Linux-Setup Digest #656, Volume #19              Wed, 20 Sep 00 07:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Making LILO wait? [Solved!] (please hold)
  telnet problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  SuSE 7.0 + GeForce2 GTS? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Partition Problems (Hanno =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6ttcher?=)
  lilo-ide drives and win/linux (Jerry Jaskierny)
  Module Problems
  Re: Partition Problems (Eric)
  Re: Partition Problems (KeithM)
  Re: Changing from RedHat to Mandrake. ("����")
  Re: Samba setup ("Jason Byrne")
  Re: telnet problem ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
  Re: Directory Structure [ and other animals ] ("Ian Henderson")
  Re: SCSI Sloooowdown? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: HP 693 Problems (Anita Lewis)
  Re: External Modem Woes (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning) (Bernhard Mogens Ege)
  Re: Soundblaster 64V PCI Snd card ("rene wesselink")

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From: please hold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making LILO wait? [Solved!]
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:45:47 GMT

In article <8q89e8$384$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  please hold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>   How can I make LILO wait until I tell it to boot?
>
>   In `man lilo.conf' I read this:
>
>   `prompt': forces entering the boot prompt
>   without expecting any prior key-presses.
>   Unattended reboots are impossible
>   if `prompt' is set and `timeout' isn't.
>
>    I took that to mean:
>
>    If
>    the keyword/verb `prompt' is present in lilo.conf
>    and
>   `timeout' is absent
>    then
>    LILO will not do anything
>    until
>    the user types something in.
>
>    But that is not what seems to have happened.
>
>    I took the `timeout' spec out of my lilo.conf
>    but LILO went right ahead
>    and booted the first boot image mentioned therein:
>
>   boot = /dev/hda4
>   prompt
>     default = redhat61
>     vga = normal
>     read-only
>   map = /boot/map
>   install = /boot/boot.b
>   image = /boot/vmlinuz
>     label = redhat61
>     initrd = /boot/initrd
>     root = /dev/hda4
>   other = /dev/hda1
>     label = windowsme
>     table = /dev/hda
>
>   How can I make LILO hold off until I tell it to boot?
>

   I deleted `prompt' and now LILO sits and waits.

>   `prompt': forces entering the boot prompt
>   without expecting any prior key-presses.

   A man could go crazy trying to make sense out of that.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: telnet problem
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:50:09 GMT

hi
i'm newbie to linux
i just installed redhat 6.2, the gnome workstation version
however, i can't telnet to my machine
i get this error
Connection closed by foregin host.
i used rpm to install inetd
added the line
telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/telnetd in.telnetd -b/etc/issue
to inetd.conf
i looked in hosts.deny and there are no entries
i set hosts.allow to ALL:ALL:ALLOW
it still doesn't work after all that
any ideas or suggestions? thanks


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SuSE 7.0 + GeForce2 GTS?
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:51:01 GMT

Has anyone successfully installed SuSE 7.0 with a GeForceGTS card?
The problem is: when Yast2 is finished copying the packages, it
restarts. As soon as Yast2 comes up again, the video gets corrupt
(strange colors) and the whole computer hangs (die terminal switching,
no CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, no reaction).

Last week, I bought a new motherboard + cpu + ram. Installing SuSE 7.0
didn't make any difference ... :-(


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From: Hanno =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6ttcher?= 
Subject: Re: Partition Problems
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 07:52:04 +0100

Hi

The swap partition I forgot to list. Of course I make one.

1. Problem: I don't know where to install Lilo exactly...
If I install it in hda3, I need to have another boot manager in foreground
serving at the mbr, or? Because the order at boot is: First MBR which hands
over the control to another boot record in a partition (for example hda3).

2. Another problem is, that I don't know which linux partitions have to be
primary, /boot, /, SWAP....????

Thanx for help,

Hanno




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Jaskierny)
Subject: lilo-ide drives and win/linux
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 06:28:09 GMT

hey.  i just got an extra ide hard drive.  i've had linux running fine on the
primary drive for some time.  so i decided to install windows98 to my new 
drive.  here's my lilo.conf..
=============================
boot=/dev/hda
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
prompt
default=linux

image=/vmlinuz
        label=linux
        root=/dev/hda7
        read-only

other=/dev/hdb1
        label=win
        table=/dev/hda
===========================
i took out my linux hard drive and installed on my new hard drive as the'
primary drive.  then i made it the slave and installed the linux drive again.
i made the necessary adjustments to my lilo.conf.  i re-ran lilo.  however,
when i reboot and enter "win" to boot, i get an "L?" and my computer freezes.
can anybody point out something i may have done wrong?  i've done it this way
before, but i can't seem to get it to work again.  thanks.  jerry

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Module Problems
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:44:31 -0500

I'm new to the linux environment.  I'm running Red Hat 6.0 and I'm trying to
get it to recognize my network card.  I found the module for my card and
used the command 'insmod /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/net/3c509.o'.  I set up all
of my network settings and everything works fine.  When I restart the
computer, I have to type the insmod command again to get it back going.
Once that command is issued, shouldn't it stay in the kernel even after I
reboot?  I basically want to set up my system so that I don't have to add
the module every time.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  Any help is
greatly appreciated!

