Linux-Setup Digest #197, Volume #20 Sun, 10 Dec 00 23:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Major and Minor numbers (Colin Watson)
Re: Does Linux need a maths coprocessor? (Juergen Pfann)
Re: mount points (Gary Sandine)
Re: help (Noble Pepper)
Re: Linux Installation (Christopher Booth)
Deleting Root Account For Gnome (Dwaine Garden)
Java and Apache (john slimick)
Re: Rebuild Boot Sector? (Rand Simberg)
Re: Alt, Meta X and RH7 (Sven Mascheck)
Re: Trying to port a hacked CMI8330 audio setup from RH6.2 to Potato... (Michael V.
Ferranti)
Lazy ("Robert Vogel")
Re: mount points ("Peter T. Breuer")
Trouble with SHM -- filetype not supported? (Homer J. Fong)
Gnome Desktop (Jay&Shell)
help with recompiling kernel 2.2.16-22 in RedHat 7 (Hung Ngoc Lai)
Re: Backup using KDat ("Gene Heskett")
Re: kde2 (Markus Kossmann)
Re: Lazy (Stanislaw Flatto)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Major and Minor numbers
Date: 11 Dec 2000 00:41:17 GMT
JC Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can someone please explain to me how major and minor numbers are applied in
>/dev entries? What does each represent? I can't see a pattern in them
>that would seem to explain their application.
The canonical reference is in the kernel source:
linux/Documentation/devices.txt. Major numbers typically identify groups
of similar devices (e.g. all IDE hard disks), while minor numbers
typically identify instances of such devices (e.g. individual IDE hard
disks or partitions on those disks).
HTH,
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Racism is generally the last refuge of the unimportant."
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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux need a maths coprocessor?
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:38:11 +0100
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Scottty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have been trying to install Linux on a 486SX laptop (8 mgs RAM)
> > LOADLIN gives the message that there is no math coprocessor or
> > emulation, then says "Giving up" - and the machine hangs. I have to
> > pull out the battery to reboot it.
>
> I don't think loadlin needs floating point! Must be your kernel.
> Recompile it so it doesn't depend on a hardware floating point
> coprocessor.
>
I agree with that. The kernel absolutely needs floating point math -
be it by the coprocessor on all CPUs with 80486 DX and up, or, on
80486 SX and 80386, by SW emulation.
> > Is there a way around this problem? Or is "giving up" really the only
>
> NO. Going to the linux laptops page on the web and reading what other
> people have to say about your model would seem to be your starter for
> 10 ...
>
> Peter
You should compile a custom kernel *with math emulation support*
on another box and put that on an installation floppy instead of
the not working one. Then you should be able to install.
Juergen Pfann
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From: Gary Sandine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mount points
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:04:22 GMT
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey! I wrote it above! (drivel or not). You're quoting wrong.
Why so hostile, Peter? Can you give me a necessary and sufficient
condition for a normed linear space to be a Banach space?
Geez - why is it that brains turn off in the face of abstract
mathematics?! (I am making a (ludicrous) assertion parallel to
yours, no?)
We build GNU/Linux boxes for many folks interested in exploring
Linux for the first time. HOWTO's are not helpful when there
are questions such as, "OK - so with multiple partitions, I'll
c:, d:, e:, etc. drives, right?" Questions which I think are
reasonable.
Here are our recommendations for the casual user, rather than
for the "computer scientist", whom I ask for help.
Place 20 meg /boot at front of drive. Then (usually) comes a
dos partition for MS Win. Next a swap partition (size depends
upon intended system usage). The rest of the drive will be an
"extended" partition, divided up among /, /usr/local, and /home.
This allows for you to wipe your Linux install (lives in /boot
and /) when you upgrade or change distros in the future, while
keeping your added software (in /usr/local) and your personal
files (in /home). Sizes of course depend upon intended system
usage.
An answer to the stupid question above is that every absolutely
convergent series converges. Are there others? :)
http://www.lanm-pc.com (Cheap Linux boxes)
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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:08:48 -0600
Louis Hajjar wrote:
> Hello to all,
>
> I'm planing to change my server from windows server to Linux.
> any one know where I can find a good material to read from the net for
> starting a server, how to setup ftp , www, and to handle adding user's
> and firewall and so on....
