Linux-Setup Digest #350, Volume #20 Fri, 5 Jan 01 08:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: [Help] Problems with network and remote X apps (patrick.thempel)
Re: Plea for help with booting. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Plea for help with booting. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LILO boots only linux ("troost")
Re: Plea for help with booting. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Plea for help with booting. (Eric)
Re: LILO boots only linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Plea for help with booting. (Eric)
Re: LILO boots only linux (Eric)
Re: LILO boots only linux ("troost")
Re: Suse 7.0; Yast2, kinternet, rc.dialout und ich komme nicht ins (Peter
Schulz-Kraus)
Missing mathlib (Charles Packer)
R: Remote PPP control ("Davide")
R: Telnet into Mandrake 7.2 box ("Davide")
Re: Plea for help with booting. ("troost")
Re: LILO boots only linux ("troost")
Re: Plea for help with booting. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
LiLo messed up ("cherberos")
linux-2.4.0 ("maurits")
Re: can't telnet to linux box (Michael Heiming)
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From: patrick.thempel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: [Help] Problems with network and remote X apps
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 11:32:17 GMT
In article <TJX46.114029$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Dan White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?=
> Manuel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ben=EDtez=20S=E1nchez?="
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
> This sounds very much like a resolv problem. Try adding your own
> IP/host and those of the other systems to your /etc/hosts file, and
make
> sure you have valid nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf.
>
> - Dan White
>
i experience the same problems with a new compiled 2.2.18 kernel,
dec21143 driver compiled into the kernel (no module).
network works fine in the beginning,
but dies somehow-
i have to ifconfig eth0 down and up to have it working again.
i found out with some smbmount and filecopy (konqueror), so i thought
its maybe the kde2 or the smbfs not working properly.
havent tested a lot yet.
i maybe will switch back to 2.2.16 for a while, and await the 2.4.1 or
2.4.2 kernel releases.
--
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to learn from yugoslavia is to learn
howto respect the vote of the people.
the big roundeye across the big sea should meditate on this.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Plea for help with booting.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 11:33:59 GMT
Okay, sorry about the length of the post. Here's a briefer version:
I have installed Linux Mandrake, and it changed the master boot record
so that it boots to the GRUB bootloader. I believe that something I did
later in trying to fix it may have caused it to write that boot record
onto my DOS/Windows partition as well (although I am not sure about
this). I want to change it back so that it automatically boots the
DOS/Windows partition the way it did before I installed Linux. Can
someone tell me how to do this?
Any help will be appreciated. If you need more specific information,
please ask me or refer to my original post. I would be very grateful for
any help anyone could give.
--lichen.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I for sure don't have the time to read all this.
> Specify your problem thorough but briefly, if you want any help.
>
> Eric
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Plea for help with booting.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 11:36:03 GMT
Thankyou very much. I'll try that now and tell you of the results. I
didn't know that switch.
--lichen.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bolivia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about booting from a windows floppy then when you get to the A:
prompt
> type fdisk /MBR. You can then boot windows automatically and use a
linux
> boot floppy if you want to boot linux.
>
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From: "troost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO boots only linux
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 11:51:51 GMT
Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > From my understanding of what he's said, he has win9x, but it won't
> > boot. That's the problem. If he could boot to Win, Loadlin would be an
> > option, but he can't so it's not (until he gets Windows booting okay, so
> > back to square 1).
>
> Then either one of us misunderstood.
> He boots linux through a floppy and windows from the HDD.
> That's what I understand from the problem.
>
> If that's is not what Maarten meant, loadlin is no solution indeed.
>
> > Can you get Win9x to load from a Win9x boot disk? I know this isn't a
> > solution, but it's what I'm using as a stop-gap measure (I'm having a
> > somewhat similar difficulty, see my post "plea for help with booting" or
> > something like that).
> >
>
> Yes I've seen that post, it's way to much text, I will not even begin
> reading it.
>
> Eric
yo
first of all, Sorry for not being explicit enough in specifying the problem.
