Linux-Setup Digest #816, Volume #19 Thu, 12 Oct 00 18:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: permissions, so confused ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux installed twice on one pc (John)
Re: dual boot large disk problem ("blah..blah..")
Re: Redhat 6.2 ("blah..blah..")
Re: Bizarre shell problem. Please help (Colin Watson)
Re: permissions, so confused (Vilmos Soti)
Storm install problem with Secondary IDE controller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Licq upgrade (Frank Johnson)
Really dumb question!!! (P. U. Psilanimous)
Re: DNS problems w/ Linux in an NT network ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DNS problems w/ Linux in an NT network (Jan Johansson)
Re: DNS problems w/ Linux in an NT network (Leandro Gelasi)
Re: Aureal Sound Cards (Alan Jones)
soundcard drivers for biostar? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Laptopupgrade Suse 6.2 nach 7.0 (Sebastian Niehaus)
Command to tell what flavor of unix your running? ("Yavin")
Re: Command to tell what flavor of unix your running? (Craig Holyoak)
Making LILO boot windows (Pippin Barr)
NIS: ypserv does not accept 'clear' during (re-)make of db (doug reeder)
Re: Command to tell what flavor of unix your running? (Vilmos Soti)
Re: cant connect to internet (Stanislaw Flatto)
Re: Boot Partition two drives (Stanislaw Flatto)
lost boot.b (Scott Nolde)
Re: Making LILO boot windows (Stanislaw Flatto)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: permissions, so confused
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:11:01 GMT
Okay, thanks guys! I just had that tone because I asked that question
5 times over in networking and got no reply...and it was such a simple
question. Let me get one more thing straight. That is cool that I
have to be root to test it and that it can be loaded at startup (which
I have no problem doing.) I just have a question about the actual
mounting. If smb is running and I pop up Samba as a user, I can mount
a drive, but the resulting folder is empty. If I use samba as root, I
get folders that contain files, no prob. Do I have to mount these
drives in the startup script as well? Or is my samba just not working
the way everyone elses does? Thanks!
Dan Allen
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:06:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Black Dragon) wrote:
>
>On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:10:04 -0000 in comp.os.linux.setup,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' said:
>
>>Let me get this straight, you are upset because your computer is secure
>>agains unauthorized people running programs as root??? Just set it up to
>>start the service automatically everytime you start up the system. The
>>easy way to do this is to use the run level editor.
>
>Or from the command line: "chkconfig smb on"
>
>>dja13 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, look. You can't run samba if you can't start it. If I am not
>>> root, I can't start it...so I am a little screwed here unless I want
>>> to su everything...
>>>
>>> if I run
>>>
>>> /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb start
>>>
>>> I get "must have user ID of 0 to run" What is that...I mean, why do I
>>> have to be root (ID of 0) to run smb???? I can do sharing, but I just
>>> have to su the terminal to start smb servies and I have to su samba or
>>> KDE explorer to get to the shares on teh windoze machine.
>>>
>>> How do I give myself access...this is ridiculous, I am just going to
>>> login as root all the time!
>
>Calm down, take a deep breath, inhaling through your nose, and exhaling through
>your mouth. . . Feel better now? The smb service is intended to be started
>when Linux is booted, which will be done with root privileges. It's explained
>above how to do it -- with a gui run level editor, chkconfig, or the hard way
>which is renaming the symbolic links in the /etc/rc.d/rc*.d sub dirs. (* = run
>level, 3 = console, 5 = X11, etc.)
>
>--
>Black Dragon
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux installed twice on one pc
Date: 13 Oct 2000 02:27:53 +0800
mb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I have a three identical pentium pc's with 15 gb Harddisk space.
> I use one PC as a Linux Router and another as Samba server. I bought the
> third pc for emergency situations. If one of the two systems crashes i want
> to be able to swap the spare pc with the router or the samba server without
> having to change any settings. (The three pc's have swappable harddrives)
If you use drive mirroring (raid0 I think it's called), and you can simply
slide drives out, then do that. Plug 'em into the spare box and go, complete
with your latest data.
Apart from BIOS, there's nothing to configure.
You might also think about firewire; I gather you don't even have to power down
before removing drives.
There's support in the 2.4 kernels, ut be warned the Chief Architect hasn't
approved 2.4 for general use yet.
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From: "blah..blah.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual boot large disk problem
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:11:47 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm trying to install RedHat 6.2 on a machine that already has Windows
> 98 running on it. The machine has one 42 GB disk. I ran fips to
> shrink the 42 GB partition down to 18 GB and plan to place linux in the
> remaining space.
>
> Unfortunately I encountered a problem at the install stage that
> specifies the partitions. I tried to create a linux native parition
> for "/" of size 2000 MB, but the installer complained that the
> partition was too big. I believe it is complaining because it thinks
> the windows partition is too big (and hence the boot partition can't be
> placed at the front of the disk).
