Linux-Setup Digest #799, Volume #19 Tue, 10 Oct 00 05:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Cable modem, ethernet, and DHCP ("casa")
Lilo booting problem? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Boot Partition too Big!!! ?! (Eric)
Re: Boot Partition too Big!!! ?! (Eric)
Re: Newbie: How do you setup 2 PC's using Rhat Linux 6.2? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Lotus Notes in VMWare on Linux? ("Tomas")
Newbie: Password forgot (Jerome Meyer)
Re: Redhat 7.0 Kernel won't compile? (Mogens Kjaer)
Re: My .forward causes "Service unavailable" (Rob Ristroph)
Re: I NEED A JOB!! (Batchman)
Re: Newbie: Password forgot (Eric)
Re: Redhat 7.0 Kernel won't compile? (Bernhard Mogens Ege)
Re: No driver for isdn card known ("Jeroen Zwartepoorte")
About user login ("JL")
Re: A new directory hierarchy standard - need opinions (jtnews)
Re: Newbie: How do you setup 2 PC's using Rhat Linux 6.2? (2:1)
Re: Newbie: How do you setup 2 PC's using Rhat Linux 6.2? (2:1)
Re: A new directory hierarchy standard - need opinions (Bernhard Mogens Ege)
Re: I NEED A JOB!! (Colin Watson)
Re: downloading and running programs help (Rob Ristroph)
Re: Disk Formatting & RAWRITE (Villy Kruse)
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From: "casa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Cable modem, ethernet, and DHCP
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:40:56 +0200
do a locate 3c509.o
then insmod (path where 3c509.o is found)/3c509.o
ifup eth0
and it should work
and one thing dont fill in an IP addy when u use DHCP.
the idea of dhcp is getting an ip giving to u by your isp. when u fill this
in
u wont get any lease
James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hey guys, thanks for all the help. But it is STILL not working. Now, I
am
> either a complete idiot or tremendously unlucky. I went into netconf and
> set everything to blank except kernel module and net device.
> kernel module = 3c509
> net device = eth0
> of course
> Then I tried rebooting. During the initialization, I got to "booting up
> eth0" and then it hung for a while. Then I got the error again, unable to
> setup eth0 via dhcpcd..failed. But this time, the PC light on the cable
> modem actually turned on and the data light was blinking.
>
> Then when I was logged in, as root, I typed "pump -i eth0" and then the PC
> light came on again, it hung for a while, then it said "operation failed"
> and the light went off. I even tried typing "dhcpcd -r" and the same
thing
> happened. The light goes on then off. Please don't hate me for bothering
> you guys but I really wish to learn Linux. But I can't when some things
> don't work. BTW, the ethernet isn't the only thing working. But I'm
taking
> it step by step.
>
> thanks again
>
> James wrote:
>
> > Arg, linux newbie here with some problems setting up my cable modem with
> > dhcp. I have Mandrake 7.1. I type in "netconf" which takes me to the
> > network configurator. In "Basic Host Info" there is a "hostname +
> > domain" entry which is set to "localhost.localdomain".
> > Under the "adapter1" tab is the following info:
> > net device: eth0
> > kernel module: 3c509
> > irq: 10
> > ip: my ip
> > the dhcp radio button is selected
> >
> > When I close out of netconf and tell is to activate changes I get an
> > error. Here it is:
> >
> > Executing /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S10network reload:
> > > Bringing up device eth0 Determining IP information for eth0 via
> > dhcp...faile
> > > [FAILED]
> >
> > And that's that. No internet connection. I've already read a couple of
> > how-to's (especially cable modem, dhcp mini-howto, and the ethernet
> > howto) and they didn't help.
> >
> > I have a 3com Etherlink III (3c509B)
> >
> > Any help is appreciated! Getting frustrated and wanting to switch back
> > to Winblowz.
> >
> > James L
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lilo booting problem?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:37:01 GMT
Hi all !
I'm a new bie. I have just installed RedHat 6.2 to my system. My system
run on AMD-K6. I can install RedHat to my system. But when I re-start,
the following error appear:
"LI 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
01 ....."
and it keep scrolling down.
One guy point out that it might be something wrong with my boot
partition and suggest using "Fdisk /MBR" to restore fresh Master Boot
Record then re-install RedHat. I've try it but it still doesn't work at
all.
