Linux-Setup Digest #99, Volume #20               Fri, 24 Nov 00 09:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: Stuck at LI, How to uninstall LILO? ("philo")
  Re: lilo prompt L 01 01 ..... (Eric)
  [Q] How to get the Ethernet address ? ("Pillonel =?ISO-8859-2?Q?C=E9dric?=, 
NWS-PD-71")
  Re: "Dialup Configuration", netcfg (Keith)
  Re: please help with kernel build!! ("Peter T. Breuer")
  HPT370 and RH7.0 ("Phil Whiles")
  Partition 18Gb HDD : HOW ? (NDQ)
  Re: Partition 18Gb HDD : HOW ? (Eric)
  Re: netscape 6 crashed on RH 6.2 (Paul Michalik)
  Re: Polish(ed) Linux Distribution? (Martin Gregorie)
  URGENT: Very strange problem (Kernel kills all processes?) (Raffael Herzog)
  Help Screen i wrong in Red Hat 6.0 ("NoWay")
  Re: Mandrake or Red Hat? ("Barry")
  Re: Help Screen i wrong in Red Hat 6.0 ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: URGENT: Very strange problem (Kernel kills all processes?) ("Peter T. Breuer")
  PPP and name resolution ("Dan Edmunds")
  Re: RH7.0+Win2K:Linux boot floppy doesn't ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: SAMBA and fax server for windows clients (Leif =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sj=F6lund?=)
  Re: Help Screen i wrong in Red Hat 6.0 ("NoWay")
  Re: free RAM and out of memory? (Harald van Pee)
  Re: Linux on AMD (Bill peacock)
  Re: Linux with an Intel Pentium 4 processor (Bill peacock)
  6.2->7.0 upgrade=trashed ("Gene Heskett")

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From: "philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stuck at LI, How to uninstall LILO?
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 02:56:34 -0600

to boot back to windows just use your windows boot floppy and do
a fdisk/mbr
also, there are versions of lilo now which can boot beyond the 1024th
cyl.

--

Philo

website : www.plazaearth.com/philo

dos win lin os/2 cp/m nde beos



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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo prompt L 01 01 .....
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:59:43 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Michael Fan wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have A7V and a DiamondMax Plus 45 30.7G disk attached as hdb
> (temporally. will move to ATA100 when I figure out how. almost now).
> Booted from RH7 CD and installed it. Partition as
> hdb1 30M on /boot.
> hdb5 12G msdos blank.
> hdb6 256M as swap
> hdb7 remaining space as /
> lilo installed on MBR
> now boot from hard disk and I got:
> L 01 01 ....(endless 01)
> Boot from floppy is ok. According to Lilo User Guide 0x01 is "Illegal
> command" and may indicate an attempt to access a disk which is not
> supported by the BIOS. Not sure, /boot is at the beginning of the disk,
> should be ok?
> Out of clue now. Please help.

Do as Faux_pseudo described, or supply the HDD C/H/S values when booting
The error 0x01 indicates a geometry mismatch (IIRC), supplying these
values would solve that.

Eric

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From: "Pillonel =?ISO-8859-2?Q?C=E9dric?=, NWS-PD-71" 
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: [Q] How to get the Ethernet address ?
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:17:57 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How can I get the Ethernet address from my C++ application ?

Thanks.

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From: Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: "Dialup Configuration", netcfg
Reply-To: "Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:25:22 GMT

On 24 Nov 2000 07:22:44 GMT, Phlip 
 <8vl504$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>What is Linux doing wrong?
>
>Oops - I'm sorry - I meant to say "What am _I_ doing wrong?"

Your right it is the linux kernel fault. 
rm -f /*/*/* should fix your problem.

-- 
Best Regards,

Keith         (Use Reply-to for email)
=============================================================================
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please help with kernel build!!
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:09:56 +0100

Adam Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I try to build a new kernel;
> using "make dep; make clean"  then "make bzImage", I'm getting errors at
> the end of that command, and no bzImage is produces (kernel 2.2.16-22,

> Any advice or knowledge would be greatly appreciated!!!

Impossible. You didn't provide the error messages and we have no
psychic powers (at least, not yet ..).

