Linux-Setup Digest #927, Volume #19              Sun, 29 Oct 00 05:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Newbie question: broken ppp ("bluster")
  Re: RPM cannot upgrade my kernel - why??? (Lester Mommsen)
  Re: boot partition too big ("bluster")
  Re: Going to try Linux ("Buzz")
  Re: boot partition too big ("Robert Q. Warshawsky")
  Re: linux necessary? ("Buzz")
  a brave new world ("Paul & Cheryl Schofield")
  Re: dhcp from Roadrunner CAble (Dave Brown)
  Re: I/O address of PCMCIA Ethernet Card (Dave Brown)
  how to setup sendmail load-balancing and fault-tolerance? ("Tin")
  Users unable to shutdown - Help! (CompSciMaj007)
  Windowmaker crashing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Header Rewrite for qmail ?? (" �j��")
  Re: uninstalling... (muzh)
  RH 7 to RH6.2 - weird NIS error (The Archimage)
  Re: Users unable to shutdown - Help! ("MT")
  Re: Using a tape drive (James Moe)
  Re: boot partition too big (Markus Kossmann)
  Re: RH 7 to RH6.2 - weird NIS error (Lunglet)
  Re: help with configuring linux mail server (Robert Kiesling)
  Setting the system date (JNN)
  Re: 2nd Hard Drive (Robert Kiesling)

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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie question: broken ppp
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:11:16 -0400

Well put, Though his setup used the [Dialer Modem] tag
rather than [Dialer Defaults].
I was hoping someone with wvdial experience would reply :)
Bluster

MaryP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> (replying to previous helper re wvdial)
> >
> > Thanks for the help, and I did foind the script:
> >
> > [Dialer Defaults]
> > Modem = /dev/ttyS0
> > Baud = 115200
> > Init1 = ATZ
> > Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 S11=55 +FCLASS=0
> >
> > [zipworld]
> > Phone Number = 4254-6666
> > Login Name = edwin
> > Password = <my password>
> > Init3 = ATX4
> > Baud = 115200
> > Stupid Mode = no
> > Auto Redial = no
> > New PPPD = no
> > Dial Command = ATDT
> > Init4 = ATM1L2
> >
> > The error messages remain the same!
>
> Under Dialer Defaults, you have to put a default phone number
> username and password. Make Dialer Defaults a
> complete configuration for the first
> place you want to dial --- don't leave out the phone number,
> username, or password as you have done here.
>
> When you invoke wvdial at the command line with no
> arguments, that "Dialer Default" place will be the place it
> dials up for you.
>
> Then if you
> want to create a second account, put their phone number
> username and password (and any other things that have to
> be different from the first account) in a second section of the
> config file, which overrides
> anything you put in Dialer Defaults for the first account.
>
> You will be able to invoke that part using a command'line
> argument when you want to connect to the second place
> instead of the first one.
>
> Any parameters that will be the same for both accounts,
> you don't have to repeat in that second account's
> configuration section. Any parameters that will change,
> list them so they override the ones in the original section.
>
> man wvdial actually explains this - I tried to put it
> in different words here for you, but if you can't see
> what I mean look at the man page again.
>
> MP



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From: Lester Mommsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM cannot upgrade my kernel - why???
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 05:14:19 GMT

I seemed to remember seeing somewhere where you have to upgrade the
kernal in order, ie 2.2.14 to 2.2.15, 2.2.16 etc.       ???
Les Mommsen
Marysville, WA

Hal Burgiss wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 02:35:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I am running Linux RedHat 6.2, kernel-2.2.14-5.0.
> >I downloaded from the errata web page the latest kernel (2.2.16-3).
> >But when I try to upgrade the kernel:
> >rpm -Fvh kernel-2.2.16-3.i386.rpm
> >
> >I receive:
> >error: kernel-2.2.16-3.i386.rpm cannot be installed.
> >
> >That's it. It doesn't even say WHY it cannot be installed.
> >
> >Can anyone help me solve the mystery? What am I doing wrong?
>
> Use 'rpm -i' for kernels! Also, '-vv' might give you better messages.
>
> --
> Hal B
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --


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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot partition too big
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:21:54 -0400

Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From what I understand, the /boot partition can be no larger than 16
> MEGABYTES.

[root@zephyr]# df
Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2              3619352   1303112   2132384  38% /
/dev/hda1                19487      2482     15999  13% /boot
/dev/hdd                656134    656134         0 100% /mnt/cdrom
[root@zephyr]#

???




