Linux-Setup Digest #832, Volume #19 Sun, 15 Oct 00 16:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Please help me move on with the rest of my life - please ("Dave Stanton")
Re: VMware on Linux
NVidia OpenGL drawing in wrong part of screen! ("Eddie Aftandilian")
SB Live 1024 and Redhat 6.1 ("Richard Tucker")
Re: IPChains and Cable Modems - Fequently loosing connectivity to the Internet
(Giuseppi Tubiere)
Re: Minimal embedded linux? (Wolfgang Denk)
Re: A new directory hierarchy standard - need opinions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Where do "Programs" go? ("Lamar Thomas")
Re: A new directory hierarchy standard - need opinions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Warning: Setting Locale Failed (Bryan Robinson)
Re: NVidia Vanta driver (Loren Brookes)
change IP address with ifconfig (Zhihui Zhang)
Re: VMware on Linux (Loren Brookes)
Re: Where do "Programs" go? ("J.Smith")
RedHat 7.0, suexec and sympa not working ("Thomas Glen Smith\(Smitty\)")
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From: "Dave Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please help me move on with the rest of my life - please
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 12:13:21 +0100
"A-Need-to-Learn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8saavr$q2s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Folks,
> I need a bit of intense help:
> I can get my Linux to ping my Win98SE but
> I cannot get Win98SE to ping my Linux by IP and by name in the Hosts file.
Win98 encrypts passwords, you may need to tell samba to accept encrypted
passwords.
Cheers
Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: VMware on Linux
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:20:52 GMT
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 12:24:18 +0200, Andrey Shipsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>First I appologise if this message is beyond the scope of this
>newsgroup.
>
>I'd like to give a try to VMware because I need to run a few Win
>applications from Linux. I have downloaded the evaluation copy of VMware
>for Linux but I can't figure out how to get Windows 98 started...
>
>I have a dual drive and dual system machine. Win98 is installed on
>/dev/hda. Linux happily lives on /dev/hdb. I ran through the config
>wizard. After that I powered on the Virtual machine. I could see the
>start screen with RAM and hardware checking but then VMware reported
>"Operating systen not found"... What else I have to do to start Win98
>using Vmware?
e-mail the folks @ vmware. They're amazingly helpful w/ setting up.
I can't help you much as I did a clean install of windoze into vmware's
virtual drive. It was just like a brand spanking new PC. I even had to install
DOS and install CDROM drivers before I could access the windoze install CD.
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From: "Eddie Aftandilian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NVidia OpenGL drawing in wrong part of screen!
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 14:18:46 -0400
I finally figured out how to compile and install the Nvidia XFree86 4.01
drivers, and everything seemed to go smoothly. But now when I try to run an
OpenGL app, the OpenGL is drawn on the wrong part of the screen.
I have one program I wrote for a class that opens a window using GLUT and
draws to it. When I run that program, the window opens on the right half of
my screen, but the actual drawing is done on the left half, not in that
window. And when I try running Quake 3, the drawing is all done in the lower
left of the screen (my screen size stays at 1024x768 even though I have it
set in Quake 3 to 800x600, but Quake 3 just doesn't fill the screen).
Anyone have any ideas about this? I'm running a fairly clean install of
Redhat 7 with XFree86 4.01 and version 0.95 of the NVidia drivers, and I'm
using a Diamond TNT2 card on a BX motherboard.
Thanks,
Eddie
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From: "Richard Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SB Live 1024 and Redhat 6.1
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:41:58 +0100
Hi all,
I'm a linux newbie and am having trouble with my sb live 1024 PCI.
I've installed it in the machine and the redhat pnp autodetect has come
up and identified it as a SB live, but then says it doesn't support the
card. I think it has partially installed the card correctly as it doesn't
identify the card as new each time the machine reboots but I get no
sound. I've checked the sound HOWTO but this is written in martian for a
newbie like me!
Can anyone help ??
Thanks
Richard
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From: Giuseppi Tubiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: IPChains and Cable Modems - Fequently loosing connectivity to the Internet
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 14:07:12 -0500
Kevin,
You never mention if the IP address changes as you restart the Cable
Modem.
Based purely on the symptom data, it sounds like both of you are
loosing IP address @home. I'm not sure how to do this yet on Linux,
but check the address generated after modem reboot, likely it's a new
number.
If the number's changed, then you'll have to check your DCHP lease
renewal times.
Another test for this would be to release and renew your RH DCHP card
address [don't know how yet, but sure linux will do this like winsux
does.]