I indeed CANNOT boot from HD, really nothing -> not a system, insert system
floppy or somthing like that. The only way i can boot is with that 1 floppy
(made through the installation of suse) which let me do the lilo boot and
only accepts linux for good. i can touch the win files when mounting the
vfat in linux. Just like lichen_dragon said...
I can boot from a win98 recoverydisk and reach just the command.com. The c:
is then ready to use. But if i ant to start win the system halts because of
some trouble with the vfat. I have seen other people reportng this as a
common feature.
lba32
this is to enable booting with more than 1024 cylinders
install=/dev/boot-menu.b
menu-title="suse"
these are to provide a menu. Those lines came from the suse site and should
be
placed in the general section, which i hope is right on top of the file :-|
All docs talk about just exceuting lilo to make things work. Well i did and
its still the same : i cannot start from HD. Put it in the MBR! Ok, how?
None
of the docs said something explicit about how to do that, except for : run
lilo.
running /sbin/lilo -C - -b /dev/fd0 -v -v -v
as marked in the manual on /usr/share/docs/packages/lilo
always stuck. I have to type 2 keystrokes(a,q) before he stops. He didnt
even
touched the floppy!!
LILO version 21.6, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
Linux Real Mode Interface library Copyright (C) 1998 Josh Vanderhoof
Development beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2000 John Coffman
Released 04-Oct-2000 and compiled at 10:37:22 on Nov 30 2000.
a
q
Reading boot sector from /dev/fd0
Merging with /boot/boot.b
Device 0x0305: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 1655 cylinders,
63 sectors. Partition offset: 20482938
warning: device 0x0305 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
geo_comp_addr : cylinder is too big (1275 > 1024)
So how can i make a good boot disk, and best of all how can i make it start
from HD, with the win system available.
I saw that fdisk /mbr could fix up the mbr for a dos partition. All dos
books went silent on that topic, it looks like i dont even exist. Is it a
myth or is it an unsupported feature? Is it safe to use , does it destroy
yer partitions, ... ?
I feel were coming closer to a solution. Thnx for everyone to help me.
Sorry lichen_dragon i cant help you, i dont even understand it all but i
think i would feel more comfortable in your possition.
Maarten Troost
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Plea for help with booting.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 11:57:07 GMT
That didn't seem to do anything, unfortunately.
What, precisely, does fdisk /MBR do? I tried it from both the a: and c:
prompts (restarting after each one) and neither seemed to change
anything.
What it sounds like is that fdisk /MBR will write the current master
boot record to... somewhere. Where is that? Do I have to specify the
source or target MBR? Whatever the reason, it didn't seem to do
anything. Can I find the man page for fdisk somewhere on the 'net?
I just realised that I left out one development. I don't know whether
it's important or not. When I choose "windows" from the GRUB prompt, it
starts typing "01 01 01 01 01 01 01" and looks like it'll go on
endlessly.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bolivia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about booting from a windows floppy then when you get to the A:
prompt
> type fdisk /MBR. You can then boot windows automatically and use a
linux
> boot floppy if you want to boot linux.
>
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plea for help with booting.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 13:14:12 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Thankyou very much. I'll try that now and tell you of the results. I
> didn't know that switch.
Don't use this, unless you have a bootfloppy for linux.
You will not be able to boot anything after this.
> > How about booting from a windows floppy then when you get to the A:
> prompt
> > type fdisk /MBR. You can then boot windows automatically and use a
> linux
> > boot floppy if you want to boot linux.
> >
>
It's not the MBR you hosed, but the bootsector of hda1
Eric
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO boots only linux
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:08:00 +0100
troost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[reams of useless text deleted]
> Reading boot sector from /dev/fd0
> Merging with /boot/boot.b
> Device 0x0305: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 1655 cylinders,
> 63 sectors. Partition offset: 20482938
> warning: device 0x0305 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
> geo_comp_addr : cylinder is too big (1275 > 1024)
That's completely clear, isn't it? DON'T DO THAT. Your boot partition
is too big. What's your problem?
