Linux-Setup Digest #623, Volume #19              Thu, 14 Sep 00 18:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Can't Gnome to work after install (Steve Willoughby)
  Re: IP Difficulties. Long live linux gurus! (Buschman)
  ISAPNP ad1816 sound card problem (Pieter van Beek)
  Re: IP Difficulties. Long live linux gurus! (Bill Unruh)
  installing linux w/out floppy drive or cdrom (Hal Sadofsky)
  Setting up printer (BJ200) ("Rob Sykes")
  Re: Dumb start-up question (Steve Bradley)
  Red Hat 6.1 crash on install (Jamie)
  RE: HELP, sawmill busted ("Xos� Calvo")
  Re: SWAP partition size? ("ne...")
  network backup information needed ("Rloc")
  Sendmail ("Rodolpho H. O. Eckhardt")
  HP4500 print driver (Samuel McClure)
  tar date format (Dmitry Litvintsev)
  Re: Sendmail (Jan Johansson)
  Re: binfmt_misc (Aitzgorri)
  Re: KDE problem (1stFlight)

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From: Steve Willoughby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't Gnome to work after install
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:28:37 GMT


Rollin Webb wrote:
> 
> 
> While installing RH 6.2 I selected the non-GUI login.  Now that the 
machine
> is booting I can't figure out how to start gnome.
> 
> How do I initialize the GUI login interface?
> How do I bring up gnome w/o the GUI?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Rollin
> 
> 
> 
Red Hat gnome requires some things be running that aren't started by startx
so you get errors if you start that way.  The correct way to start gnome if
you intend that the machine normally be in text mode is to issue the 
command "telinit 5" after you have logged in on a text console.  This tells 
the init process to go to runlevel 5 which is the GUI login etc.  If you 
want to change the default mode from text to GUI, you can modify init's 
config table, /etc/inittab, for the is (initial state) entry from 
(probably) 3 to 5, which will put the machine in GUI mode after the boot up 
is complete.  Doing the opposite will change a default GUI environment to 
text only.

Note that even while the GUI login screen is displayed on virtual console 
7, you can ctrl-alt-Fn (Fn=function key 1 - 6) to switch active consoles 
from the GUI screen to one of the other 6 text screens.  Alt-Fn shifts 
between text consoles and console 7, the GUI.  The main disadvantage of 
always running the GUI environment is the extra overhead in CPU cycles and 
memory to run the GUI if you don't need it.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Buschman)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: IP Difficulties. Long live linux gurus!
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:52:22 GMT

On 14 Sep 2000 17:19:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) wrote:

>
>]I am having a network problem and used your netstat -rn command and
>]something interesting came up:
>
>]Destination      Gateway      Genmask   Flags  ...    Iface
>]209.221.101.49            0.0.0.0     255.255.255.255  UH             eth0
>]209.221.101.32            0.0.0.0     255.255.255.224   U             eth0
>
>As I understand it, an address is
>bitwise ANDed with the Netmask. This is then compared with the
>"destination" address and if they agree, then this is a matching route.
>The U on that line says that this is supposed to be a subnet (rather
>than UH for host and UG for gateway) Your netmask has the 1 2 4 8 and 16
>bits 0 in the last byte, so any address in the range 32-63 should match
>this and be sent out on the eth0 interface.
>


You are losing me a bit here.  I understand how binary numbers work.
But shouldn't I have a single entry here?






>
>The broadcast address is the subnet with all of the final bits set to 1
>(your address AND Netmask)+(NOT Netmask), where NOT is the bitwise NOT.
> 142.103.234.32 + 31
>This is fine.

I think I follow you here.


>
>
>]Now what is a broadcast???  Why has it choosen the last address in my
>]IP range(.33 - .63)?  I have tried changing it by typing ifconfig
>]broadcast 209.221.101.33, but it never works.  Sometimes it changes to
>]209.221.101.255, sometime it changes the inet addr.  But no matter
>]what, whenever I reboot the machine it always resets to the numbers
>]above.
>
>The broadcast gives the machines to whom the broadcast is directed a
>hint as to which machines it is destined for. Ie, Broadcast AND machineIP=machineIP
>tells the machine it should pay attention to the broadcast. (broadcasts
>are IP messages which are usually general queries-- eg arp queries--
>could the machine with some IP address please tell me its ethernet MAC
>number.)
>
>]Finally how can I fix this problem?
>
>What problem?
>

I have no networking.  I can only ping myself.  I previously had a 6.1
mandrake install that worked fine.  I now am using Mandrake 7.1 and
the install was totally different.  But I basically copied all my
linux conf settings down and have plugged them into this machine.
However, the networking is not functioning.  The very first time I ran
7.1 the DNS resolution did function out side of my ip range and I
could ping outside machines, but not the ones in my IP range and not
my own router.  So i guess through fiddling that isn't working either.
Basically all I can do is ping myself and resolve my own domain name.

