Linux-Setup Digest #18, Volume #20 Sat, 11 Nov 00 19:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Redhat 7.0 and Cable Internet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
need help: linux os setup on acer pentium 166 ("Jason Umbarger")
Windows/Linux : Disk size issue ("Chris Jones")
Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0 (Dances With Crows)
Re: image copy of linux to larger disk (Robert Jones)
Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue (nobiscuit)
Re: backups via NFS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: If I switch to Mandrake 7.2, will I take a hit? ("Garry Knight")
Re: need help: linux os setup on acer pentium 166 ("Philo")
Setup Newbie! ("Chris L.")
Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue ("Karl Heyes")
Unable to run Sawfish config as non-root (legend)
Re: Help installing KDE 2.0!!!! ("Dennis Popov")
Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue (Scott Nolde)
Re: Finding Lost Files (Scott Nolde)
Re: mouse unstable after XF86Setup - how fix?? (Scott Nolde)
Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue (Matthew Garrett)
Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0 ("Marco Shaw")
Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue ("Chris Jones")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.0 and Cable Internet
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:26:57 GMT
I use to have Bresnan Link (which was a subsidary or ATT at home) and
when I had that, I didn't have to do a thing to get it to work. As aoon
as I installed Linux and then opened a browser, the internet worked.
David
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <bzxG5.2138$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"exarch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone set up Optus@Home cable internet under redhat 7.0 ? or any
other
> version that applies to the situation ? any info would be helpfull,
thanks.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Jason Umbarger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: need help: linux os setup on acer pentium 166
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:48:25 GMT
i am attempting to install linux on an acer pentium 166 with 80MB ram, a 30
GB harddisk, IBM 33.6 Mwave modem, some type of integrated video card...
i'm having a lot of trouble... each distribution i attempt to install locks
up at one point or another (i've tried redhat 6.2, corel 2d ed., and
icepack). i also tried turbolinux server 6.0 lite which displayed L1
repeatedly on my screen or just once in the upper left corner, depending on
which installation attempt we're talking about... i've repartitioned,
reformatted, cleaned out the first sector (or whatever you call it where
LILO is installed), etc. more times than i can count, so i don't think
that's the problem.
can i run linux on this machine or is it just somehow not compatible with
that os? if there is some compatibility problem, how can i remedy it? if
linux won't work on this machine -- is there some other operating system
that will which is fairly accessible to a newbie but also more stable than
win95?
thanks for your help!
jason
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From: "Chris Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux,uklinux.help.newbies
Subject: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:18:27 -0000
Hi,
I wish to install linux (redhat) as a dual boot option on a machine
currently running windows98 only. I need to increase the disk space to do
this so would like to replace the current 1Gig disk with a somewhat larger
one (20Gig or so). Now, I suspect my machine may suffer from the 8.4 Gig
1024 cylinder limit BIOS issue which would effect windows but not I gather
linux.
If so could I get around this problem with the following ? If I place the
linux boot partition and the windows partition below the 1024 cylinder
limit, and then make the remaining space above 1024 into linux partitions.
I've used linux quite a bit but never installed a system so I don't know if
this is possible, or just a dumb idea ?
Of course I could just not bother with windows at all. Attractive but
unfortunatley I suspect I still will need it from time to time.
cheers Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0
Date: 11 Nov 2000 22:32:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[inappropriate NGs trimmed]
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:44:36 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>Where can I get Oracle for Linux? Is there a free download version?
Go to http://technet.oracle.com/products/8i/ . You will have to
register with them, the download is pretty bloody huge (250+M) and there
are a number of restrictions. You can use the free download for
development/testing/fiddling around, but if you put it into production,
you have to pay for it. IIRC there's a limit on the number of
simultaneous connections to the database with the free download.
The install procedure is a royal pain in the arse, as you may have heard
from other sources. I posted a brief guide back around June or July,
but it was geared to SuSE users. RedHat users may have fewer problems,
since Oracle developed the thing for RedHat in the first place. Go to
your distro's website and search around for "Oracle"; they most likely
have a patch set for the installer. Apply that patch set and follow the
directions. Make sure that the environment variable ORA_NLS33 is set
correctly! It should point at $ORACLE_HOME/ocommon/nls/admin/data but
it took me 45 minutes of cursing and using strace to find out that the
installer was barfing because of that variable.
The Net8 Configuration Assistant crashed spectacularly every time I
tried to save the config file it was supposed to be creating. Sample
config files are in $ORACLE_HOME/network/admin/samples/ so just modify
those by hand with a text editor and put them in the appropriate places
instead of trying to use the Assistant. HTH, good luck....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: image copy of linux to larger disk
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:57:56 -0600
"John E." wrote:
> I have a linux system at home which I use as a gateway and a file server.
