Linux-Setup Digest #908, Volume #19              Thu, 26 Oct 00 13:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  X server in SuSE7.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Moving /usr From One Partition To Another (Robert Kiesling)
  Re: SCSI help needed, please ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  How to reclaim disk partitions from other OS? (bonminh lam)
  slackware ad multiple net devices (Paolo Meriggi)
  Re: redhat 7 probs netcfg and compiling kernel (Scott Nolde)
  Re: LILO: A contribution for diagnostic purposes. (Scott Nolde)
  Re: X display slightly larger than screen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Redhat 7.0 kernel compilation problems with PIII coppermine (Scott Nolde)
  Iomega Zip ("Raymond")
  Linux System Time - NEWBIE ("A.J. Simpkin")
  Apache and the browser cache (Mark Guzzo)
  Re: Help RH 7.0 hanging on Enabling Swap during boot (Ward)
  vpop3d over a single IP? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How to reclaim disk partitions from other OS? ("Bill Shirley")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X server in SuSE7.0
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:00:27 GMT

I installed SuSE 7.0 on an AMD K6II + SiS530 video card + 128M RAM CDRW
+ Hauppauge + PCTEL winmodem (that works perfectly with drivers I
downloaded).

My probl. is that I can open an X session only as root. As simple user
I'm told by a message to use Xwrapper, but I obtain a grey screen with a
white cross, and I have to exit with a kill.
In /etc/skeleton there is a file called .serverrc_secure (or similar)
that says: move this file from here if you want to avoid users to start
an X session. As it is there I think this should be ok.

Is it a problem of Xwrapper?

Another problem (maybe related) is that kwintv that came with the
distrib. works, but xwintv (installed later from a download), after it
opens correctly, it crashes, giving the message:
could'n find per display information.

Can anybody tell me what's happening?

Thanks, Leo


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Subject: Re: Moving /usr From One Partition To Another
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:30:33 GMT

Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > > Okay, Then I'll give you a step by step help: (Robert explained the
> > > same, but I'll split it up in steps for you)
> > >
> > > su - root
> > > mkdir /new_usr
> > > cp -a /usr/* /new_usr
> > > umount /usr
> > > rmdir /usr
> > > mv /new_usr /usr
> > 
> > I don't *think* that /usr being a mount point should affect the
> > ability to rename it, but I haven't tried anything like this,
> > specifically, for quite some time.  If that _does_ turn out to be the
> > case, it might be better to 'umount /usr' before renaming ('mv'ing)
> > the /new-usr-system to /usr.
> 
> I'm not sure either, wouldn't try it though (mtab is no longer correct)
> besides the old /usr is no longer needed anyway, just umount it and add
> the 
> space to / does sound good to me.

That's the reason for trying to change to the replacement /usr using
one command line, as well as any processes that depend on the
existence of /usr.  (The procedure is being performed on a fully
loaded system.)  Not to mention that I wouldn't care to assume that mv
itself doesn't use dynamic libs in /usr/lib.  But yeah, the former
/usr partition could then be re-used.

> > > *now edit fstab: comment out the line with /dev/hdc7
> > 
> > Meaning, place a '#' at the beginning of the line using a text editor.
> > I doubt that's even critical with this partition setup: only the one
> > partition being mounted. But, as a rule, it should definitely be done
> > before the next reboot.
> 
> Not critical right away, but it's bound to be forgotten if it's not
> being done in the same step.

Right.  Item 7) on your list.

-- 
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/toc.html  http://www.mainmatter.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SCSI help needed, please
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:25:11 GMT

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:48:25 -0500, "Jorge Alvarez"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>For the first time, I need to install Linux using a SCSI hard drive and
>controller on a Pentium III based server. I have installed Linux on many IDE
>drives in the past, but never on SCSI hardware.
>
>I find the process intimidating. Is this an easy task? Could someone please
>recommend me a proven controller/hard drive SCSI combo solution that works
>great with Linux? I need a HD of 20GB approx. I would like the controller/HD
>to be recognized and configured by the Linux installation process, as I do
>not know how to install linux drivers by hand. Hope I am not asking too
>much! :-)

If you are going to install SuSE Linux, look at SuSE's
documentation/website.  Find out what hardware they are supporting.
There is no sense me recommending controller XYZ which works on my
Gleeble distribution of Linux when you decide to run the Bleech
distribution and it doesn't have precompiled support for XYZ.  (Note:
XYZ, Gleeble and Bleech are all imaginary names, they don't exist.)

