Linux-Setup Digest #695, Volume #19              Mon, 25 Sep 00 14:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Implications ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Implications ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Implications (Kaz Kylheku)
  [OT] Re: Implications (Andreas K�h�ri)
  How do I get X going as well as xvidtune (Michael Iwaki)
  Re: Lilo ("Bernd W")
  Peer is not authorised to use remote address 165.21.207.5 ("Roger")
  Re: Installing Win98, Win2000 and Linux on one PC?! ("Scott Simpson")
  Re: Implications (Richard Caley)
  will my new Athlon build work with linux ok? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linksys ethernet card ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  printtool fails (Joseph Price)
  Re: IP Masq ("Scott Simpson")
  Re: Setserial/IRQ/Linux/Modem Hell. (Melanie)
  ISP connection broke itself (Ken Harrington)
  Re: inetd[642]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in use (Villy Kruse)
  Help a newbie!  Suse 7 & Geforce 2 GTS ("Sean McGrath")
  Re: Implications ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Firewall Testing -- HELP!! (Frank Johnson)
  Re: which is best? (Toby Haynes)
  XWindows ("Walter Dorninger")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:58:40 GMT

In article <8qioop$rqk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> :>Here is the equation:
> :>
> :>       X --> P --> E
>
> It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.

Equality is only one of a infinite number of concepts that can be
expressed using equations.

>
> :     1. comp.os.linux.advocacy
> :     2. comp.os.linux.misc
> :     3. comp.os.linux.setup
> :     4. comp.software.config-mgmt
>
> : I'm seeing it through 4 where it is slightly topical, but
uninteresting.  The
> : presence of 1 removes any doubt that you are a troll. The contents
remove any
> : doubt that you are a boring kook with uninteresting, unoriginal
ideas who is in
> : need of professional help.
>
> Amen. I couldn't follow the stream of thought, and if I couldn't, few
> people can. I think he is trying to say something connected with the
> old idea of maintaining a programs history

Configuration history, not program's history.  Missing that would
indeed make it difficult to follow the stream of thought.

>along with its code. In, say,
> a functional programming environment (like unix!), this happens
naturally
> at the level of files when you rewrite code, so long as you are
careful
> to copy and modify the code, and not to modify it in situ, because
then
> the old inode is preserved. So long as it is referenced, it can be
> recovered! People have sometimes suggested or even tried turning "rm"
> into an operation like "mv foo hiddendir/foo.verN". He may even
> be suggesting the idea of doing this at the object level, whatever
> the object level is in the system in question(in unix, this IS the
file
> level). That could be lines of code, or even bytes.
>
> Hey! I understood that!
>
> Peter


X isn't P, and P isn't X.

I don't think you understand that X (the set of "install sources"
[install CDs, disks, tapes, procedures, documentation, etc.] required
to configure a given computer system) exists, or that it is interesting
to manage and understand this set, or that this set should be included
within a software architecture.

This is a bit theoretical.  Theory may not interest you.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:21:31 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >Here is the equation:
> >
> >       X --> P --> E
>
> [ snip ]
>
> >What part of this do you disagree with?  It is this observation, and
the
>
> I disagree with the implicit claim that it's topical in any of these
fscking
> newsgroups:
>
>     1. comp.os.linux.advocacy
>     2. comp.os.linux.misc
>     3. comp.os.linux.setup
>     4. comp.software.config-mgmt
>
> I'm seeing it through 4 where it is slightly topical, but
uninteresting.  The
> presence of 1 removes any doubt that you are a troll. The contents
remove any
> doubt that you are a boring kook with uninteresting, unoriginal ideas
who is in
> need of professional help.

The posts are clearly about configuration management. That covers 3 and
4.  The topic is clearly a bit theoretical in nature, that covers 2.
The observation has direct implications for understanding Open Source
development of new features, and understanding the nature of how these
features are be defined, selected, deployed, and managed over time.
That covers 1.

Other operating systems are building their own stories about their
systems.  Generally, they claim you need one platform, supported by one
company, and that they know the best way to give you the functionality
you need for your applications.

