Linux-Setup Digest #153, Volume #20 Sun, 3 Dec 00 04:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: STOP getty..............howto?? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Installing on laptop without cdrom? (nope)
FIXED: Kernel panic with Mandrake 7.2 (x86_serial_nr=1 doesn't seem to work)
(Jeffrey Veiss)
Where's my modem? (Tom McCray)
Re: kernel 2.2.17 complile error ("David Balcom")
Re: RH7 and mysql ?? (Patrick Baer)
Re: Oh YUCK!!! (C. L. Lewis)
Re: Where's my modem? (C. L. Lewis)
Re: Bizarre CDROM mounting problem (Paul Steckler)
Re: RH7.0+Win2K:Linux boot floppy doesn't (Murray Eisenberg)
Mandrake install / upgrade woes ("Gary Morgan")
Re: Debian potato, video acceleration (Michael Perry)
Re: HD off after boot - possible?? (moonie;))
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: STOP getty..............howto??
Date: 3 Dec 2000 03:31:34 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(DTi4565459) writes:
]Thanks, Peter
]I looked at inittab, and there is a line:
]
]S:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty ttyS1
Get rid of it. Whoever put this in was not very knowledgeable.
]THe distro is Debian, which I downloaded and have tried to install on laptop
]from floppies.
?? Anyway use vi if you want and know it. Use nedit if you have it for a
more gui type editor. Use emacs if you know it. Use kedit if you have
kde,.... There are many editors you can use.
]Newbie needs help!
]TIA,
]david
]PS: How do you edit the ini file? (? vi ?) Where is it?
]>> I still can't get rid of "respawning" error, and I think it is because
]>getty
]>> starts during boot, and then it ties up modem so I can't even use minicom.
]>
]>It would be extremely unusual for a distro to have a default setup that
]>included a getty watching the serial ports. (it would be mgetty = modem
]>getty if so). And mgetty wouldn't stop minicom running because mgetty
]>gives way to other lock files .. but you0d have had to set minicom up
]>to produce the right lockfile.
]>
]>> I'm trying to migrate from W$h*t. Is there something like an autoexec.bat
]>in
]>
]>Yes. Man init. init is the first program run, and it is responsible for
]>starting daemons. Those include the "getty"s taht you log in to.
]>Look at /etc/inittab (and man 5 inittab). But you won't find a getty on
]>a ttyS device, I am pretty sure.
]>
]>> Linux so I can edit and rem out the instruction to start getty????
]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nope)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Installing on laptop without cdrom?
Date: 2 Dec 2000 21:42:20 -0600
The backpack cdrom may be a scsi so an imulation alias is in order,
then again thats only if the cdrom is a scsi.
In article <8ve1a8$h5p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm trying to install RH6.2 on a laptop without ide cdrom.
>i tried to connect a backpack cdrom (to a parallel port) but
>install doesn't have any drivers for pp cdroms.
>Anyone tried such install before?
>
>There is an option for cdrom module setup, but i'm not
>sure about irq to use, and this laptop is absolutely awfull
>when it comes to looking at the hardware. Any suggestions ?
>(beside getting a new one ;-)
>
>Thanks, Alex
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: Jeffrey Veiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus
Subject: FIXED: Kernel panic with Mandrake 7.2 (x86_serial_nr=1 doesn't seem to work)
Date: 2 Dec 2000 22:58:05 -0500
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Ok...Major DUH here. The system I originally installed Mandrake
to had 256M RAM; 128M PC100 and 128M PC133. For some reason, it only
detected 64M of it so I added the mem= option to lilo.conf. I only
installed the 128M PC133 chip into the new machine with plans to get
another PC133 chip but (stupid me) forgot to take the mem= out of the
lilo.conf!
I'd like to thank all of you who responded. Those of you who suggested
a memory issue get the prize! :)
Thanks again!
-Jeff
> Any assistance is appreciated!
>
> I've recently put together a new system, freshly installed Windows 98,
> but can't seem to get Mandrake 7.2 linux to boot. It keeps crashing
> (hard...I have to power cycle the machine) with:
>
> Memory: 256000k/261120k available (1136k kernel code, 420k reserved, 3016k data,
>128k init, 0k bigmem)
> general protection fault: 0000
> CPU: 0
> EIP: 0010:[<c0121c37>]
> EFLAGS: 00010286
> eax: 0000009f ebx: cfeff0d8 ecx: c0233480 edx: c0233480
> esi: 00000028 edi: ffffffff ebp: cfefffe0 esp: c024dec8
> ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
> Process swapper (pid: 0, process nr: 0, stackpage=c024d000)
> Stack: <removed...too many numbers!>
> Call Trace: [<c0106000>] [< . . .