In the SCSI world, the best price/performance on disks seems to come
at: 4.5, 9, 18, 36, ... GB  So, an 18 GB disk would probably be the
best bargain.  I've had good luck with Quantum at 5400, 7200 and
10,000 rpm (9GB drives), IBM and Fujitsu drives at 4.5 or smaller.  My
controller is a little old, an Intraserver running a Symbios 53C875
(not sure actual model, 53C8xx anyway) chipset.  Buslogic support
seems to be pretty good (I also have a small/cheap Buslogic controller
for scanner/zip), but it doesn't get much exercise.  With Adaptec
being such a huge manufacturer, they probably would be good choices.
Just don't choose the newest board on the block, it may only have
Windoze support at this time.

Gord

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From: bonminh lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to reclaim disk partitions from other OS?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:05:35 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am running RH6.1 on a box where I also installed NT a while ago. I am
going to ditch the NT partitions and want to reclaim the disk 
space. 

I ran fdisk to delete the 1st partition, and since fdisk took a core
dump on creating a new partition in the free space, I ran cfdisk to do
the job and which it seemed to accomplish.

My partition table is as follows:

[root@dec1997 /root]# fdisk -l /dev/hda

Festplatte /dev/hda: 255 K�pfe, 63 Sektoren, 523 Zylinder
Einheiten: Zylinder mit 16065 * 512 Bytes

    Ger�t boot.  Anfang      Ende    Bl�cke   Id  Dateisystemtyp
/dev/hda1             1       235   1887606   83  Linux   <== used to be
NTFS
/dev/hda2           236       523   2313360    5  Erweiterte
/dev/hda5           236       287    417658+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda6           288       313    208813+   6  FAT16
/dev/hda7           314       505   1542208+  83  Linux
/dev/hda8           506       516     88326   82  Linux Swap
[root@dec1997 /root]#           


The trouble is when I naively try to mount /dev/hda1, it took a "Bad
superblock" error message. Then I tried to "format" the new partition,
it also ended disastrously:

[root@dec1997 /root]# mkfs -t ext2 /dev/hda1
mke2fs 1.15, 18-Jul-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hda1: Invalid argument passed to ext2 library while setting up
superblock

I am basically stuck. I hope the experts out there may have a tip for
me. Thanks!

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From: Paolo Meriggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: slackware ad multiple net devices
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:03:25 +0200

Is there anybody who could give me some help in setting up a systems
with a builtin network card (Intel Express Pro 100) and another card on
a PCMCIA adapter?

Thank you very much in advance

Paolo Meriggi


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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: redhat 7 probs netcfg and compiling kernel
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:03:30 GMT

"Brian J. Rohan" wrote:
> 
>   I just upgraded to rh7 last night
> this morning I rebooted, and my system rebooted to my old kernel, but my
> soundnblaster, CD-ROMS (using scsi support for the CD_RW) and ethernet card
> did not work.  I then changed lilo to load the new kernel 2.2.16-22.  My
> sound card works, but my ethernet card does not  (I am running @HOME).  I
> tried to go to command line and typ netcfg, but got several error messages.
> I then tried getting to netconfig by going to footprint, programs, system,
> and network configuration, but nothing happened.  I then went to
> /usr/src/linux, typed make xconfig, and reset the block devices, and SCSI
> sections to make my CD_RW appear as a SCSI, that worked well, I exited, then
> tried to make the kernel by typing: make dep clean bzlilo modules
> modules_install  but after about 30 seconds received error messages (which I
> did not write down :-()   Can anyone help??
> 
> Brian

Did you rerun lilo?

