Linux-Setup Digest #805, Volume #19              Wed, 11 Oct 00 04:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: X question (gnome) ("bluster")
  GRUB ??? (Martin Racette)
  Re: soffice51 install (Mike Oliver)
  KDE and Mouse (Martin Racette)
  RH 7.0 Bugs (Jonathan Dent)
  Re: RH 7.0 Bugs (E J)
  Re: LILO frezes after PartitionMagic moves LINUX partitions ("Ross Jendrejcik")
  Boot Problems, LILO and fsck, need RECOVER help ("David N. Haney")
  Re: GRUB ??? ("Martin Collins")
  Re: LILO Setup in RH 7.0 (Eric)
  Re: X Fonts -- HELP (Eric)
  Re: ###How to Install Linux Mandrake??### (Eric)
  Re: Resolution (Eric)
  execute command ? (thierry baertschiger)
  Re: Cannon BJC 4400 Printer ("mpierce")
  KDE problem ("Martin Schmidt")
  Re: soffice51 install ("David ..")
  Cant� connect to ISP ("Henrik & Stine")
  Re: KDE problem (thierry baertschiger)
  Re: Boot Problems, LILO and fsck, need RECOVER help (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)

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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X question (gnome)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 00:50:46 -0400

All that and I forgot to mention that when the Xserver program
(/etc/X11/X) starts it looks at the /etc/X11/XF86Config file
for hardware settings, (e.g. screen, mouse, keyboard type, etc.)
though startx doesn't realy handle that part.

Bluster

bluster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:a1SE5.1423$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hagbard wrote:
>
> > thanks for the reply.
>
> You're welcome!
>
> > after choosing a desktop program, when i exit and then restart will
> > that desktop program be automatically loaded or would i have to run
> > switchdesk again?  from what i recall when i had linux running for a
> > bit earlier, it saves each users desktop information as a 'session' or
> > something like that, so maybe i just answered my own question.
>
> The switchdesk setting will stick, in fact you must restart X11 before
> it takes effect.
>
> > what files does 'startx' look to when deciding what you're running?
> > i'd like to poke around and see what's what.
>
> Well, it can be set up a lot of different ways, but the default
> RedHat setup works kind of like this:(warning: big long post follows)
>
> As far as the switchdesk thing goes, before a user selects an
> individual desktop preference the system default is used, this default
> desktop setting is stored in the /etc/sysconfig/desktop file.
> Mine has one line:
> DESKTOP="GNOME"
> When a user does select an individual desktop preference using
> switchdesk, a file named .Xclients is created in the home directory
> for that user (e.g. /home/bluster/.Xclients) which contains the
> "preferred desktop" setting.  More about this file later.
> NOTE: - The file is "hidden" because the first character is a dot
>       - the "ls -a" command will list all files (even if hidden)
>
> The startx program looks first for personal settings files in the
> users home dir. If not found there startx uses the system default
> files in the /etc/X11/xinit/ dir.  These are the files looked at
> by startx:
>
> Personal settings|System Defaults  |            Basic
> In Home Dir      |In /etc/X11/xinit|         Description
> -----------------|-----------------|--------------------------------
> .xserverrc       |    xserverrc    |To determine the server to run
> .xinitrc         |    xinitrc      |To determine the client(s) to run
>
> The default xinitrc script (which is run by startx) looks
> for some personal settings files in the users home dir, and then system
> default files in the /etc/X11/xinit/ dir, BUT xinitrc merges them
> together and uses BOTH. These are the files looked at by xinitrc:
>
> Personal settings|System Defaults  |            Basic
> In Home Dir      |In /etc/X11/xinit|         Description
> -----------------|-----------------|---------------------------------
> .Xresources      |   Xresources    |X server resource database settings
>                  |                 | ("man xrdb" for more info)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> .Xmodmap         |   Xmodmap       |keyboard scancode-to-function mapping
>                  |                 | ("man xmodmap" for more info)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> .Xkbmap          |   Xkbmap        |another style of keyboard settings
>                  |                 | (that I've not fiddled with yet)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> .Xclients        |   Xclients      |script to start 1st X11 client prog's
>                  |                 | (e.g. xclock, xterm, GNOME, etc.)
>
> The last X11 client program started in the (.)Xclients script gets
> control of the X server session, (when you close it the X server closes)
> so that is usually the desktop manager if you use one (e.g. GNOME or KDE).
>
> Gnome or KDE will look for a bunch of other files for its own settings,
> saved desktops, menu items, desktop icons, background, etc., etc...
>
> If you're feeling ambitious, the /usr/bin/X11/startx file itself is a
> bash shell script, so it is viewable text, you can read it using the
> less command, e.g. type:
>
> [bluster@zephyr]$ less /usr/bin/X11/startx
>
> You can get an idea of how X11 is started from reading it even without
> knowing a lot about shell script programming.  The same thing goes for
> the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc program.
>
> BTW: you can find out what "type" a file is by using the "file" command
e.g.
>
> [bluster@zephyr]$ whereis startx
> startx: /usr/bin/X11/startx
> [bluster@zephyr]$ file /usr/bin/X11/startx
> /usr/bin/X11/startx: Bourne shell script text
> [bluster@zephyr]$
>
> If you're not bored silly yet, then for even more info. do a "man" on the
> commands in this message. :-)
>
> > sorry if i sound like a complete dumbass, but when it comes to linux i
> > am :-)
>
> No problem, I like people who WANT to "learn to fish", instead of just
> ordering up some fish 'n chips, their questions keep getting better! ;-)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Bluster