>
> I don't want to wipe my disk and place a boot partition within the
> first ~500 MB of the disk. Surely there must be a way around this
> problem.
>
> Any help or advice?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Both linux and windows require their OS loaders to be present in the MBR.
And this lies in the very begining of a hard disk i.e. within 1024
cylinders. Now, you have two options here: - Use partition magic, it will
do the necessary stuff of allocating MBR for Linux or wipe out your system
and allocate first few megs say 10 megs and start using the remaining
space for win 98 and linux. Remember to have the first partition as FAT.
cheers
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From: "blah..blah.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.2
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:18:44 -0500
Mick wrote:
> I cannot setup RH6.2 on my pc with 13Gb HDD. I reached the stage where I can
> setup the mount points and nominate the size ok. RH even acknowledge the HDD
> is 13Gb - but the "next" button to proceed is greyed out and I can go no
> further!
>
> Any suggestions? (RH6.2 cannot support 13Gb HDD?)
I've installed linux on a 42 gig hard drive so 13 shouldn't be a problem. These
are some wild guesses i'm making in your case:-
1) You might have a third party SCSI card which linux thinks as some other SCSI
card. Remove it.
2) Your hard drive IDE cable is faulty.
These two are the cases i encountered while installing on some systems. Had a
hard time figuring it out
:-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Bizarre shell problem. Please help
Date: 12 Oct 2000 19:44:44 GMT
Servet Ahmet Cizmeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[root@seawifs etc]# /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid
>bash: /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid: No such file or directory
>
>however the file exists with correct execution permissions
>
>[root@seawifs etc]# ls -l /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid
>-rwxr-xr-x 10 acizmeli users 219264 Oct 31 1997
>/usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid
>
>I AM COMPLETELY STUCK. WHY WOULD THE SHELL NOT FIND THIS FILE TO RUN
If it's a script, the first line of the file will start with the two
characters '#!'. Check that the rest of that line points to an existing
file.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"How can you tell an extroverted software engineer?"
"He looks at *your* shoes when he talks to you."
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Subject: Re: permissions, so confused
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:49:08 GMT
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb start
>
> I get "must have user ID of 0 to run" What is that...I mean, why do I
> have to be root (ID of 0) to run smb???? I can do sharing, but I just
> have to su the terminal to start smb servies and I have to su samba or
> KDE explorer to get to the shares on teh windoze machine.
Yes, only root should be able to start samba. ;-) This is based on the
assumption that root knows what s/he does, and also s/he is trusted.
Unfortunately windows networking is very fragile, and with a misconfigured
samba server, it is easy to screw up the whole network. This is exactly
what happened in my company two weeks ago when someone (who didn't really
know what he was doing) started samba with "os level" set to high, and
our whole windows network collapsed. Now the question. Do you want ANYBODY
who has access to a machine, trusted or untrusted (think of university
environment) to be able to start samba or a major service?
Also, samba uses ports under 1024 which are privileged ones and root right
is necessary to bind to them. To start such a server, the user has to
be either root, or the daemon has to be suid by root.
> How do I give myself access...this is ridiculous, I am just going to
> login as root all the time!
As others said, just start samba at startup.
Don't be logged in as root all the time. Use an unprivileged account,
and su when you need root access. If you configured your server correctly
then you really won't need to su often.
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Storm install problem with Secondary IDE controller
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:37:40 GMT
I have a computer that I am having trouble installing Storm2000 Rain on.
It is a P166 and the problem seems to be with the secondary IDE
controller. I had a problem with the IDE controller that is built into
the motherboard so I added a Promise Ultra/33 controller. This
controller works fine with Win98, Linux Mandrake 7.1, Red Hat 6.2 and
7.0, but when the install of Storm gets to the partitioning section, no
drives or partitions are listed.
With other Linux distributions, the first IDE disk drive is labeled
/dev/hda, second is /dev/hdb ... With my computer the first IDE drive
is /dev/hde because no hard drives are connected to the primary IDE
controller, but are connected to the Promise controller.
I went to another virtual terminal and logged on as root and looked in
the /dev directory. These was no /dev/hde, /dev/hdf, /dev/hdg, /dev/hdh
there.
Does a new boot.img floppy image exist that supports more hard disks?
If not, would it be easy to create?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Frank Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Licq upgrade
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:52:15 +0100
Ali wrote:
> I`m trying to upgrade Licq to the latest version, the problem is that when I
> run the rpm file it fails because
> it needs certain files namely:-
>
> libcrypto.so.0
> libssl.so.0
>
> Anyone help me with this.
>
> TIA
>
> Ali
Try searching using yahoo it is suprisingly good. alternatively go to
rpmfind.
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From: P. U. Psilanimous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Really dumb question!!!
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:03:05 GMT
Yes, this is a probably stupid question.