>
> thanks for your time
>
>
>
> Louis Hajjar
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
www.linuxdoc.org
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From: Christopher Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Installation
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:04:29 +1100
I think if you install Red Hat as server only option, it doesn't install
a GUI from memory.
Best option is custom.
If so, go back and do an update install and maybe choose the default or
development option.
Cheers
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From: Dwaine Garden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Deleting Root Account For Gnome
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:14:46 GMT
I'm trying to delete the root configuration files for Gnome.
The file seems to be corrupt and will not load the MC. I tried with
another user account and everything works on.
Could someone tell me where the hell is the configuration for Gnome.
I would also, like to see what happened to the configuration file.
Thanks..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (john slimick)
Subject: Java and Apache
Date: 11 Dec 2000 01:37:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, I admit it. I've looked
high and low for those simple
instructions to make Java visible
to my Apache browser. I'm tired
of getting core dumps every time
there is some Java in the
incoming frame. Yes, some might
consider core dump for every
applet as a security feature,
but I'm tired of losing
about a third of all the pages
I access. I've looked in
the FAQ's and in the HOWTO's,
but have been unsuccessfull.
Can anyone steer me to where
the information is?
Thanks in advance.
john slimick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg)
Subject: Re: Rebuild Boot Sector?
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:49:11 GMT
On Sat, 09 Dec 2000 21:33:58 GMT, in a place far, far away,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg) made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:
>I was doing some work on my machine (moving some cards around among
>the PCI slots), and apparently had a minor disaster. When I tried to
>reboot it, it acted weird and couldn't find my hard drive. When I
>went into the BIOS, it had somehow become reset to all the defaults
>(or to just everthing disabled--I'm not sure that it was the
>defaults). After restoring everything to where I thought it had been
>the last time it was running properly (including setting the HD
>parameters to auto detection), I rebooted again. This time it found
>the hard drive, but when it started to run LILO, it printe "LI_ "
>(where the underscore represents a blinking cursor).
>
>I couldn't get past the "LI_". I booted with a floppy, and it then
>said to hit return if I wanted to load from hda5. Sounded good to me,
>so I did. It seemed to boot OK, except it came up in 2.2.15 (which is
>probably what was on the boot disk), and my nominal installation is
>2.2.16. After fully booting up the system with the kernel mismatch
>(including X), I ran LILO just to see if that might fix it. I
>rebooted again, with the same results--"LI_".
>
>Since the hard drive seems to be functional, and it just can't boot,
>what happened? Did my boot sector get munged, and if so, how do I
>repair it?
Never mind. It turned out I needed a new MB.
Works like a champ now...
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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Alt, Meta X and RH7
Date: 11 Dec 2000 02:58:17 +0100
Mark Charsley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Outside of X my redhat 7 machine reconises my left-hand Alt key as Meta
> [...] Inside X however it's recognised as Alt.
All this would match *much* better in an X11 group -> f'up
> - how do I convince XFree86 v4, Sawfish and/or Gnome that my left Alt key
> is the Meta key?
I don't know about an XFree86(V4) specific way, so if there's none:
Use xmodmap or xkeycaps.
Pay attention that both
- your Key needs the right KeySym (verify with 'xev' or 'xkeycaps')
- that it must be registered as a logical X11-modifier
(fast: see the output of 'xmodmap' without args).
Don't lay several Keys on one logical X11-modifier and vice versa.
> - is it a good idea to do so, or is there a good reason why the default
> setup is how it is?
There should be no problem at all with reconfiguring.
(But I don't know about the reason for the default.)
To stay on the safe side:
- lay meta (i.e. 'Meta_L' or 'Meta_R' on the logical
X11-modifier mod1.
- configure another still free key with Alt.
See the good documentation of xkeycaps (or for some more explanations:
<URL:http://www.uni-ulm.de/~s_smasch/X11/Xmodmap>, sort of compressed).
f'up
Sven
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From: Michael V. Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Trying to port a hacked CMI8330 audio setup from RH6.2 to Potato...
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:04:29 +0000
And Michael V. Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>I still can't figure out what's going wrong with these damned sb.o
>settings. <grins> Probably a typo my 3:00am eyesight is missing.
