find ntoskrnl.exe
and therefore NT does not boot.
Has anyone else seen a similar problem?
--
Alex MacPherson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to reset root password (slackware)
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:36:17 GMT
Well, I reinstalled Linux (from floppies -- argh) and said "no" to
changing the root password during install, and now it works fine. But,
for the academic fun of it, we can continue the discussion.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Nadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the suggestion. I had tried this last night, but no
luck.
> > I still got the login prompt, which would still not prompt for a
> > password.
> >
> > The best I got was doing:
> > Linux init=/bin/sh
> > which got me to a bourne shell prompt without needing a login.
> > However, for some strange reason, my system didn't
> > have /usr/bin/passwd, so I threw up my hands in frustration and am
> > reinstalling (my install reported a seemingly innocuous error on
disk
> > 12, so there is a very small chance that this small error is
screwing
> > things up).
> >
>
> A possibility here -- does your /etc/fstab have /usr in a separate
> filesystem? It could be that /usr isn't automatically mounted in
> single-user mode. [This is the case in many Unixes, such as Solaris
and
> HP/UX] If /usr isn't mounted, you can manually cause /usr to be
mounted,
> then run the passwd command.
No, /usr is on the same filesystem as everything else. I have only one
filesystem on this machine. (The machine is a rather old 486DX33 with
a 400 meg hard drive and 8 megs of RAM. I'm going to be using it as my
firewall/NAT/web/ftp box. Basically, my "Internet server in the
corner". I'm getting sick of rebooting WinNT every 2 days and throwing
my entire LAN down while it reboots. It's experimental -- if it's too
slow, then I'll scrap it.) Anyway, /usr was mounted fine. But,
strangely, even now with this clean install, there is
not /usr/bin/passwd. There is a /usr/bin, but now passwd. Very odd.
Thanks,
Tim
>
> >
> > Thank you very much for the suggestion, however.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > In article <3962aaa4$0$8309$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.) wrote:
> > > Try this... and I'd love to hear if it works:
> > >
> > > At lilo prompt, add "single" after your choice to boot linux.
ie: if
> > you type
> > > linux, you would use:
> > >
> > > linux single
> > >
> > > Change root's password.
> > > passwd root
> > >
> > > reboot
> > >
> > > done
> > >
> > > In article <8ju5kq$b9c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > > >Hey everyone,
> > > >
> > > >I just installed Slackware 7.1, and during the configuration it
asked
> > > >me if I wanted to set a password on root. I said yes, but the
> > > >installer failed to find /usr/bin/passwd. Now when I try to log
in
> > as
> > > >root, it doesn't give a password: prompt and just re-displays the
> > > >login: prompt a few seconds after I type "root" to log in.
> > > >
> > > >Any pointers on how I can reset the root password? I can boot
using
> > my
> > > >boot/root disks, but am unsure if I can mount the hard drive or
set
> > the
> > > >root password on the hard drive installation.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for any help.
> > > >
> > > >Tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > >Before you buy.
> > >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NOTHING COMPILES
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:07:03 +0200
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Oystein Johnsen wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 08:52:18 +1000, Bone Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Is there something you want to talk about? :)
>
> > Running a compile job is very heavy on the CPU, so an over-clocked
> > machine that otherwise runs fine can start falling over when it is given
> > a real heavy work load.
>
> That can be testet, just by starting up MS Office. If you can do that
> without having a hang, you can do anything, I suppose... :) That's my
> experience anyways. I tried overclocking my Celeron 300 to 400 and
> 450, but the computer hung both times when starting Office. The boot
> up into Windows worked fine though. But I *did* however manage to
> clock it up to 308 MHz and keep it stable. I didn't notice any
> difference in speed, but it looks impressive... :D
Or look at www.bitwizard.nl/sig11.
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet not starting on RH 6.2
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:10:23 +0200
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, j. Nyi Zaw Win wrote:
> This reply might be abit too late.. but anyway here it how it goes
>
> AFTER a long troublesome days, I figuredout that the command lines on the
> inet.cof files point to a tcpd deamon which controls and excute the telnetd
> and ftpd commands as required,
>
> upon looking for those commands in /usr/sbin directory, I found out I don't
> have anyof those.
>
> So, I am still trying to figure out how to get them. ;<
>
> if you figure it out, give me a yell too..
They are on the RH62 CD. But in this release, the server and client was
split up, so you need to install telnet-server and wu-ftpd.
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: BO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to re-install windows whithout spoiling Linux
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:30:05 GMT
Hi Eric,
Thanks a million for the reply. I did create a bootdisk when i installed
linux. I will try your advice. If iam not able to do it i will probably
come back to you for more advice!
Thanks again!!
Cheers!!
