Linux-Setup Digest #796, Volume #19 Mon, 9 Oct 00 20:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Newbie: How do you setup 2 PC's using Rhat Linux 6.2?
Re: Boot Partition too Big!!! ?! (Paul Lew)
Re: /usr/bin/X11/startx: bash:: unknown command (Tommy)
My .forward causes "Service unavailable" (* Tong *)
Re: Kppp modem commands (John Todd)
Problems with dbman and Mandrake Linux ("Shaun McCann")
Linux Lost.... (S��ner95)
Re: xntpd errors and "RSN" (Colin Watson)
Re: GNome windows not fitting screen size ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
squid and firewal cooperation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Monitor Settings (Andrew Renalds)
ssh2 hangs after authentication (James Knowles)
Re: RedHat 7.0 installing probs!!! (Mark Mellin)
Command to format a partition? (Mike Oliver)
Re: X question (gnome) (Hagbard)
Re: A new directory hierarchy standard - need opinions (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: X question (gnome) (Ed Hurst)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Newbie: How do you setup 2 PC's using Rhat Linux 6.2?
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 22:16:53 -0000
On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:49:00 GMT, The Ghost In The Machine
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
>on Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:56:11 GMT
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>RTFunnyM or the How-To's.
>>
>>There are thousands of them so you should be busy for a while.
>
>I would have expected something from you more along the lines of:
>
>[1] Buy two copies of Win2k.
>[2] Use the RH6.2 as a coaster for a coffee mug, as you wait
> for the install, which should take 5 minutes at most anyway.
>[3] Install the two copies of Win2k.
>[4] Reboot.
>
>:-)
>
>(Disclaimer: I happen to like RH 6.0 and 6.2, so don't take
>this too seriously. But I'm surprised you didn't take this
>opportunity to push what you obviously think is a
>far better operating system. [*] :-) )
>
>(Disclaimer #2: There are a number of HOWTOs, but he'd not have
>to read all of them; the ones that appear relevant are the
>Networking howto, the DNS howto, the Printing howto,
>the Apache installation instructions, and possibly the howto
>on how to rebuild the kernel whose name I forget offhand, since
>he's going to have to add the 'ne.o' module for the NIC; he
>won't get far otherwise. :-) )
He's certainly better of recompiling in this instance.
The ne2000 module is one of those odd ones that only
does autodetection when it's not a module.
Although, you really don't need a howto for the kernel.
Just read the README carefully. Infact, if he installs
everything in Redhat, he should just be able to use the
gui configurator (cd /usr/linux/src;make xconfig), set
the ne2000 checkbox to Y/es (rather than M/odule) and
rcompile.
[deletia]
Except for the problem of skanky network hardware, the rest
should actually be relatively simple. There are shiny happy
gui tools for every bit except dealing with the NE2000's.
The tricky bit for him will be getting up to speed on IP
networking concepts (the ethernet howto is good for this).
--
Big M, Little M, many mumbling mice
Are making midnight music in the moonlight,
Mighty nice!
Fain would I climb, yet fear I to fall.
-- Sir Walter Raleigh
FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #4
A: Go west, young man, go west!
Q: What do wabbits do when they get tiwed of wunning awound?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Boot Partition too Big!!! ?!
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 22:37:56 GMT
On 9 Oct 2000 17:52:11 GMT, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>]Gary Leung wrote:
>]>
>]> I got 10G HD, I made partition 8G and 2G, I have my Windows 98 on 8G (c:)
>]> then I boot up with the RedHat6.1 CD, and try to install (on my 2G drive),
>]> when I go up to the partition, I can't set up the "Linux Native" drive, it
>]> give reason "boot partition too big". Can anyone know why is that, and tell
>]> me how to make it?
>
>]Yes I can, but I won't.
>]Search deja.com. This question has been asked so often, you can very
>]easily find an answer in previous posts/replies.
>
>Helpful bastard aren;t you.
>
>The problem is that the old lilo assumed that your bios could not boot
>up anything beyond 8GB so the partition containing /boot had to lie
>entirely below that line on the disk. This was a good assumption until
>about 2 years ago. Then computer bios's gained an extention which
>allowed them to boot from beyond the 1024 cyl limit.
>So if you have a new computer, you can either get the new lilo (probably
>best to use a new distro for that) or make sure that the partition
>containing /boot lies below the 1024 cyl limit. Eg, put a 4MB partiton
>at the bottom of the disk containing just /boot.
>
Very good answer.... that idiot doesn't know that one can go thru many
msgs that just say "search deja.com" before finding the real answer;
or even read alot of "off topic stuff" to find the "howto".
Searching deja.com should not be used as an "answer" frequently unless
deja.com does not store any "answers" that just say "search deja.com"
or even "if you find out let me know" msgs.