Cable modems will change addresses on a whim [or latest screw-up
@home], you'll need to adjust for constantly changing IP address.
hope this helps!
Sam Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is my spam filter.
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 07:36:58 GMT, "Kevin Safford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>"Vinson Armstead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:K65G5.48264$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> This is a strange problem...Any suggestions or advice would be greatly
>> appreciated
>>
>> I have been having a problem with keeping my cable modem connection active
>> when using my RH (first 6.2 now 7.0) server as a Firewall (running
>IPChains
>> 1.3.9-17)
>>
>
>I ran across your description while searching for a possible
>explanation to a very similar problem. I recently made an old
>486 into a linux firewall/router for my cable modem connection (I am on
>@home). I have been having the exact same problem as you describe.
>
>I am running Mandrake 7.0 with 2 ne2000 ISA cards. The symptom I have is,
>after using the browser on my PC (par t of my internal network), the
>connection seems to "hang". I can find no usage pattern that causes this to
>happen or accelerates the problem, other than it occurs when I am actively
>browsing (as opposed to it happening when the machines are sitting
>idle.)Here's what I have discovered so far when the connection hangs:
>
>1) I cannot ping to the outside world from either my linux box or my PC.
>
>2) I can ping both the internal (192.168.1.1) and external address from both
>the linux and PC.
>
>3) If I try to telnet (or ftp) from my PC into my linux box, I make the
>connection (and see the connection in the syslog), but I do not get the
>login prompt (i.e., nothing is sent back to the PC). (I find this very,
>very strange and kind of annoying, since I have to go find a keyboard to
>connect to the linux box again.)
>
>4) Restarting the network will not help: the DHCP request from my linux box
>times out. Rebooting the linux box does not help. Same problem. The ONLY
>way to get back is to unplug my cable modem (I have an RCA modem) and plug
>it back in (simply turning it on and off with the power switch doesn't help;
>I believe that unplugging this particular modem causes it to reinitialize
>itself.)
>
>I called ATT support this morning, and they claim that my cable modem itself
>is pingable and that the problem is something with my machine. And, since
>they don't support linux, I'm on my own. =)
>
>I have searched through the various HOWTOs and FAQs looking for anything
>related to this and have been unsucessful. I have played with my IPCHAINS
>commands to see if they were the problem. Nothing I can think of has helped
>solve the problem.
>
>And, like you describe, my connection worked fine for a long time when the
>modem directly connected to my PC.
>
>Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I've gotten quite tired of
>unplugging my cable modem and restarting my network.
>
>Kevin
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.arch.embedded
From: Wolfgang Denk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Minimal embedded linux?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 16:00:21 GMT
"War" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Debian would probably be the best one to shrink.
>Russ.Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> I'm more interested in methods for making a small linux
>> from a standard distribution. It might not be difficult,
When you build tightly embedded systems, it's IMHO not really
efficient to start with any standard distribution and try to "shrink"
it. Instead, you start with the naked linux kernel and add only the
services you need.
You want to run a web server, just a web server? So what do you need?
Right, a web server - no init process, no login, no startup scripts,
nothing except the web server, the libraries it needs to run (if you
don't link it statically in this case), and the web pages it is going
to serve.
Using this method, on a PowerPC I can build a web server demo with
(compressed) kernel image of 324774 bytes, and a (compressed) ramdisk
image of 674939 bytes. This fits easily in a 1 MB flash chip (it even
leaves enough room for a small boot monitor). Um, and this contains a
payload of 566 kB web pages...
[See http://www.denx.de/embedded-ppc-en.html for images of the demo
system hardware.]
IMO, it does not really matter which distribution you use as a
starting base - either you know what you need, then you build your
system carefully bottom up, or you will waste memory because you
include stuff you don't really need.
Wolfgang Denk
--
Software Engineering: Embedded and Realtime Systems, Embedded Linux
Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87 Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88 Web: www.denx.de
One difference between a man and a machine is that a machine is quiet
when well oiled.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A new directory hierarchy standard - need opinions
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:21:40 -0000
In comp.os.linux.development.system Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Convention. /opt is broken down per-package. If you aren't referencing
| the /opt/{package} directories directly, you usually make a link from
| /usr/{bin|lib|...} ( or /usr/local/{bin|lib|...} to the appropriate files
| under /opt.
|
| Frankly I find /opt a kludge, but it's a reasonable solution when
| dealing with packages that like to own their entire directory tree
| and don't co-exist well in the same directories as other packages.