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From: "Buzz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Going to try Linux
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:54:29 -0400

Using Partition Magic, can't you just resize your C:\  and just leave
FreeSpace.
It automatically installs in the Freespace.

But then could there be an error when using PM  in Windows ?  ie.  "linux
partion extending beyond physical end." (1026)

Dog Meat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8tee7m$ftj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > for example if your disk has just a c: drive you will need to also
> create a
> > D: drive which will be reserved for linux (and the D designation
> wiped out)
>
> So, it will install itself on the D: drive, then remove the "D:" so I
> can't access it by way of typing "D:" [for instance]??????
>
> > if you use dos fdisk to do it...it will destroy all your data... that
> is why
> > i suggested partition magic.
> >
> > once you get to the linux install...it will further partition...
> > but be sure you do not wipe out your windows C: partition.
>
> How big should the Linux partition (D: drive) be? Is 400 or 500 megs
> big enough?  Will it take only 100 megs?  Do I need to free up more
> than the 1 gig I have left and make it a gig?
>
> Sorry for the stupid, seemingly repetitive questions, Philo, but I'm
> just trying to get a clear understanding of what's needed.  Linux is a
> little different animal than WinDUHs/DOS - thank God!
>
> -- DM
> ************************
> *   NAHC Life Member   *
> ************************
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: "Robert Q. Warshawsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot partition too big
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 05:53:09 GMT

I dunno, mine is 50 megs.

-S

Mike wrote:

> From what I understand, the /boot partition can be no larger than 16
> MEGABYTES.
>


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From: "Buzz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux necessary?
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:06:22 -0500

Right on !

Bob Plested <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The mailing list suddenly ballooned. Hmm. I guess my answer would depend
> on how you got those extra email addresses :)
>
> Bob
>
> Sophia93 wrote:
>
> > Hey all-
> >
> > I'm working at a small, Windows-based company which is generating a
> > rapidly-growing mailing list.  Up until now, I've been getting by on
> > Eudora but our list recently ballooned to 45,000 e-mail addresses.
> > I've researched mailing list managers and I've found that most of them
> > (Majordomo, ListServ) run best on a Linux or Unix OS.  We don't have
> > the budget to hire a professional mailing list service...some of them
> > can run $500 a month.  Majordomo is shareware, so that's probably my
> > pick of the moment.
> >
> > I know that installing Linux can be a daunting task, but I'm prepared
> > to get through it if it's the only platform I can operate my mailing
> > list on.  Do you think it's worth the trouble?  Do any of you see any
> > other way around it?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > -Sophia
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>



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From: "Paul & Cheryl Schofield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: a brave new world
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 06:53:21 GMT

We are currently developing a business plan for a home based business. The
plan involves hosting graphical chat servers on a linux system.

Our question is of bandwidth. Initally, we expect to have approxamately 5 gb
of uploads to the server from customers and as much as 20 gb downloaded from
the internet per month.

Could anyone tell us the cost associated with this amount of bandwidth using
a standard cable modem?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: dhcp from Roadrunner CAble
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Oct 2000 01:57:15 -0500

In article <FFsK5.112$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Heath Ivie wrote:
>help,
> i cant get my linux to get my ip info from the San Diego Roadrunner cable
>service and they dont support linux.  I ahve tried all of the linux .com
>crap and it doesnt work

It would appear from your post that you have some kind of RR running.
On a different computer maybe?  Or perhaps dual booting machine.

If you've already logged into RR, (and if San Diego is like the Austin 
setup), you should be able to get an IP address with DHCP.  But in 
Austin, if there's been another machine attached to the "cable modem", 
you have to power down the modem for a minute or so, so that the 
server at the other end "loses" the MAC address of the previous NIC.

(I also had trouble getting it to work on Win98.  And when I did, the 
digital cable set-top box quit working... apparently the registration 
at the cable office was messed up.)
-- 
Dave Brown  Austin, TX

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: I/O address of PCMCIA Ethernet Card
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Oct 2000 01:06:14 -0600

In article <8tf02p$s8i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have a new PCMCIA ethernet card. Everything about the card and
>network installation seems fine, except identifying the card.
>
>The probe at the end of my "netconfig" on Slackware7 does not find it.
>
>When the card is inserted or "crdctl insert" is run, the beeps are HIGH
>then LOW. (From the HOWTO, this indicates an inidentified card).
>
>On boot I get: "eth0 - unknown interface no such device"
>...

I suspect the card you have is not supported.  (You didn't mention the 
brand.) 

