Linux-Setup Digest #20, Volume #20 Sat, 11 Nov 00 23:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Peanut distro ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Peanut distro (ds1436)
Re: e2fsck can't fix filesystem (Paul Colquhoun)
Re: Booting on floppy stops ("Patrick Bartek")
Re: Why Won't LILO Boot? ("Patrick Bartek")
Utterly unable to understand how to setup soundcard ("frankie")
Please disregard last post or file under "Duh" (Wuz BIOS settings) ("frankie")
Re: SBLive Help! ("A Popple")
Re: Need a driver "SIS 6326 AGP" video card
Intellimouse Optical ("Bill")
Re: Linuxiso.org: How to create a bootable CD? (Rod Smith)
Re: mouse unstable after XF86Setup - how fix??
Re: Linux+Win2k+win98??? (Rod Smith)
Re: Linux+Win2k+win98???
Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue ("A Popple")
Re: Intellimouse Optical
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Peanut distro
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:13:02 GMT
I'm a newbie, and Peanut is great for me. It's the only distro that
got me KDE working. SuSe6.2, Caldera2.2 can't get X going but Peanut
did. It's a very good deal(downloaded free) vs. the $$$ Ipaid for the
SuSe, install fast and you have all you needs and more. I got the
8.1 and I believe 8.2 is out there now. I'm learning the system now
and will soon be on my way to KDE2 & X4.0 plus the Dev pkg. I
struggled and wasted a lot of time with those Caldera & SuSe.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:04:55 GMT, "Alan casey"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just figuring out Linux, and have come across Peanut Linux. Seems very
>small (and therefore attractive). What I cannot figure out is what I would
>be giving up. Anyone help.
>
>Also is this version suitable for a newbie?
>
>Thanks a lot.
>
>
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From: ds1436 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Peanut distro
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:30:25 GMT
The main feature of Peanut is that it's very small, but sill complete. If you
look at the big distro's (like Red Hat, Mandrake, Caldera, etc...), the
standard install can easily take up 1-2GB of hard drive space. What you get is
tons and tons of programs and utilities (which is good), but most people never
use any of them. Basically, think of all the programs and utilities you
normally use, then multiply them by like 3, and that's what most distro's give
you. And don't forget to add in all the development stuff (like programming
languages, compilers, debuggers, etc...). Of course, you don't have to install
all this stuff, but no one really likes sorting through huge lists of files,
trying to figure out what they are, and if they need to install them or not.
Peanut gives you all the basic stuff you need for a desktop system, and then
leaves it up to you to install any of the extra stuff you might want (which is
really easy to do, using a program called Midnight Commander). The benefit is
the system is easy to download, and is great for using on either small drives,
or if you need lots of space for other stuff, like mp3's or something.
However, if you really have no clue how Linux works, it might not be the best
distro to start with. It's not hard to install or use, but it's not as simple
as the big distros. Look at the installation docs: if they make sense to you,
then I'd say try it, you've got nothing to loose. When I started using Linux, I
found the big distro's overwhelming. The only plus side to a major distro, like
Mandrake for example, is that they will support more current hardware out of
the box (like high-end video cards and USB devices), while small distro's will
require you to configure this stuff manually.
There was a great help forum for Peanut, but they suddenly took it down
indefinitely (no real explanation...).
Alan casey wrote:
> Just figuring out Linux, and have come across Peanut Linux. Seems very
> small (and therefore attractive). What I cannot figure out is what I would
> be giving up. Anyone help.
>
> Also is this version suitable for a newbie?
>
> Thanks a lot.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: e2fsck can't fix filesystem
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:46:36 GMT
On 12 Nov 2000 00:51:08 GMT, Jason L. Maron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|Hi,
|
|My filesystem is damaged, and I haven't been able to fix it with e2fsck.
|If the system looses power before you can run /sbin/shutdown, the
|filesystem is damaged and you have to run "e2fsck /dev/hda10" to fix it.
|While doing so, I get this error:
|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|error while scanning inodes (195200): can't read next inode. ignore? <y>
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|If I say no, e2fsck crashes. If I say yes (the default), e2fsck
|finishes, but when I try to boot, I repeatedly get this error:
|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|hda: hq timeout: status=0x51 driveready seek-complete error.
|LBA sect=6424237, sector=3145888
|EXT2-fs error (device ide(3,10)): ext2: write_inode: unable to read inode
| block- inode=195202, block=393236
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|This prolongs the boot, which ends up taking 15 minutes. The operating
|system then functions normally. I didn't try to run e2fsck on a
|mounted filesystem because it warns that this will "severely" damage
|the filesystem.
|
|This is a vexing problem because the sleep function doesn't work on this
|500 MHz powerbook.
|
|I can't be sure, but the damage may have resulted from closing the lid
|while pmud was active. It tries to put the powerbook to sleep, but is unable
|to do so and justs ends up futilely accessing the hard drive.
|
|Any help would be appreciated.