If you want to boot from above the 1024 cyl mark, read the lilo docs
and see what you have to do. You will have to remove the linear option
(probably) and add lba32 to your lilo.conf. Then you'll have to hope
that your bios supports that call.
But the real answer is: Don't Do That. Make a SMALL boot partition. Put
it somewhere universally accessible.
Peter
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plea for help with booting.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 13:19:15 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Okay, sorry about the length of the post. Here's a briefer version:
> I have installed Linux Mandrake, and it changed the master boot record
> so that it boots to the GRUB bootloader. I believe that something I did
> later in trying to fix it may have caused it to write that boot record
> onto my DOS/Windows partition as well (although I am not sure about
> this). I want to change it back so that it automatically boots the
> DOS/Windows partition the way it did before I installed Linux. Can
> someone tell me how to do this?
> Any help will be appreciated. If you need more specific information,
> please ask me or refer to my original post. I would be very grateful for
> any help anyone could give.
This is more like it,
Unfortunately I don't know GRUB very well.
I do know that LILO first copies the original bootsector it overwrites
to a file.
That way by running lilo with the -u switch, you can restore the old
situation.
I do not know if GRUB has such a feature (It should)
With LILO would need to look in /boot for a file named boot.0301
Check /boot for a file like this. The size will be 512 bytes exactly, or
446 bytes exactly.
(Depends if the partitiontable is copied too)
If it exists, use the -u switch equivalent of grub, or dd it back (Be
carefull)
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO boots only linux
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 13:26:41 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
troost wrote:
>
> Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > From my understanding of what he's said, he has win9x, but it won't
> > > boot. That's the problem. If he could boot to Win, Loadlin would be an
> > > option, but he can't so it's not (until he gets Windows booting okay, so
> > > back to square 1).
> >
> > Then either one of us misunderstood.
> > He boots linux through a floppy and windows from the HDD.
> > That's what I understand from the problem.
> >
> > If that's is not what Maarten meant, loadlin is no solution indeed.
> >
> > > Can you get Win9x to load from a Win9x boot disk? I know this isn't a
> > > solution, but it's what I'm using as a stop-gap measure (I'm having a
> > > somewhat similar difficulty, see my post "plea for help with booting" or
> > > something like that).
> > >
> >
> > Yes I've seen that post, it's way to much text, I will not even begin
> > reading it.
> >
> > Eric
>
> yo
>
> first of all, Sorry for not being explicit enough in specifying the problem.
> I indeed CANNOT boot from HD, really nothing -> not a system, insert system
> floppy or somthing like that. The only way i can boot is with that 1 floppy
> (made through the installation of suse) which let me do the lilo boot and
> only accepts linux for good. i can touch the win files when mounting the
> vfat in linux. Just like lichen_dragon said...
> I can boot from a win98 recoverydisk and reach just the command.com. The c:
> is then ready to use. But if i ant to start win the system halts because of
> some trouble with the vfat. I have seen other people reportng this as a
> common feature.
>
> lba32
> this is to enable booting with more than 1024 cylinders
> install=/dev/boot-menu.b
> menu-title="suse"
> these are to provide a menu. Those lines came from the suse site and should
> be
> placed in the general section, which i hope is right on top of the file :-|
Okay, just use the lilo.conf file I gave you.
It's pretty general.
Use it and have fun.
> All docs talk about just exceuting lilo to make things work. Well i did and
> its still the same : i cannot start from HD. Put it in the MBR! Ok, how?
> None
> of the docs said something explicit about how to do that, except for : run
> lilo.
>
> running /sbin/lilo -C - -b /dev/fd0 -v -v -v
> as marked in the manual on /usr/share/docs/packages/lilo
> always stuck. I have to type 2 keystrokes(a,q) before he stops. He didnt
> even
> touched the floppy!!
>
> LILO version 21.6, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
> Linux Real Mode Interface library Copyright (C) 1998 Josh Vanderhoof
> Development beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2000 John Coffman
> Released 04-Oct-2000 and compiled at 10:37:22 on Nov 30 2000.