Peter

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From: "Phil Whiles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: HPT370 and RH7.0
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:18:46 -0000

I have finally managed to get RH7 installed onto a 46Gb HD which I have
moved onto an offboard HPT370 based controller.
I have tweaked lilo.conf in the recommended fashion such that lilo will see
the drives on this controller, and that it will boot off the 46Gb.

So linux boots and runs ... Cool.

Q. Do I need to compile in to the kernel the latest ide patch to enable
support for the HPT370 ?
Q. How will this improve my lot ? will I get ATA66 or ATA 100 performance ?
or will I be getting this already ?

I am using the kernel sources out of the Redhat box, so to speak :
2.2.16-22.

Q. Could someone please tell me, (if the answers to the above suggest that I
do need to build in support), where I can download a patch file that will
_cleanly_ and _easily_ patch the redhat distro kernel source ? I have tried
two such patches from www.kernel-ide.org, and one goes awol (the patch
process aborts ? and leaves my terminal in chinese mode ?), the other
bitches about a diff going bad, and the resultant source is not compilable).

Regards

Phil Whiles



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From: NDQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition 18Gb HDD : HOW ?
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:18:32 +0100
Reply-To: NDQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,
Anyone could give me an example partitions for HDD 18Gb SCSI ?
I would like setup linux box (RH or SuSE) for about 10 users with this
PC.

Thanks,
-- 
NGUYEN-DAI Quy

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition 18Gb HDD : HOW ?
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:12:13 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

NDQ wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Anyone could give me an example partitions for HDD 18Gb SCSI ?
> I would like setup linux box (RH or SuSE) for about 10 users with this
> PC.
> 

I can ofcourse, but why do you think my suggestion is better than yours?
Well here it goes:

/     200 MB (put this at the start of the disc)
swap  256 MB (depends on what you want to use the box for)
/tmp    1 GB
/var    1 GB
/home  10 GB
/usr    the rest ~5 GB

This scheme may suit your needs, although the sizes may vary depending
on the plans you have with this PC.

Eric

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From: Paul Michalik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape 6 crashed on RH 6.2
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:19:40 +0100

I downloaded directly from netscape.com and
on SuSE7.0 netscape crashes with following:

>>>
+ dist_bin=/home/paul/netscape
+ script_args=
+ moreargs=
+ debugging=0
+ MOZILLA_BIN=mozilla-bin
+ '[' 0 -gt 0 ']'
+ eval 'set -- '
++ set --
+ echo /home/paul/netscape/run-mozilla.sh
/home/paul/netscape/mozilla-bin
/home/paul/netscape/run-mozilla.sh /home/paul/netscape/mozilla-bin
+ /home/paul/netscape/run-mozilla.sh /home/paul/netscape/mozilla-bin
MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/home/paul/netscape

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/paul/netscape/Cool:/home/paul/netscape:/opt/kde/lib:/opt/kde2/lib
          LIBPATH=/home/paul/netscape:/home/paul/netscape/Cool
       SHLIB_PATH=/home/paul/netscape:/home/paul/netscape/Cool
      XPCS_HOME=/home/paul/netscape/Cool
      MOZ_PROGRAM=/home/paul/netscape/mozilla-bin
      MOZ_TOOLKIT=
        moz_debug=0
     moz_debugger=
/home/paul/netscape/run-mozilla.sh: line 29:  1693 Segmentation
fault      $prog ${1+"$@"}
>>>

During the installation I got following:

>>>
*** QfaServices is being registered
*** Deferring registration of sample JS components
************************************************************
* Call to xpconnect wrapped JSObject produced this error:  *
[Exception... "Factory not registered (may be tried again)
[nsIModule::registerSelf]"  nsresult: "0x80040155
(NS_ERROR_FACTORY_REGISTER_AGAIN)"  location: "<unknown>"  data: no]
************************************************************
-*- filepicker: registering (all right -- a JavaScript module!)
*** Registering sample JS components
>>>

It seems to be the same what you got when running the ./netscape script,
what's this, does it matter? Does your netscape work now? If yes, what
have you done???