On the other hand, with open source, it is possible to build an OS that
provides features that can be target dependent.  That the best features
for a computer system can be selected from those available, without the
bloat of a system that must support all possible computer systems.
With open source, the important aspect of a given feature is what it
delivers.  It is a merit system.

This isn't about how to build software. This is about understanding
what Linux is doing already.  The power is in allowing people to pick
and choose the features (that genetic component my posts discuss) that
are the best for them, independent of who built those features, and get
a deployment that will work.

The posts are theoretical in nature.  They do assume that Linux is
perhaps the best place to look for people that can consider and develop
new concepts.  And perhaps on occasion deploy new ideas, if they hold
water.  But nobody ever claimed (and I haven't) that every new idea or
concept should be considered by everybody.

Paul Snow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:33:47 GMT

On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:58:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <8qioop$rqk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> :>Here is the equation:
>> :>
>> :>       X --> P --> E
>>
>> It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.
>
>Equality is only one of a infinite number of concepts that can be
>expressed using equations.

No, troll.  An equation is the proposition that two expressions are equal.
It's something that equates; the etymology is perfectly transparent to any
arrangements of two or more English speaking brain cells joined by a few
working synapses.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: [OT] Re: Implications
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Sep 2000 18:39:57 +0100

In article <8qnsn2$op8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8qioop$rqk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> :>Here is the equation:
>> :>
>> :>       X --> P --> E
>>
>> It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.
>
>Equality is only one of a infinite number of concepts that can be
>expressed using equations.


I thought I killfiled you... Oh, you have a Deja account too.


>
>>
>> :     1. comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> :     2. comp.os.linux.misc
>> :     3. comp.os.linux.setup
>> :     4. comp.software.config-mgmt
>>
>> : I'm seeing it through 4 where it is slightly topical, but
>uninteresting.  The
>> : presence of 1 removes any doubt that you are a troll. The contents
>remove any
>> : doubt that you are a boring kook with uninteresting, unoriginal
>ideas who is in
>> : need of professional help.
>>
>> Amen. I couldn't follow the stream of thought, and if I couldn't, few
>> people can. I think he is trying to say something connected with the
>> old idea of maintaining a programs history
>
>Configuration history, not program's history.  Missing that would
>indeed make it difficult to follow the stream of thought.


Use CVS for both documentation and code.


>
>>along with its code. In, say,
>> a functional programming environment (like unix!), this happens
>naturally
>> at the level of files when you rewrite code, so long as you are
>careful
>> to copy and modify the code, and not to modify it in situ, because
>then
>> the old inode is preserved. So long as it is referenced, it can be
>> recovered! People have sometimes suggested or even tried turning "rm"
>> into an operation like "mv foo hiddendir/foo.verN". He may even
>> be suggesting the idea of doing this at the object level, whatever
>> the object level is in the system in question(in unix, this IS the
>file
>> level). That could be lines of code, or even bytes.
>>
>> Hey! I understood that!
>>
>> Peter
>
>
>X isn't P, and P isn't X.
>
>I don't think you understand that X (the set of "install sources"
>[install CDs, disks, tapes, procedures, documentation, etc.] required
>to configure a given computer system) exists, or that it is interesting
>to manage and understand this set, or that this set should be included
>within a software architecture.


Ah, so X is the GNU/Linux distribution... P is what you installed from
it on your computer and E is segmentation fault that Netscape
generates (or in other words, the working environment).


>
>This is a bit theoretical.  Theory may not interest you.


It's not theoretical, it's proto-theoretical. 
Eh, whatsitcalled... philosophical.


/A

-- 
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========================================================================
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From: Michael Iwaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install
Subject: How do I get X going as well as xvidtune
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:19:41 GMT

I want to adjust my kde display; it's off center.   Someone suggested
using xvidtune and they say that it runs under x.  So that I have to run
X to get xvidtune to run.  I tried running X by typing X and hitting
enter from the shell prompt (and also root prompt) and from the
directory where X resides.  When I try running X that way, I get a
gray-white display with an 'X' in the center and it stays that way...
there is no keyboard interaction but the mouse moves the 'x'.  The only
way to get out of this is by hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.   This can't be
all there is to X.  How do I run X so I can run xvidtune and adjust my
display?