Thanks for your help.

Buschman


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From: Pieter van Beek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISAPNP ad1816 sound card problem
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:55:34 +0200

I have an ad1816 pnp sound card, and RH6.0, kernel 2.2.5

The problem is, it won't play a sound. The mixer works, though, I can test that with 
the microphone.
Below, there's some more information about what I found out so far. Does anyone knoe 
what could be going on here?

Pieter van Beek.

when running isapnp is run, it complains:

Board 1 has Identity 2f ff ff ff ff 81 71 93 04:  ADS7181 Serial No -1 [checksum 2f]
isapnp.conf:64 -- Fatal - resource conflict allocating 16 bytes of IO at 220 (see 
isapnp.conf)
isapnp.conf:64 -- Fatal - IO range check attempted while device activated
isapnp.conf:64 -- Fatal - Error occurred executing request '<IORESCHECK> ' --- further 
action aborted

After removing the (CHECK) option in the corresponding line in isapnp.conf, it works:

Board 1 has Identity 2f ff ff ff ff 81 71 93 04:  ADS7181 Serial No -1 [checksum
 2f]
ADS7181/-1[0]{Analog Devices AD1816A}: Ports 0x220 0x388 0x530; IRQ5 DMA1 DMA3 -
-- Enabled OK

Loading the module goes fine, too:

Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: AD1816 sounddriver Copyright (C) 1998
by Thorsten Knabe
Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: $Header: /home/tek/tmp/CVSROOT/sound21
/ad1816.c,v 1.28 1999/01/16 19:01:36 tek Exp $
Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: io=0x530, irq=5, dma=1, dma2=3, isadma
bug=0
Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: detect(530)
Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: detect() - Detected OK
Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: AD1816 Version: 1
Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by Hannu
 Savolainen, Rob Hooft 1993-1996

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: IP Difficulties. Long live linux gurus!
Date: 14 Sep 2000 19:39:17 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Buschman) 
writes:
]>
]>]I am having a network problem and used your netstat -rn command and
]>]something interesting came up:
]>
]>]Destination     Gateway      Genmask   Flags  ...    Iface
]>]209.221.101.49           0.0.0.0     255.255.255.255  UH             eth0
]>]209.221.101.32           0.0.0.0     255.255.255.224   U             eth0
]>
]>As I understand it, an address is
]>bitwise ANDed with the Netmask. This is then compared with the
]>"destination" address and if they agree, then this is a matching route.
]>The U on that line says that this is supposed to be a subnet (rather
]>than UH for host and UG for gateway) Your netmask has the 1 2 4 8 and 16
]>bits 0 in the last byte, so any address in the range 32-63 should match
]>this and be sent out on the eth0 interface.
]>


]You are losing me a bit here.  I understand how binary numbers work.
]But shouldn't I have a single entry here?

No. The first entry says" If you want to send something to and address
of a host labeled 209.221.101.49 send it out on the eth0.
The second says if you find any address such that when you bitwise AND
it with the netmask you get 209.221.101.32 send it out on the eth0.
Although this entry includes  209.221.101.49, it is more general. Any
address in the range 209.221.101.32-63 will get sent out on  eth0 from
this entry. It will just generally get dumped onto the ethernet and
assumed that the correct machine will pick it up. (of course it may well
make things more efficient and set up arp table entries for specific
addresses in this subnet and then send the messages directly to those
MAC addresses, but that is a subtlty not important here).

The final entry says " if you get any address ( since the bitwise and
with that netmask always gives 0.0.0.0 and the address is just that)
send it specifically to the machine 209.221.101.33 for it to handle.
That machine is a gateway.

The protocol always chooses the most specific route, so stuff on your
subnet will not get sent to the gateway, even though they fall under the
default criterion, because you have a more specific (netmask has fewer
zeros) route (the second one) to those systems. 