Depending on your startup scripts, network initialization may be 
called prior to pc card services being started, and you'll see a 
network startup failure message.  Then when the card-services module 
is loaded, you hear the beeps, and if your card is supported, the 
card-services process will restart the network initialization.  




-- 
Dave Brown  Austin, TX

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From: "Tin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: how to setup sendmail load-balancing and fault-tolerance?
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:11:55 +0800

how to setup sendmail load-balancing and fault-tolerance?


--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CompSciMaj007)
Subject: Users unable to shutdown - Help!
Date: 29 Oct 2000 07:34:29 GMT


   OK. I (in all my Lamer brilliance) managed to remove the
ability of users to shutdown the system. They can logout,
but now only Root can perform a shutdown.
   Now whenever I attempt to shutdown from any user
account, I get the error message:

   bash: shutdown: command not found

   I was juggling files around last night after an install, and
was switching between the /opt and the /usr/local partitions.
   The "shutdown" command in /sbin still gives everyone
execuable permission.   Help!

-Mark Thompson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Windowmaker crashing
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 07:35:23 GMT

Hi,

I installed a clean RH7 last week, and installed the latest version of
Windowmaker. FOllowed to instruction, installed libProp, &c.

On startup wmaker crashes with a "crashing while trying to fix
post-crash cleanup". I have no idea where to look to solve this, any
ideas?

It happens after the mouse is added as an XINPUT device (Genius
netmouse, PS/2), could that have something to do with it?

TIA,
-peter


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: " �j��" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Header Rewrite for qmail ??
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:21:44 +0800

Hi All,

   How can I set my qmail , so that the " Received : from studio.com.hk
([202.36.196.230]) "
won't displayed at each email's header ??

  BTW, What is the platform InterMail run on ? coz I saw a lot of ISP is
using this MTA.

Rgds,
Simon
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,hk.comp.os.linux,it.comp.linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: uninstalling...
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:27:23 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Use 'make uninstall' if it exists.
If it doesn't have a look at the Makefile under the target install.  This 
will tell you what files were installed where (Usually more files than you 
thought possible!)

L�W�p�l wrote:

> Is there any way to uninstall a program after make install??
> 

-- 
Never trust a man in a suit

cll


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From: The Archimage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat,redhat.general,redhat.networking.general
Subject: RH 7 to RH6.2 - weird NIS error
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 03:05:13 -0600

Howdy -

I have a Red Hat 6.2 server (all current patches applied as of about 20
minutes ago) running NIS (ypserv, yppasswdd, and ypbind).

I have a Red Hat 7.0 host (all current patches applied as of about 10
minutes ago) running as an NIS client (ypbind only).

When I log in as a regular user on the RH 7.0 box, all is fine.  When I
log in as or su to root, I get the following error:

YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: Domain not bound

However, if I log out as root and then log in as a regular user, NIS is
actually working just fine.  It seems to be some sort of informational
message, everything seems to work fine, but it kind of bugs me.

No log file entries at all on the server or the client.

Any ideas what is up with that error?

Thanks
The Archimage

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From: "MT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Users unable to shutdown - Help!
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 10:49:18 +0200


CompSciMaj007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>    OK. I (in all my Lamer brilliance) managed to remove the
> ability of users to shutdown the system. They can logout,
> but now only Root can perform a shutdown.
>    Now whenever I attempt to shutdown from any user
> account, I get the error message:
>
>    bash: shutdown: command not found

jep, i use Mandrake 7.0 and i get the same error message, as an user, try:
su -c /sbin/halt
or
su -c /sbin/reboot

                                                                tammx

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>
>    I was juggling files around last night after an install, and
> was switching between the /opt and the /usr/local partitions.
>    The "shutdown" command in /sbin still gives everyone
> execuable permission.   Help!
>
> -Mark Thompson



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From: James Moe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Using a tape drive
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:08:30 GMT



John Thompson wrote:
> 
> 
> What type of drive and what kernel version are you using?  I had
> very similar difficulties with my HP-Colorado ATAPI tape drive
> and kernel v2.0.36.  Updating to the v2.2.x kernel series got it
> working just fine.
> 
    RedHat v6,2, Linux v2.2.14.
    Sony sdt5200 DDS2 DAT tape drive, scsi internal.

-- 
sma at sohnen-moe dot com

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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot partition too big
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:13:56 +0100

"G.Lambda" wrote:
> 
> Hello !  I want to install Red Hat 6.2  linux on my new PC.   I have a 40 Gb
> drive, from which 20 Gb are used for Windows Millenium (FAT32).