Could you pls explain this problem in more detail for me ?
Thanks in advance.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot Partition too Big!!! ?!
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:05:05 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ]Gary Leung wrote:
> ]>
> ]> I got 10G HD, I made partition 8G and 2G, I have my Windows 98 on 8G (c:)
> ]> then I boot up with the RedHat6.1 CD, and try to install (on my 2G drive),
> ]> when I go up to the partition, I can't set up the "Linux Native" drive, it
> ]> give reason "boot partition too big". Can anyone know why is that, and tell
> ]> me how to make it?
>
> ]Yes I can, but I won't.
> ]Search deja.com. This question has been asked so often, you can very
> ]easily find an answer in previous posts/replies.
>
> Helpful bastard aren;t you.
I try to be, but if someone is obviously not even taking the trouble to
find an answer for himself, I'm not going to spend my time on it either.
I've answered at least five other messages with this same question in
the last month(s) and I feel that's about enough.
Eric
> The problem is that the old lilo assumed that your bios could not boot
> up anything beyond 8GB so the partition containing /boot had to lie
> entirely below that line on the disk. This was a good assumption until
> about 2 years ago. Then computer bios's gained an extention which
> allowed them to boot from beyond the 1024 cyl limit.
> So if you have a new computer, you can either get the new lilo (probably
> best to use a new distro for that) or make sure that the partition
> containing /boot lies below the 1024 cyl limit. Eg, put a 4MB partiton
> at the bottom of the disk containing just /boot.
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot Partition too Big!!! ?!
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:09:40 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Lew wrote:
>
> On 9 Oct 2000 17:52:11 GMT, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >]Gary Leung wrote:
> >]>
> >]> I got 10G HD, I made partition 8G and 2G, I have my Windows 98 on 8G (c:)
> >]> then I boot up with the RedHat6.1 CD, and try to install (on my 2G drive),
> >]> when I go up to the partition, I can't set up the "Linux Native" drive, it
> >]> give reason "boot partition too big". Can anyone know why is that, and tell
> >]> me how to make it?
> >
> >]Yes I can, but I won't.
> >]Search deja.com. This question has been asked so often, you can very
> >]easily find an answer in previous posts/replies.
> >
> >Helpful bastard aren;t you.
> >
> >The problem is that the old lilo assumed that your bios could not boot
> >up anything beyond 8GB so the partition containing /boot had to lie
> >entirely below that line on the disk. This was a good assumption until
> >about 2 years ago. Then computer bios's gained an extention which
> >allowed them to boot from beyond the 1024 cyl limit.
> >So if you have a new computer, you can either get the new lilo (probably
> >best to use a new distro for that) or make sure that the partition
> >containing /boot lies below the 1024 cyl limit. Eg, put a 4MB partiton
> >at the bottom of the disk containing just /boot.
> >
> Very good answer.... that idiot doesn't know that one can go thru many
Calling names is fun heh.
If people didn't *POST* this question so frequently, it wouldn't show up
so frequently. I've searched deja myself often enough. And ran in to
some dead-links too. Doesn't change a thing to the fact that this is a
FAQ that, with a little effort from the original poster, would have been
resolved before even having to ask this here.
Eric
> msgs that just say "search deja.com" before finding the real answer;
> or even read alot of "off topic stuff" to find the "howto".
>
> Searching deja.com should not be used as an "answer" frequently unless
> deja.com does not store any "answers" that just say "search deja.com"
> or even "if you find out let me know" msgs.
>
> Now, is deja.com storing all msgs from "day 1" until "forever"? Can they
> afford the cost of the storage and let everyone use it "free"? At some
> point deja.com would have to delete some msgs as even 50 years of stuff
> could be alot, especially for "immediate" retrieval for world-wide
> newsgroups; even microsoft is overloading the newsgroup base.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Newbie: How do you setup 2 PC's using Rhat Linux 6.2?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:01:45 GMT
I just like to thank you *all* who are out there to
help out. This group is truly nice!
Much thanks to people who gave me lot of explicit
answers versus people referring me general HOWTO websites
that I have to find my way through. Tsk, tsk, bad suggestion...