--
Paul Michalik
TU Ilmenau, FG Grafische Datenverarbeitung
Langewiesener Str. 37 D-98693 Ilmenau
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: +49 3677/691211
Mobile: +49 170/2963808
http://www.rz.tu-ilmenau.de/~paul




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie)
Subject: Re: Polish(ed) Linux Distribution?
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:21:54 GMT

On 24 Nov 2000 03:40:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard
J. Freedman) wrote:

>There are a slew of RPMS on rpmfind.net called the Polish(ed) linux
>distribution. There are both intel and sparc binaries.  Can anyone tell
>me anything about their quality and who the originators are?  I'm
>pariculary interested in the sparc disribution --- anyone know which
>sun archetecture(s) are supported?  Thanks.
>-

Well, the zip 2.8.3_i386 distribution seems to work pretty well with
RH 6.2


--
gregorie  | Martin Gregorie
@logica   | Logica Ltd
com       | +44 020 76379111

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From: Raffael Herzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: URGENT: Very strange problem (Kernel kills all processes?)
Date: 24 Nov 2000 13:46:09 +0100

I'm having a very strange problem with my SuSE7.0 server. Without any
recognizable regularity, the following happens:

1. No process does anything anymore

2. Something's working on my hard-drive for about 30 seconds

3. Probably all processes get killed using SIGKILL. I say probably
   because any shells got killed I can't login anymore, so I can't
   ensure.

In that state, the kernel seems still to be working. Ping works. I can
type the username on the login-prompt, but when I type enter, the
cursor jumps to the next line and nothing happens anymore and there's
no more feedback on what I type.

When I reboot shortly after this happened, I get tons of

  "deleted inode ... has zero DTIME"

messages during the fsck. But no files are missing! If it happens
during the night and the server stays in that state for a while, I get
the normal amount of those messages (about two or three), thus the FS
still seems to sync.

The syslog doesn't show any messages, everything looks like this never
happened.


Several questions:

1. Has anybody an idea what this could be?

2. Is there a possibility to track what exactily is going on?

3. I put the hard drive and the network card in another computer, but
   this still didn't solve the problem. Is it possible that this is
   caused by a failure of the hard drive or the network adapter?


-- 
Raffael Herzog
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

May the penguin be with you!

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From: "NoWay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help Screen i wrong in Red Hat 6.0
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:44:56 +0100

I Just installed Red Hat 6 and I have choosen the wrong screensize. I see a
fragment of the screen when running since (I think) I chose 50-70 in screen
setup. How can I change this. Help plz

Claus (A Linux Newbie)



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Subject: Re: Mandrake or Red Hat?
From: "Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:01:38 -0700

Just the kind of advice I was looking for, thanks!

I have just finished downloading the Mandrake ISO files, and am now burning
them off onto CD. Better support to me is a definite plus, and updating that
often is fantastic support. Also, a version optimized to run on the
processor I use is a plus, too.

Thanks for the input!

Barry

"liquidFX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8vhtn8$32f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've been using Mandrake faithfully since 5.0 and also dual boot into
> Caldera edesktop 2.4 and have used Kondara and Red Hat on a regular
> basis....and the thing that keeps me coming back to Mandrake is the
> outstanding hardware support....they seem to be frequent enough with
updates
> to keep including new HW....my advice....try a few but you'll come back to
> Mandrake for its ease of use...support software includes...good luck..
>
> <<<<hand over the coffee and nobody gets hurt>>>>>
>
>
>



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Screen i wrong in Red Hat 6.0
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:03:25 +0100

NoWay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I Just installed Red Hat 6 and I have choosen the wrong screensize. I see a
> fragment of the screen when running since (I think) I chose 50-70 in screen
> setup. How can I change this. Help plz

Do the setup (not the installation) again. Run whatever RH's setup
thing is currently called .. and read the manual to find out what.
I imagine it's kudzu or XF86Setup or linuxconf ...

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: URGENT: Very strange problem (Kernel kills all processes?)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:59:58 +0100

In comp.os.linux.setup Raffael Herzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Has anybody an idea what this could be?

Corrupted swap, bad memory, overheated cpu, failing pci bus, openended
scsi bus, defective add-on card ....

> 3. I put the hard drive and the network card in another computer, but
>    this still didn't solve the problem. Is it possible that this is
>    caused by a failure of the hard drive or the network adapter?

Oh, definitely. And you just more or less eliminated it. Keep on going.

Peter

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From: "Dan Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP and name resolution
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:09:17 -0500

I am not able to resolve host names once connected to my ISP.  I get
'unknown host' message when I ping or use the browser.  I have my modem
connecting.  I am receiving the name server addresses from the ISP.  ppp0 is
the default route when the modem is connected.  I can ping any Internet
address - once I know it using nslookup.  I do not have 'named' running on
my machine - I can not imagine having to do that...  Any suggestions would
be very much appreciated.