Update: Finally found the blasted problem. It was my 3:00am eyesight
after all. I forgot a '0x' in '0x220' in modules.conf. <grins>
-- Michael V. Ferranti [blades&inreach*com]
Linux Counter Reg.ID# 177869 http://counter.li.org GNUke The Planet!
Sign The Linux Driver Petition: www.libralinux.com/petition.english.html
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From: "Robert Vogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lazy
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:10:05 -0500
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mount points
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:44:51 GMT
Gary Sandine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hey! I wrote it above! (drivel or not). You're quoting wrong.
> Why so hostile, Peter? Can you give me a necessary and sufficient
> condition for a normed linear space to be a Banach space?
Err, a banach space is a normed space with the completeness
axiom, isn't it? Sorry - my functional analysis is 20 years in the
past. But what you're asking is for every bounded sequence to have
a limit, and that sounds remarkably like local compactness. I wonder
if I can force local compactness in some obvious way ... well, the
unit ball being compact is enough. That's clearly releated to having
"enough points" (or not too many open sets). In a linear space you
get a lot of points for free just by doing linear displacements and
recombinations. What happens if the linear space is
infinite-dimensional? Oh, that seems OK, because a Hilbert space
is a Banach space, and it's usually infinite dimensional, and it
has a norm. Has to .. it has an inner product. Nevertheless, I can't
help feeling that a countable basis might be a useful asset for local
compactness!
> Geez - why is it that brains turn off in the face of abstract
> mathematics?! (I am making a (ludicrous) assertion parallel to
> yours, no?)
Well, they don't. I at least hope I'm capable of thinking coherently
about it, if only I could remember the definitions!
> We build GNU/Linux boxes for many folks interested in exploring
> Linux for the first time. HOWTO's are not helpful when there
You are saying that they don't answer the Why? Just the How(To)?
That's not the case for the Partition HOWTO! It tells you exactly
what you need to know about partitioning in order to make up your own
mind!
> are questions such as, "OK - so with multiple partitions, I'll
> c:, d:, e:, etc. drives, right?" Questions which I think are
> reasonable.
???
> Here are our recommendations for the casual user, rather than
> for the "computer scientist", whom I ask for help.
> Place 20 meg /boot at front of drive. Then (usually) comes a
Fair enough, but not necessary, and completely impossible for the
L-user who already has a win partition there and can't figure what to
do about it.
> dos partition for MS Win. Next a swap partition (size depends
I agree with you, as it happens. This is good and correct layout.
> upon intended system usage). The rest of the drive will be an
> "extended" partition, divided up among /, /usr/local, and /home.
Again, I agree. Except that /usr and /var are very good ideas!
/usr because it keeps / small (and hence you can keep an extra copy
around) and /var becuase it keeps / practically readonly.
> This allows for you to wipe your Linux install (lives in /boot
> and /) when you upgrade or change distros in the future, while
> keeping your added software (in /usr/local) and your personal
> files (in /home). Sizes of course depend upon intended system
> usage.
And mixing /var and / allows you to wipe your linux distro in other and
more unforeseen ways!
> An answer to the stupid question above is that every absolutely
> convergent series converges. Are there others? :)
Oh .. is that all?
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Homer J. Fong)
Subject: Trouble with SHM -- filetype not supported?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 02:53:02 GMT
I'm having trouble using the SHM filesystem in kernel 2.4.0-test10.
I have the following line in my /etc/fstab:
none /dev/shm shm defaults 0 0
When I try to mount /dev/shm (as root) I get the following message:
mount: fs type shm not supported by kernel
and the mount fails. Anyone know what the problem could be? I
don't think there is a config option related to SHM, so why isn't
the fs supported? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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From: Jay&Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gnome Desktop
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:35:22 GMT
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
How do I get rid of the CLOCK in Gnome? I want to run an applet clock instead.
<br>
<br> </html>
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From: Hung Ngoc Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with recompiling kernel 2.2.16-22 in RedHat 7
Date: 11 Dec 2000 03:32:59 GMT
Hi Everyone,
I am in desparate help. I am having problem with recompiling kernel
2.2.16-22 (the one that comes with RedHat 7) and it does not work.