>
> a
> q
>
> Reading boot sector from /dev/fd0
> Merging with /boot/boot.b
> Device 0x0305: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 1655 cylinders,
> 63 sectors. Partition offset: 20482938
> warning: device 0x0305 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
> geo_comp_addr : cylinder is too big (1275 > 1024)
>
> So how can i make a good boot disk, and best of all how can i make it start
> from HD, with the win system available.
> I saw that fdisk /mbr could fix up the mbr for a dos partition. All dos
> books went silent on that topic, it looks like i dont even exist. Is it a
> myth or is it an unsupported feature? Is it safe to use , does it destroy
> yer partitions, ... ?
It's an unsuppported feature, though you need a recent FDISK.EXE or else
it won't be supported.
Just try it. It will not destroy the partitions, just rewrite the MBR
bootcode
Eric
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From: "troost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO boots only linux
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:29:33 GMT
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> troost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [reams of useless text deleted]
> > Reading boot sector from /dev/fd0
> > Merging with /boot/boot.b
> > Device 0x0305: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 1655 cylinders,
> > 63 sectors. Partition offset: 20482938
> > warning: device 0x0305 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit
> > geo_comp_addr : cylinder is too big (1275 > 1024)
>
> That's completely clear, isn't it? DON'T DO THAT. Your boot partition
> is too big. What's your problem?
>
> If you want to boot from above the 1024 cyl mark, read the lilo docs
> and see what you have to do.
I did several times and tryd to understand ...
>You will have to remove the linear option
> (probably) and add lba32 to your lilo.conf
As stated in previous postings i have done that
>. Then you'll have to hope
> that your bios supports that call.
bios is award 4.51pg (1998). i checked for upgrades and they only have a
windows program for the 4.50
>
> But the real answer is: Don't Do That. Make a SMALL boot partition. Put
> it somewhere universally accessible.
>
> Peter
How do i make it that small? If it always could be that small then this
problem, which is referred by in every doc would not exists. The problem, i
restate, how do u make lilo do the mbr or a disk?
Maarten
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From: Peter Schulz-Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.dial-up,alt.os.linux.suse,cityweb.computer.linux,comp.windows.x.kde,de.comp.os.unix.apps.kde,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Suse 7.0; Yast2, kinternet, rc.dialout und ich komme nicht ins
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 13:22:03 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ralf Breuker wrote:
> (?) fehlt die /etc/rc.dialout, die kinternet gerne h�tte um den
Diese wird normalerweise von YaST2 erstellt.
Lege sie einfach an mit folgendem Inhalt:
MODE="isdn"
DEVICE="ippp0"
Vorausgesetzt, Dein ISDN-Device lautet ippp0 :)
gru�, peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Packer)
Subject: Missing mathlib
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:30:31 GMT
I've been using Red Hat 5.1 all these years and finally got
around to doing some serious C development and...there's no
mathlib.*! So I poked around the Linux website for information
and determined that in more recent releases it's _apparently_ in
package glibc. Could somebody confirm this? If it's there, does
that mean it's probably in glibc in release 5.1 and maybe I
should reinstall that package?
--
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http://www.clark.net/~whatnews
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From: "Davide" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: R: Remote PPP control
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:30:55 GMT
Get diald (dial on demand)
Regards.
"Andrew Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3a4fe253$0$7500$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a home network, using a Redhat62 server with 3 Windoze machines
> connecting. Samba file sharing, printing, ip masq and firewall, all set up
> and working. To activate the modem ( on linux box) I telnet from any other
> machine, login as a user, change to su and run /sbin/ifup ppp0 - this is a
> bit annoying going thru this process each time I want to get out.
> Is it possible to set up the server / ms machines to control the modem,
so
> that I can turn it on/off as required from an icon on the windoze machines
> without having to be root or login to the server?
>
>
>
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From: "Davide" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: R: Telnet into Mandrake 7.2 box
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:30:56 GMT
My Mandrake 7.2 uses xinetd instead of inetd.