Michael Iwaki


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From: "Bernd W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.help,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Lilo
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:50:51 +0200

Hi Ian,

you can setup lilo through yast.
Its under system administration -> kernel and boot configuration - config
lilo

Maybe it is called slightly different.

cu,

Bernd

"Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have finally managed to get Linux Suse 5.2 on to an old 486 I have.
>
> Problem is I messed up lilo setup and can only now boot from floppy.
>
> I have the relevant files on the harddrive, I am having trouble setting
> it up though.
>
> When I type lilo I get an error can't find /etc/lilo.conf I presume this
> file has not yet been created.
>
> Anyone help me so i can boot from harddrive.
>
> Thankyou
>
> Ian.



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From: "Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Peer is not authorised to use remote address 165.21.207.5
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 01:35:58 +0800
Reply-To: "Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi. When I try to use Kppp to log on to the internet, I got the above
complain.
However, I am able to log on to he internet using netcfig > interface >
activate.
Is there something needs to be done?Please advise.
Thanks.
Roger



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From: "Scott Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,alt.os.linux,microsoft.public.win2000.applications
Subject: Re: Installing Win98, Win2000 and Linux on one PC?!
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:12:27 GMT

See http://home.earthlink.net/~simpson3



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From: Richard Caley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: 25 Sep 2000 18:14:27 +0100

In article <8qnsn2$op8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, paulsnx2  (p) writes:

>> It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.

p> Equality is only one of a infinite number of concepts that can be
p> expressed using equations.

Er, that has to be the most bizzare statment I've read today, and it
has some serious competition.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: will my new Athlon build work with linux ok?
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:13:17 GMT

Hi people, I am thinking about building a new machine this winter. I am
still using intel 233mmx so am tempted by the new AMD Athlon proccy's.
:) Is there any problems I am likely to get using an Athlon with Linux?
My system will be a duel boot win98/suse linux system.

I am fairly famililar with setting up suse after doing it several times
but am just concerned about compatability between the new processors
and linux.

regards,
joe
www.strudwick.net



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linksys ethernet card
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:13:41 GMT

I had the Linksys LNE100 with dual boot OS's . The problem APPEARS to
be a very outdated tulip driver on the install. In either case I gave up
(though there was a VERY good link that I can't find in which someone
steps thru the tulip driver upgrade).

In any case, I installed a 3COM 3cb509 EISA card and basically had no
problems for both OS's. When i reinstalled Linux (mandrake) I had to go
thru linuxconf and force the driver "3cb509" or something like that. It
was originally overwritten(?) by a USB driver I think .

Good Luck.




In article <FWsz5.12$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "yaolong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a dual OS machine (win 98 and Linux) - I installed a Linksys
10/100
> TX card
> Linux recognized the additional hardware - I added in the ip addresses
> The card allows me to ping the localhost ip addresses(eg. if
localhost is
> 62.x.x.x - it pings this successfully)
> but is not able to ping any other addresses
>
> can anyone please provide help on this
>
>


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From: Joseph Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: printtool fails
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:04:28 -0500

On an RH62,   printtool sets up the printer (a HPLJ4) EXCEPT for the
device
/dev/lp1/dev/lp0   it needs.

Is spooling fine.

Whats the problem and fix??

Thanks.

-JP






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From: "Scott Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: IP Masq
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:26:32 GMT

Try http://home.earthlink.net/~simpson3



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From: Melanie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setserial/IRQ/Linux/Modem Hell.
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:30:05 -0000

John Todd wrote:

> Please pardon me if I'm starting too far back, but you are clear,
> aren't you, that setserial does not SET the modem, but INFORMS Linux of
>the
> setting? Three possible ways to SET a modem:
> * hardware jumpers
> * DOS utility (!)
> * isapnp   (man isapnp)

Unfortunately, yes, I'm aware. I know that the modem's on IRQ 3, and the
ethernet card was set using a DOS utility to use IRQ 7. Unless I boot into
single user mode with 'linux S', setserial returns 'Device or resource
busy' when I try to see the settings/inform the system of the modem's IRQ.
I guess I just need to diff the dmesg and /var/log/messages to see how the
boots differ and work it out from there..
Thanks anyway. :o)

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From: Ken Harrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ISP connection broke itself
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:30:15 GMT

I had been using my modem just fine with various versions of Redhat and
Mandrake Linux.  I currently have Mandrake 7.1.