What filesystem is on this partition?
You should be able to unmount the partition, then run fsck and
remount when it is finished.
Assuming the partition is not part of the system (like /usr) and
is not in use by any programs, do this:
umount /dev/hda10
e2fsck /dev/hda10
(NOTE: using -p or -y will repair without you having to answer
a lot of questions. -y prints the question, but auto answers
with a 'yes'.
If that works OK, then
mount /dev/hda10
--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
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xenaphobia: The fear of being beaten to a pulp by
a leather-clad, New Zealand woman.
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From: "Patrick Bartek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Nov 2000 18:12:34 +0800
Subject: Re: Booting on floppy stops
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> Good evening,
>
> I have fdisk:ed and formatted a 500MB disk in Win98 DOS and boot up with
>
> Linux on a floppy. I receive the answer "Partition Check:
> Hda:"
>
> That's it! How do I get the boot to carry on?
Question: Are you trying to INSTALL Linux on the hard drive or are you
using one of those "Linux on a Floppy" distros?
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NoLife Polymath Group
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From: "Patrick Bartek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Nov 2000 18:16:10 +0800
Subject: Re: Why Won't LILO Boot?
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> I have to use a boot disk to see the LILO prompt. Is there anyway I can
> just have a menu that comes up and lets me choose between Windows Me or Red
> Hat? I have my 13GB HD partioned with Windows using C,D,E and the rest of
> the free space is dedicated to Linux.
> Any ideas?
One: Have you installed Linux on the MBR?
Two: Is the Linux kernal installed beyond the 1023 cylinder of the
hard drive?
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From: "frankie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Utterly unable to understand how to setup soundcard
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:59:41 -0500
Wondering if anyone has had similar experiences.
Kayak XU-P400 with AD-1816 integrated sound card. (HP part # D 5704T)
RH 7.0 installed . everything groovy. It's (mostly) all working
except a glorious system beep is all I can get in lieu of sound.
Tried to have ISAPNP give me a look. Here's the scoop (not):
==============================
# Compiler flags: -DREALTIME -DNEEDSETSCHEDULER -DABORT_ONRESERR
#
# Trying port address 0273
# Trying port address 027b
......(skipped as there are so many)......
# Trying port address 03bb
# Trying port address 03e3
# Trying port address 03eb
# Trying port address 03f3
# No boards found
================================
Here is what my /var/log/msgs says:
Nov 11 12:37:20 localhost kernel: ad1816: AD1816 sounddriver Copyright
(C) 1998 by Thorsten Knabe
Nov 11 12:37:20 localhost kernel: ad1816: $Header:
/home/tek/CVSROOT/sound22/ad1816.c,v 1.3 1999/04/18 16:41:41 tek Exp $
Nov 11 12:37:20 localhost kernel: ad1816: io=0x530, irq=5, dma=0,
dma2=0, clockfreq=33000, options=0 isadmabug=0
Nov 11 12:37:20 localhost kernel: ad1816: detect(530)
Nov 11 12:37:20 localhost kernel: ad1816: Chip is not an AD1816 or chip
is not active (Test 0)
Nov 11 12:37:20 localhost insmod:
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22smp/misc/ad1816.o: init_module: Device or resource
busy
Nov 11 12:37:20 localhost insmod: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by
incorrect module parameters,
including invalid IO or IRQ
parameters
Nov 11 12:37:20 localhost insmod:
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22smp/misc/ad1816.o: insmod sound-slot-0 failed
Nov 11 12:37:20 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
sound-service-0-3
==================================
Result : No Sound
I do not have Windows on this machine to probe the IRQ and DMA settings.
What to do ?
I do have a Soundblaster AWE64 I could stick in the machine.
Any help appreciated.
Frankie
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From: "frankie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Please disregard last post or file under "Duh" (Wuz BIOS settings)
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 22:21:57 -0500
...as usual, RTFM !!!
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From: "A Popple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SBLive Help!