When a package has more than a few executeables, or any libraries or
data it needs to access, I prefer having the whole package "encapsulated"
where I can see where it is, how much space it all takes, remove it all
if I want, or tarball it to another machine to run it there.
The disadvantage is that a package may need to have some files shared
between many machines and some files separate per machine. Perhaps
the best solution would be /usr/opt and /var/opt. Those can either or
both be mounted as distinct filesystems as desired.
|> 3) Another /opt/ issue... /opt/ is described in section 3.8 of the
|> current FHS as a place for "add-on application software
|> packages". I interpret "add-on" to mean "not essential to system
|> operation". In light of this, why do we have /opt/ , instead of
|> /usr/opt/ and /usr/local/opt/ ?
|
| Because either would be exactly equivalent to /opt?
Maybe. See above for /var/opt. But I'll extrapolate into /usr/local/opt.
I usually leave /usr mounted read-only and /usr/local mounted writeable.
The latter is where I make frequent changes, such as packages I am doing
on my own. I would prefer to put a vendor or community supported package
in /usr/opt and put a package I'm testing or developing in /usr/local/opt.
Then I would use /var/opt and /var/local/opt accordingly (probably one
filesystem, but it keeps patterns consistent).
--
| Phil Howard - KA9WGN | My current websites: linuxhomepage.com, ham.org
| phil (at) ipal.net +----------------------------------------------------
| Dallas - Texas - USA | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.applixware
Subject: Where do "Programs" go?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:30:37 GMT
When you install programs on Linux RH 6.2 where do they go? I mean, if I
were installing a program on Windows it would install to "C:\Programs
Files\(ProgramFolder". Where do they go on Linux? I am setting up my first
Linux system and I want to make sure I leave enough room a the "Right"
partition for installing my programs. Do they go to the /usr partition?
Thanks for your help.
Lamar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A new directory hierarchy standard - need opinions
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:37:10 -0000
In comp.os.linux.development.system Equinox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Therefore,
|
| 1) /opt/ would be for large, complex packages that were required by
| the system (not too many of these, if any at all -- hence my earlier
| language suggesting that perhaps /opt/ shouldn't exist). This also
| raises the question, would "opt" be a fitting name for this directory?
|
| 2) /usr/opt/ would be for large, complex, non-vital packages that were
| provided by the maintainers of the distribution.
|
| 3) /usr/local/opt/ would house large, complex packages added by the
| local sysadmin.
That makes a lot of sense, but I need yet another. Under the above
description I would want to mount /usr/local/opt/ read-only, yet I
want one I can leave openly writeable (which I have been doing with
/usr/local so far).
As long as packages are stored in {prefix}/opt/{packagename}/ then
I see no real problem in intermingling what is installed from the
distribution and what is installed later either from the distribution
CD, from the distribution vendor's web/ftp site, or packages from
entirely different vendors. As long as there is no name collision,
I don't see the problem with having multiple vendors in /usr/opt.
One aspect of this to consider is that distributions do vary and
what may be only obtained from a separate vendor for one distribution
may be included in another. Some distributions are just mediums for
other vendors, anyway, and as a sysadmin, I pick and choose all along.
Consider also that you may upgrade a package by installing a whole new
version. The original may be in the distribution, but you get the new
one directly from the original vendor.
To me the important distinction between /usr/opt and /usr/local/opt
is the way I can manage those spaces, such as mounting /usr/opt in
read-only mode, and mounting /usr/local/opt in no-atime mode. I'm
all cozy with installing packages of my choosing from a mix of vendors
into /usr/opt. That feeling isn't there for the likes of /usr/bin.
To me, /usr/opt should be more for install it and forget it. Then
I would be working with what is in /usr/local/opt on a more regular
basis. It would make sense for 4 distinct areas, but we only have 3
names at present to work with, and adding a 4th would be troublesome.
| True. Most of X's problems lie in the scrambled internal structure of
| the package. But it still needs to be located in something like an
| opt/ directory. It just seems like having the X11R6 directory
| directly under /usr/ is messy.
I would agree. Package name space should not be mingled with system
functionality name space, within /usr. So /usr/opt is a functionality
and within it are package names (preferrably package-version and have
package -> package-version for the active version).
--
| Phil Howard - KA9WGN | My current websites: linuxhomepage.com, ham.org
| phil (at) ipal.net +----------------------------------------------------
| Dallas - Texas - USA | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bryan Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Warning: Setting Locale Failed
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 15:40:59 -0400
I'm trying to get asDrinks to work on my system. When I try to run the
script, I get the following message:
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = "en",
LC_ALL = "en",
LANG = "en"
are supported and installed on your system.