One evening, I was using the modem just fine to connect to my ISP, and
the next morning when I tried it, I couldn't connect.  It has been this
way for about 5 days now.  I'm hoping someone can suggest something to
try.

When I try to connect (with gnome or kde dialer, or with a script), the
modems connect, I can see in the /var/log/messages file where the login
and password were sent to the ISP.  Then the transmit and receive lights
on the modem blink for a while, looking like there is some kind of
communication goin on.  Then pppd stops, with the brief message "modem
hangup".

I looked at the before and after picture, and the ppp and slhc modules
get loaded when I try the connection, so I think things are set up on my
system.

I called the support line for my ISP, and was told that they had been
getting calls from Linux people about connection problems, but they had
no idea what was causing it.

Next, I tried using the kernel that came with the Mandrake distribution,
which had no effect.

Then I ran the pppd command manually, and used "strace".  I couldn't see
anything obvious, and it looks like a read call to the port returned 0
bytes (possibly due to a signal), shortly after which the modem hangup
message is printed.

I also tried dialing with minicom, and the text login works.  The ppp
login appeared to work, at least to the point where the ISP started
sending some type of non-text information.

I can connect fine under Windows 98, so I'm sure the modem is working.

So, I'm out of ideas to try here.  I'm pretty sure it is either a
problem or a change in configuration at the ISP, but since they don't
seem interested in helping, I was hoping someone could suggest a way for
me to find out more information about what is going wrong, so I can
report it back, and hopefully get my connection going again.

Thanks for sticking with this long post.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: inetd[642]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in use
Date: 25 Sep 2000 17:47:39 GMT

On 25 Sep 2000 10:43:38 GMT, Jan Bredereke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>Hi Vinson,
>
>On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:25:35 GMT, Vinson Armstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have been noticing a large number of the below message in my log files. I
>> am not sure but it seem that my system thinks there is another system on the
>> network with same IP address it has?!?!?!?!?
>> 
>> "inetd[642]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in use"
>
>No. This message of the "bind" system call means that another
>process on the *same* machine has already grabbed the port in order
>to listen to incoming requests. The TCP port appears to be auth,
>i.e., 113 (see /etc/services). So the inetd process cannot bind to
>it. Look for another process providing auth services. (Maybe it is
>spawned by the inet daemon, too?)
>



Common problem when upgrading to RH6.1 or RH6.2.  The identd is not
started from /etc/rc.d, and if it is also enabled in /etc/inetd.conf
you get the bind conflict.  Disable it one of the places, probaly
by commenting out identd in /etc/inetd.conf.




Villy

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From: "Sean McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help a newbie!  Suse 7 & Geforce 2 GTS
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:47:45 -0400

I have a Dell Precision 420, duel P3 933, 512 megs PC800 RDRAM, Hercules
Prophet II 64 meg GTS card.

Installed Suse 7.0 and the latest nvidia drivers from the Suse ftp site, but
still can't get X to run on my video card.

Does anyone have this card and can send me their configuration files, maybe
I can figure out how you did it and get mine working?

To be honest, part of the problem is that I am new to Linux and really don't
know what the heck I am doing.

Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks for any help...



[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:39:06 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:58:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <paulsnx2@my-
deja.com>
> wrote:
> >In article <8qioop$rqk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >  "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> In comp.os.linux.misc Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> : On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >> :>Here is the equation:
> >> :>
> >> :>       X --> P --> E
> >>
> >> It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.
> >
> >Equality is only one of a infinite number of concepts that can be
> >expressed using equations.
>
> No, troll.  An equation is the proposition that two expressions are
equal.
> It's something that equates; the etymology is perfectly transparent
to any
> arrangements of two or more English speaking brain cells joined by a
few
> working synapses.

