Linux-Setup Digest #132, Volume #20 Wed, 29 Nov 00 19:13:15 EST
Contents:
kvm switch ("Luke Richards")
Re: Linux boot from floppy SLOW (Gabriel James)
Re: Software to monitor online time ("Philip Jones")
Re: Software to monitor online time ("Philip Jones")
Re: Lilo halting at boot ("richard.hilton1")
Re: mysql connection problems (localhost connection) (Patrick F Harris)
HD off after boot - possible?? ("Juho")
Re: multiple IDE-adapters (milanuk)
Re: dual boot w/ win98 on secondary master ("Patrick Bartek")
Re: kvm switch (Jim McDonald)
Re: I am confident you will help me with "LI" from LILO ("James West")
Network installation kickstart (Noel Santiago-Ramos)
Re: I am confident you will help me with "LI" from LILO ("Dan Jacobson")
Re: How come paths not working? (Rand Simberg)
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From: "Luke Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kvm switch
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:27:17 -0000
Hi all
Thanks for reading. I was wondering whether anyone has any problems with kvm
switches and linux.
I have recently bought a Belkin kvm switch and x now does not want to
recognize anything. I have RH 6.2 and I use the utility Xconfigurator and it
just keeps coming back with an error that it don't work.
I was wondering whether anyone had an suggestions??
Thanks for any help
Luke Richards
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From: Gabriel James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Linux boot from floppy SLOW
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:33:50 GMT
Stop booting from a floppy. Floppy drives are painfully slow, especially
with all the stuff Red Hat loads. There are plenty of boot loaders that
can handle that drive, take a look around on www.freshmeat.net and do a
search to find one that looks good to you.
You could also try setting the boot floppy to load into single user mode
(I don't actually know how, as I have never actually booted right into
single user mode, probably just some sort of "-s" argument to the kernel
at boot, which you could set up in the boot disk commands. Look for a
howto at linux.org.) which would be much faster, and then launch into
the higher runlevel from the hard disk using init.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed Red Hat Linux 7 last week in the last 4 GB or a 20 GB disk,
> so I am booting to Linux from a floppy. It works OK, but is very slow -
> taking about 10 minutes to get past all the periods. Can anyone tell me
> if this is normal, and if there is a way to speed this up?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Stevens
>
>
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From: "Philip Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Software to monitor online time
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:16:56 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are using kppp, edit your ISP setting on kppp and enable
> accounting.
>
> Philip Jones wrote:
>
>> I now have a limited number of hours online before i have to pay extra,
>> is there any software I can use to keep a running total of my online
>> time.
>>
>> Phil Jones
>
Thanks kppp does the job o/k.
Phil Jones
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From: "Philip Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Software to monitor online time
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:23:24 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are using kppp, edit your ISP setting on kppp and enable
> accounting.
>
> Philip Jones wrote:
>
>> I now have a limited number of hours online before i have to pay extra,
>> is there any software I can use to keep a running total of my online
>> time.
>>
>> Phil Jones
>
Thanks kppp seems to the job o/k.
Phil Jones
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From: "richard.hilton1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo halting at boot
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:29:24 -0000
Adding lba32 to the lilo.conf file and then rerunning lilo solved the
problem for me!!
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From: Patrick F Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mysql connection problems (localhost connection)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:22:07 -0600
List
I have just spent a couple of nights reviving a Java <> MySql program, that
ran fine on RH 6.2
After a clean RH 7.0 install the old java stand alone (no-gui.jar) program
could not connect to the old data base
mm.mysql driver. - error message was internally generated by mm.mysql.
>> "Server configuration denies access to data source".
Symptoms, MySql Severs is up & I can connect with MySql etc. from the Local
net and from the machine running MySql.
Java application can connect from local net, but not from the local machine! I
suspect that mm.mysql was trying to find the local
socket and could not. I have no idea how to tell mm.mysql what the local name
socket is.