> The hard disk size has become inadequate.
>
> I do not want to add another separate hard disk. What I would like to do is
> image copy my drive over to a larger hard drive. Can that be done in Linux?
> And if so what hunk of software can I use to accomplish this task?
>
> John
The Hard-Disk-Upgrade mini howto addresses this task exactly. In RH 6.0, it's
at /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade
--
4:36pm up 28 days, 11:01, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.10, 0.04
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From: nobiscuit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux,uklinux.help.newbies
Subject: Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:00:05 +0000
Chris Jones wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wish to install linux (redhat) as a dual boot option on a machine
> currently running windows98 only. I need to increase the disk space to do
> this so would like to replace the current 1Gig disk with a somewhat larger
> one (20Gig or so). Now, I suspect my machine may suffer from the 8.4 Gig
> 1024 cylinder limit BIOS issue which would effect windows but not I gather
> linux.
>
> If so could I get around this problem with the following ? If I place the
> linux boot partition and the windows partition below the 1024 cylinder
> limit, and then make the remaining space above 1024 into linux partitions.
> I've used linux quite a bit but never installed a system so I don't know if
> this is possible, or just a dumb idea ?
>
> Of course I could just not bother with windows at all. Attractive but
> unfortunatley I suspect I still will need it from time to time.
>
> cheers Chris
that should work
as long as you put /boot under the 1024 limit
regards
Tony
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:45:30 -0500
Subject: Re: backups via NFS
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/11/00
at 04:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry McBride) said:
>In article <3a0bf459$3$qnivfs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>--- snip ---
>>I'm having trouble with my main machine right now, darn it! Everything's
>>on hold until I can boot back in.
>>
>Ooopps... you run as root, all the time? I used to do that when I was
>first into linux... then after I rm'ed my root directory I figure it'd be
>best to start logging in as a user... :')
No, I only log in as root when I want to fool around; I fool around too
much!<g>
>[...]
>Hmmm... I don't have any idea how things are priced there in Germany. But
>here in the US, buying an additional harddrive would probably offer the
>BEST bang for the buck.
A guy with a shop around the corner seems to have some SCSI stuff
periodically at reduced prices. In general the HD prices seem comparable
to the USA.
It'd be faster than any of the other backup
>methods and if coupled with a "removable drive bay" it'd make for a GREAT
>way to swap in and out a number of different drives. I used to do just
>that, with scsi drives. Since that time, I've moved over to cdr as my
>back up media.
I have that on my machine at home. The next chance I get, I'll do a nice
backup of everything. While here I'm considering getting a burner but, as
you say, an extra HD, perhaps removable, is a nice, quick solution.
>>So, I guess in my case, backup should be pretty fast.
>>
>You bet!
>>I thought the answer would be 'dd' but I wanted to be sure.
>>
>There's other optiosn to... if you just need to backup a certain number
>of specific files.. you could do it with tar, zip, etc. You could use the
>current date as part of the filename, and keep the backups in/on your
>backup media.
I've been considering more 'brute force' -- packing _everything_. Maybe I
should fine-tune more. Linux seems to install things all over the place
though so I'm afraid of missing something if I cherrypick. (This is, of
course, a matter of my inexperience.)
My dream is, "Problem with system? Push a button and the latest backup is
restored." Or: "Just moved to Germany? Put together a computer, pop in a
<HD | tape | cd | ...> and your setup is restored (with tweaking, of
course!)."
>There's all kinds of options. I haven't explored them all either.... :')
>Cheers.
For kicks, and to get a backup for now, I'm going to try over the nfs
network with dd.
F.
>> We are Hugh...of Borg. Beverly will be assimilated. Hubba Hubba. <
Hugh is great! Would love for him to meet a nice Borguette!
F.
===========================================================
Felmon John Davis
Union College / Schenectady, NY
os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
===========================================================
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: If I switch to Mandrake 7.2, will I take a hit?
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:14:25 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8uj10h$1vpbh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "nemo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I run an AMD K6-2 400 with 60MB RAM, and 4MB shared RAM. With so
> little resources, is it worth my while switching, as I've read that
> X-window app.s, and window managers can be resource hogs. Is my
> system's performnce likely to improve, suffer, or remain unchanged
> after a switch from Win98SE to MDK
> 7.2?
I'm running Mandrake 7.2 with KDE2 and X 4.01 on a Cyrix P200MMX, with
a 4 MB bog-standard graphics card, 80 MB RAM and an ATA66 hard drive
forced to run in ATA33 mode. I've had Konsole, Pan, KMail, Kppp and
Konqueror running concurrently at an acceptable speed with no problems.
I guess whether it's for you depends on what you're going to throw at
it.