Blaster pointed me at specific website where I can
really learn and follows steps. Also, thank to the person
who commented some specifics on the DNS issue. Thank, you all!
Leo
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Tomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lotus Notes in VMWare on Linux?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:09:09 +0300
"Steve Withers" wrote...
> The only thing keeping my work laptop on Windows is Lotus Notes.
>
> Anyonegot Notes client running on VM Ware on RedHat 6.x / 7. Linux?
>
> I have the Notes 5.02b (int'l English - not US) win32 client CD....then
> I add increments/updates to get it to 5.04a (which is a global unified
> english version - and faster than any Notes I've ever seen before).
>
> My laptop is a Dell Latitude CPx-J with the PIII-750 upgrade and 256MB
> of RAM.
>
> Anyone done this?????
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Steve Withers
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Don't know about WMWare, because i have never tested that,
so this is not an straight answer to your question, but take a look
at Win4Lin (http://www.netraverse.com)
I got AutoCAD LT 2000 up and running under Linux (SuSE 6.3)
with Win4Lin, maybe that will work with Lotus Notes also.
Regards
Tomas Nykung
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From: Jerome Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie: Password forgot
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:15:43 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello everyone,
I have forgot my root password....!
Do I have a possibility to change it or do I should reinstall the whole
software?
I use Linux Suse 6.4
Thanks a lot for your help,
Jerome
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From: Mogens Kjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.0 Kernel won't compile?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:45:33 +0200
Bernhard Mogens Ege wrote:
...
> I wrote:
> > Don't you need to modify INSTALL_PATH in the top Makefile in order
> > to get the new kernel at the right place? Else it would be put in /
> > instead of in /boot. And is the name correct?
...
> And what name were you referring to?
Previously, I've seen lilo.conf as default point to
/boot/vmlinuz-something,
but the new kernel was created in /boot as /boot/vmlinuz, overwriting
the
symlink from /boot/vmlinuz to vmlinuz-something. So if lilo.conf wasn't
modified, you would still boot vmlinuz-something.
"something" would typically be the kernel version.
Mogens
--
Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg Laboratory, Dept. of Chemistry
Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark
Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.crc.dk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Ristroph)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: My .forward causes "Service unavailable"
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:47:22 GMT
Look at the documentation on www.procmail.org. I think that you do
not need a .forward file with procmail on redhat 6.2; at least it
worked for me on 6.0 without one. When I moved from solaris to linux
I think that was the thing that fixed it.
--Rob
>>>>> "Tong" == Tong <Tong> writes:
Tong>
Tong> Hi,
Tong> My .forward & .procmailrc work on Solaris. When I tried the same
Tong> file on my linux (RH 6.2), The mail was always bounced with "Service
Tong> unavailable" error.
Tong>
Tong> Here is the debug output of sendmail:
Tong>
Tong> $ echo `date` | sendmail -v $LOGNAME
Tong> /home/tong/.forward: line 1: forwarding to "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test
-f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"
Tong> "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"...
Connecting to prog...
Tong> "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"...
Service unavailable
Tong> /home/tong/.forward: line 1: forwarding to "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test
-f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"
Tong> /home/tong/dead.letter... Saved message in /home/tong/dead.letter
Tong>
Tong>
Tong> The corresponding entry in /var/log/maillog file:
Tong>
Tong> Oct 9 18:23:10 myhost sendmail[5882]: SAA05882: to="|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmai
Tong> l&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std", ctladdr=tong (9999/1001),
delay=00:00:
Tong> 00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, stat=Service unavailable
Tong>
Tong>
Tong> Seems to me that my linux's mail delivering programs thinks that the
Tong> mailer is "prog" instead of "procmail", is it so? What should I
Tong> do/test to straight it out? Thanks!
Tong>
Tong> PS, here is some info FYI:
Tong>
Tong> $ cat ~/.forward
Tong> "|IFS=' '&&p=/usr/bin/procmail&&test -f $p&&exec $p -Yf-||exit 75 #std"
Tong>
Tong> $ dir /usr/bin/procmail
Tong> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root mail 69140 Jan 1 2000 /usr/bin/procmail*
Tong>
Tong> # procmail works fine:
Tong> $ procmail DEFAULT=/dev/null VERBOSE=yes /dev/null </dev/null
Tong> procmail: [5970] Mon Oct 9 19:43:24 2000
Tong> procmail: Rcfile: "/dev/null"
Tong> procmail: Assigning "MAILDIR=/home/tong"
Tong> procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=/dev/null"
Tong> procmail: Opening "/dev/null"
Tong> Folder: /dev/null 0
Tong>
Tong> Besides, it delivers ok if I remove the .forward file. And, the
Tong> .procmailrc works fine if I launch a dry run procmail on it.