======
My solution was to take all the fancy installation determination stuff out of
safe_mysqld, hard code the installation stuff there, put a
copy my.cnf with the same information in /etc, and hard code the
installation data in mysql_configuration.
========
An open issue the system is getting the mysql_setaccess script
(perl5.00 DBI) to run.
Patrick
David Maggiano wrote:
> I had to abort 7.0 due to other problems that I encountered but there is a
> bulletin on the redhat web site about problems with the MySQL that shipped
> with 7.0. The link off the top page that says 'update notice' eventually
> gets you to a screen with the following info.
>
> --------
> The mysql packages shipped with Red Hat Linux 7.0 don't allow users to
> access the socket, causing the package to work for users "root" and "mysql"
>
> only. Also, the pid file handling has been fixed.
> -------
>
>
> > Please respond if you have any ideas.
> >
> > Thanks
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From: "Juho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HD off after boot - possible??
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:52:49 +0200
I have a cable connection which I share with a IP-masquerading linux server.
The server does nothing else, just forwards, masquerades and firewalls the
traffic between two ethernet adapters so it's really very simple and compact
setup. Hardware is P75/800HD/24MB.
I need to make the machine as silent as possible. So I need to get rid of
the HD spinning all the time.
Is it possible to somehow configure the machine so that once it has booted
and loaded all the needed stuff into memory, the HD is switched off and it
stays off no matter what? I have the bios HD sleep setting at 2 minutes, but
after spinning down the HD it takes about 2 minutes max that Linux wants to
use the hd with no apparent reason and it spins up again.
What causes this? Can it be avoided? Could the swap use a ram disk (I could
add memory)?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Juho
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From: milanuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: multiple IDE-adapters
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:53:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DualIP) wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:51:23 GMT, Miguel De Buf
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi there,
> >
> >I am putting together a linux server with 6 disks. I plan installing
> >two extra IDE-cards (PCI), so I would have 6 IDE controllers.
> 6 controllers?
> Onboard are 2 IDE controllers , capable of hooking up total 4 HDs
> You only need one extra standard IDE controller to hookup 6
>
Yes, but I think that you kill the performance (and take some chances)
if you have more than one drive per IDE channel. So the two onboard
controllers equal two drives. He needs two more controllers, each
supporting two drives each (assuming two channels per card)
> For each HD on it's own IDE string you need to add 4 controllers
>
> There are boards out there that do hardware raid on IDE disk.
> I'd go that way , and check linux support prior to purchase
>
> DualIP
>
Check around some more. Those boards require drivers not supported
under Linux AFAIK. Ther's little to no gain from what I hear over a
regular IDE controller card, since you have to do it all w/ software
raid any way.
Monte
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From: "Patrick Bartek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 29 Nov 2000 14:37:35 +0800
Subject: Re: dual boot w/ win98 on secondary master
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> James Van't Slot wrote:
> >
> > I'm setting up my Linux machine to be dual boot.
> > I have 3 disks and 1 cdrom.
> > hda - Linux native
> > hdb - Linux native (hda1 = /usr/local)
> > hdc - win98
> > hdd - cdrom
> >
> > I've tried a few things with LILO but when haven't been able to get
> > anything to work with win98 just a blank screen with a flashin cursor.
> > Linux boots fine, as does win98 when I unplug the first 2 disks off the
> > primary IDE.
> > Win98 seems to not mind that it is booting off the secondary IDE in this
> > case.
> >
> > I just can't seem to get it to work from LILO.
> >
> > Any suggestions as to what the lilo.conf file should look like in this
> > case?
> > I've searched all the docs and all over the web but have not found any
> > info on this particular situation.
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> map-drive=0x82
> to=0x80
> map-drive=0x80
> to=0x82
>
> for more detailed stuff, take a look at the site that svend-olaf
> mentioned
On my system, W98 wouldn't boot up under lilo until I removed all the
map-drive= commands. I used a boot floppy with only Lilo on it.
