Linux-Setup Digest #452, Volume #19              Tue, 22 Aug 00 18:13:19 EDT

Contents:
  Re: rpm?  Ways around it? (Colin Watson)
  Re: The best Linux distribution for Server? (Sangohn Christian)
  Ethernet card config (Scott Twitchell - EWB Support)
  After upgrading to unstable, lost internet connection and.HELP PLEASE (AS)
  Re: rpm?  Ways around it? (Dusty)
  Re: unix man pages on line not found on www.manpages.com, duh... (Heiner Steven)
  Re: First drive SCSI - not seen as first drive (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: Ethernet card config (Edward Lee)
  Re: signal 7 - abnormal termination RH6.1 install ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
  $Display Variable? (billy boykin)
  "signal 9" during install of RH 6.2 on older IBM ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
  Re: Default Monitor resolution (Kjell magne Fagerbakke)
  Re: printing problem (Grant Taylor)
  Re: User Crontab (brian)
  Kernel upgrade ("Alex Moen")
  TCP/IP Problem and DLink NIC ("Gabe")
  stream of errors on new install (Jonathan Geisler)
  Re: Installing Mandrake, Stuck on Configure X (Kjell magne Fagerbakke)
  private groups and suse6.4? (Lars Grobe)
  Kernel compiling: I need an expert:) (Paul Pygeon)
  Kernel compiling: help please (Paul Pygeon)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: rpm?  Ways around it?
Date: 22 Aug 2000 19:00:12 GMT

kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I know of the --nodeps flag and don't want to use it since it's there for a
>reason.  I was wondering if there is an easier way then to go and get all
>the dependencies first or if there is a nice setup program i could run from
>the command line or cdrom.

<shameless propaganda>

You could try Debian, whose 'apt-get' tool will automatically go and get
the dependencies for you. :) 'apt-get install package-name' is all you
need.

</shameless propaganda>

-- 
Colin Watson                                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Microsoft deprived consumers of software innovation that they very
 well may have found valuable." - USA vs. MS findings, para. 410

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From: Sangohn Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The best Linux distribution for Server?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:49:31 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:02:16 +0800 Opps! wrote:
> I am going to build a Web server for my school..there will be 1000 users
> a/c with their own homepage,web mail (and access to MySQL, use of Server
> scripting like PHP,PERL ),I am woundering which Linux Dist. can handle
> this job the best, or I should use FreeBSD or something?
If you also want ease of use and maintenance, then I�d suggest Debain.
I�m setting up a server for my home network and it,s easier than I
expected, especially the package management.
It may seem hard at the beginning but once you�re in the matter, you�ll
love it.
BTW you can also get help at linux.debian.user

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:37:08 -0400
From: Scott Twitchell - EWB Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ethernet card config

Hi,
    I recently installed Red Hat Linux (I believe 6.1?, I'm new to Linux) and
got it installed ok, but can't seem to set up my ethernet card to access the
internet (cable modem). My card is a Davicom 9102, and I didn't see any drivers
for this card in the ethernet configuration. Does anyone know if another driver
might work or where I might be able to find drivers that will work with Red
hat?

Thanks,

Scott



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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:59:42 -0400
From: AS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: After upgrading to unstable, lost internet connection and.HELP PLEASE

On aug 12-14, I upgraded my debian to "unstable" and since then I can
not get to internet! I do get the connection establish, but there is no
data flowing, can't get to any web site nor send/receive e-mail nor ping