Tong>
Tong> what should I do next? Thanks!
Tong>
Tong> --
Tong> Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
Tong> http://members.xoom.com/suntong001/
Tong> - All free contribution & collection & music from the heavens
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
From: Batchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I NEED A JOB!!
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 02:55:53 -0500
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Pavel Zaitsev wrote:
[snip]
> Linux programmers dont get paid alot. Live with it. ;-)
...yet...give it time. As Linux grows in popularity, it,
too, should yield some good-paying jobs.
Greg
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie: Password forgot
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:49:10 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jerome Meyer wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have forgot my root password....!
> Do I have a possibility to change it or do I should reinstall the whole
> software?
> I use Linux Suse 6.4
>
> Thanks a lot for your help,
>
> Jerome
There's never any need to reinstall everything in linux.
You can try if SuSE left a backdoor open:
at the lilo bootprompt enter `linux single` And see if that gets you in
as root. Otherwise use a boot/root floppy combo and change the root
password from there (You may be able to use the SuSE CD's for this)
Eric
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Subject: Re: Redhat 7.0 Kernel won't compile?
From: Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 07:56:20 GMT
>>>>> "Mogens" == Mogens Kjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Bernhard Mogens Ege wrote:
> ...
>> I wrote:
>> > Don't you need to modify INSTALL_PATH in the top Makefile in order
>> > to get the new kernel at the right place? Else it would be put in /
>> > instead of in /boot. And is the name correct?
> ...
>> And what name were you referring to?
> Previously, I've seen lilo.conf as default point to
> /boot/vmlinuz-something,
> but the new kernel was created in /boot as /boot/vmlinuz, overwriting
> the
> symlink from /boot/vmlinuz to vmlinuz-something. So if lilo.conf wasn't
> modified, you would still boot vmlinuz-something.
> "something" would typically be the kernel version.
Ok. The symlink overwriting does not take place anymore, but it is
changed to point at the new kernel (ln -sf). If /boot/vmlinuz is used
in /etc/lilo.conf, I guess no change needs ever be done after
"make install".
I have /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22 in my lilo.conf but having realised
what I just wrote, I might just change it to /boot/vmlinuz so I wont
have to remember changing /etc/lilo.conf in case of a new kernel.
regards,
Bernhard Ege
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From: "Jeroen Zwartepoorte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No driver for isdn card known
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:12:34 +0200
I also had some problems getting isdn-config to recognize my Teles 16.3
card. As it turn out, i had to specify IRQ 5 (7,8,9,10,11,12 didn't work) to
make it work correctly. Try experimenting with that setting.
Jeroen
"Bart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8rpudk$s5p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone tell me how to install E-tech Dolphin pcta128 PCI bus
isdn-card.
>
> I use Redhat 7.0.
>
> The isdn-config / hisax does not recognise my Isdn card.
>
> Thanks Bart.
>
>
>
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From: "JL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: About user login
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:18:32 +0800
Hi,
I am using RedHat Linux 6.2.
I just wonder is it possible to know who login(using telnet) into my server
and what did they do?
Thanks
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From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,sci.crypt
Subject: Re: A new directory hierarchy standard - need opinions
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:20:02 GMT
Ok, I see your point. However, how much different is this from
using HelixCode update? If you gain control of the central server
and everyone updates, everyone gets hosed. The only insurance
against this is the signature. If this is enough protection
then why can't a similar signature type system be developed for
entire directory hierarchies? Can NFS be enhanced so that
you can have signed directories based on something like gpg?
Alexander Viro wrote:
>
> Spoofing of all kinds. Wide-open to middleman attacks. Traffic analysis
> gives a _lot_ of interesting information. Any routing problems on major
> ISP immediately turn into massive DoS. Too many points where single failure
> brings a lot of damage. And server itself becomes extremely tasty morsel
> for every cracker on the planet - get in and you've got all clients.