Check with ps -eaf and see if inetd or xinetd is running.
If xinetd is running then inetd.conf is ignored, check the file
/etc/xinetd.conf and the directory /etc/xinetd.d
You have to install the telnet server package.
Regards.
"Walter Harms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have set up a Mandrake 7.2 box at work for learing. I have been unable
> to telnet into it from any outside machine. I have updated hosts.deny
> and hosts.allow. I have checked that inetd.conf has telnet uncommented.
> I have made sure that inetd is running. What else should I check? From
> the box itself, and can telnet other machines.
>
> Walter
>
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From: "troost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plea for help with booting.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:36:41 GMT
the 01 01 01 01problem is well know because when i checked this group i
found some posts about it. Please search the group for "lilo"
Either this group or nl.comp.os.linux.install (only if ya know dutch, but u
can always ask for a translation)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
934cqi$aab$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> That didn't seem to do anything, unfortunately.
> What, precisely, does fdisk /MBR do? I tried it from both the a: and c:
> prompts (restarting after each one) and neither seemed to change
> anything.
>
> What it sounds like is that fdisk /MBR will write the current master
> boot record to... somewhere. Where is that? Do I have to specify the
> source or target MBR? Whatever the reason, it didn't seem to do
> anything. Can I find the man page for fdisk somewhere on the 'net?
>
> I just realised that I left out one development. I don't know whether
> it's important or not. When I choose "windows" from the GRUB prompt, it
> starts typing "01 01 01 01 01 01 01" and looks like it'll go on
> endlessly.
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> bolivia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about booting from a windows floppy then when you get to the A:
> prompt
> > type fdisk /MBR. You can then boot windows automatically and use a
> linux
> > boot floppy if you want to boot linux.
> >
>
>
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From: "troost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO boots only linux
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:39:18 GMT
> Okay, just use the lilo.conf file I gave you.
> It's pretty general.
> Use it and have fun.
I cnnot because i dont see the effect of changing that because i boot from
floppy and that indeed isnt changed. Cannot boot from HD!
> > All docs talk about just exceuting lilo to make things work. Well i did
and
> > its still the same : i cannot start from HD. Put it in the MBR! Ok, how?
> > None
> > of the docs said something explicit about how to do that, except for :
run
> > lilo.
> >
> > running /sbin/lilo -C - -b /dev/fd0 -v -v -v
> > as marked in the manual on /usr/share/docs/packages/lilo
> > always stuck. I have to type 2 keystrokes(a,q) before he stops. He didnt
> > even
> > touched the floppy!!
> >
Maarten
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Plea for help with booting.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:29:15 GMT
Hurrah! Thankyouthankyouthankyou. I needed to add a 'sys c:' after the
'fdisk /MBR', and now it's all fixed.
Now I can get on with using Linux without having to worry about what
Windows is doing. :)
Thankyou again. :)
--lichen.
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From: "cherberos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LiLo messed up
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:55:15 GMT
Hi, I've done someting stupid: I moved the startupfiles from LiLo to another
dir. when I was cleaning up my harddrive. When I started up, only two
letters appear: LI_. Can't pass anything to the loader.
Normaly, this wouldn't be such a problem, but in this case, it's a laptop,
and it hasn't a diskdrive, and CDrom is not bootable.
Anyone know some solution to bypass LiLo?
TIA,
Marcel
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From: "maurits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux-2.4.0
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:56:50 +0100
Reply-To: "maurits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ja hij is er (eindelijk)
www.kernel.org
mirrors zijn nog niet allemaal upgedate denk ik.
groeten
Maurits
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't telnet to linux box
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 15:19:50 +0100
wong wrote:
> i have win98 box and redhat 6.0 box. i can ping to redhat 6.0 from win98
> box, but can't telnet to redhat 6.0 box. why ?
>
> ken
Hello,
are you trying to connect as root? This is per default (security) not
allowed.
Is telnetd running on your RH box? Normally started from inetd (look in
your /etc/inetd.conf)
type apropos telnet and read the shown man pages...
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Sysadmin
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