Now, is deja.com storing all msgs from "day 1" until "forever"? Can they
afford the cost of the storage and let everyone use it "free"? At some
point deja.com would have to delete some msgs as even 50 years of stuff
could be alot, especially for "immediate" retrieval for world-wide
newsgroups; even microsoft is overloading the newsgroup base.
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From: Tommy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /usr/bin/X11/startx: bash:: unknown command
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:37:05 +0200
MT wrote:
>
> When i give the 'startx' command, the shell shows me this errorkmessage (i
> use bash):
> /usr/bin/X11/startx: bash:: unknown command
> what could be da problem? I checked the .profile file, it was okay, and
> the file /usr/bin/X11/startx does exist... other command though start OK...
> My os is a Debian 2.2 potato with a 2.2.17 kernel and the Xfree86 3.3.6...
>
> tammx
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try with startX instead of startx
Regard http://coolscreen.dk
-a cool place for penguins-
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From: * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc
Subject: My .forward causes "Service unavailable"
Date: 09 Oct 2000 19:53:53 -0300
Hi,
My .forward & .procmailrc work on Solaris. When I tried the same
file on my linux (RH 6.2), The mail was always bounced with "Service
unavailable" error.
Here is the debug output of sendmail:
$ echo `date` | sendmail -v $LOGNAME
/home/tong/.forward: line 1: forwarding to "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f
$p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"
"|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"... Connecting
to prog...
"|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"... Service
unavailable
/home/tong/.forward: line 1: forwarding to "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f
$p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"
/home/tong/dead.letter... Saved message in /home/tong/dead.letter
The corresponding entry in /var/log/maillog file:
Oct 9 18:23:10 myhost sendmail[5882]: SAA05882: to="|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmai
l&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std", ctladdr=tong (9999/1001), delay=00:00:
00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, stat=Service unavailable
Seems to me that my linux's mail delivering programs thinks that the
mailer is "prog" instead of "procmail", is it so? What should I
do/test to straight it out? Thanks!
PS, here is some info FYI:
$ cat ~/.forward
"|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"
$ dir /usr/bin/procmail
-rwsr-sr-x 1 root mail 69140 Jan 1 2000 /usr/bin/procmail*
# procmail works fine:
$ procmail DEFAULT=/dev/null VERBOSE=yes /dev/null </dev/null
procmail: [5970] Mon Oct 9 19:43:24 2000
procmail: Rcfile: "/dev/null"
procmail: Assigning "MAILDIR=/home/tong"
procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=/dev/null"
procmail: Opening "/dev/null"
Folder: /dev/null 0
Besides, it delivers ok if I remove the .forward file. And, the
.procmailrc works fine if I launch a dry run procmail on it.
what should I do next? Thanks!
--
Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
http://members.xoom.com/suntong001/
- All free contribution & collection & music from the heavens
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Todd)
Subject: Re: Kppp modem commands
Date: 9 Oct 2000 21:17:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe the modem initialization string is in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts , in RedHat6, anyway.
On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 18:40:07 -0500, Gene Hopp
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to get the modem commands on Kppp to slow the
>dialing speed. Right it is configured at 70 ms according to
>the query of the modem. I would like to slow it down to 150 ms
>but everyplace that I try to insert the ATS11=150 doesn't seem
>to work. Does anyone know where is the right place or an
>alternate command to make this work? Thanks for your help.
>
>By the way I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 and Kde.
>
>Gene
>
>
--
_____________________
The lap of Linuxury
|<de in RH6
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From: "Shaun McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with dbman and Mandrake Linux
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 23:52:36 +0100
Hi,
I'm having a bit of a problem setting up my printer on Mandrake Linux and I
think I've narrowed it down to the dbman utility (although I could be
wrong!) that was included as part of the archive that contained the driver
(my printer is a Lexmark z52). The instructions in the archive told me I
needed to open an xTerm window, log on as root and then enter dbman -i to
update printerdb with the Lexmark filter. When I did this, though, all I got
back was "command not found". However, once, when I forgot to log on as root
and I ran dbman, the utility ran but told me it couldn't update printerdb as
permission was denied to update the file. Weird. Does any-one have any ideas
why this would be doing this or what I might be doing wrong?
Cheers,
Shaun.
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From: S��ner95 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Lost....
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:07:55 GMT
Guys, need a bit of help here, I need some links to some good sites on
how to get Linux up. I am running KDE, and that's all up and fine, but
i've been trying for 2 days now to get online, install a netcard and
so....i'm missing something, or just plain aint getting it. Hell i
couldnt even figure out how to install the drivers of the floppy
disk....haha I got the Linux Mandrake 7.0 distro
Oh and another thing i dont get, is running these .EXE files......it
wont...its associated with x-executable but doesnt seem to do
anything. these files have to be copied over to linux first?
converted or something?