Bo
Eric wrote:
>
> BO wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gurus,
> >
> > I have Windows98 and Caldera installed in my machine. Now my windows
got
> > screewed up because i did a windows update. So i have to re-install
> > windows. If i re-format my windows partition and re-install windows,
will
> > it over-write my LILO and make my Linux un-usable or still i can use
both
> > like it is now?
> > Please give me advice about how to go about it?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
>
> Installing windows will overwrite the MBR, so if you have lilo installed
> in the MBR, you will not be able to boot lilo from the HDD. So create a
> boot disk in linux before you start installing windows (man mkbootdisk).
> I also advise you to back up any important data, although you'll
> probably ignore this, because installing windows isn't without a risk
> for the data on the disc.
> But in principle it should be possible, without much problems (execpt
> for the MBR part, so MAKE A BOOTDISC!
> BTW. you should already have a bootdisc, it's asked during install if
> one should be created (in RH that is) and you should always say yes.
> Why? because annoying windows virus scanners tend to detect lilo as a
> MBR virus, and are really eager in destroying that "virus" , thus
> leaving you with a non-bootable system. with such a bootdisk you can
> always boot back into linux and restore the MBR with lilo in it.
>
> Eric
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From: James Lothian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what the hell is 'Unsolved Symbols' in RH6.2????!!!
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:33:30 +0100
According to a posting in the linux-kernel mailing list, it's a good
idea to do a make mrproper as the first step of a build. But make
mrproper
deletes your .config file, so it's a good idea to copy it aside first,
if you want to keep it. So the procedure might be:
mv .config ..
make mrproper
mv ../.config .
make dep
make bzImage
&c.
I had the same unresolved symbols problem, and out of all the
undirecting
mucking about that I did, this seemed to be the thing that cured it.
Compiling kernels seems to involve a lot more prayer these days than
it used to :-)
James
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> RH6.2
>
> make xconfig
> make dep clean bzImage
> delete /lib/modules/2.2...
> make modules
> make modules_install
> move the bzImage file to /boot, rename it to vmlinuz-2...
> move the System.map file to /boot, rename to System.map.2.....
> don't have to edit the /etc/lilo.conf, 'cause the file name is the same.
> lilo
> reboot, then I got tons of ''Unsolved Symbols' in boot.
>
> What's going on there?
>
> Any help, please!!
>
> Thanks a lot!!!
>
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> Before you buy.
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From: James Lothian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what the hell is 'Unsolved Symbols' in RH6.2????!!!
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:34:31 +0100
Add me to the list of people who would like to know the answer to this
one. Is it necessary to have System.map point to the system map for
your current kernel? What will break if it doesn't?
James
Brian Rowe wrote:
>
> What exactly is the System.map file?
>
> What does it do?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Cooper)
Subject: Xwindows works during install but not on reboot
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:38:21 GMT
I'm trying to install Red Hat 6.2 on older computer, using a Packard
Bell 1020 monitor. I have all the specs on the monitor and can get
Xwindows to display properly when I do the installation. But when I
reboot and try to startx, I get no display.
This happens even if I redo things and drop down to the lowest type of
minimal Standard VGA display.
Any suggestions? Why would it display when I build the display file
and test it, but not afterward?
Many thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Xwindows works during install but not on reboot
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:46:30 GMT
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:38:21 GMT, George Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to install Red Hat 6.2 on older computer, using a Packard
>Bell 1020 monitor. I have all the specs on the monitor and can get
>Xwindows to display properly when I do the installation. But when I
>reboot and try to startx, I get no display.
>
>This happens even if I redo things and drop down to the lowest type of
>minimal Standard VGA display.
Have you tried running Xconfigurator again?
>
>Any suggestions? Why would it display when I build the display file
>and test it, but not afterward?
>
>Many thanks.
--
It only takes a little bit of bad luck to negate the whole benefit
of "runs everything" for a particualar end user.
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 6.2 random rants and raves -- HEY REDHAT! -- Open letter.
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:54:27 +0200
On 6 Jul 2000, Edward A. Falk wrote:
/* SNIP */
> Geez. And I *still* haven't figured out where the
>
> alias ls='ls --color=tty'
>
> default is specified. What did you do, hard-code it into tcsh?
/etc/profile.d/ on RH6.2 systems.
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: hdparm
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:56:56 +0200
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Carsten Huettl wrote:
> Hello,
>
> where is the best place in the startup files to put a command in the
> startup files like
>
> # /sbin/hdparm -d1 -c1 -k1 /dev/hda
>
> Or is there a better way to make these settings permanent?
That depends a lot on the distro. On RedHat the startup files are in
/etc/rc.d. rc.sysinit or rc.local would be a good choice, as it would be
executed on startup.
---
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No life, no style
-- Morten Bruun
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carlos)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: HP 8100i CDRW not working....
Date: 6 Jul 2000 10:00:11 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I think it would sure make life a lot
>> easier for the average Linux user if distributions just used ide-scsi,
>> and left ide-cd to people that wanted to configure it themselves.