98 booted fine, otherwise. W98 occupied all of the Master drive on
the Primary IDE controller. DOS/Windows3.1 and Linux were on the
Slave.
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From: Jim McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kvm switch
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:25:48 -0800
Luke Richards wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Thanks for reading. I was wondering whether anyone has any problems with kvm
> switches and linux.
>
> I have recently bought a Belkin kvm switch and x now does not want to
> recognize anything. I have RH 6.2 and I use the utility Xconfigurator and it
> just keeps coming back with an error that it don't work.
>
> I was wondering whether anyone had an suggestions??
>
Look elsewhere; I have 2 Belkin KVM switches(RH6.0/NT4, RH 6.2/NT4) and no problems
whatsoever.
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Reply-To: "James West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "James West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: I am confident you will help me with "LI" from LILO
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:45:16 +1300
try the boot disk on LBA
worked for me a few times
James
"Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9036u2$mal$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am confident you will help me with "LI" from LILO. This is
> as far as my Mandrake 7.2 boot gets. The boot from floppy works though.
> I replaced grub as you said lilo has better documentation, this fact is
> mentioned
> on the lilo and lilo.conf man pages also, though they say not where that
> documentation
> is to be had. Grub had stopped after "stage1".
> Anyways, below I present some BIOS info,
> my lilo.conf, fdisk -l, and lilo -t -v -v -v output.
> I have only tinkered with the lba/linear choice in
> the default lilo.conf, which I restored back anyway.
> Yes one doesn't use -t to install, I know.
> No, I don't think it's a bios thing, as I remember previous
> sucesses with past versions of Mandrake.
> I do note that while I'm looking at the stalled "LI",
> above it there is Bios info:
> Primary Slave Disk: CHS, UDMA
> whereas the Primary Master is LBA, UMDA.
> Therefore my boot disk (hdb) isn't LBA? Now what?
> I am confident that if I present all required information,
> you experts will solve my problem. Tell me if there is
> more information needed.
>
> BIOS Date: 01/22/98
> BIOS Type: Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
> BIOS ID: 01/22/98-SiS-5598-<SP97_V>C-00
> BIOS Eval: #401A0-0106v
> Chipset: SiS 5597 rev 2
> Superio: Winbond 877F (use 87h) rev 0 found at port 3F0h
>
> # cat /etc/lilo.conf
>
> boot=/dev/hdb
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> vga=normal
> default=linux
> keytable=/boot/us.klt
> lba32
> #linear #tried them both
> prompt
> timeout=150
> message=/boot/message
> menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
> label=linux
> root=/dev/hdb1
> initrd=/boot/initrd.img
> append=" hdc=ide-scsi"
> read-only
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
> label=failsafe
> root=/dev/hdb1
> initrd=/boot/initrd.img
> append=" hdc=ide-scsi failsafe"
> read-only
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=windows
> table=/dev/hda
> map-drive=0x80
> to=0x81
> map-drive=0x81
> to=0x80
> other=/dev/fd0
> label=floppy
> unsafe
>
>
> # fdisk -l
>
> Unable to read /dev/hdc
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1867 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 * 1 1020 8193118+ b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hda2 1021 1867 6803527+ f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/hda5 1021 1867 6803496 b Win95 FAT32
>
> Disk /dev/hdb: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 58168 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hdb1 * 1 1015 511528+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb2 1016 58168 28805112 5 Extended
> /dev/hdb5 1016 1522 255496+ 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hdb6 1523 7617 3071848+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb7 7618 17863 5163952+ 83 Linux
>
>
> # lilo -t -v -v -v
>
> Warning: /dev/hdb is not on the first disk
> The boot sector and the map file have *NOT* been altered.
> LILO version 21.5 (test mode), Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
> Extensions beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2000 John Coffman
> Released 18-Jul-2000 and compiled at 11:17:43 on Oct 3 2000.
>
> Reading boot sector from /dev/hdb
> Merging with /boot/boot.b
> Device 0x0341: BIOS drive 0x81, 16 heads, 58168 cylinders,
> 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
> Secondary loader: 11 sectors.