> Code: 89 07 8b 3f 83 ee 01 73 c4 c7 07 00 00 00 00 fa c7 45 08 2b
> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
> In swapper task - not syncing
>
> There are two HD's in the system: one SCSI which is all Linux and the
> other IDE which is all windows.
>
> I can boot from a Slackware 7.1 SCSI boot floppy with root=/dev/sda5
> and it boots fine.
>
> LILO is still installed on the IDE drive and I've tried adding:
>
> x86_serial_nr=1 ide2=0x6800,0x6402 ide3=0x6000,0x5802
>
> which I got from the /proc/pci file when I booted from the slackware
> floppy. This was added to both the default 2.2.17 kernel and the
> 2.4 kernel I installed when I installed Mandrake.
>
> Also, I tried booting off the Slackware floppy with the above options
> so I could see the HD on the ATA100 bus (as /dev/hde). I modified
> lilo.conf to point to hde instead of hda and added the above lilo
> options, re-ran lilo, and got a LI message upon reboot.
>
> Here's the specs on the new system:
>
> Asus A7V, 1GHz T-bird, 128M PC133:
> AGP: ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 32M
> slot 1: empty
> slot 2: 3com 3C905-TX 10/100 ethernet
> slot 3: Creative Labs SB Live! 5.1
> slot 4: Adaptec 3940UW SCSI
> slot 5: Empty
>
> ATA100:
> Primary: Western Digital WD307AA 30M UDMA/66
> Secondary: None
>
> Adaptec 3940 channel A:
> 0 Seagate Cheetah ST19101W
> Adaptec 3940 channel B:
> 1 Pioneer DVD-ROM DVD-304
> 4 Plextor 12/10/32S CDRW
>
> IRQ's (IRQ sharing is annoying):
> 9 SB Live!
> 10 3com ethernet
> 10 ATA100
> 11 ATI All-In-Wonder
> 15 Adaptec 3940UW
> 11 Adaptec 3940UW
>
> Primary and secondary IDE disabled (free's 14 & 15)
> Parallel port disabled (free's 7)
> USB disabled
>
> The Western Digital IDE drive has only FAT32 partitions with
> the first loaded with Windows 98SE
>
> The Seagate SCSI has Mandrake 7.2 installed when the whole
> SCSI chain was in my previous PC *exactly* the same. In other
> words, all the SCSI devices are connected in the same places
> with the same cables with the same SCSI id's as in my previous
> PC and it worked fine.
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all assistance!
>
> -Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom McCray)
Subject: Where's my modem?
Date: 3 Dec 2000 03:39:12 GMT
Just installed RedHat 6 on a generic 133 machine. Everything seems to have
loaded just fine and I'm feeling my way through this new OS.
One of the things I want to get running right away is a connection to the
Internet. (I'd like to download SunOffice.) However my INTERNAL modem is
not seen by the OS. (Yes, I know that my book says are problems with
internal modems.)
I've run the minicom setup but cannot find the modem. Somewhere I read
that internal modems can come up with their own COM port. Maybe this is a
clue -- or maybe this is a red herring.
Anyone want to take this on? Thanks.
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From: "David Balcom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.2.17 complile error
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:37:24 +0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Loadsa ppl know the answer to that one. You needed to do a little more
> homework. The answer to this has been posted many times. Edit the make
> file and change the reference to gcc to point to kgcc and install the
> kgcc rpm.
I had installed RH 70 and found that I couldn't compile any kernels below
2.4.X, along with several other source files. I did a fresh install of RH
62 and
it would compile just fine. I read that the compiler in RH 70 is broken
(GCC 2.96) so I upgraded to RH 70 and left out the 'newer' compiler
version. I upgraded from GCC 2.91 to 2.95 and all has been well so far...
It was a pain to upgrade GCC with all of the dependencies but now I don't
have to tweak the makefiles at all...
Later, Dave
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From: Patrick Baer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7 and mysql ??
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 05:53:48 +0100
Adam Weeks schrieb:
>
> Anyone know anything wrong with using Adabas (staroffice) instead? (in
> meantime)??
>
> ./mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket
> '/var/lib/mysql/mysql
> .sock' (111)'
> Check that mysqld is running and that the socket:
> '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' ex
> ists!
>
Well does this socket exist?
--
Patrick Baer
http://www.computer-forums.com
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From: C. L. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh YUCK!!!