>
>It would surely make life easier for us who have IDE CD burners, but it
>might be a bit of a pain for those with SCSI drives. I've no experience
>using a computer with IDE and SCSI drives, and I don't know how well
>a "real" SCSI driver would coexist with SCSI emulation.
My system has 2 scsi HD's, and ide CDROM and CDRW using the ide-scsi
trick. Works flawlessly but was a pain to configure the first time
(probably would take less than 5' now...). No problem with mixed ide and
scsi systems.
Carlos
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what the hell is 'Unsolved Symbols' in RH6.2????!!!
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:04:02 +0200
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, James Lothian wrote:
> Add me to the list of people who would like to know the answer to this
> one. Is it necessary to have System.map point to the system map for
> your current kernel? What will break if it doesn't?
It means that a loadable kernel module - perhaps some kind of device
driver tries to load some routines / functions, that the kernel does not
have. Without these the module won't work. Like having a stereo rack and
try to install speakers without speaker cables.
Try 'depmod -e' - then it will tell you what functions / routines /
variables are missing.
> Brian Rowe wrote:
> >
> > What exactly is the System.map file?
System.map is a list of all sysmbols in the kernel. It lists all variable
names, function names and their corresponding adress in the kernel.
> > What does it do?
It is used by programs to find out, where in the kernel a given thing is
going on. Like top - it can tell you what kernel operation, a program is
waiting for. If it is not up-to-date, such programs will tell you wrong
things.
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xwindows works during install but not on reboot
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:15:56 +0200
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:38:21 GMT, George Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'm trying to install Red Hat 6.2 on older computer, using a Packard
> >Bell 1020 monitor. I have all the specs on the monitor and can get
> >Xwindows to display properly when I do the installation. But when I
> >reboot and try to startx, I get no display.
> >
> >This happens even if I redo things and drop down to the lowest type of
> >minimal Standard VGA display.
>
> Have you tried running Xconfigurator again?
Xconfigurator behaves strange in a few situations. If it does not work,
try XF86Setup or xf86config.
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: kernel 2.4.0-test2 can't find ppp0
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 08:17:40 -0700
You need a /dev/ppp and some changes to conf.modules. Read the info file
for new changes.
PS: I am running Linux 2.4.0 PPP on HSP modem.
Gene Heskett wrote:
> Unrot13 this;
> Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> HI all;
>
> I finally got a kernel-2.4.0-test2 compiled that doesn't kill socks5 due
> to an 'unable to bind 0.0.0.0:1080' at startup, so that half of the
> conversion is whupped.
>
> But it can't get online because it can't find ppp0. When I go looking
> in the drivers/net or drivers/misc, there is no ppp.c or ppp.o to be
> found. Is this a known problem, or has this all been changed to
> something incompatible with 2.2.15ish stuffs? I do note that pppd has a
> new version number in the 2.4.something area.
>
> Repeated passes thru make xconfig are leaving me even more clueless than
> usual. The only option seems to be ppp_async, the various compression
> schemes and such.
>
> Cheers, Gene
> --
> Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 400mhz
> email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
> ISP's please take note: My spam control policy is explicit!
> #Any Class C address# involved in spamming me is added to my killfile
> never to be seen again. Message will be summarily deleted without dl.
> This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material, is
> � 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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From: sylvain hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FAQ
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 11:29:37 -0700
Can I get the url for the FAQ??
Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Xwindows works during install but not on reboot
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:45:56 GMT
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:15:56 +0200, Rasmus B�g Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:38:21 GMT, George Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I'm trying to install Red Hat 6.2 on older computer, using a Packard
>> >Bell 1020 monitor. I have all the specs on the monitor and can get
>> >Xwindows to display properly when I do the installation. But when I
>> >reboot and try to startx, I get no display.
>> >
>> >This happens even if I redo things and drop down to the lowest type of
>> >minimal Standard VGA display.
>>
>> Have you tried running Xconfigurator again?
>
>Xconfigurator behaves strange in a few situations. If it does not work,
>try XF86Setup or xf86config.
However, unless you are at one of those boundary conditions you
should be able to run Xconfigurator successfully.
--
It only takes a little bit of bad luck to negate the whole benefit
of "runs everything" for a particualar end user.
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Subject: Where to do this?
From: RMB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 08:50:56 -0700
I've been playing around recently with my very first Linux
installation. I was successful at getting Liunx on there. I can
get to the command line and do everything. I then took a shot at
configuring X. That hasn't gone so well. First off, I cannot
find any documentation on my monitor. I thought I knew the
specs, but I think I was wrong. Anyway, I can't get into X.
Here is my prob-
Everytime I reboot, X loads. I don't want X to load. Where in
the OS can I tell X to not load. There is no point in starting
up X when I don't have it configured correctly.
Thanks for the help,
Ryan
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