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From: Martin Racette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GRUB ???
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 05:35:58 GMT

Hi guys,

I have installed Mandrake 7.1 and it use GRUB by default, but now I have=
=20
to re-install Windows98, but everytime I do this I need to reconstruct=20
the MBR, but when I use DRAKCONF, it install LILO instead of GRUB, and I=
=20
would like to know how do I install GRUB, without having to use the=20
Mandrake's CDs, and do an UPDATE, to re-install GRUB

So if anyone could help me I would appreciate

Thank you in advance

Merci a l'avance

Martin

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From: Mike Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: soffice51 install
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:39:09 -0700

Mike Oliver wrote:
 
> Also, when I installed StarOffice 5.2, it said something about
> ABABAS not being available (not sure of spelling).  Any
> idea what that is?

It appears that it's Adabas, not Ababas.  The StarOffice install
program promised that I could download Adabas.  So I went to
the site and they have it for a bunch of platforms, including
SuSE Linux, but not RedHat.  Any idea if the SuSE version will
work on RedHat as well?

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From: Martin Racette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE and Mouse
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 05:38:28 GMT

Hi guys,

I'm left handed and so I configure the mouse to be use as such, but ever=
y=20
time I logout/login I need to re-setup the mouse to be left handed and=20
have the proper acceleration speed

How do I make it stick to those settings ???? (this is the only setting =

that doesn't hold)

Thank you in advance

Merci a l'avance

Martin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Dent)
Subject: RH 7.0 Bugs
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:39:47 GMT

I just upgraded 6.1 to 7.0. I lost eth0, even though all settings are
the same.  I lost sound capabilities, and the linuxconf and setup
won't let me adjust anything, and I cant mount my dos drives anymore.
any ideas, before I downgrade?
thanks

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 7.0 Bugs
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:07:04 -0700

Jonathan Dent wrote:

> I just upgraded 6.1 to 7.0. I lost eth0, even though all settings are
> the same.  I lost sound capabilities, and the linuxconf and setup
> won't let me adjust anything, and I cant mount my dos drives anymore.
> any ideas, before I downgrade?
> thanks

# sndconfig              # fix your sound

# vi /etc/lilo.conf    # RH7.0 is probably using the old kernel from 6.1
switch to the new kernel for 7.0

boot=/dev/hda3
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
linear
default=dos
message=/boot/message
# CHANGE THIS LINE FROM THE OLD KERNAL TO THE NEW KERNAL
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
        label=linux
        append="hdc=ide-scsi"
        read-only
        root=/dev/hda4
        initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.16-22.img

other=/dev/hda1
        label=dos


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From: "Ross Jendrejcik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: LILO frezes after PartitionMagic moves LINUX partitions
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:53:50 +0200

Boot from boot disk and type "lilo"
Ross

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ruut4$rg2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> This might be a FAQ.
> I have installed RH5.2 (dual boot with Win95) and recently I moved all
> my LINUX partition with PartitionMagic.  When I rebooted the PC
>
> The first tragedy struck.
> Lilo did not run and the screen stuck on 'LI' as if LILO cannot find
> the rest of itself.  I have a boot disk
> but, it seems that I needed an image from the CD to create a rescue
> disk.
>
> The second tragedy struck.
> I had originally installed my RH5.2 with the help of my earstwhile
> mentor.   He had the original installation images downloaded and burned
> on to a CD.  He is nowhere to be found, having resigned a month ago....
>
>
> On the other hand, I have Michael Kofler's book with 2 RH6.0 CD (?).
> Well, I know the latest is 6.2 but am not willing to go out of my way to
> purchase it.... :-)
>
> Now any advice will be appreciated.
>
> I am planing to boot the RH Installation CD. Question is that : Will it
> go into rescue mode?  I am plaing to mount the LINUX partition with
> something like...
>
> mount -t ext2 /dev/hda/mnt/disk
>
> and then attempt to run lilo (as root ?)
>
> lilo -r /mnt/disk
>
> and then attempt to reboot.
>
> Please advise.  I am a novice on how to restore LILO, being new at this
> kind of thing, anything is better than nothing.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: "David N. Haney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Boot Problems, LILO and fsck, need RECOVER help
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:24:13 -0700

Linux Gurus:

I have an odd problem.  I have a machine (Compaq) with a 10G disk
that has been partitioned with hda1 as Win98, hda2 as Linux swap,
and hda3 as Linux native.