Thanks
-Obanion




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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition Problems
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:48:24 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hanno B�ttcher wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> The swap partition I forgot to list. Of course I make one.
> 
> 1. Problem: I don't know where to install Lilo exactly...
> If I install it in hda3, I need to have another boot manager in foreground
> serving at the mbr, or? Because the order at boot is: First MBR which hands
> over the control to another boot record in a partition (for example hda3).

Indeed, if one of the other os's place their bootloader in the MBR (NT
eg.) then that bootloader will be executed. But the win98 MBR just
redirects to the (only!) active partition. (I don't know about win2000,
but that uses an MBR bootloader too IIRC) Make sure to read the howto on
booting NT and linux, so you won't end up with an unbootable win2000.
If you let win98 overwrite the MBR, you can have lilo in /dev/hda3 (make
it active), without any other bootmanager in the MBR, BUT I don't know
about win2000!

> 2. Another problem is, that I don't know which linux partitions have to be
> primary, /boot, /, SWAP....????

This really doesn't matter all that much, If you can make them all
primary, then do so, else you don't (And you cannot, so make them
logical) Just make sure that /boot resides below cyl. 1024, or else
you're into a lot of extra trouble. I'd stick with the partitioning I
mentioned before

Eric

> Thanx for help,
> 
> Hanno

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From: KeithM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition Problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:55:49 +1000

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 07:52:04 +0100, Hanno B�ttcher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi
>
>The swap partition I forgot to list. Of course I make one.
>
>1. Problem: I don't know where to install Lilo exactly...
>If I install it in hda3, I need to have another boot manager in foreground
>serving at the mbr, or? Because the order at boot is: First MBR which hands
>over the control to another boot record in a partition (for example hda3).
>
You could install it in the mbr and just have it select which
partition to boot, thats easy and should work but you'll have to
reinstall lilo on every windows reinstall.

Or you could make that /boot partition and install lilo there.
The order will be : if there is no bootmanager in the mbr it will go
to the partition which is active (I think you can specify this in
fdsik) and will load whatever's there. Lilo will be there and will
choose which OS to load.

either of these options should be ok
but hey experiment, see what works.


>2. Another problem is, that I don't know which linux partitions have to be
>primary, /boot, /, SWAP....????
>
Don't quote me on this but I don't think it matters.
I don't think there is any practical difference between extended and
primary partitions BUT I could be wrong.
I've installed full systems though on extended partitions.
Oh I just thought of something, maybe you can only make primary
partitions "active".

>Thanx for help,
>
>Hanno
>
>


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From: "����" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: hk.comp.os.linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: Changing from RedHat to Mandrake.
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:17:50 +0800

Hi,

What kind of data you concerned ?  Just the documents stored on
/home/{username} folder or/and the settings information for your system ?
For the first case, I suggest you make another partition (I assume you have
unpartition space or another harddisk on your computer); then, mount this
partition on a directory (for example, you 'mkdir /backup' on your root).
Then, copy all of data on /home to /backup (just example name, you can
change it).  Reboot the system and just install the new Linux (of course,
don't touch the partition/harddisk you stored the data) but don't create any
new user (root is nevermind because root's home is at /root instead of
/home).  If you are able to use the partition (you stored the old data at
here) as the /home, just tell the installation program to mount this
partition as /home; otherwise, no need to take care about this partition at
the installation stage.

After finished the installation, just 'mkdir /backup' and mount the
partition (which stored the data) on /backup and copy them back to /home.
Of course, after copied, unmount the /backup partition and change back the
relative Onwer/Group to relative users at /home.

Regards

�L�W�p�l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is there any method to change from RedHat to Mandrake without losing any
> data in the hard drive?
>



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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba setup
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:20:20 -0700

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to set up a small network (two machines) , one with Red Hat
6.0
> the other with Win98.  Currentlky I can see the Linux ,achine in Network
> Neighborhood but when I click on it I get the message  "machine not
> accepting requests" or a similar message.  What am I doing wrong ?

One thing that comes to mind - it's important to enable encrypted passwords
in smb.conf... and use the mksmbpasswd.sh script in the source distribution
to make an encrypted 'smbpasswd' file.

man smb.conf
man smbpasswd
or try www.samba.org FAQ

>
> Thanx
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>



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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet problem
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:21:17 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> hi
> i'm newbie to linux
> i just installed redhat 6.2, the gnome workstation version
> however, i can't telnet to my machine
This says it all....workstation. It dosen't install the telnet or ftp
servers hence the problems you are seeing..