- Scott
-- 
Never do Windows again with  |  Scott M. Nolde
Linux!  No streaks, haze or  |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
glaze!                       |  
12:01pm up 1 day, 18:20, 4 users, load average: 1.01, 1.03, 1.00

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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO: A contribution for diagnostic purposes.
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:07:16 GMT

Michael Miyabara-McCaskey wrote:
> 
> So how/why did lilo and/or RH 7.0 decide that the disk should be in LBA
> mode? No idea... But add it as one more thing to check.
> 
> -Michael Miyabara-McCaskey

I've had to run my lilo in linear mode for a while... and then I
installed FreeBSD in a partition pretty far away from the 1024th
cylinder and had to change to lba32.

BTW - I'm running RH7.0 with updates and more updates and more
updates....

- Scott

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Never do Windows again with  |  Scott M. Nolde
Linux!  No streaks, haze or  |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
glaze!                       |  
12:05pm up 1 day, 18:24, 4 users, load average: 1.01, 1.03, 1.00

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X display slightly larger than screen
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:13:11 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:05:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >However, when I use something like xv that opens windows on the
screen,
> >the title bar of the windows is often above the top of the display
area
> >and off the screen.  So I can't simply grab the title bar to move the
> >window around (I need to press the ALT key while grabbing the window
to
> >move it).  On my other machine with the 1280x1024 display, xv always
> >put the windows so the title bar is right at the top of the display,
or
> >somewhere lower on the screen, but never off the screen.
>
> I think you have to adjust your monitor hardware settings for that
> resolution. There should be some controls at the monitor to adjust
screen
> size, position and more.

Thanks for the answer, but that's not the problem.  I must not have
explained it clearly, because there are two replies, but neither
addresses the problem.  As far as adjusting the display size with the
monitor hardware settings, the display doesn't extend beyond the limits
of the monitor screen.  There is black around the display on all
sides.  I made the display even a bit smaller just to make sure, but
that's not the problem.

The problem is that some windows are displaying out of the desktop
area.  I have to grab them with the cursor by holding the ALT key,
because the title bar of window is off the screen.  So how do you make
the desktop smaller?  Is it a virtual desktop I'm talking about?  I
don't even know...


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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.0 kernel compilation problems with PIII coppermine
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:12:53 GMT

Andrzej Nowak wrote:
> 
> I set up Redhat Linux 7.0 (guiness) on a PIII coppermine 650MHz
> machine. However it seems impossible to compile ANY kernel version
> on it (I tried 2.2.16 2.2.17 2.2.16-22 2.2.14).
> Each time I change anything in the kernel configuration I get different
> errors and warnings (lots of them) on different files,
> looking just like there was a lot of bugs in the kernel code.
> These kernels compile without problems on a PII233. Is this a common
> problem, and how should I start dealing with it?
> I do the compilation the 'usual' way: make menuconfig
> make dep, make bzImage, make module, make modules install
> I also tried make clean between make dep and make bzImage.
> still nothing.
> 
>         +e [epsilon]

I was able to compile RedHat's 2.2.16-22 kernel without any problems.
make mrproper
make menuconfig
make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install
cp boot/arch/i386/bzImage /boot/vlinuz-2.2.16-new
{edit lilo.conf}
lilo


And that's all it took.
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Never do Windows again with  |  Scott M. Nolde
Linux!  No streaks, haze or  |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Iomega Zip
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:22:38 +0800

I am planning to migrate my Dell PC (configured with Windows OS) to Linux.
However, I am a bit concern on some of the hardware whether they are
compatible or not.
In my PC, I have a Internal IOMegazip drive for 250Mb and an internal modem.
Will it work if I were to change to Linux? Would Linux be able to detect
internal devices? I am using a Dell Dimension V400.
Thanks in advance.




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From: "A.J. Simpkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux System Time - NEWBIE
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 02:27:39 -0700


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My hardware clock has the right time but the system time is off by
5hrs.  Any Advice?

Mandrake7.0 is the flavour du jour.  Pls. email response if
convenient.

--
"Even amidst fierce flames the golden lotus can be planted."
 Guess the tombstone and win a prize!
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From: Mark Guzzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache and the browser cache
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:35:19 -0500

I did not see a group for Apache Server questions, so please forgive me 
if I post this in the wrong group.