> Device 0x0341: BIOS drive 0x81, 16 heads, 58168 cylinders,
> 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
> Mapping message file /boot/message
> Device 0x0341: BIOS drive 0x81, 16 heads, 58168 cylinders,
> 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
> Message: 0 sectors.
> Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz
> Device 0x0341: BIOS drive 0x81, 16 heads, 58168 cylinders,
> 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
> Setup length is 7 sectors.
> Mapped 0 sectors.
> Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.img
> Device 0x0341: BIOS drive 0x81, 16 heads, 58168 cylinders,
> 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
> RAM disk: 0 sectors.
> Added linux *
> <dev=0xb1,hd=7,cyl=140,sct=153>
> "ro root=341 hdc=ide-scsi"
> Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz
> Device 0x0341: BIOS drive 0x81, 16 heads, 58168 cylinders,
> 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
> Setup length is 7 sectors.
> Mapped 0 sectors.
> Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.img
> Device 0x0341: BIOS drive 0x81, 16 heads, 58168 cylinders,
> 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
> RAM disk: 0 sectors.
> Added failsafe
> <dev=0xb1,hd=7,cyl=140,sct=178>
> "ro root=341 hdc=ide-scsi failsafe"
> Boot other: /dev/hda1, on /dev/hda, loader /boot/chain.b
> Device 0x0301: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 1867 cylinders,
> 63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
> Mapped 6 (4+1+1) sectors.
> Added windows
> <dev=0xb1,hd=7,cyl=140,sct=204>
> Boot other: /dev/fd0, loader /boot/chain.b
> Device 0x0200: BIOS drive 0x00, no geometry.
> Pseudo partition start: 0
> Mapped 6 (4+1+1) sectors.
> Added floppy
> <dev=0xb1,hd=7,cyl=140,sct=210>
> Map file size: 32768 bytes.
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From: Noel Santiago-Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Network installation kickstart
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:46:27 -0600
I'm traying to install a Nefinity with RH6.2 using ks.cfg. It has RH 6.2
already but I want to overwrite. It has 3 hdisk
I'm having this errors
#11/29
#Trying to install using NFS and ks with pre-existing partitions
#Exception Ocurred
#Traceback (innermost last):
#File "/usr/bin/anaconda", line 341, in ?
# extraModules = extraModules)
#File "usr/lib/anaconda/todo.py",
#line 332, in __init__
# self.setClass(instClass)
#File "/usr/lib/anaconda/todo.py",
#line 822, in setClass
# todo.addMount (dev,mntpoint,fstype,reformat)
#File "usr/lib/anaconda/todo.py",
#Line 395, in addMount
This is my ks.cfg file
### Language Specification
#lang ru_RU.KOI8-R
lang en_US
### Network Configuration
#network --bootproto dhcp
network --bootproto static --ip XXXXXX --netmask XXXXXX --gateway
XXXXXXX --nameserver XXXXXX
### Source File Location
#cdrom
nfs --server ape.apt.austin.ibm.com --dir /lte/images/redhat6.2/
### Ethernet Device Configuration
#device ethernet wd --opts "io=0x280, irq=3"
### Keyboard Configuration
### Will get set to 'us' by default
### if nothing specified in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard
keyboard us
### Partitioning Information
### Whether to clear out the Master Boot Record (yes/no)
### Which partitions to format (--linux/--all)
### --linux - only format existing linux partitions
### --all - format all existing partitions
### Which partitions to set up on new system as well
### as size of those partitions
zerombr yes
clearpart --linux
part /boot --size 16
#part swap --size 1000000 --ondisk sdc
part / --onpart sda1
part /tmp --onpart sdc2
part /usr --onpart sdb1
#part raid.0 --size 80
#part raid.1 --size 80
#raid swap raid.0 raid.1 --level 1 --device md0
install
### Mouse Configuration
### Will only setup 3 types of mice
### generic - 2-button serial
### genericps/2 - 2-button ps/2
### msintellips/2 - MS Intellimouse
### All three can be setup with or without 3-button
### emulation
### Run 'mouseconfig --help' in order to see other
### supported mouse type and make appropriate change
### NOTE: You will need to run 'mouseconfig' manually
### after installation if you have a non-ps/2 mouse
### and are installing X, as a ps/2 mouse is setup
### by default
#mouse generic --device ttyS0