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:30:28 +0500
In article <8uhv37$ec3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "D. Bell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have recently installed RedHat Linux 6.1 on my WindowsMe box at home.
> I was able to successfully get my ppp working last night (had to use
> external modem), but I still can't get my sound card to work. It's a
> SoundBlaster Live Value PCI. Is there a configuration utility (GUI) that
> does this, or do I need to somehow set this manually? If anyone can give
> me some direction, I'd appreciate it. Thanks,
>
> db
I'm running Redhat Linux 6.2 on my box. I found that the drivers redhat
suplied didn't work at all out of the box. Head over to
http://how.to/sblive for information and tips on how to get it working.
It basically requires you to compile the driver manually, although I had
no problems (I used the 20001103 snapshot). One thing to check though is
to make sure that the BIOS doesn't have the "PnP OS Installed" set to
yes, which it may have if you had windows installed. This will basically
stop every PnP card installed in your box from working, as linux doesn't
support PnP. This setting shouldn't impact on windows.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need a driver "SIS 6326 AGP" video card
Date: 12 Nov 2000 03:27:34 GMT
Try
http://www.sis.com.tw
-- Gene Wiggins
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just got a computer and wiped everything out and reinstalled the
> Operating System.
> I do not have a driver for the "SIS 6326 AGP" video card and the company
> that made it is not on the web. I think they went out of business.
> Can anyone point me to a driver for this card?
> Please email me if you can help!
> Thanks
> Darwin
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From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Intellimouse Optical
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:32:16 -0600
This mouse, the Microsoft Intellimouse Optical, is supposed to be compatible
with Linux. Before I buy it, however, is there any other manipulation I
have to do to ensure compatibility other than to use the usb-ps2 converter?
PS:
Will the converter change the mouse's performance?
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linuxiso.org: How to create a bootable CD?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 03:31:31 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic Faure) writes:
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 04:57:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod
> Smith) wrote:
>
>>Nothing. You don't want to burn this image file to disc on its own
>>ISO-9660 filesystem. You want to tell the CD-R creation software that
>>you're creating a CD-R from an image file. There should be an option
>>somewhere to do that -- "create CD-R from image file," "burn ISO image
>>to CD-R," or similar words. Point the software to the image file, and
>>it should work. If you do this right, you **WILL NOT** get the option to
>>set a filesystem type or specify a boot floppy image, because that stuff
>>is already embedded in the file you've downloaded. With some programs,
>>you should be able to double-click the file you downloaded and your CD-R
>>software will launch with the correct options.
>
> Er... The first Cd was made exactly this way with Adaptec EZ CD
> Creator (not sure about the name), as explained in the demo on
> www.linuxiso.org, but it wouldn't boot. To have a bootable CD, I
> switched from Joliet to ISO9600 so as to enable the "Make bootable"
> switch, and fed EZ CD Creator a Win98 boot floppy. it did fare better.
If you had a choice to switch from Joliet to ISO-9660, you did *NOT*
use a "create CD-R from image file" or similar option. As I said, the
filesystem (ISO-9660, Joliet, HFS, etc.) is embedded within the image
file, so that option is 100% meaningless when creating a CD-R in this
way. To be sure, look at the contents of the unbootable CD. If you see
the .iso file you downloaded, you did it wrong. If you see a bunch of
files and subdirectories, including README files and whatnot, then it
was done correctly. In that case, my guess is that your computer just
can't (or isn't configured to) boot from a CD-ROM drive. If that's
true, look on the CD-R you created for a directory called images or
boot_floppies or some such. There should be a bunch of 1.44MB files in
there and a text file describing their use. You'll need to copy one of
these to a floppy disk using a special DOS program. You can then boot
from the floppy disk to kick-start the installation. Some distributions
also let you start the installer from DOS or Windows.
Under no circumstance should you need to use a Win98 boot floppy as part
of the CD-R creation process.
> According to a private e-mail sent by someone, it seems like the
> bootable floppy as to be the boot.img file that is located on the
> RedHat CD. If correct, I'll give it a third try next week...
That's a floppy image file, as described above. If you can see it, but
the CD-R doesn't boot on your system, your simplest task is to create a
boot floppy and boot from it.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mouse unstable after XF86Setup - how fix??
Date: 12 Nov 2000 03:33:42 GMT
You probably need to change the configuration file manually. Log in as
root, then go to the /etc directory.
Edit XF86Config
Change the part that says
Section "Pointer"
to be like this:
Section "Pointer"
Device "/dev/psaux"
Protocol "IMPS/2"
Buttons 5
ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection
I think this is what I used recently for an optical MS. Good luck.