S��ner95...........
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: xntpd errors and "RSN"
Date: 9 Oct 2000 23:03:45 GMT
Larry Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In the documentation, there is this lone cryptic comment:
>
>The kernel PLL interface is broken, I know.
>Update RSN.
>
>Before I bother the authors, does anyone know what an "RSN" is (and how
>it can be updated)?
It stands for "Real Soon Now".
HTH,
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"It stands for 'Sales and Marketing', you depraved monkeys."
"A rose by any other name, Stef." - http://www.userfriendly.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GNome windows not fitting screen size
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:12:32 GMT
if you can you need to find the XFree86 file...
to do this you type "locate XFree86" at the command prompt
after you find it you can edit it by using the "vi" command
$ vi /etc/XFree86blahblahblah
You can then edit it by pushing the I button on your keyboard.
you can see where the resolution is. Change it to something that you
have seen in windoze. you can try diffrent things.
That should work. Then when you are done just restart the xwindow and
see what you think. I really recomend you DL the latest ver. of Red
Hat cuz they have a wiz. that does alot of this for you and you can
even test it out when doing it.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
rohit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just set up Redhat 6.2 on my machine - however ,the window size is
> larger than the computer screen size
> Is there a way to adjust the window default size
> Thanks
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: squid and firewal cooperation
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:14:16 GMT
Hi,
we solved a problem we had formerly posted here - check archieve with
some subject - problem was access rules in squid did not work.
Solution - don't know why - we changed the rules from explicit domain
names to 'regexec' clauses, wonder, it works.
Just fyi, Bernhard S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Andrew Renalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Monitor Settings
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 18:18:45 -0500
I have tried and tried but I cannot get X up and running for my Red Hat
6.2 installation. The problem is that I have a Philips 109S monitor.
They have a configuration for the 107S (the 17" monitor) but not the
109S (the 19" counterpart). I have tried to use Xconfigurator choosing
almost every permutation of settings including "Generic Monitor" but I
still get errors when X tries to start. Does anyone have the settings
for this monitor? Please cc responses to my e-mail address. Thanks in
advance.
- Andrew
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From: James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ssh2 hangs after authentication
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:35:27 -0600
I've been playing around with ssh2 between a couple machines on a home network.
I can ssh from machine A to machine B w/o any problem.
I can ssh from machine B to machine B w/o any problem.
When I try going from B to A, or when I try to go from A to A, then ssh2d hangs
and starts burning CPU time as if it were in an infinite loop.
I ran "ssh2d -d 99" from machine A, which says, among other thing, the following
when I ssh to it (user/host information removed):
sshd2[23953]: User <username>'s local password accepted.
sshd2[23953]: Password authentication for user <username> accepted.
sshd2[23953]: User <username>, coming from <hostname>, authenticated.
WARNING: ioctl I_PUSH ptem: Invalid argument
WARNING: ioctl I_PUSH ldterm: Invalid argument
debug: Setting controlling tty using TIOCSCTTY.
At which point sshd2 hangs until the client xterm is killed or I kill sshd2
manually.
Any ideas why machine A's sshd2 is broken?
--
G'Quon wrote, "There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the
darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers
and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of
flesh is the death of
hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender...."
- G'Kar ("Babylon 5")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Mellin)
Subject: Re: RedHat 7.0 installing probs!!!
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:32:55 GMT
Hiya Martin,
FWIW, I'm seeing exactly the same problem here on a
Unisys 7200 Server, Dual Pentium III's @ 600 MHz, 256 ECC,
18.5Gb SCSI-U2W, Root is 17Gb, 512Mb for Swap & for Boot
partitions (each).
RH6.2 SMP installs/runs fine on this config... I'm unable to
affect any other "I"nteractive boot mode as loading INIT is
where/when the crash occurs. Running in either "Linux SMP" or
"Linux UP" modes made no difference (same thing with changing
the runlevels).
After several installs/varations, a poke through bugzilla (which
could learn a lesson or 2 from Deja !!) - IMO I see no other
recourse at this time then to backlevel to RH-6.1 or 6.2 and
wait for Redhat to complete 7.0 and release it as as 7.1
Good luck and let me know if you find a solution.
Mark
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:42:51, "Martin Tegner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have problem getting RedHat 7.0 to boot after a succesfull
> installation(clean inst,) on my HP4150 omnibook. It worked fine with RH6.2,
> but not with 7.0.
> It stops dead just after Enabling Swap Space [OK]
>
> Doesn't respond to any keypresses(not even ctrl-alt delete).!
>
> Any suggestions... before i install 6.2 again?