The Linux is Caldera 2.4.  While in windows something odd happened
and it went out to lunch (stupid MS).  Upon rebooting, the error of
"no operating system" is obtained.  I assume this means that the 
problem is LILO has gotten corrupted.

Attempting to boot with the Linux Rescue floppy yeilds an error:
"Kernel panic unable to mount root fs on 03:03"

I am guessing that perhaps the file system may need to be checked
before mounting (ie run fsck).  How do I recover and get around this
problem?  I have tried copying fsck to the boot floppy (on a different
system), but when I run in in the boot shell, I get segmentation fault.

Thanks for your assistance.
-- 
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From: "Martin Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: GRUB ???
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:28:27 +0200

Hi Martin,

if you look in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin you should be able to find the grub
program. You just have to execute that and use it to reinstall the grub
loader to your MBR.
I'm a bit hazy about the exact location, because although I've got grub on
my linux machine, it's not down at the moment so I can't check. So if you
still have problems tomorrow post again.

Cheers,

Martin.





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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO Setup in RH 7.0
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:54:12 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tom Ratrie wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I was wondering if someone could help me configure my LILO.CONF file
> properly.
> I have a UDMA 66 controller w/ 2 - 20g drives attached to it.  In order for
> me to get RH 7 installed I had to specify
> IDE2=0xd400,0xd800 IDE3=0xdc00, 0xe000 during the installation and
> everything went fine....but....
> when it got to the part about where to put LILO I forgot to add these
> parameters during the install....soooo....
> Now everytime I want to boot RH 7, I have to CTRL-X to the BOOT: prompt and
> type these parms in...
> 
> Now I did a little digging and discovered that you can add such parms to the
> LILO.CONF file located in the ETC directory.
> Well, I've tried adding the line:
> 
> append="ide2=0xd400,0xd800 ide3=0xdc00"
> 
> to the LILO.CONF file but everytime I boot linux, it halts saying it can't
> load the kernal.  I end up having to drop to the BOOT: propmt and manually
> entering the parms.  Its as if it doesn't even recognize the append line.  I
> have tried adding it to both the beginning of the file and to the linux
> stanza.  It seems no matter where I put this in the file, it doesn't have
> any effect.
> 
> Any, suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom

rerun /sbin/lilo after you made changes to the lilo.conf?
LILO is only rewritten when you do this, otherwise the changes take no
effect.
(You have to create some sort of a BIOS executable (by running
/sbin/lilo), since the lilo.conf file isn't read on runtime)

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: X Fonts -- HELP
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:04:44 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dodd wrote:
> 
> I just installed xfstt to try to get Truetype fonts working on my
> RH6.2 box.  I got the RPM installed fine, copied the fonts to
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype and sync-ed xfstt.  Now when I try to start
> X (KDE) I get a Fatal Error that says it cannot find default font
> 'fixed'.  Where do I get 'fixed' and where do I put it??  And anything
> else I need to know to get this thing to work again.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dodd
> Remove BLAH from e-mail to reply.

I had this when I switched from XFree86-3.x to 4.
Turned out you need the fontpath where this fixed font is defined as the
first fontpath listed. This path is on my PC 

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias

in this fonts.alias the fixed-font is defined (take a look at this
file's content)

How you ensure it's the first with xfstt I don't know. With XFree86-4,
which renders it's own fonts, it just has to be the first line in the
Fonts section in /etc/X11/XF86Config


Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ###How to Install Linux Mandrake??###
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:07:19 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Learner wrote:
> 
> i am running win Me, but i want to install Linux Mandrake
> I used partition magic to create two partitions for Linux
> first is the Linux Ext2 partition and the other is the Swap partition. They
> both are logical partition. During the setup process, it requires me to
> create a root in the Linux ext2 partition, i don't quiet understand what
> does it mean.
> does anyone can tell me? it is in the partition setup part.
> 
> Please Help~

Just select the ext2 partition and name it /

That's all there's to it (I don't know the mandrake installer, so I
cannot tell you exactly what to do)

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Resolution
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:09:12 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rachel Rumsey wrote:
> 
> How do you change the resolution using Linux Redhat 6.2?