-- Gene Wiggins
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sean Chivers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have just installed new Voodoo 3 2000 drivers to udate my x server. I
> am running Redhat 6.0 x server 3.3.3.5... something...
> I can now use my new video card, under x, but both XF86Setup and Xconfig
> cannot (even though the correct setup has been chosen) make my mouse
> work correctly in x (Gnome 1.0) since I ran the setup progs to get the
> card setup.
> I have a Microsoft Intellipoint Optical (PS2). It was working
> wonderfully on my old video card, so I know it's not a mouse
> incompatibility issue. Also, I was using the Intellimouse driver on
> install which worked wonderfully before.
> Does anyone know a utility or module procedure which my fix my problem
> that doesn't use the XFConfig utilities? They stuffed it up in the first
> place.
> I have tried: gpm -t imps2 ( works correctly in console); - ensuring
> setup is psaux, or ps2, or even Intellipoint, or mouse (for the dev
> device), or /dev/gpmdata, but none of this works.
> My mouse is _there_ (in x), however it goes wild at the slightest
> touch, and opens and shuts apps at random.
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux+Win2k+win98???
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 03:38:53 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <TqiP5.535$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"SoudBoy0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ok I am stuck needing all three and would like to boot 98 on hdb.
That's tricky at best. Microsoft, in its infinite wisdom, refuses to
allow its OSs to boot from anything but a primary partition on the
first physical disk (/dev/hda1 through /dev/hda4). (It is possible to
put the bulk of the OS elsewhere, but at least some boot files normally
have to go on the first disk.) Some utilities claim to be able to work
around this, but I've never tried them. (The Ranish Partition Manager's
[http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/] Advanced Boot Manager
claims this ability, for instance.) You might be able to play games
with LILO to get it to do this, too, but again I've never tried this.
I've always managed to get a boot partition for Windows on the first
physical disk. If there's some reason you can't do this, please
elaborate.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux+Win2k+win98???
Date: 12 Nov 2000 03:44:19 GMT
In /etc/lilo.conf:
other = /dev/hdb1
label = win98
loader = /boot/chain.b
map-drive = 0x80
to = 0x81
map-drive = 0x81
to = 0x80
table = /dev/hdb
This causes the second physical hd to become C: in Win 98. Don't know
what effect this will have on win2k partition. Good luck.
-- Gene Wiggins
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SoudBoy0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok I am stuck needing all three and would like to boot 98 on hdb. I do not
> have aney fat partitions on hda. Lilo says its loading win 98 but after
> that, nothing. Can win98 boot from hdb? Does it need a fat partition on hda?
> Is there any thein special needed? I have win2k and linux on hda and thay
> boot fine. I am using mandrake 7.0 and lilo setup shows no errors.
> Aney help would be greatly aprecated.
> thanks, SpudBoy
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From: "A Popple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux,uklinux.help.newbies
Subject: Re: Windows/Linux : Disk size issue
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 14:52:16 +0500
In article <WAjP5.4328$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chris
Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wish to install linux (redhat) as a dual boot option on a machine
> currently running windows98 only. I need to increase the disk space to
> do this so would like to replace the current 1Gig disk with a somewhat
> larger one (20Gig or so). Now, I suspect my machine may suffer from the
> 8.4 Gig
> 1024 cylinder limit BIOS issue which would effect windows but not I
> gather
> linux.
>
> If so could I get around this problem with the following ? If I place
> the linux boot partition and the windows partition below the 1024
> cylinder limit, and then make the remaining space above 1024 into linux
> partitions. I've used linux quite a bit but never installed a system so
> I don't know if this is possible, or just a dumb idea ?
>
> Of course I could just not bother with windows at all. Attractive but
> unfortunatley I suspect I still will need it from time to time.
>
> cheers Chris
>
I haven't had any problems using GRUB, although it's harder to setup and
use - but it does have a pretty menu interface.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intellimouse Optical
Date: 12 Nov 2000 04:02:14 GMT
I have installed two of them as PS2 style rather than USB. Both worked
fine. SuSE 6.4
-- Gene Wiggins
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This mouse, the Microsoft Intellimouse Optical, is supposed to be compatible
> with Linux. Before I buy it, however, is there any other manipulation I
> have to do to ensure compatibility other than to use the usb-ps2 converter?
> PS:
> Will the converter change the mouse's performance?
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