mouse --emulthree genericps/2
### Time Zone Configuration
### Will get set to 'US/Eastern' if ZONE is missing
### from /etc/sysconfig/clock or if file is missing entirely
timezone --utc US/Central
### X Configuration
### Will set up system for minimal resolution and color depth;
### may wish to run Xconfigurator manually after system installation
#xconfig --server "SVGA" --monitor "viewsonic g773"
xconfig --server "S3" --monitor "ibm 6554 p70 (603 & 604) "
#S3 Trio64 (generic) server = S3 monitor
### Root Password Designation
### '--iscrypted' does not work properly with release 6.1 as shipped;
### will need to get updates from http://support.redhat.com/errata
### in order for this to work correctly; can also just specify
### root password in plain text and change it after system installation;
### e.g. 'rootpw ThisIsThePassword' will get root's password to
### "ThisIsThePassword"
rootpw " like I'm going to tell"
### Authorization Configuration
#auth --useshadow --enablemd5
auth --enablemd5
### Lilo Configuration
### Does not support pulling kernel 'append' arguments, but those
### can be added into config file using '--append' argument;
### e.g. 'lilo --append "mem=128M" --location mbr' will put the
### memory argument in the /etc/lilo.conf file at install
lilo --location mbr
#lilo --location none
### Package Designation
### The package names, as well as the groups they are a part of can be
### found in the /RedHat/base/comps file; individual packages can be
### specified by entering their names one per line;
### groups (e.g. 'X Window System') can be specified
### by appending a "@" in front of the group name;
### e.g. '@ X Window System'
%packages
python
@ Base
@ X Window System
@ GNOME Workstation
@ KDE Workstation
@ Mail/WWW/News Tools
@ Networked Workstation
@ NFS Server
@ SMB (Samba) Server
@ Anonymous FTP Server
@ Web Server
@ Emacs
@ Development
@ Utilities
### Commands To Be Run Post-Installation
%post
echo "This is in the chroot" > /tmp/message
echo "Kickstart-installed Red Hat Linux `/bin/date`" > /etc/motd
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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: I am confident you will help me with "LI" from LILO
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:56:19 +0800
"James West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g��l��
news:OAgV5.358$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> try the boot disk on LBA
>
> worked for me a few times
if you mean in lilo.conf, it was on and didn't help.
if you mean in BIOS instead of "CHS",
then please tell me the consequences/implications of changing [if indeed
possible] first.
thanks
> > Anyways, below I present some BIOS info,
> > my lilo.conf, fdisk -l, and lilo -t -v -v -v output.
> > I have only tinkered with the lba/linear choice in
> > the default lilo.conf, which I restored back anyway.
> > Yes one doesn't use -t to install, I know.
> > No, I don't think it's a bios thing, as I remember previous
> > sucesses with past versions of Mandrake.
> > I do note that while I'm looking at the stalled "LI",
> > above it there is Bios info:
> > Primary Slave Disk: CHS, UDMA
> > whereas the Primary Master is LBA, UMDA.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg)
Subject: Re: How come paths not working?
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:56:11 GMT
On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:54:08 GMT, in a place far, far away,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) made the phosphor on my monitor
glow in such a way as to indicate that:
>How are trying to start programs: through the console, in an xterm, or
>what?
I think I figured the problem out. I was running as root from a
user's (mine) xterm. When you "su" do you not launch root's bash
profile? I noticed that when I went to a new terminal (not X) and
logged in as root everything was fine.
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