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need help: linux os setup on acer pentium 166
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:14:09 -0600
there is almost for sure some hardware incompatibility
it could be anything from RAM to your video card...
hopefully someone here can give you a better answer...but i personally dual
boot
windows98 and linux.
i'll probably get clobbered for this but my win98 has never gone into a
hard crash...
in the last year i'd say one or two lock-ups a month at the very worst.
i run a similar machine and find that with a decent but not huge amount of
RAM,
a slower cpu coupled to a new, high-speed drive leads to an extremely stable
system.
--
Philo
website: www.plazaearth.com/philo
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From: "Chris L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setup Newbie!
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:19:16 -0500
I'm hemming and hawing about installing Linux RH on my rig. What I want to
do is install it so that it only recognizes the drive it's installed on and
acts like it's the only OS, on the computer aside from the multi-boot OS
option. I've W98 installed, updated, optimized and running better than Gates
could get it to run. Can anyone give me a few pointers or hints how to
install Linux the way I want?
--
Chris L.
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From: "Karl Heyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux,uklinux.help.newbies
Subject: Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:39:43 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "nobiscuit"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
....
>
> that should work as long as you put /boot under the 1024 limit regards Tony
more specifically the root partition, which contains things like
/boot for kernel images
/sbin for init
/bin basic utilities
/etc configs eg fstab
/lib libc, and modules
The BIOS loads the kernel, but after the kernel takes over and IDE driver does
not have the problem.
karl.
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From: legend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Unable to run Sawfish config as non-root
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:40:55 +1100
Hi all,
Under Mandrake 7.2 (and I believe it was the case for 7.1), as a user
you cannot run 'sawfish-ui' (the app that is run under control panel)
when you want to configure Sawfish.
If you run sawfish-ui you get:
error--> (error "can't call sawfish-client")et:
or 'sawfish-client' you get:
can't connect to display:
Upon doing a grep for all "sawfish" processes, I get this:
shanel 1842 1 0 10:31 ? 00:00:02 sawfish --sm-client-id
11c0a8431
But logging in as root you do not have any of these problems.. Is it a
priv problem with Mandrake?
Hope someone can help, cos Sawfish is very nice and I'd like to use it.
regards,
Shane.
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From: "Dennis Popov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Help installing KDE 2.0!!!!
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:41:19 -0500
Reply-To: "Dennis Popov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Why don't you get the mandrake 7.2 ISO? It comes with KDE 2 preinstalled.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8ukbkd$hn8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ok, just to let you know, I am terrible at installing programs in
> Linux. I have ran Linux for a while, but I might as well be classified
> as a newbie.
> I have tried numerously to get KDE2 installed on my machine. (somehow
> I managed to get a beta version installed a long time ago, but have no
> idea how I did it. It isn't installed on here anymore, just to let you
> know. I reinstalled Linux since then.)
> Here's a rundown of my machine
>
> 400 MHz
> 192 megs of ram
> 5.1 gig drive
> acer 54e monitor (handles 1024x768)
> ati rage 128 agp video
> sb live sound
> zoom 56k v90 modem
> hp cd writer (and a normal 40x cdrom)
> ls-120
> 1.44 floppy
>
> I don't know what will help you but I might as well write more than
> enough info rather than not enough.
>
> I have Linux Mandrake 7.0 installed as my main and only OS.
> I already have kde 1.1.2 installed on this machine, along with other
> window managers.
>
> The last time I tried to install KDE2, I downloaded all of the files
> from...
>
>
http://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/2.0/distribution/rpm/Mandr
ake/
>
> I installed them in this order...
>
> kdesupport.arch.rpm
> kdelibs.arch.rpm
> kdebase.arch.rpm
>
> They weren't exactly these file names but the one closest to it at the
> ftp.sourceforge.net address. I would install the library file first and
> then the base file second.
>
> Now I did install other files inbetween these files and probably before
> the first one. While installing them, I told it to check for
> dependencies and if there was a dependency problem, I would uninstall
> what ever RPM that was conflicting with by using the rpm -e <filename>
> or if it needed a file, I would go online and download it. But some of
> these programs would have so many dependencies that I would be here for
> a half hour just uninstalling dependencies for one file. And quite
> often, the dependencies would have dependencies and they would have
> dependencies, and it would go on forever.
> I did try to reformat the partition and install Linux without KDE 1.1.2
> in it and it still had a ton of dependency problems.
> Then I tried to just force them all in, but that caused a lot of
> problems. And on top of all of this, it said that my xf86 server needed
> to be updated. (I am currently using 3.3.6.) I never got that working
> right until I reinstalled Linux and that is about where I am at now.
>
> If someone could give me detailed instructions on how to install KDE2,
> that would be great.
>
> Or is there an installation program that installs KDE2 for you and
> solves all the dependency problems by itself like the Helix Gnome
> install program?