]>]Finally how can I fix this problem?
]>
]>What problem?
]>

]I have no networking.  I can only ping myself.  I previously had a 6.1
]mandrake install that worked fine.  I now am using Mandrake 7.1 and
]the install was totally different.  But I basically copied all my

Ah. OK, now we can try to narrow things down. 
What happens when you do 
ping  209.221.101.33
do you get a response. If so, do you get a response when you ping that
machine by name? If not then you have problems with your dns lookup
(look at your resolv.conf file for entries for nameservers.)

YOur routes look fine.
 
]linux conf settings down and have plugged them into this machine.
]However, the networking is not functioning.  The very first time I ran
]7.1 the DNS resolution did function out side of my ip range and I
]could ping outside machines, but not the ones in my IP range and not
]my own router.  So i guess through fiddling that isn't working either.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Sadofsky)
Subject: installing linux w/out floppy drive or cdrom
Date: 14 Sep 2000 19:44:23 GMT

We have several intel boxes that I want to install a recent linux
distribution on.   They have hard disks, and ethernet cards, but no 
floppy drives or cd drives.

Does anyone have any advice?  Here's what I've tried:

1) The BIOS will try to boot from the net, so I succesfully configured
   another machine to give it an ip address, and a boot file (I used
   the bootnet.img from RH 6.2).  But it turns out that the machine
   is allowed at most 512K for a boot file, and of course the bootnet.img 
   is larger than that.

2) I put bootnet.img on the machine's hard drive (it is already linux) 
   and tried to convince lilo to boot it.  Of course that didn't work
   either since bootnet.img is really not a kernel image.

        thanks in advance,
                Hal Sadofsky



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From: "Rob Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Setting up printer (BJ200)
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:13:10 +0100

Hi all,

Am trying to setup my printer (still) under Suse 6.4

The installation seems to work fine but nothing prints
All queues, etc appear to be running as they should

I found these messages at the end of /var/log/messages


Sep 14 20:55:44 linux kernel: i810_configure<6>parport0: PC-style at 0x378
[SPP,PS2]
Sep 14 20:55:44 linux kernel: parport_probe: failed
Sep 14 20:55:44 linux kernel: parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present.
Sep 14 20:55:44 linux kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling).
Sep 14 20:55:51 linux kernel: lp0 off-line


Any clues, anyone ?

Rob Sykes







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From: Steve Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dumb start-up question
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:21:12 GMT

richard wrote:

> I feel embarassed about having to ask this, but...
>
> I am running RH 6.x.  How do I get xntpd to load on boot-up?  Can I add
> this to /etc/inetd.conf, or is there another file that loads daemons at
> start up?  TIA

Personally, I'd put it into my /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, then it will get
loaded by the init script.

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From: Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Red Hat 6.1 crash on install
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:29:09 GMT

Upon trying to install Red Hat 6.1 on Packard Bell 486, I get
"installation abnormally terminated signal 7"...Is there any patch or
fix for this...Machine has 8MB of RAM running Win95...One clue may be
that I have to specify parameters for my Creative Sony CDROM (Sony
CDU-33A)...I'm  specifying Red Hat to use the Sony CDU-31A driver with
parameters:port=0x230 and IRQ=0 because it asks for the device driver
during Floppy Boot.... It then finds the driver, initializes and then
the CD spins like it's reading the files and installing but I don't
see anything but the blue Welcome to Red Hat screen and blinking
cursor...After 20-25 minutes of the disc spinning  is when I get the
"installation abnormally terminates with signal 7" message...Please
Help!!

Thanks

Jamie 

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From: "Xos� Calvo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: RE: HELP, sawmill busted
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:30:27 +0200

Same problem in SuSE 6. Must be helix-code.

Xos�






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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SWAP partition size?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:36:43 GMT

On Sep 14, 2000 at 18:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently wrote:

>Hello all
>
>My computer has a P166 processor, 32 MB of RAM and a 3g HD. I want to
>Install Redhat's Linux 6.2 and the manual says to create a swap
>partition at the same size as the RAM. Now I only have 32mb, so why wont
>I make a larger swap partition, like 128mb or so? Will it improve/hurt
>the system performance?
64MB swap should be enuf, 128MB may be over kill. This
depends on what you want to use the machine for. Improve,
yes; hurt, no.