Mount the RH CD and go to the /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS directory

type 

rpm -i telnet-server<TAB> wu-ftpd<TAB>

where <TAB> means press the TAB key to complete the file name.

It will now work although root is not allowed telnet or ftp access by
default - this can be changed if desired.

> i get this error
> Connection closed by foregin host.
> i used rpm to install inetd
> added the line
> telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/telnetd in.telnetd -b/etc/issue
> to inetd.conf
Dosen't help if the daemon is not installed ;-)

> i looked in hosts.deny and there are no entries
> i set hosts.allow to ALL:ALL:ALLOW
I would revert this back to the default of empty....

Regards

Phil Q

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From: "Ian Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Directory Structure [ and other animals ]
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:59:17 +0100

Cheers. I think I'm going to have to buy a printer. At present I only have
access to the internet through work and 98 at home. Looked at
www.xfree86.org. There is a lot of information there.

Have also purchased a new copy of RedHat 6.1. A friend at work sugested I do
this as it would have all the bits I need to get started and would probably
be up to date. He said the one he bought already had xfree86 3.3.5 in it
which would recognise the voodoo 3 for what it is and not require any more
configuration.

He also couldn't supply a reason for the monitor but suggested that the
configuration of the voodoo 3 may be the problem not the monitor.

Many thanks



KeithM wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:08:56 +0100, "Ian Henderson"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>A few problems while setting up Linux Red Hat on 2 machines. Hope someone
>>can help. both pc's were set up in the same way using an identical startup
>>disk and cd with the same choices made.
>>
>>
>>1] On 1 pc the x-windows and xconfigurator are located & run from
>>/usr/X11R6/bin/   and on the other they are located in   /usr/X11/bin/  .
on
>>the latter pc I can run it from ./X11/bin/ and  ./X11R6/bin/ . the
confusing
>>thing is that my book [ Linux for dummies.. say no more ] that I got the
cd
>>with Linux on states that this should be run from  /usr/bin/X11/ . This
>>subdirectory does not appear to exist????? Well all I can say is that this
>>has completely fox'd me. Any advice out there?
>
>X11 is usually a sym link to X11R6. Symbolic links should be covered
>somewhere in your book.
>
>>
>>2] I read somewhere [ naturally I cannot find the page on the internet now
>>and like a fool I didn't bookmark it ] that my Voodoo 3 3dfx would be
>>recognised by xfree86. It gave instructions on doing everything necessary
to
>>get this working. I think I have done it correctly but can anyone point me
>>in the correct direction for the page again?
>>
>
>Try www.xfree86.org This probably isn't the page you went to but you
>should be able to find the info here or maybe a link. Otherwise do a
>search.
>
>>3] [ Oh don't I go on ] i have a Samsung 570B TFT screen and when trying
to
>>launch X-Windows it goes through the motions and gives me a message on the
>>screen that it cannot find a screen. A bit bizaar for a first time Linux
>>user but I guess I didnt program it right. have tried a multitude of
>>different ways but getting nowhere. HELP!!!!
>>
>
>I haven't seen this myself, maybe someone else can answer this one.
>
>>Regards
>>
>>Ian Henderson
>>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SCSI Sloooowdown?
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:43:59 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Overholt 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After many, many days of fighting with a 486, trying to get pppoe and
> ipmasqing working, I finally got an ISA SCSI card and a 1 GB Seagate
> drive so I wouldn't have to worry about 12 hours compiling and then
> running out of disk space (previously ~300 MB ... I was trying to
> upgrade to a 2.2 kernel to use built-in pppoe because rp-pppoe wasn't
> working).
> 
> Buuuuuuuuutttttttttttt, now that I have all of this disk space, speed
> problems are now plaguing my very existence....for example:  yesterday
> (ie. in the pre-SCSI days), installing new packages was tedious but
> today it is unbelievably slow - so slow that I don't even think the
> machine is responding after a while (a few short hdd sounds every minute
> or so).  Is there something about the SCSI drive/bus/adapter that could
> be causing this?  I mean, I like the space but I'll go back to 300MB if
> everything takes this long!  (If it took 12+ hours to compile the kernel
> before, it'll take 12+ days at this rate!)
> 
> Anything anyone can suggest would be great as the people I'm supposed to
> be ipmasqing for are getting mad (and I'm getting very frustrated).

What kinda SCSI board, for starters?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: HP 693 Problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:02:24 GMT

On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 23:16:18 -0500, Timothy J. Miller wrote:
>Wondering if anyone out there has "successfully" configured the HP 693c
>Color InkJet
>printer under Linux.  If so, how.
>I have it working, sporadically.  It will print some pages and then all
>of a sudden just start spitting out
>garabage.  Any ideas?
>
>I am running Redhat 6.2 and have it setup under printtool as an HP
>Deskjet 550C (UP) on /dev/lp0
>
>- Thanks
>- Tim
>
These are the links I have on HP Printers.  I don't see Inkjet listed there,
but there are a couple of links on the site for asking questions.  Maybe you
can get some help there if you don't here.

http://hp-linux.cern.ch/support/devprint.php3

Office Jet
http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/

Anita


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: External Modem Woes
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 06:02:11 GMT

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than 4 years ago!]