anywhere like www.debian.org. I know that the connection is alive
(picking up the phone and listening the noise). Please help, I have
tried many things, but no success (6 months of linux experiance and I
still love it). I had no choice but to boot windoze to write this
e-mail. Here is some information about the system:
Kernel 2.2.14
This is what I see in xconsole (before it crashes unfortunatelly-
missinf xfont conf I think):
---- from xconsole -----
..debian diald[249] Calling site 192.168.0.2
..debian chat[7494] send (AT^M) and etc.
..debian chat .....
..debian chat[7494] alarm
..debian diald[249] Connect script timed out. Killing script
..debian diald[249] Sending SIGINT to (dis)connect process 7465
..debian diald[249] Delaying 30 seconds before clear to dial
..debian diald[249] Calling site 192.168.0.2
...and same goes on and on
==========================================
# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway  Genmask             Flags   Metric   Ref   Use
Iface
192.168.0.2   0.0.0.0     255.255.255.255  UH    1       0        0
tap0
192.168.0.0   0.0.0.0     255.255.255.0      U       0       0
0     tap0
0.0.0.0           0.0.0.0     0.0.0.0                  U       1
0        0     tap0

When pinging the followings:
# ping 192.168.0.2
 ==> 100% packet loss
# ping 192.168.0.1
==>OK
# ping 192.168.0.0 -b
==> 100 % packet loss
# ping 0.0.0.0
==> OK

During the boot, I see the following (as much as I can catch, since they

are not seen with dmesg!)
- IP Masquerade port ...(can't catch the rest)
- Linuxconf firewall installed
- paranoia deamons ...
- starting proxy server:squid
- named ...

Here is some snapshots from dmesg
- NET4: Unix domain sockets 1,0 for Linux NET4.0.
- NET4: Linux IPX 0.38 for NET4.0
- Packet log: i_tap0 DENY tap0 PROTO=1 192.168.0.1:8 192.168.0.0:0 L=84
S=0x00 I=17801 F=0x0000 T=64 (#1)
- many more of the above Packet log ... (same)

/etc/sockd.route File:
IP of interface    destination      netmask for destination
0.0.0.0               0.0.0.0           0.0.0.0

Here are the errors I got during the dist-upgrade if they are any
relevant (unconfigured fonts must be the reason for xconsole crash)-
they are in /var/cache/apt/archive though, why am I getting this
errors?:
- emacs20
- emacs20-el
- libio-stringy-perl
- libmime-perl
- libtiff3g-dev
- xfonts-100dpi
- xfonts-75dpi
- xfonts-base
- xf86setup
- xfonts-scalable
- xmanpages
- lprng
=> sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I uninstalled linuxconf, masquerade thinking that might give me a break,

but nothing changed. So I reinstalled them.
Here is my story. I thought it must be because of some firewall or masq
or proxy so I tried to give as much information as I can think of.
Please help. Thanks.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dusty)
Subject: Re: rpm?  Ways around it?
Date: 22 Aug 2000 19:59:03 GMT

Don't do it. I tried it. Things fail miserably. Core files everywhere.....
System was a mess.

Good Luck,
Dusty

Registered with the Linux Counter
http://counter.li.org/
User #179723

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From: Heiner Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc,rec.humor,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: unix man pages on line not found on www.manpages.com, duh...
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:59:21 +0200

Dan Jacobson wrote:

 > > > See `man lilo' to understand how to setup the bootloader.
 > > Hmmm... must apparently install my Linux diskette before being able to see
 > > this manpage for my distibution[?]
 > 
 > To look for manual pages on-line, I guessed and typed in www.manpages.com
 > but got more than I bargained for. :-)

Well, I prefer "http://docs.sun.com", although they have less
pictures ;-)

Heiner
-- 
 ___ _                          
/ __| |_ _____ _____ _ _     Heiner STEVEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
\__ \  _/ -_) V / -_) ' \    SHELLdorado for Shell Script Programmers:
|___/\__\___|\_/\___|_||_|   http://www.oase-shareware.org/shell/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: First drive SCSI - not seen as first drive
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:12:58 GMT

Devin Null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

>>> On installing lilo during setup there is a warning that "sd2a is not the
>>> first drive" even though it is indeed SCSI ID 0 and I boot from it fine
>>> under MS-Windows. 

[...]

Disable the two IDE drives (unplug drives), then run /sbin/lilo again.

Michael
-- 
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
    Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.

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From: Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet card config
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:26:29 -0700

Get the 2.2.14 Dvm9102 driver at http://linnix.com.