>
> Is it better to use the RPM files or the tar.gz files?
>
> Please just give me instructions like you were explaining this to a
> person that has never seen a computer before.
>
> Thanks A Lot for your time,
> David
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux,uklinux.help.newbies
Subject: Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:33:15 GMT
Chris Jones wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wish to install linux (redhat) as a dual boot option on a machine
> currently running windows98 only. I need to increase the disk space to do
> this so would like to replace the current 1Gig disk with a somewhat larger
> one (20Gig or so). Now, I suspect my machine may suffer from the 8.4 Gig
> 1024 cylinder limit BIOS issue which would effect windows but not I gather
> linux.
>
> If so could I get around this problem with the following ? If I place the
> linux boot partition and the windows partition below the 1024 cylinder
> limit, and then make the remaining space above 1024 into linux partitions.
> I've used linux quite a bit but never installed a system so I don't know if
> this is possible, or just a dumb idea ?
>
> Of course I could just not bother with windows at all. Attractive but
> unfortunatley I suspect I still will need it from time to time.
>
> cheers Chris
RedHat 7.0 no longer has the 1024 cyl issue.
- Scott
--
Never do Windows again with | Scott M. Nolde
Linux! No streaks, haze or | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
glaze! |
6:30pm up 18:46, 1 user, load average: 1.03, 1.11, 1.05
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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Finding Lost Files
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:35:57 GMT
Chris Harris wrote:
>
> I have SuSE Linux 6.3, which I have been experimenting with. I more or
> less have everything working but am having sport getting my SB 16 PnP
> card working. While messing about I deleted the "soundcore" module and
> cant work out how to reload it from the ditro. CDs.
>
> Can anybody help? Basically what is the procedure to find one file on
> the CDs and extract it to the right place on the HD?
>
> thanks
> Chris
I did worse than that when I hosed my boot partition...
I don't use SuSE, but perhaps you could reinstall the sound package.
- Scott
--
Never do Windows again with | Scott M. Nolde
Linux! No streaks, haze or | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
glaze! |
6:35pm up 18:51, 1 user, load average: 1.04, 1.06, 1.03
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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mouse unstable after XF86Setup - how fix??
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:46:40 GMT
Sean Chivers wrote:
>
> I have just installed new Voodoo 3 2000 drivers to udate my x server. I
> am running Redhat 6.0 x server 3.3.3.5... something...
>
> I can now use my new video card, under x, but both XF86Setup and Xconfig
> cannot (even though the correct setup has been chosen) make my mouse
> work correctly in x (Gnome 1.0) since I ran the setup progs to get the
> card setup.
>
> I have a Microsoft Intellipoint Optical (PS2). It was working
> wonderfully on my old video card, so I know it's not a mouse
> incompatibility issue. Also, I was using the Intellimouse driver on
> install which worked wonderfully before.
>
> Does anyone know a utility or module procedure which my fix my problem
> that doesn't use the XFConfig utilities? They stuffed it up in the first
> place.
>
> I have tried: gpm -t imps2 ( works correctly in console); - ensuring
> setup is psaux, or ps2, or even Intellipoint, or mouse (for the dev
> device), or /dev/gpmdata, but none of this works.
>
> My mouse is _there_ (in x), however it goes wild at the slightest
> touch, and opens and shuts apps at random.
Gnome might be having problems with it... I had a similar problem.
--
Never do Windows again with | Scott M. Nolde
Linux! No streaks, haze or | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
glaze! |
6:45pm up 19:01, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 1.03, 1.00
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From: Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux,uklinux.help.newbies
Subject: Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue
Date: 12 Nov 2000 00:05:06 GMT
In article <Z4lP5.10805$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris
Jones wrote:
>> RedHat 7.0 no longer has the 1024 cyl issue.
>
>Sure, but as I understand I would still have to use LILO (or someother) to
>boot which would need to be able to read /boot and is also limited by the
>restrictions imposed by the BIOS....
Assuming you have a semi-recent BIOS, it should be able to manage
this. LILO 21 supports using the BIOS LBA32 extensions to get past the
limits in older versions.
--
Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Marco Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:00:21 GMT
Yes:
1. otn.oracle.com where you can get a free account, and continue from there.
2. Buy the Oracle Press/Osborne book: Oracle 8i for Linux Starter Kit to get
the CD.
Marco
"Doug Holtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3a0d859e$0$99041$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Where can I get Oracle for Linux? Is there a free download version?
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From: "Chris Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux,uklinux.help.newbies
Subject: Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:01:01 -0000
> RedHat 7.0 no longer has the 1024 cyl issue.
Sure, but as I understand I would still have to use LILO (or someother) to
boot which would need to be able to read /boot and is also limited by the
restrictions imposed by the BIOS....
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