> Could you spell "DDoS of really majestic proportions"? Could you spell
> "gain control over server, change the clients' idea of the IP of said
> server redirecting them to your mirror, then get the fsck out of server
> restoring everything in pristine condition"? Could you spell "mother of
> all class action lawsuits as soon as the shit will hit the fan"? Same
> applies for DNS spoofing, etc. The question with security problems is
> not "if", it's "when and how hard". Shit _will_ hit the fan and with your
> scheme consequences of a single compromise are going to be really nasty.
> Please, get real.
>
> --
> "You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
> "Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Newbie: How do you setup 2 PC's using Rhat Linux 6.2?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:20:08 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi, I have 2 PCs that I'd like to setup together to
> learn Apache webserver, printer server and DNS. Can
> someone help me please.
>
> I have 2 NIC cards (NE2000), 1 hub and Rhat Linux 6.2.
>
> Can someone give me the step-by-step procedure?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Leo
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
FWIW, RH6.2 comes with the NE2000 drivers working out of the box.
Just installing RH6.2 anc selecting the apropriate packages should
install a working web server. Just edit /home/http/html.
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Newbie: How do you setup 2 PC's using Rhat Linux 6.2?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:21:20 +0100
I've had no problems with NE2000 PCI.
-Ed
--
Konrad Zuse should recognised. He built the first | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4). | eng.ox.ac.uk
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A new directory hierarchy standard - need opinions
From: Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:25:03 GMT
>>>>> "Equinox" == Equinox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snipped some stuff]
> 2) /opt/ seems to be a "Program Files"-like directory [please excuse
> the reference to Windoze] for the installation of software
> packages that don't fit neatly into the /usr/* and /usr/local/*
> hierarchies. Why, then, do we have /opt/bin/ , /opt/lib/ , and
> so forth?
At our university, we have a scheme were we put software in
/pack-{arch}, mount it in /pack on the machine having architecture
{arch}, link stuff in there into /coll/{department,beta,local}. Local
is for local installations, beta for new software (we usually dont
change software during mid-course) and department for software from
other departments. The main point is that software is linked into
/coll (collection) from /pack (which is linked from /pack-{arch} which
again could originate from elsewere).
Ok, so lots of symlinks/mounts are involved here, but it does work
(has so for years). We are mostly using Sun's (/pack-sol2) though (SGI
and Linux is second place).
The root of all packages usually contain bin/lib/src/man/info/include
directories (all depending on the package)
e.g. /pack/matlab/bin/matlab (where /pack/matlab is automounted from a
remote host). matlab is accessed via /coll/local/bin/matlab.
The PATH variable contains /coll/local/bin (and other /coll/* if
needed) and they are put at the end of the PATH env.
For each new package added, /coll is updated (I use depot).
> I could go on... Note that this little rant shouldn't be taken to
> mean that I have come up with all the answers, and can produce a draft
> for my idea of FHS 3.0 right now. I haven't, and I can't. But I'll
> let you know when I have and I can. :)
> Just my two cents worth.
I also see the need for a better structure. I dont like putting all
sorts of packages into /usr or /usr/local. It gets messy and it is
difficult to remove the program (if rpm or something similar isn't
used).
Bernhard Ege
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: I NEED A JOB!!
Date: 10 Oct 2000 08:20:00 GMT
Pavel Zaitsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux programmers dont get paid alot. Live with it. ;-)
No? Not my experience - walked straight out of university at 21 into a
Unix programming job that pays several thousand pounds a year higher
than the average for computer scientists. My best friend from university
did exactly the same in a different company. I'd say the opportunities
for people who know their way around Linux/Unix, C, Perl, and
what-have-you are better now than they have been for many years.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Then hast thou joined the ARPANET? / Oh come to me, my bankrupt boy!
Quick, call the NIC! Send RFCs! / He chortled in his joy." - RFC 527
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Ristroph)
Subject: Re: downloading and running programs help
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:30:11 GMT
I think that some of the installation and usermanual type documents
should help you get started here; if you didn't buy a boxed set, those
documents are usually available from the place you downloaded your
distribution from.