Scott Twitchell - EWB Support wrote:

> Hi,
>     I recently installed Red Hat Linux (I believe 6.1?, I'm new to Linux) and
> got it installed ok, but can't seem to set up my ethernet card to access the
> internet (cable modem). My card is a Davicom 9102, and I didn't see any drivers
> for this card in the ethernet configuration. Does anyone know if another driver
> might work or where I might be able to find drivers that will work with Red
> hat?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott


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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: signal 7 - abnormal termination RH6.1 install
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:31:16 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello there,

I'm having similar trouble.  I keep getting a "signal 9" abend when I try and
install RH 6.2 on an IBM PS/Valupoint, 486 via ftp.  There's about 300mb total
on the hdd but it doesn't make it even as far as disk druid, just goes to "going
to insmod vfat.p (path is null) and then craps out.

Any ideas?

/dd


elmar wrote:

> Oh assembled guru:  I keep getting a "signal 7" abend to my attempted
> installation of RH6.1 (custom, both gnome & KDE selected) onto the extended
> partition (lilo to go into /boot, not mbr) of a legacy 496dx2-66 machine (20
> megs of memory, 2 gigs free for linux).  what is "signal 7" and how can I
> avoid it?  It seems to happen part way through loading packages, but long
> before the disk is "full" (unless it's trying to load it into the 16 meg
> /boot or the 60meg /swap...)
>
> - elmar
>
> p.s. this server loses about 50% ofa ll posts.  I'd appreciate e-mail in
> parallel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> thanks


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From: billy boykin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: $Display Variable?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:29:31 GMT

what should this env variable be set to for a thinkpad 770x?  using the
lcd, no attached monitor.  i am getting errors from a variety of
programs statin 'no display name and no $DISPLAY environment
variable'...

help

bb


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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "signal 9" during install of RH 6.2 on older IBM
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:35:44 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


In fact anyone who knows a good place to get RH installation help, maybe
an index of what these "signal 9" messages mean...

\________________________________

Hello there,

I'm having similar trouble.  I keep getting a "signal 9" abend when I
try and
install RH 6.2 on an IBM PS/Valupoint, 486 via ftp.  There's about 300mb
total
on the hdd but it doesn't make it even as far as disk druid, just goes
to "going
to insmod vfat.p (path is null) and then craps out.

Any ideas?

/dd


elmar wrote:

> Oh assembled guru:  I keep getting a "signal 7" abend to my attempted
> installation of RH6.1 (custom, both gnome & KDE selected) onto the
extended
> partition (lilo to go into /boot, not mbr) of a legacy 496dx2-66
machine (20
> megs of memory, 2 gigs free for linux).  what is "signal 7" and how
can I
> avoid it?  It seems to happen part way through loading packages, but
long
> before the disk is "full" (unless it's trying to load it into the 16
meg
> /boot or the 60meg /swap...)
>
> - elmar
>
> p.s. this server loses about 50% ofa ll posts.  I'd appreciate e-mail
in
> parallel to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> thanks




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kjell magne Fagerbakke)
Subject: Re: Default Monitor resolution
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:34:16 GMT


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kichi Leung 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Alfred E. Hawley wrote:
>
>I wonder why your manuals don't say a thing on (re-)configuring X....
>
Could it be that we newbies use the X-login option and after configuration 
everythings goes black/blank. No login is possible anymore. Maybe it is better 
to keep low resolution for a while. At least dont change it as root.

))
km

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From: Grant Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: printing problem
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:51:35 GMT

Alexis Bilodeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a problem setting up an Optra E+ laser printer under Mandrake 7.0
> with PDQ.  I use pdq 2.2.1 with the pdq-o-matic driver for this printer.

> It prints Postscript files only with xpdq, but I can't print from any
> other program, nor can I print other types of file.

> Does someone know what could be the problem?

Sure.  I have not yet written the code to put ascii or other handling
into the PDQ files.  In the meantime, you can simply print everything
via postscript.  It's not quite as fast, but it'll work.