I change the Makefile in /usr/src/linux from gcc to kgcc; however,
that still doesn't work. I recompile the kernel twice and these are
the two different error messages I got each time:
Please help me. Thanks.
*******************************************************************
ERROR #1
[root@localhost linux]# make bzImage
scripts/split-include include/linux/autoconf.h include/config
kgcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-fr
ame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2
-malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 -c -o init/main.o init/main.c
kgcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-fr
ame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2
-malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 -DUTS_MACHINE='"i386"' -c -o init/ve
rsion.o init/version.c
make -C kernel
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
kgcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-fr
ame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2
-malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c signal.c
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h:50,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/module.h:19,
from signal.c:10:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:6: warning: `cpu_data' redefin
ed
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/processor.h:96: warning: this is the location of the pr
evious definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:28: warning: `smp_num_cpus' re
defined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:77: warning: this is the location of the previo
us definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:118: warning: `smp_call_functi
on' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:83: warning: this is the location of the previo
us definition
kgcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-fr
ame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2
-malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c ksyms.c
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h:50,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/module.h:19,
from ksyms.c:14:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:6: warning: `cpu_data' redefin
ed
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/processor.h:96: warning: this is the location of the pr
evious definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:28: warning: `smp_num_cpus' re
defined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:77: warning: this is the location of the previo
us definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:118: warning: `smp_call_functi
on' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:83: warning: this is the location of the previo
us definition
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:51,
from ksyms.c:21:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/hardirq.h:23: warning: `synchronize_irq' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:138: warning: this is the loca
tion of the previous definition
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:52,
from ksyms.c:21:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/softirq.h:75: warning: `synchronize_bh' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:142: warning: this is the loca
tion of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h: In function `kstat_irqs':
In file included from ksyms.c:17:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: `smp_num_cpus' undeclared (first us
e in this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: (Each undeclared identifier is repo
rted only once
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: for each function it appears in.)
make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2
[root@localhost linux]#
****************************************************
ERROR #2
rm -f lib.a
ar rcs lib.a errno.o ctype.o string.o vsprintf.o
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/lib'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/lib'
make -C arch/i386/kernel
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/kernel'
touch: /usr/src/linux/include/asm/atomic.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [/usr/src/linux/include/asm/atomic.h] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/kernel'
make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/kernel] Error 2
[root@localhost linux]#
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Date: 10 Dec 2000 22:39:33 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backup using KDat
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Daniel Ma;
DM> I am trying to use KDat to do the backup. But it said no tape.
DM> However, I could backup using command "tar -cvf /dev/nst0 ...".
DM> I think I should change the device in backup tool, but don't know
DM> which device under /dev is the tape drive. Is it nst0? But I
DM> could not choose it. I am using HP LH4 with internal DLT tape
DM> drive.
If this is the KDat from the KDE 1.1.2 distro, wipe it, or fix it. I've
tried just about every method known to man to make it see a scsi dat
drive here and have never seen any message from it but that one.
Cheers, Gene
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kde2
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:59:14 +0100
Linux-Scene Webmaster wrote:
>
> hi friends
>
> i have installed kde 2 with the following packeges but it doesn't run
>
> qt 2.2.2 (als i386, devel, extention, man, static)
> liblcms
> libmng
> kdelibs
> kdesupport
> kdebase (als i386, ksysguard, nsplugin)
>
> if if enter startkde it stops at can't connect to x-server
>
> what is wrong in my configuration?
Nothing, but your startup procedure is wrong. Try "startx startkde" to
start also your Xserver.
--
Markus Kossmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lazy
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:05:08 +0000
Robert Vogel wrote:
> OK. I admit it. I do not want to spend a lot of time configuring
> Linux. Tell me who, if anybody, sells Linux fully configured so that
> the OS is properly installed, there are a complete complement of
> devices (including SoundBlaster, CD, DVD, CD/RW). GCC, Xwindows,
> emacs, and applications are installed on a working machine. Is that
> asking too much ? Thanks for any information that you may have.
And which OS does all those things without you lifting a
finger????????????
And what machine.?
Most of us went Linux to escape an OS which promissed but did not
deliver.
Rethink your attitude and welcome to Linux-land.
--
Stanislaw
Linux counter No.162760
Slak user from Ulladulla.
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