Seth Jeacopello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>The only thing I can suggest with this problem is to stay away from any
>modem with the rockwell chipset.

At least for external Rockwell-based modems, this statement
is rubbish. They sometimes need to be switched off and on again,
but then, the same applies to USR and Zyxel modems as well.

[...]

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]

>> I also notice that unless it is turned on, it is not seen by Win2000.
>> I get a "not connected" when I pull up modem properties in Control
>> Panel.

Well, how shoul it be seen without being turned on?

>>
>> The Zoltrix uses a Rockwell ACF56K chipset.
>>
>> I have it connected to stty01 aka COM2.

[...]

What kind of system are you running? On a PC, this should be
/dev/ttyS1 instead.

If the modem basically works (and it does, since it dials), then
the problem is either with the various S* registers, or with your
PPP setup. Most probably, all you need is the correct init string.

Michael
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning)
From: Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:17:29 GMT

>>>>> "whoever" == whoever  <moonie> writes:

> On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Stuart Levy wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> moonie;)  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hate to burst your bubble but its not the drivers themselves, I have VIA
>>> chipset with K6-III/450 running ATA/66 with DMA and all the optimizations
>>> running with XFree86 4.0, Nvidia .94's on a TNT2U.  Same with my friends C300
>>> with TNT.  My sons system doesn't like (locks up on boot up) the optimizations
>>> (pcchips mobo, going to replace it soon with the 503a like mine) with or
>>> without XFree86 4.0/.94 nvidia.
>>> --
>>> moonie ;)
>> 
>> It's hard to see how you can claim that there must be no problem with the
>> drivers themselves, just because they work for you!
>> 
>> Of course I wouldn't want to be in NVidia's position trying to support
>> all combinations of motherboard and NVidia-based cards.
>> 
>> I was interested to see, in a tomshardware.com review of 3D cards
>> with NV Linux drivers, that he encountered one of the same symptoms I had:
>> a scrolling text window could freeze, apparently in mid-bitblt
>> (or perhaps after one of several bitblt's needed for scrolling?),
>> only to resume when he touched the mouse!  This often happened to me,
>> and when lockups occurred it was usually the immediate precedent.
>> 
>> Stuart Levy, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> What can I say, I had no trouble from 3 different chipset mobo's (Intel LX, VIA
> MVP3, TXPro), 3 different manufacurers of processors (Intel C300, AMD
> K6-III/450, Cyrix PR233), 3 different chipset cards (TNT, TNT2U, TNT2 M64),
> and 2 different kernels (2.2.14, 2.4.0-test5).  Now I understand that this
> isn't a comprehensive list of all combinations available, but I do believe it
> is a pretty good cross section of them.

Add to that list that AMD Athlon 500 with AMD chipset and TNT2 does
not work. I have personally installed RedHat 7.0 Beta with nvidia's
driver on a P3-800 system with a VIA chipset based motherboard with
GeForce 2 GTS and it runs very reliable. A few OpenGL problems are
there that will freeze these machines every time, but hey, GeForce 2
GTS is not even supported by these drivers. Unreal Tournament works
just great, though. The AMD system does not work. Period. Tried 2
network interfaces both at 100mbps and a new motherboard (in case it
was defective in some way) but it didn't help. Running the network at
10mbps however resolved the random lockups. Guess a chipset/driver
problem with busmaster units is causing the trouble. Network and tnt2
does not share interrupts.

regards,

Bernhard Ege


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From: "rene wesselink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Soundblaster 64V PCI Snd card
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:35:51 +0200

did you try :

insmod sound

*insmod soundcore                *= or modprobe es1371
*insmod es1371

and see: cat /dev/sndstat

play sound: cat file.wav > /dev/dsp

Ren�

>kurtis wrote:
>>
>>
>> I bought a new Dell Dimension 4100.  It shipped with a Soundblaster
>> PCIcard.  Listed as "64V PCI".  I do not believe this card to be a
>> PnPcard.  lspci lists it as an Ensoniq 1371 chipset.  I have compiled
>> support for this card into the kernel, but when I do a
>>
>> "cat /dev/sndstat"
>>
>> I still get "sndstat: No such device."   This tells me that kernel
>> support is NOT enabled.  If I try to cat a file to /dev/dsp, or
>> reference /dev/dsp in any way, I get "dsp: File not found."  Anyone know
>> what I am doing wrong?  Please help, need my mp3s!




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