You should be able to print fine from other programs by specifying a
suitable pdq command or just xpdq instead of lpr.

-- 
Grant Taylor - gtaylor@picante<dot>com - http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/
 Linux Printing HOWTO and Website:  http://www.linuxprinting.org/
 I offer consulting in most things Unix/Linux/*BSD/Perl/C/C++

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From: brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: User Crontab
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:46:40 -0500


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After searching the internet, I found the answer that solved my problem.

Anyone wanting to run a program in xwindows at specific times or intervals
can use crontab.   First read the man pages by typing the following at the
unix prompt (found in any terminal):

man crontab

Learn how to write a basic cron statement.

Any xwindow program can be activated on your display server by adding
-display :0.0

For example:

59    15    *    *    *    acroread -display :0.0

This will activate Adobe Acrobat Reader at 3:15pm each day within Xwindows!

brian





brian wrote:

> I have no problem running crontab from root.  Yet, as another user, I
> cannot seem to get crontab going.
>
> Doing the following command does not seem to make it work:
>
> crontab [name of crontab file]
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated to allow a user to use their own
> crontab file.

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After searching the internet, I found the answer that solved my problem.
<p>Anyone wanting to run a program in xwindows at specific times or intervals
<br>can use crontab.&nbsp;&nbsp; First read the man pages by typing the
following at the
<br>unix prompt (found in any terminal):
<p>man crontab
<p>Learn how to write a basic cron statement.
<p>Any xwindow program can be activated on your display server by adding
<b>-display :0.0</b><b></b>
<p>For example:
<p>59&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 15&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
*&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; acroread -display :0.0
<p>This will activate Adobe Acrobat Reader at 3:15pm each day within Xwindows!
<p>brian
<br>&nbsp;
<br>&nbsp;
<br>&nbsp;
<br>&nbsp;
<p>brian wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I have no problem running crontab from root.&nbsp;
Yet, as another user, I
<br>cannot seem to get crontab going.
<p>Doing the following command does not seem to make it work:
<p>crontab [name of crontab file]
<p>Any advice would be greatly appreciated to allow a user to use their
own
<br>crontab file.</blockquote>
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From: "Alex Moen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel upgrade
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:57:46 -0500

Hi

I've successfully downloaded, configured, and (I think!) compiled the 2.2.16
kernel on my 2.2.14.x box (RH6.2).  However, the kernel won't boot.  When
the system comes up, lilo starts and allows me to choose which kernel to
boot.  Then, I get a "Loading......", and finally "Uncompressing Linux...
OK, booting the kernel."  And that's it!   This has happened on 2 different
machines (thought I had a hardware problem on the first one) and I have
{"make mrproper" "make config" "make dep" "make zImage"} 3 different times,
thinking that I had a hardware problem myself.   I have also tried to create
a bootable floppy with this kernel, with no different results (dd if=zImage
of=/dev/fd0).  My kernel is WAY smaller than RedHat's, as I have not
compiled all of the junk in that they do, so I don't (think) I need the
bzImage version, as I am not getting any errors at compile time.

I believe that I have done all that I need to do, unless the 2.2.x kernel
needs lots of other things to happen.  I've copied the zImage to
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16, and updating the /etc/lilo.conf to reflect the new
kernel.  I've also copied the /usr/src/linux/vmlinux to
/boot/vmlinux-2.2.16.  This is what we have always done in the past, and it
has worked fine before (albeit not with the 2.2.16 kernel).

Any ideas?

Alex Moen
Operations Technology Specialist
North Dakota Telephone Company
alexm@@ndtel.com



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From: "Gabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TCP/IP Problem and DLink NIC
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:46:43 -0700

Hi.

I've got an ISA PnP D-Link DE-220 NIC, and I've installed RH 5.2 (the only
version I have available). The setup procedure does not detect my card.
Using linuxconf I've set the appropriate IP, DNS, Gateway, I've set the
device to eth0, the kernel module to generic NE2000 and compatibles, but I
can't get on the Internet (errmsg: host lookup failed). So how do I get my
network card to work? Works fine with Windoze.