You run XConfigurator (but make sure to back up the current
/etc/X11/XF86Config file first, in case of an error)

Eric

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From: thierry baertschiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: execute command ?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:20:24 +0200

I'm looking for a small x program to start applications like the one
under kde (a small window: " Execute : ___________ "). It's only to
avoid opening an xterm window for only one command ! 

Does anybody know if that kind of programs exist ? 


thanks !!


thierry


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From: "mpierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannon BJC 4400 Printer
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:34:32 +1100
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help

Login as root and run "printtool" in a terminal.
Under the filter section, choose the BJC4000 driver.
Make sure you choose fix stair step, EOF and the other option that is
there. 

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David .."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone been able to get their Cannon BJC 4400 configured or know
> where I could get information on configuring one on a redhat 6.2 system?
> Or what driver it uses since there isn't one for it in printtool.
> 
> Converting someone to linux but they need their printer. Thanks.

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From: "Martin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE problem
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:27:56 +0200


Hi,

I have a problem with KDE when i create users
myself instead of using yast for this purpose.
I use Suse 7.0 and i add the users with the
useradd command.
The problem is that with this users kde wont start
and the following error message appears :
Waiting 2 seconds for /home/username/Desktop
being created by kfm.

Does anyone know what causes the problem ?

Thanks in advance,
Martin




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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: soffice51 install
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 02:27:26 -0500

Mike Oliver wrote:
> 
> If I might ask -- how did you find this out?  I saw no hint
> of it on Sun's site (nor, really, any installation instructions
> of any kind).

I read the directions. ;)

> Also, when I installed StarOffice 5.2, it said something about
> ABABAS not being available (not sure of spelling).  Any
> idea what that is?

I didn't install Adabas yet.

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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From: "Henrik & Stine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cant� connect to ISP
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:36:58 +0200

Hey!

I have for some days now tried to connect to my ISP thrugh an ordinary
(proper) modem. In the Gnome/Enligtenment GUI I find the modem in a program
called internet connection. Its placed on /dev/ttyS0 and when I hit the
debug button it dials-up fine (that is, I hear the usual noise). But then
the show stops, and nothing more happens. The program says pppd has died
(exit code = 1).

When I look in /var/log/messages it says

pppd[28662]:the remote system (ppp2) is required to authenticate itself but
I couldn�t find any suitable secret (password) for it to do so
ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp2 on /dev/ttyS0 at 115200
modprope: can�t locate module char-major-108

These 3 lines are apparently repeated in the log-file for as long as I try
to connect.


The OS is RH 6.1 and I had everything up and running 6 months ago, but I
just can�t remember what to do to get the modem working!!

Any help will be much appreciated

H. Larsen



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From: thierry baertschiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE problem
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:53:12 +0200

Martin Schmidt wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a problem with KDE when i create users
> myself instead of using yast for this purpose.
> I use Suse 7.0 and i add the users with the
> useradd command.
> The problem is that with this users kde wont start
> and the following error message appears :
> Waiting 2 seconds for /home/username/Desktop
> being created by kfm.
> 
> Does anyone know what causes the problem ?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Martin

you should use yast !! the problem should be a kde-bug (one more !!)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Boot Problems, LILO and fsck, need RECOVER help
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:07:31 GMT

"David N. Haney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Linux Gurus:
>
>I have an odd problem.  I have a machine (Compaq) with a 10G disk
>that has been partitioned with hda1 as Win98, hda2 as Linux swap,
>and hda3 as Linux native.
>
>The Linux is Caldera 2.4.  While in windows something odd happened
>and it went out to lunch (stupid MS).  Upon rebooting, the error of
>"no operating system" is obtained.  I assume this means that the 
>problem is LILO has gotten corrupted.
>
>Attempting to boot with the Linux Rescue floppy yeilds an error:
>"Kernel panic unable to mount root fs on 03:03"
>
>I am guessing that perhaps the file system may need to be checked
>before mounting (ie run fsck).  How do I recover and get around this
>problem?  I have tried copying fsck to the boot floppy (on a different
>system), but when I run in in the boot shell, I get segmentation fault.
>
>Thanks for your assistance.

Are you certain that the "no operating system" message begins with a
lower case n? What is the exact message?

Well, if it is "Missing operating system" this is an error message
from a standard DOS MBR, when no boot signature is present in the
active partition. Then there is a chance that the Windows boot problem
is as simple as setting hda1 active using DOS fdisk.

You have the option to get Findpart at

http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/utilities.htm

do

findpart all +fat fp.txt

and post the content from fp.txt.
-- 
Svend Olaf

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