>
> Regards
>
> Martin
>
>
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From: Mike Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Command to format a partition?
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:38:10 -0700
[RH6.2]
I decided to put a swap partition on the faster of my two
hard drives, and was able to do this with Linux fdisk.
Then I used linuxconf to let Linux know that it should
use the new partition as swap.
But it doesn't show up in the output of the "free"
command, apparently because I never formatted it.
How do I do that? Yes, I know I can do it from
the install disk, but surely there's just a command
I can type.
I've searched docs and man pages and find nothing.
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From: Hagbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X question (gnome)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:50:45 -0400
thanks for the reply.
i'm on the road this week (with just my nt laptop), so i won't be able
to try that out until friday.
after choosing a desktop program, when i exit and then restart will
that desktop program be automatically loaded or would i have to run
switchdesk again? from what i recall when i had linux running for a
bit earlier, it saves each users desktop information as a 'session' or
something like that, so maybe i just answered my own question.
what files does 'startx' look to when deciding what you're running?
i'd like to poke around and see what's what.
sorry if i sound like a complete dumbass, but when it comes to linux i
am :-)
Hagbard
>
>In RedHat 6.1 you can run switchdesk, type:
>
>[bluster@zephyr]$ switchdesk&
>
>into one of the xterm windows to start the desktop switcher program.
>
>Bluster
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A new directory hierarchy standard - need opinions
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:57:03 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.system, jtnews
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Mon, 09 Oct 2000 21:48:49 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Alexander Viro wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >I'd appreciate a lot of input on my proposal.
>>
>> NFS stands for No Filesystem Security. Read on security issues with NFS
>> and if after that you will still think that your proposal makes sense -
>> seek professional help. NFS over untrusted network is a disaster waiting
>> to happen and it's not going to wait long, especially if you use it for
>> executables.
>Can you give a specific example of a security problem using this setup?
>
>Note that it is the client that mounts a read only filesystem from the
>server
>which is presumably on the application service provider's side and is
>secured
>on that end.
1. One can "jam" the filesystem, by injecting packets (NFS works over
UDP) into the network. If one's extremely lucky, one can even
insert nasty viruses this way, although on most NFS installations,
the damage is limited to the user's account unless it gets into
/tmp, where it can wreak havoc to naive programs (think: symbolic
link to fool programs to writing anywhere on the disk; if the program
is SUID, very nasty things can happen). A more likely happening
is that the executable or data becomes corrupted (because part
of the data is cmoing frmo the rogue injector) and nothing works
reliably.
Therefore, putting sensitive data or executables on an NFS server
is not all that good of an idea unless you can guarantee that the
subnetwork access is absolutely secure. Note also that root can't
write to NFS volumes unless no_squash_root is set during mount;
this is a feature! (There's another option which is also set by
default that disables the suid and sgid bits.)
2. NFS is easily sniffable, as it does not have cryptographic capability
as far as I know. This may be addressed sometime in the future,
and there may be good replacements for NFS that do have crypto.
I certainly hope so, but I haven't looked.
3. Locking on NFS is a hit-and-miss proposition. Fortunately, this
doesn't appear to be part of your proposal (which appears to be a
method of centralizing executables for a common architecture -- a
nice idea in theory admittedly, but NFS isn't the way to go).
4. I'm not sure how standard NFS implementations are. I've had problems
when sharing a file from a modern Linux system to an old Amiga,
for example -- although I think that one's a function of buffer size.
But I've heard of some interesting problems when a Linux box is acting
as an NFS file server to other Unix boxes. (It works fine to other
Linux boxes, of course...)
In short: don't do it. Use rdist, rpm, or other such management tools
instead. Disk space is cheap anyway. :-)
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
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From: Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X question (gnome)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 18:50:30 -0500
Hagbard wrote:
> can someone help a newbie?
>
> i finally managed to get x running with my geforce2gts after
> downloading the drivers from nvidia's website.
>
> however, apparently the only thing starting is twm. i know i have
> gnome and kde installed, but i'm not sure how to start them (i'm a
> complete novice at this). like i said, when i type 'startx' the only
> thing i get is a blank background with 3 terminal windows and a clock.
> when i click on the desktop a popup menu says something about twm,
> which is the only reason i know what it is that's running.
>
> i'd like to know what i need to modify to have gnome start up
> automatically when i type 'startx'.
>
> here's my configuration:
>
> pii-400
> 128M
> Creative Annihilator 2 GTS
>
> RedHat 6.1
> kernel 2.2.12
>
> tia,
>
> hagbard
You'll probably need to know all the stuff on this document before you're
through: http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/gotchas/6.1/gotchas-6.1.html
. Patiently read it through and you will learn the answer to your
question and so much more!
Ed
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