That's fine, and I stand corrected, at the etymology level. Still,
notation is flexible, allowing equations of the sort:

      H(2) + O(2) --> H(2)O
         Ref: http://library.thinkquest.org/3659/chmreact/equation.html

Perhaps you are bringing up a more relevant point, that in a chemical
formula, both sides express the totality of the reactants involved.
And when one goes to configure a computer system, one can not write:

          X --> P

because there is no way to define the distribution of the various
software components in a set X.  Such an X would (as implied by calling
this an equation, the term you object to) require that X account
completely for the construction of P.

Is that your point? Or are you just arguing?

Paul Snow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Frank Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Firewall Testing -- HELP!!
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:57:26 +0100

David K. Means wrote:
> I'm not sure that a script would be up to that level of checking.  You don't
> say
> if you are using ipfwadm or ipchains, but in either case, you might look at
>     http://www.digitalelephant.org/computing/fire/fire.html
> for an explanation of the one good way to set up a masquerading firewall.
> 
> "Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I wrote my first (and second, when the first didn't work) firewall,
> > but things don't seem to work.  I even tried the firewall creation
> > script on Robert Ziegler's website.  I get some traffic, but get
> > plenty of messages about host "" not valid or it refuses to let DNS
> > traffic thru (mildly inconvenient).  Is there a utility out there that
> > will look through your firewall script and kick out obvious errors in
> > syntax?  I know it won't know if I put the wrong IP in there, but
> > after looking at it for a while, everything just runs together.
> >
> > Any ideas??
> >
> > Dodd
> 
There is a working ipchains script at www.noether.fresserve.co.uk.  You
will need to add a couple of lines to get icq and irc to work which I can
let you have if you want them.

HTH

-- 
-o>   Frank Johnson
 /\   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_\_v  icq: 52932620
It is better to have loved and lost than just to have lost.

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From: Toby Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: which is best?
Date: 25 Sep 2000 14:03:40 -0400

!! "Steve" == Steve  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  Steve> I have redhat 6.0, 6.1, 6.2 and mandrake 7.1. I want to install it
  Steve> with win98 on an athlon 600 system. I have in the system an ATI rage
  Steve> video card, SBLive value sound card, CD-RW, and 2 network cards. I
  Steve> also use this machine to share the internet with 2 others. Any
  Steve> suggestions on the best version and hints on the sharing thing are
  Steve> greatly appreciated.  Stay simple on the explanations as I am still
  Steve> new to Linux.

Okay, if you are new to Linux, you should probably go with Mandrake 7.1 as it
is extremely easy to get going. Going through your hardware, it looks pretty
likely that most or all should work fine, although you don't specify the make
and interface of your CD-RW or your network cards. The network cards are likely
to be supported, the CD-RW is probably supported. Try the install and go from
there. 

Your internet sharing shouldn't be too tricky to set up. If you have an ADSL
link running PPPoE I recommend downloading the rp-pppoe client from
www.RoaringPenguin.com which is easy to install and get running. This should
also help set up your internet pass-thru. This has to be done after you do your
Linux install, so I recommend putting the rp-pppoe RPM onto a floppy disk and
installing it from there as the first thing you do after the install. Cable
setup I'm less familiar with, although if it uses DHCP you may be able to
complete the setup of that during the install procedure.

A good place to go to see whether a particular piece of hardware is supported
is

www.linhardware.com

where other users put in information on working hardware. If there is no entry
for your hardware, it doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't work, merely that
nobody has reported it. It can be useful though if you have devices not working
after the initial install stage.

Cheers,
Toby Haynes

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Toby Haynes
The views and opinions expressed in this message are my own, and do
not necessarily reflect those of IBM Canada.

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From: "Walter Dorninger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XWindows
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:12:55 +0200

Hi,

I have a problem with XWindows on RH 6.1 and on Suse 7.0. Whenever I try to
connect to my Linuxbox with a XDMCP Broadcast the connection times out. When
I try to connect first with a XTERM Session and the e.g. start "startkde" I
get the kde desktop. Can anyone tell me why the XDMCP Broadcast does not
work ?

Thanks
Walter



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