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 04:45:31 GMT
Dunno Colin. I've heard HURD is kinda like sex standing up in a hammock.
I'm shortly turning sixtish and there might not be enough sub-lingual
nitro-glycerin left in the world to get me through that kind of a
go-around. ;-(
Charles
In article <90c83c$kj5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) wrote:
> It's not really Linux, though it is Unixish in many ways - but maybe
you
> could try fiddling with the Hurd?
--
Laughter is the best laxative there is for a constipated mind. Humor is
an ideal spoon to dose it.
--Chronocidal Charlie, 1995-2000, RIP--
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: C. L. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where's my modem?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 05:19:01 GMT
Depends a lot on what kind of internal modem you have Tom. Lot's of
variables involved.
Not knowing, I'll just shoot into the dark and ask some questions that
might get you in the right direction. PNP? Non-PNP? Win-Modem? Old
Rockwell type? Jumpered? What settings does your bios allow?
I was once able to get an old Cardinal pnp to work under RH 5.2 on an
archaic IBM PS-1 486/25 with some major gymnastics with the isapnp.conf.
I've had pretty good luck with the Jaton series and currently use a 56k
Communicator V.90 with the pnp jumpers pulled off and set up for comport
2 or ttyS1 and my Award bios set to auto on serial port 1 & 2.
Lot of myths about modems, like the gal I heard about back in 1990 who
didn't want an internal fax modem cause she didn't want to go to the
trouble of removing the computer case to get the faxes out. ;-)
Charles
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom McCray) wrote:
> Anyone want to take this on? Thanks.
>
--
Laughter is the best laxative there is for a constipated mind. Humor is
an ideal spoon to dose it.
--Chronocidal Charlie, 1995-2000, RIP--
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Steckler)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Bizarre CDROM mounting problem
Date: 3 Dec 2000 05:22:40 GMT
Paul Steckler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: With both the CDROM and tape drive connected, neither device
: works under Linux. The tape drive fails with a message
: that the device is not configured. I also get a message
: about an unhandled interrupt.
Oops, never mind. The problem was the master/slave jumper
on the CDROM. The tape drive had been working, but probably
by accident. I may not have tried to use the CDROM since
installing the tape drive, so it's possible it wasn't
working before the power failure. Both devices are working
fine now.
-- Paul
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From: Murray Eisenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH7.0+Win2K:Linux boot floppy doesn't
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 05:45:30 GMT
That problem solved : After the install from CD-ROM, I inadvertenly
selected as 1st boot device something like "ARMD FDD" instead of "Floppy".
But I cannot get my RH 7.0 to boot from the NT Loader (although I can
from floppy)! See separate posting to this news group.
Murray Eisenberg wrote:
> PROBLEM: The Linux boot floppy created during installation of RH 7.0
> onto a Windows 2000 NTFS system will not boot into Linux.
>
> DETAILS: I just installed RedHat's 7.0 from their distribution CD-ROM
> onto a
> system already having Windows 2000 on an NTFS partition. Using
> Partition Magic, I appropriately partitioned the (IDE) hard drive,
> keeping the Win2K system partition sufficiently small that I could
> set up a Linux /boot partition still within the 1024 cylinder limit
> (and set up Linux swap and root partitions). I used a graphical mode
> installation with Custom setup -- NOT Workstation -- and when
> prompted did create the Linux boot floppy. The entire RH
> installation went without incident. In short, so far as I am aware,
> I did everything right.
>
> Yes, I did reset the BIOS to boot first again from floppy. During
> startup, the PC does check the floppy, but it apparently ignores it
> and just goes ahead and boots Windows 2000 anyway.
>
> So of course I cannot complete the procedure described in the
> "NT OS Loader + Linux mini-HOWTO" of peeling the
> bootsector from the Linux boot partition (and then putting it onto the
> C:\ Windows 2K partition along with the usual editing of
> c:/boot.ini.
>
> Your help will be much appreciated. Please do NOT, however, describe
> alternative approaches of putting Lilo onto the MBR or of inserting a
> small FAT partition at the start of the hard drive with some 3rd party
> loader, etc. I want to keep NT loader on the MBR, keep just the NTFS
> Win2K partition for that OS, and in general take the approach as
> documented in the above-mentioned mini-HOWTO.