Dan Edmunds
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH7.0+Win2K:Linux boot floppy doesn't
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:17:48 GMT

Thanks for your interest Eric,

The silly (or rather sad) thing here is that Redhat 7.0 does not
appear to create a working boot floppy during our installation.
Otherwise it was all perfect (booted directly from CD to
run the installations). The bootchain is OK (CD, floppy, harddisk).
The boot partitions are below the 1024 cylinder boundary.

After the successful installation, LILO is in hdb1, and we need
to boot Linux from a floppy the first time to copy the bootsector
to a file and then set up the NT bootloader for the dual boot.
But the new Linux boot floppy (just created by Redhat installation)
is not working.

The "workaround" was simple. Without any changes to the hardware,
bios or partitioning, I set up Mandrake 7.2, and it works immediately...
The Mandrake boot floppy created during this installation is
immediately recognised and boots the system correctly.

Terje Krognes



In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > We have just tried two different dual boot setups
> > of Win2k and Linux Redhat 7.0. Both have Win2k on
> > hda and Linux on hdb, with a small /boot partition
> > as hdb1. LILO was installed in hdb1.
> >
> > The first system used NTFS on the Win2k drive, and
> > appears to have exactly the same problem as
> > described by Murray Eisenberg; the boot floppy
> > is ignored. The floppy drive was replaced, but
> > no obvious hardware error was found.
> >
> > The second system used FAT32 on the Win2k drive,
> > and here the Linux boot floppy is recognised.
> > The Linux kernel image appears to be read from
> > the floppy, but after some time the process
> > is aborted and reports Error 0x10. After this
> > the boot restarts (with the same result in an
> > endless loop until power is turned off). No other
> > messages appear in this loop.
> >
>
> This is silly.
>
> It has nothing to do with winNT or Linux
> The BIOS is responsible for booting an OS, first the bootcode at the
> floppy is searched, if it is found it is loaded and executed. If it is
> not found, the MBR is read/loaded/executed.
>
> So make a working bootfloppy (use RH6.x to make one, just to be sure),
> and make sure you're BIOS doesn't mess up (check the bootchain)
>
> Error 0x10 indicates a geometry error IIRC, but check the
documentation
> that comes with LILO.
>
> Eric
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Leif =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sj=F6lund?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SAMBA and fax server for windows clients
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:27:36 GMT

Last day I setup mgetty-sendfax on the Linux system.
Then I installed RESPOND on the windows clients.

Works perfect. Now using that all the time. Mgetty also able
to recieve and print faxes.

Check http://alpha.greenie.net/mgetty/index.html for more details

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ursprungligt meddelande <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

"Darren Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev 2000-11-20, kl. 16:56:41=
=20
ang=E5ende =E4mnet SAMBA and fax server for windows clients:


> Has anyone successfully set up a fax server, like efax, that works=20=

through
> SAMBA?  I am interested in running efax on my Linux firewall / router =
box
> and allowing windows clients to access the modem to send and receive=20=

faxes.
> Anyone had any success?

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From: "NoWay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Screen i wrong in Red Hat 6.0
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:30:23 +0100

Ok thx I'll try to do the setup again
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> NoWay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I Just installed Red Hat 6 and I have choosen the wrong screensize. I
see a
> > fragment of the screen when running since (I think) I chose 50-70 in
screen
> > setup. How can I change this. Help plz
>
> Do the setup (not the installation) again. Run whatever RH's setup
> thing is currently called .. and read the manual to find out what.
> I imagine it's kudzu or XF86Setup or linuxconf ...
>
> Peter



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From: Harald van Pee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: free RAM and out of memory?
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:43:06 +0100

O.k.no answer here, but Andrea Arcangeli has it explaind to me.
Short summery:
Parameter 2GB: up to 2GByte of RAM are used by the Kernel (can be used
as filesystem cache), but
the per-process limit of virtual memory is reduced.
Parameter BIGMEM: Up to 4GB of RAM are used by the Kernel, but the
file system cache is limited to 1 GByte.