I've downloaded the ISO images for RedHat 7.0 along with the boot.img
file. I've run rawrite and made an installation boot disc which works
fine. Of course, Ive burned the ISO files on 2 CD's but they are not
recognized as a valid file.
What do I need to do to the ISO image files to make them workable.
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: DNS problems w/ Linux in an NT network
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:00:14 GMT
Your admin is a shmuck, he does'nt know what he's talking about. Even
if your linux box is running the namedd deamon, clients would have to
be configured to use it anyways. Configure inet not to start the named
d deamon and you'll be fine.
In article <8s4oku$lor$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am having problems using my Linux box in an NT network.
> System administrator complains that my machines tries to
> act as DNS server so I am forbidden to use it :-(
>
> Does anyone know how to avoid this? And have Linux
> live peacefully together with NT (I know it is a nonsense;-)
> or at least make me live peacefully together with my sysadmin
> and enjoy using a real operating system?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Bye
>
> --
> Enrico Spinielli
> >> Do androids dream of electric sheep? <<
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: DNS problems w/ Linux in an NT network
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:15:37 GMT
>Your admin is a shmuck, he does'nt know what he's talking about. Even
>if your linux box is running the namedd deamon, clients would have to
>be configured to use it anyways. Configure inet not to start the named
>d deamon and you'll be fine.
Schmuck? We run the same policy, NO system is allowed to run ANY
server services without written permission.
Would you really like your corporate network flooded with various
services?
In regard of his question:
Look trough all startup files, and disable anything related to bind
and named and that should be taken care of.. Or use IPchains to block
all traffic until you have figured out how to disable it.
ipchains -A input -p TCP --destination-port 53 -j REJECT
ipchains -A input -p UDP --destination-port 53 -j REJECT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leandro Gelasi)
Subject: Re: DNS problems w/ Linux in an NT network
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:42:52 GMT
In article <8s4oku$lor$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi all,
> I am having problems using my Linux box in an NT network.
> System administrator complains that my machines tries to
> act as DNS server so I am forbidden to use it :-(
>
Probably you have bind active. Remove it.
LG
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Leandro Gelasi
V year Computer Science Engineering student at Siena University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gilles Villeneuve will live forever
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Jones)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Aureal Sound Cards
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:49:02 GMT
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:42:45 -0700, me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The folks over at SourceForge have improved the Aureal driver, and
>their modified version is supposed to work much better. You can get
>the modified driver, and information abvout it, here:
>
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/aureal/
What chip does the Montego A3DXtream use?
Is there a Linux driver for it? Will it work with SMP?
Alan Jones
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.multimedia,comp.os.os2.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: soundcard drivers for biostar?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:00:50 GMT
Greetings!
This mainboard has an on-board sound chip, something I usually
avoid. I can't get it to make a sound in OS/2 or in Linux.
Anyone got it working?
F.
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Felmon John Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Union College / Schenectady, NY
os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
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From: Sebastian Niehaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Laptopupgrade Suse 6.2 nach 7.0
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:07:24 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Follow up to german NG set
Reiner Wieland wrote:
>
> Hallo Linux Spezialisten
> Hier ist ein Problem mit dem Upgrade auf Suse 7.0,
> meine Umgebung ist
> 1. Laptop Extensa 24Mb mit CD oder Floppy auf der HD 800 MB nur Suse 6.2
>
> 2. vernetzt mit WinNT 4.0
> Frage: Gibt es eine M�glichkeit aus dem laufenden System auf 7.0
> umzusteigen,
Wenn ich richtig verstehe. Der Laptop soll "upgegradet" werden, NT soll
weiterlaufen?
Da eine neue Kernelversion aufgespielt wird, ist ein Reboot
erforderlich. F�r ein upgrade wirst Du von CD / Installlationsdisk
booten m�ssen
> oder wie kann ich die Yastbremse "ftp nur mit min 72 Mb" umgehen?
Warum nicht von CD? Mit ftp / YaST habe ich leider keine Erfahrung.
Sebastian
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From: "Yavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Command to tell what flavor of unix your running?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:19:57 -0700
Is there a command that is pretty univeral to tell you what flavor and
version your logging into is? Thanx
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From: Craig Holyoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Command to tell what flavor of unix your running?
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:25:54 -1000
Yavin wrote:
>
> Is there a command that is pretty univeral to tell you what flavor and
> version your logging into is? Thanx
uname -a should give you enough info.
--
Craig Holyoak
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.uq.net.au/craigh/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pippin Barr)
Subject: Making LILO boot windows
Date: 12 Oct 2000 21:25:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, just a small problem, but one I'm not having much luck with...
I'm trying to edit my lilo.conf to allow me to boot a windows
partition I have on the system (which is currently unreachable)
My harddrive is hde (don't ask), and when I mount it looks as though
/dev/hde2 has all my windows files on it...