>I have also thought about creating only one large partition of what left
>of the HD (after creating the swap and the boot partitions). Does it
>have any disadvantages?
Yes. I would create a partition for /home at the minimum.
This is so that when you upgrade in the future, you still
have your user data. With one partition, that data will be
lost on upgrade.

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From: "Rloc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: network backup information needed
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:58:19 +0200

I am currently using Mandrake 2.2-14-15mdk on a pilot network at home
consisting of 4 W9x boxes and the linux box as a server. After this set-up
has
been debugged properly I intend to inplement it at work with 12 W9x boxes.

These 12 W9x boxes are currently on a peer-to-peer network and are backed up
over the network onto a tape drive on a dedicated PC. When I upgrade to a
Linux server I will obviously require the backups to be done on the server.

The server hardware will probably be a PIII 700-800Mhz with 256Mram and a
30-40 Gbyte hard drive. This will be a data file server not an application
server.

We currently backup onto tape and a full data backup takes up about 3GBytes
although this will increase to 5 or 6 GB shortly.

Question: What do you Linux experts consider to be a fast, reliable and
Mandrake-compatible backup system?

I will consider any medium from conventional tape to DAT, DLT, CD-RW etc
but my main concern is Linux compatibility.

Please post replies on this newsgroup or mail me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks

Robert



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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:45:08 -0300
From: "Rodolpho H. O. Eckhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Sendmail

I need some help.

Everytime sendmail tries to start it fails, i have reconfigured it, but
it still fails.
What could be wrong?

Thanks,
Rodolpho


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From: Samuel McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP4500 print driver
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:23:01 -0500


I just got a new HP4500 color laser and would REALLY like to print to it
from Linux.  Does anybody know where I can get an appropriate driver? 
Or if not, is it possible to print to it through my Win2000 machine?  Or
is there any way to get the appropriate specs so I can hack a driver
myself?


Thanks in advance for any help,

Samuel McClure

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Dmitry Litvintsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tar date format
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:33:16 -0500

Hi,

sorry, it is a bit offtopic, but I'm desperate.
I want to tar files which are newer than DATE. there is an option -
'newer'

  tar cvfz --newer=200001012359.59 fille.tgz *

fails saying 'invalid date format'. What is the valid DATE format - man
tar gives
no clue. Anybody knows it?

regards,
Dmitry


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From: Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Sendmail
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:51:53 GMT

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:45:08 -0300, "Rodolpho H. O. Eckhardt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I need some help.
>
>Everytime sendmail tries to start it fails, i have reconfigured it, but
>it still fails.
>What could be wrong?

Most likely:

1. Your box does not have a FQDN defined
2. There is no DNS to verify the ip/FQDN of the host.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aitzgorri)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,fa.linux.kernel,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: binfmt_misc
Date: 14 Sep 2000 11:57:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Il Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:41:00 +0200, Tomas Kral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto
>How can I create binfmt_misc dir in /proc/sys/fs ? 
>/proc is mounted with none device.
>
>I'd love to insert a few binary formats as described in 
>/usr/src/linux/Documentation/binfmt_misc.txt while the support is 
>compiled in as CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m.
>

in /etc/rc.local I recall the script:
/etc/rc.d/associazioni

here it's content:
S*************
#!/bin/bash

/sbin/modprobe binfmt_misc

echo ':JPG:E::jpg::/usr/bin/gqview:' > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register
echo ':BMP:E::bmp::usr/bin/gqview:' > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register
echo ':TXT:E::txt::/usr/bin/vim:' > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register
echo ':PS:E::ps::/usr/X11R6/bin/gv:' > /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register
E*************

in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/binfmt_misc.txt you'll find some examples.


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From: 1stFlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: KDE problem
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:20:56 +0000

If you're using kppp to connect, there's an options "configure hostname
from this address" I believe.. if it's selected your machine will (appear)
lock because X Windows now thinks you're not coming from the console.


DArryl

Thomas wrote:

> After conneting on the Internet and launching Netscape, I cannot launch
> any other applications.
> Can anyone tell what's wrong with this?
> My computer is a toshiba 4100CDT notebook with slackware7.1, XF86(3.36),
> Xircom(10/100 + 56k) and KDE installed.
>
> Also, can anyone tell me how to netvigate web page by using keyboard
> only?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Thomas


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