Anyway:
tar files - usually end in .tar; these are collected bundles of many
other files; unpack them with the command "tar xvf file.tar", running
that command in the directory where you want the new stuff to appear.
Do "man tar" for more information.
gzipped files - usually end in .gz; these are compressed files;
uncompress them with "gunzip file.gz". Do "man gzip" and "man
gunzip."
tar'd and gzipped files -- these are pretty common; usually end in
.tar.gz but sometimes in .tgz; on linux tar knows about gzip, so you
can expand these with the command "tar xzvf file.tgz", or another
single line command is "gunzip -c file.tar.gz | tar xvf -" . Look at
the man pages on gunzip and tar to comprehend that.
bzip2'd files: end in .bz2. Basically a better version of gzip.
Commands follow the gunzip pattern; "man bzip2" and "man bunzip2" for
details.
zip files: I haven't delt with these in a while, but try the commands
uncompress and unzip, and look at the corresponding web pages.
bin files: the .bin extension usually mean that you run the file,
because it is an executable -- as in the command "./install.bin" .
rpm files: These are more than just a aggregation or compression of
files like the above. Do "man rpm" for more details, and there is
documentation on the web also. The basic commands are:
"rpm -Uvh file.rpm" installs -- actually an update which is an
install if no older package of that name exists.
"rpm -qf file" Note that you can run this on any random file on your
system, not just an rpm file. This tells you what package the file
came from. For a person new to linux or that distribution running
this on various files, followed by some other query commands below, is
a plausible way to start learning about everything.
"rpm -qa" this lists all the packages on your system -- usually piped
into less or grep to check to see what packages are on your system.
"rpm -qi package-name" this will list some information about what the
package is supposed to to.
"rpm -ql file.rpm" this lists all the files that will expand out of
the rpm when you install it.
Anyway, rpm is a subject that is pretty complecated, and it probably
isn't the best solution for what it is trying to accomplish, so let's
leave that to future flame wars.
So anyway, one of you mentioned broken dependancies when installing
rpms -- what you need to do is figure out which rpm has the file
"libncursesXXX.so" that is needed, install that rpm, and then attempt
again to install the thing that failed. I ran the command "locate
libncurses" to see that I had the file "/usr/lib/libncurses.so" and
"/usr/lib/libncurses.so.3.0" and some others -- then I ran the
commands "rpm -qf /usr/lib/libncurses.so" and also on the other files,
and determined that the rpms which you need to install are probably
ncurses-XXXX.rpm and maybe ncurses-devel-XXXXX.rpm and maybe
ncurses3-XXXX.rpm.
Well, that should get you guys started. When you come back to the
newsgroup again I hope you have more difficult questions. :)
--Rob
>>>>> "DTi4565459" == DTi4565459 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DTi4565459>
>> ))))Im a complete newby to Linux..Have mandrake 7 and I was wondering
>> how to
>> ))))download and install programs ..
>> ))))I have downloaded one but their is no set up to it how do I do
>> this..
>> ))))thanks
>> ))))
>>
>>
>> I'm also new at this and have been unable to get a program to work.
>> let's suppose it's any of these-what's the answer in each case?
>> Thanks in advance for your response, which I could sorely use.
>>
DTi4565459>
DTi4565459> Well, I'm new too. I've had best luck
DTi4565459> in KDE clicking on .rpm package on
DTi4565459> the CDROM disk. I still have more
DTi4565459> misses than hits, because of dependencies. Is something like
DTi4565459> "libncursesxxx" an executable, or
DTi4565459> something like a DLL. Do you install
DTi4565459> it, or just copy it somewhere. I will
DTi4565459> follow this thread, hoping for help
DTi4565459> myself.
DTi4565459>
DTi4565459> TIA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Disk Formatting & RAWRITE
Date: 10 Oct 2000 08:44:32 GMT
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:02:16 +0000 (UTC),
David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>However somthing to be aware of is that if you make a simple kernel boot
>floppy with 'cp /boot/vmlinuz /dev/fd0' you might need to use 'rdev' to
>tell it which partition to use as / and that may be a different partition
>on a different box. But that is not needed for install floppies.
>
And of course such a floppy is not mountable at all, as the kernel is
located where the file system superblok is supposed to be.
Villy
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