>
> --
> Murray Eisenberg Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Mathematics & Statistics Dept. Voice: 413-545-2859 (W)
> University of Massachusetts 413-549-1020 (H)
> Amherst, MA 01003 Fax: 413-545-1801
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From: "Gary Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake install / upgrade woes
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 01:50:30 -0600
I had a previously existing configuration of 3 SCSI elite 9's in an external
case connected via an Adaptec 2906 (at IRQ 10), an IBM 9GB Ultra2SCSI drive
(boot drive/partition), a SCSI Toshiba CD-ROM, and an AWIA 20GB SCSI Tape
Backup (all connected internally) via an Adaptec 2940UW (IRQ 12). The only
other cards in the system are the Network Card (IRQ 4) and the Video Card
(IRQ 11). Note: the IDE Controller was disabled in CMOS while I had this
configuration working.
Since then I have added 3 cheap 10GB IDE drives to the on-board IDE
controller and enabled it in CMOS (IRQ 14/15). Now when I boot from the
Mandrake (7.0, 7.1, or 7.2) CD to run the installation, it detects the 3 IDE
drives and the hangs while scanning the SCSI bus. If I disable both the IDE
channels in the CMOS and reboot it proceeds throught the scan and will
continue the installation process.
Any ideas?
TIA
--
Gary Morgan
Im not schizophrenic...
...and neither am I.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Debian potato, video acceleration
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 20:57:13 -0800
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:05:29 GMT, jdbow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have Debian 2.2 installed on my Pentium 800 machine with a Matrox
>G400 Max. I am attempting to get some kind of OpenGL acceleration
>going, using Xfree86 3.3.6, but the default install did not use
>utah-glx, which is what I am familiar with in getting this card
>accelerated.
> The utah-glx installs that I have tried from woody do not work -- the X
>server crashes (dies) when I attempt to use KDE's or gnome's 3D
>screensavers. With the old mesa install, these worked but VERY slowly.
>Is my only option to compile Mesa and utah-glx myself?
> Any help on this would be much appreciated. Thanks.
>
>Jonathan Bowman
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Have you checked out what X4 offers for acceleration? There are reasonably
good deb packages now for X4 on the unstable tree (woody).
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HD off after boot - possible??
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 03:35:14 -0500
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000, Juho L�nnblad wrote:
>"moonie;)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti viestiss�
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Fri, 01 Dec 2000, Juho L�nnblad wrote:
>> >> Actually putting the HD's to sleep is not a good thing. The hardest
>thing
>> >on a
>> >> HD is when it spins up/down. Having a drive go into "sleep" mode and
>then
>> >> "wake up" over and over will shorten the drives life.
>> >> --
>> >> moonie ;)
>> >>
>> >> Registered Linux User #175104
>> >> http://counter.li.org
>> >
>> >Agreed, but my point is exactly to avoid that: I don't want to completely
>> >shut down the machine, because otherwise I'd need another machine running
>> >the "router". I want to be able to put the machine in a "sleep mode" so
>that
>> >the HD spins off and STAYS THAT WAY but the routing, forwarding and
>> >masquerading keep working. For example, when I would normally shut down
>the
>> >machine (and the drive would spin off) I just put it to this "sleep mode"
>> >instead.
>> >
>> >The problem is, I don't know if it is possible to do it in style, that
>is,
>> >so that I don't need to reboot to another version of kernel. Maybe by
>just
>> >configuring one runlevel properly??
>> >
>> >And yes, I know that it would be propably best for the HD to just let it
>run
>> >all the time. I don't care - I work in that room and I hate the noise. If
>it
>> >shortens the life span of the drive a bit, then so be it, the noise
>shortens
>> >mine... :)
>> >
>> >--Juho
>>
>> If you really want to spin down the drive you can (I REALLY DON'T
>reccomend it
>> though) with the hdparm -S switch, just be sure you don't have anything
>that
>> accesses the drive (cron, etc) or it will just spin back up. If all this
>box
>> is doing is routing your net connection, a 486 (with no fan) and Coyote
>Linux
>> on a floppy will make NO noise (no HD needed) and it works very well (you
>> might even get away with removing the PS fan, if your brave). Do "man
>hdparm"
>> and read about the -S switch. Good luck.
>> --
>> moonie ;)
>>
>Thanks a lot, I really appeciate your feedback. I agree that using a surplus
>486 (I have one) would be the smart thing to do. But removing the PS fan
>would risk a fire (in theory, anyway) and I don't want to do that.
>
>One last question: I've tried shutting down just about everything but the
>drive spins up after about 5 minutes and does something which sounds a lot
>like sychronizing the swap. Is there a way to temporarily shut down virtual
>memory or switch it to a ram disk?
>
>--Juho
Early on in my Linux persuit I though it would be a good idea to spin down
drives as well but was never able to keep them from spinning back up due to
cron/loging/and such.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
http://counter.li.org
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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