Is there a setting that will allow Apache to pump a web page to
the browser without letting the browser check it's internal cache?

If there is, can you please explain it.

Thanks :-)

Mark




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ward)
Subject: Re: Help RH 7.0 hanging on Enabling Swap during boot
Date: 26 Oct 2000 16:35:36 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ward) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>I installed RH 7.0 from cd.
>It hangs when it gets to the enabling swap line during the
>boot. Installed RH 7.0 again with same result.
>
>Installed 6.2 from cd and it worked fine.
>Used 7.0 cd to upgrade again it worked fine. (1 boot)
>Downloaded the updates from updates.redhat.com/7.0/i386
>used rpm -Fvh to update.
>Reboot following this it hangs at the enabling swap line.
>
>At this point I am going to install 6.2 then upgrade.  I will
>do a number of reboots to check the stability.
>
>Then I will apply each of the updates one at a time with a 
>reboot after each one to see if I can id the problem.
>
>Of course it would be much simpler (and quicker...<G>) if 
>someone has already found a solution to this problem...
>
>BTW if it's any help the laptop I am using is a Trogon
>Computers Qualitas Q.24 series.  It has a PII 333, IDE 10 gig
>hd, dvd cdrom, 8M Rage LT Pro video, mpeg card (for dvd) with
>256 M mem.  The specs are at: 
>http://www.trogoncomputer.com/products/qualitas/q24plus/specif
>ic ation.html
>
>Ward
>


After the upgrade to 7.0 it booted fine.  After logging in as 
root and running pump to check network connectivity I rebooted.

It locked up once again at the enabling swap line.

Ward

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Ward Goodwin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: vpop3d over a single IP?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:38:50 -0500

I have been doing virtual domains w/ seperate IP's on a single RedHat
6.2 box and using vpop3d for virtual emails (virtual pop3 accounts).
And things have been working fine.

Now, my IP space (16 total) is getting crowded so I started to move some
virtual domains over to a single IP.  Virtual web and ftp have no
problem with that, but I couldn't get virtual email to work.  I read
some online articles and most of them state that vpop3d only works with
different IP's.  Is there a convenient work-around other than rewriting
the vpop3d wrapper?  Or any alternative to vpop3d?

Thanks in advance.



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From: "Bill Shirley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to reclaim disk partitions from other OS?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:47:46 -0400

Don't you have a mke2fs?  Try man mke2fs.

Bill

"bonminh lam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am running RH6.1 on a box where I also installed NT a while ago. I am
> going to ditch the NT partitions and want to reclaim the disk
> space.
>
> I ran fdisk to delete the 1st partition, and since fdisk took a core
> dump on creating a new partition in the free space, I ran cfdisk to do
> the job and which it seemed to accomplish.
>
> My partition table is as follows:
>
> [root@dec1997 /root]# fdisk -l /dev/hda
>
> Festplatte /dev/hda: 255 K�pfe, 63 Sektoren, 523 Zylinder
> Einheiten: Zylinder mit 16065 * 512 Bytes
>
>     Ger�t boot.  Anfang      Ende    Bl�cke   Id  Dateisystemtyp
> /dev/hda1             1       235   1887606   83  Linux   <== used to be
> NTFS
> /dev/hda2           236       523   2313360    5  Erweiterte
> /dev/hda5           236       287    417658+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/hda6           288       313    208813+   6  FAT16
> /dev/hda7           314       505   1542208+  83  Linux
> /dev/hda8           506       516     88326   82  Linux Swap
> [root@dec1997 /root]#
>
>
> The trouble is when I naively try to mount /dev/hda1, it took a "Bad
> superblock" error message. Then I tried to "format" the new partition,
> it also ended disastrously:
>
> [root@dec1997 /root]# mkfs -t ext2 /dev/hda1
> mke2fs 1.15, 18-Jul-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
> /dev/hda1: Invalid argument passed to ext2 library while setting up
> superblock
>
> I am basically stuck. I hope the experts out there may have a tip for
> me. Thanks!
>
> --
> To reply to me via email, please substitute the text no_spam
> with mailbox in the return address.
>



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