So I'm guessing I use:
other=/dev/hde2
label=windows
But that doesn't work by itself...
I was reading some docs and saw people suggest adding a table= line,
but I'm not sure what device should go in there?
For the record, I tried table=/dev/hde (the MBR), but that didn't
work... when I tried to boot windows it printed a line of funny
characters (including a smiley face... the mockery!) and sat there.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
PJ
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And the power you possess.
In your satin tights, fighting for your rights
And the old Red, White and Blue.
- Wonder Woman
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Dr. Dr. Pippin Barr
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (doug reeder)
Subject: NIS: ypserv does not accept 'clear' during (re-)make of db
Date: 12 Oct 2000 21:25:31 GMT
I've installed NIS on a group of machines running RH 6.1. Normal
authentication works fine, but I'm having trouble getting NIS to
accept an updated database. Specifically, when i run the make
script in /var/yp, I get the error
failed to send 'clear' to local ypserv: RPC: Timed out
for every table. Ypserve and ypbind are both running and otherwise
appear normal:
[root@ursatz yp]# ps -e | grep yp
328 ? 00:00:00 rpc.yppasswdd
12309 ? 00:00:00 ypbind
12310 ? 00:00:01 ypbind
28952 ? 00:00:03 ypserv
[root@ursatz yp]# /usr/sbin/rpcinfo -p
program vers proto port
.
.
.
100004 2 udp 722 ypserv
100004 1 udp 722 ypserv
100004 2 tcp 725 ypserv
100004 1 tcp 725 ypserv
Stopping and starting ypserve makes NIS use the new databases.
This would be an adequate solution if yppasswd didn't have the same
problem (users can cannot change their NIS passwords without
sysadmin intervention).
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GE/S d+ s+:- a C+@$ UH+ P+ L E W++ N+ o? K? w !O M+ V PS+() PE Y+ PGP- t 5+ !X
R>+ tv+ b+++>$ DI+ D- G e+++ h r+>+++ y+>++
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~reeder/reeder.html
GE/S d+ s+:- a C+@$ UH+ P+ L E W++ N+ o? K? w !O M+ V PS+() PE Y+ PGP- t 5+ !X
R>+ tv+ b+++>$ DI+ D- G e+++ h r+>+++ y+>++
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Subject: Re: Command to tell what flavor of unix your running?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:30:45 GMT
"Yavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a command that is pretty univeral to tell you what flavor and
> version your logging into is? Thanx
uname
Vilmos
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cant connect to internet
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:47:04 +1000
If it is of any help.
Had this problem with wvdial, solved by calling wvdial as root and using
the established connection as lowly user by switching consoles.
It works.
Will worry about administration of permissions sometime later.
Stanislaw.
patrick wrote:
> hi there,
>
> im trying to connect to the internet using debian and wvdial.
>
> i have established a nameserver configuration file, and created
> a link from the serial port connected to the modem to /dev/modem.
>
> my reference then suggests the following two commands
>
> 1. type in - route del default
> output - SIOCDELRT: No such process
>
> 2. type in - wvdial
> output - cannot open /dev/modem: Input/output error
>
> anyone with any suggestions?
>
> patrick
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot Partition two drives
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:57:35 +1000
Michael wrote:
> I will be running Win98 on my first drive and Mandrake 7.0 on the second. Do
> I need a Boot partition on my windows drive for LILO? If so will windows see
> that as C:\ ?
Hi!
The short answer is NO.
LILO will install itself in MBR on first drive. It does not have to have a
partition for this.
Just in case any hickups develop, prepare from Win98 DOS-Prompt screen a booting
diskette by calling "format a: /s" and then copy on this diskette FDISK.EXE.
In emergency boot from floppy and give the command "fdisk /mbr".
It removes LILO.
Enjoy Linux.
Stanislaw.
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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lost boot.b
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:56:47 GMT
I did something prety stupid and I lost the boot directory. I have my
kernel bzImage file, and a good lilo.conf file, but lilo complains:
Fatal: open /boot/boot.b: No such file or directory
Is there a method to recover this? I'm running RedHat 7.0.
Email me directly also, please.
Thanks,
Scott
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making LILO boot windows
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:09:24 +1000
Pippin Barr wrote:
> Hi, just a small problem, but one I'm not having much luck with...
>
> I'm trying to edit my lilo.conf to allow me to boot a windows
> partition I have on the system (which is currently unreachable)
>
> My harddrive is hde (don't ask),
Hi there!
Q1) Did windows activate from this drive normally?
Being it a MS-Product it is VERY egoistic.
Try "man lilo.conf" and pay special attention to remapping of drives so
they appear as first drive to the booting OS.
And every time you touch lilo.conf run this "/sbin/lilo -C
/etc/lilo.conf"
Enjoy.
Stanislaw.
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