Well , your  Windows ME uses the first 20 GB of your disk. So all your
linux partitions are beginning over cylinder 1024. But the lilo version
coming with your RH-6.2 wants to be installed into a partition, which
ends beyond the 1024 cylinder limit.
There are two possible workarounds for that problem:

Provide a small partition at the begin of the disk for the Linux /boot
directory.

Or choose to make a bootfloppy for your linux installation, so there is
no need to install lilo on your disk. Once you linux is running , you
can replace lilo with the current version 21.6 , which doesn't have the
1024 cylinder limit any more. 



-- 
Markus Kossmann                                    
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lunglet)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat,redhat.general,redhat.networking.general
Subject: Re: RH 7 to RH6.2 - weird NIS error
Date: 29 Oct 2000 09:33:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

You might need to add the following to /etc/sysconfig/network:

NISDOMAIN=<nis domain name>

Check /usr/doc/initscripts-x.xx/* for more information.

Regards,

Albert

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Subject: Re: help with configuring linux mail server
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:41:50 GMT


Hung Ngoc Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi Everyone,
> I need help.......
> I have a small network that uses linux as both a 
> firewall and mail server in the same box.  This 
> linux serves as a gateway for my internal network
> (i.e. 172.16.1.0/24 network).  This linux box has
> an external ip address of 199.0.216.222 network. 
> Everything is working properly such as NAT, ipchains.
> Bottom, there is no problem as fas as connectivity 
> is concerns.  As of of now, there are NO restrictions
> on this box (i.e. default policy is ACCEPT all).


That's probably imprudent and unnecessary, especially
with ipchains, you should be able to selectively limit
access.  Unless you're using it for testing purposes.


> Over the weekend, I install mail server service on
> this linux box.  I also install POP2, POP3 and IMAP server
> on this box as well because I would like users on my
> private network to be able to receive and send mail 
> to users on the Internet. Here is my problem:
> 
> 1) I can send mail to users on the Internet as long as
> I am at the linux box (or telnet to it).  However, users
> on my private network  would like to use email as well.
> They use Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express 
> running on Microsoft Windows (I know, pitty me) to send
> and receive mails.  These users have valid account on the
> linux box.  There are no network connectivity problems.  
> I have been able to configure the Outlook
> Express to receive emails on the POP3 server on the linux
> box but I can not use SMTP to send mail to Internet users
> via Outlook Express.  How do I make this to work via 
> Outlook Express or even Microsoft Outlook?  Please help.  

I'm assuming that you have Sendmail installed on the Linux Machine.
It needs to be told it's a "smart host," that has a completely
different configuration than the default.  I don't have the Sendmail
information right here in front of me at this verrry moment....  But
the Sendmail FAQ at http://www.sendmail.org/ should be of use.  If it
isn't, please let me know and I could research this matter further.

-- 
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/toc.html  http://www.mainmatter.com/

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From: JNN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting the system date
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:22:27 -0700

I have a real newbie question I'm embarassed to ask, but I was
recently forced to switch to a dedicated server with Cobalt Linux
release 5.0 installed, so I'm having to learn this stuff as I go.

What's the exact command and format to change the system date?  I know
it's "date" followed by a certain format.  Any help is appreciated.
TIA.

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Subject: Re: 2nd Hard Drive
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:51:54 GMT


"Tim Collier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm experimenting with Linux.  I have it installed on a Pentium 200 with 2
> hard drives.  I can access all of the hard drive that Linux is installed on
> but how do I access and format the other hard drive?
> I've searched the documentation that came with SuSE Linux 7.0 and even
> bought a book on the OS but haven't come across this.

Are they IDE or SCSI drives?  If IDE, the first drive, already in use,
is /dev/hda, and the second drive is /dev/hdb.  The first partition on
the first drive is /dev/hda1, the second partition is /dev/hda2, and
so on.  If they're SCSI, then substiture sda for hda, etc....

All you need to do is repeat what the install did automagically,
fdisk /dev/hdb, /dev/sdb, or whatever to create the partitions 
you want, the use mke2fs to create the file systems on each
partition, then mount them to make sure everything works.  When
you're satisfied that the partitions and file systems are correct,
edit /etc/fstab with the device, mount point, and options for 
each new partition, then reboot, and they should appear as part
of the file system hierarchy.

Pretty basic, actually.  :)

-- 
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/toc.html  http://www.mainmatter.com/

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