I am almost a complete newbie to Linux, at least as a personal operating
system, I've searched for documentation, but I can't find what I need.
Please help me get on the Internet with Linux, I've got other problems (like
X won't work with my ATI Rage Fury Pro AGP) but I'm sure I could solve those
with an OS upgrade, but I need to get online first!!!

Thanks,
Gabe

P.S. Where can I find a *quick* vi tutorial?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Geisler)
Subject: stream of errors on new install
Date: 22 Aug 2000 21:02:50 GMT

I just finished installing Debian 2.2 on my very old Pentium 90 with
540 MB SCSI drive to use as a router for my home network.  I'm having
problems, though, because the following error keeps spewing to the
console (whichever is currently active) so that I can't see what is
going on with my box:

    target 0: rate=10.0 Mhz, synchronous, sync offset=15 bytes

Can you help me find the source of these errors?  Or, at least, how to
keep them off my screen until I can find it myself?  Thanks.

                                                -- Jonathan Geisler --

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kjell magne Fagerbakke)
Subject: Re: Installing Mandrake, Stuck on Configure X
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:19:26 GMT

I don't know if this helps, but I had troubles with my RedHat instalation. 
There, if I remember right, I choosed the default for both monitor and video 
card (hope your system detects both), but any resolution higher than 460/640 
was not possible to get. Than it crashed and I had to do it once more.

km
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>First post here, so forgive any missteps please.
>
>I'm trying to install Linux Mandrake 7.0 for the first time, using the
>graphical install interface, and I'm having trouble at the "Configure
>X" step. I think I am having a problem with either the monitor (I have
>several, none of which are on the list of monitors to choose from) or
>the video card (again, not on the list). It is a Jaton, but which one
>I am not sure, and none of those listed on the choice list seem to
>work. I try to run the test, and it just says "an error occurred, try
>changing some parameters".
>
>I'm at wit's end with this, I'd REALLY like to get this going, having
>already failed many attempted installs of FreeBSD (I guess I'm just
>too ill-informed to do that one, I don't know). I'd heard Mandrake was
>a very easy Unix derivative to install, and it has been, up until this
>point.
>
>Any pointers, tips, questions to help pinpoint the problem are
>welcome.
>
>Thank you.

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From: Lars Grobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: private groups and suse6.4?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:36:14 +0200

Hi!

Is there a way to use private groups (one group
per user) in suse6.4?

The problem is that I need a group of admins
who need access of all homes, and as there are
>300 users, they would have to be members of
more than 300 groups...

How can I solve this?

Thank you CU, Lars.

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From: Paul Pygeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Kernel compiling: I need an expert:)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:53:59 -0400

Hi,

I've tried to compile a 2.4.0-test6 kernel and everything
works fine until I tried to make modules. At this time
I've the message below.

Also, if I try to boot with my new kernel, I get this
message:
"Warning: unable to open an initial console
Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel"

and everything freeze.

If someone can help, it will be appreciate

Many thanks

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From: Paul Pygeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel compiling: help please
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:56:16 -0400

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Hi,

I've tried to compile a 2.4.0-test6 kernel and everything
works fine until I tried to make modules. At this time
I've the message below.

Also, if I try to boot with my new kernel, I get this
message:
"Warning: unable to open an initial console
Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel"

and everything freeze.

If someone can help, it will be appreciate

Many thanks
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emd.c: In function 'umsdos_emd_dir_readentry':
emd.c:145: invalid operands to binary -
emd.c: In function 'unmdos_writeentry':
emd.c::264: invalid operands to binary -
emd.c::264: invalid operands to binary -
emd.c::264: invalid operands to binary -
make[2]: *** [emd.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux/fs/umsdos'
make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_umsdos] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux/fs'
make: *** [mod_fs] Error 2

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