This doesn't seem to be well documented. Can anyone tell me how to
change these settings, or at least where to look for info?
Thanks much,
Bryan Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Loren Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NVidia Vanta driver
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:38:58 +1300
The vanta uses a TNT chip, so you can still use the drivers at the url I gave
you, even though the vanta is not explicitly mentioned.
http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf/Linux.html
Loren
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Mick wrote:
>Thanks for help. But the nvidia web site says that the 0.9-5 ver is for
>GeForce, and looking under the TNT2 nVidia I can only find the 0.9-2 ver.
>Thanks - I shall go to the url you indicated...
>
>Loren Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, Mick wrote:
>> >I downloaded NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-2.i386.rpm and ran rpm -Uvh <above file>
>and
>> >it install ok but I see no difference - also, it appears that the drivers
>> >are for RH6.1 - will it cause problems on a RH6.2 system? According to
>the
>> >readme at nvidia.com after installing the nvidiaconfig should run
>> >automatically - but it did not. There are a few "driver files" at
>nvidia's
>> >site, what files should I really need?
>>
>> Firstly, you should install the latest package which is
>NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-5.
>> Then you also need to install NVIDIA_GLX-0.9-5, which replaces some
>XFree86
>> files. You also need to change your /etc/X11/xf86config file. And I think
>> you must upgrade to xfree86-4.0.1 also. All the documentation is here
>> http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf/Linux.html
>>
>> After you have done everything correctly you will see a *huge* difference
>in
>> performance, but not with a plain old X session. Try running some 3D
>software
>> to see the difference. The performance boost is worth the effort.
>>
>> Loren
>>
>>
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 15:43:25 -0400
From: Zhihui Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: change IP address with ifconfig
It seems to me that the following command
# ifconfig eth0 address x.x.x.x
does not change the address of my machine on RedHat 6.2. What is the
problem? Later I manually modified file
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and reboot. It works. But there
should be easy way and ifconfig should work.
Thanks for your help.
-Zhihui
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From: Loren Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VMware on Linux
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:49:48 +1300
You *must* install windows on vmware's virtual machine from scratch. This means
formating it's virtual disk, everything ! You can *not* use vmware to run a "real"
installation
of windows.
Loren
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, Andrey Shipsha wrote:
>Hello,
>
>First I appologise if this message is beyond the scope of this
>newsgroup.
>
>I'd like to give a try to VMware because I need to run a few Win
>applications from Linux. I have downloaded the evaluation copy of VMware
>for Linux but I can't figure out how to get Windows 98 started...
>
>I have a dual drive and dual system machine. Win98 is installed on
>/dev/hda. Linux happily lives on /dev/hdb. I ran through the config
>wizard. After that I powered on the Virtual machine. I could see the
>start screen with RAM and hardware checking but then VMware reported
>"Operating systen not found"... What else I have to do to start Win98
>using Vmware?
>
>Any hints would be appreciated.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Andrey.
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From: "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Where do "Programs" go?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:57:11 +0200
Common locations are /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin,
/usr/local/sbin. This is were the executables live. Shared libraries (dll's,
in windows terms) usually go in /lib or /usr/lib. You might want to read the
Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (fhs) for more information about which files
should go in which directories. Check it out at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
"Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:xBnG5.322091$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> When you install programs on Linux RH 6.2 where do they go? I mean, if I
> were installing a program on Windows it would install to "C:\Programs
> Files\(ProgramFolder". Where do they go on Linux? I am setting up my
first
> Linux system and I want to make sure I leave enough room a the "Right"
> partition for installing my programs. Do they go to the /usr partition?
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Lamar
>
>
>
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From: "Thomas Glen Smith\(Smitty\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 7.0, suexec and sympa not working
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 14:58:22 -0500
I just installed RedHat 7.0 on a system that had RedHat 6.1 and Sympa 2.7.3
installed. Before the upgrade, I was successfully using suexec to invoke
~sympa/wwsympa.cgi, but now it fails because it's not getting the id/gid of
sympa/sympa any longer. I think suexec isn't working, but there's no longer
a /var/log/suexec_log, as there was in RH 6.1. Anybody know why suexec_log
no longer exists in RH 7? It used to tell you exactly why suexec wouldn't
do su for a given script, e.g. permissions wrong on the public_html
directory, etc.
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