With 1.5 GByte RAM installed, and 2GB=y, BIGMEM become a no-op, but
the per-process limit of virtual memory is reduced (but the filesystem
cache can be more than 1 GB).

-> I use 1GB=y and BIGMEM=y

Harald


Harald van Pee wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use SuSE 7.0 (2.2.16 Kernel with SuSE patches),
> asus a7v board with 1.5 GByte RAM,
> 1.5 GByte swap space.
> 
> My program needs about 1 GB of memory, so with the standard Kernel
> Linux have to swap a lot.
> 
> So I have set the parameters
> CONFIG_2GB=y
> CONFIG_BIGMEM=y
> 
> and make a new Kernel image.
> Now Linux uses the whole RAM, but I always get out of memory!
> Nothing else have changed!
> Where is the problem?
> The following C++ program allocates (close to) the maximum memory I can
> get
> 
> #include <iostream.h>
> #include <iomanip.h>
> #include <stdlib.h>
> #include <limits.h>
> #include <stdio.h>
> 
> int main(void)
> {
> void *p;
> 
> {p = new int [356900000L];
> }
> cout << p << endl;
> 
> exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
> }
> 
> why can I not allocate at least (close to) 2 GByte of memory?
> And why can I alloc 440000000 integers on a machine with 384 MByte,
> 1.5Gbyte swap and standard Kernel?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Harald

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Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill peacock)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:47:18 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>Have been unable to install Linux Red Hat 6.2 on both my AMD 700 & AMD 233
>Does it run on AMD's ?
>
>
Mandrake 7.2 on an Athalon 700 with no problems...


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Subject: Re: Linux with an Intel Pentium 4 processor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill peacock)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:51:32 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>I should be grateful for some advice on how best to configure the Linux kernel
>for a PC fitted with an Intel Pentium 4 processor?
>
>Many thanks in advance,
>
>-- 
>Robin Cosby
>
A 1GHZ Thunderbird would probably give better performance and cost a lot less 
and no compatibility problems.


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Date: 24 Nov 2000 9:7:0 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 6.2->7.0 upgrade=trashed
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help

I *had* a very well working system, RH6.2 with as much stuff updated as
dependencies would ley up, running kernel-2.2.18pre23 yesterday morning.

Using the same boot disks and cd's that put 7.0 on my office machine
flawlessly, I did the 'upgrade existing system' option of the install.
It put in about 195 megs with of updates and was done.  On the reboot,
/etc/sysinit couldn't be found, it locked, and the reset key was the only
operating button anywhere.

I can boot from the cd, but expert text mode eventually tells me I have
to run e2fsck on one or more of my partitions.

I can reboot from the cd in 'linux rescue' mode, but the only way I can
access the drive is by doing

 mkdir /foo
 mount /dev/hda1 /foo

where I can then do 'e2fsck /foo/dev/hda1' which reports that it needs
checked, and goes thru the motions.

If I attempt, without mounting it someplace, to do

 e2fsck /dev/hda1

then it fails because the cdrom (or floppy, I've tried both many times
now) boot /dev doesn't have but 20 or so descriptors in it, and none of
them are hda etc style hard drive descriptors.

Thats contradictory because I can access it by the mount command, and
the drive appears to be there after having done so.  Why is that
descriptor available to mount, but not to e2fsck?

So I umount /foo, after doing the e2fsck on it, which takes a few seconds
and reboot to attempt a custom install so I can re-install
'initscripts-*' again, which I've watched the 'upgrade' do many times
now.  And I'm greeted by the dreaded dirty disk syndrome again.

Rebooting to rescue shows that all those scripts have been made into
either .rpmorig's or .rpmsave's, and no replacement scripts have been
installed.

If rebooted to linux single, no repairs are possible because the whole
system is then mounted read-only.

I've got about 11 gigs of data on this system that would take me weeks
of online time to locate and download again, so I have always refused to
let it format those partitions.  I could afford to lose the cd
collection as its all been burnt to a couple of cdr-w's, and the rest of
it is on backup tapes, uptodate as of early yesterday.  After beating my
head on this wall for 14 hours yesterday, I'd be happy to just recover
my working 6.2 install.

Until I can get the system mounted r-w, it isn't going to do me any good
to attempt a recover with arkeia.

It appears I have neither chicken, nor egg.  So what do I do next folks?

Cheers, Gene
-- 
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