Linux-Setup Digest #390, Volume #20 Wed, 10 Jan 01 07:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: which LINUX to choose (Pete Sauerteig)
sendmail ("Zayin Krige")
Re: How to annoy your arrogant boss using Linux :-) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: kernel-2.4.0 on Linux-Mandrake 7.2 (Luke Newman)
Re: Installing Linux over Win98 ("ID")
RedHad6.1 installation fails! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Kernel 2.4 on RH7 (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: Dumping Novell for Linux (almost).. ("Zayin Krige")
install win95 over linux (Markus Werle)
Re: Procmail ("michael.fengler")
Re: dd command ("michael.fengler")
Re: How do I get my ethernet card going (H.Bruijn)
Re: load modules on bootup (H.Bruijn)
directory become file after mount (Li Hau-Bin)
Re: What is the effect on the kernel when printing( orUSB vs Parallel) (H.Bruijn)
Re: gnome panel question (Keith McGavin)
print to HP Color LaserJet 5 ?? ("B.Y.")
Re: load modules on bootup (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
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From: Pete Sauerteig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,at.linux,ger.pc.linux
Subject: Re: which LINUX to choose
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:14:01 +0100
Bruno Widmann wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, HP Staber wrote:
> >
> >Makes sense. Will try to organize a more recent package - but which
> >distributor ?
> >
>
> Pick one of Debian, Mandrake, Redhat, Slackware or Suse.
>
> What do you wan't to use the system for, what kind of programs do you
> plan to use?
> How much experience do you have with linux / unix?
Non whatsoever. I'm comming from the DOS world and want to give up on
Windoze - eats too much ressources. My main platform is a 96 meg DS
HP200LX palmtop running plain DOS software :)
> Do you like downloading/installing/compiling software your self, or
> do you prefer just using the software that's included in the distribution?
Yes - but no, as I will not have the time availlable to do so.
> Should the distribution include bleeding edge stuff, or be stable and
> well tested?
No need to be the first in an avelanche.
> Do you think your distribution should be 100% free (speech) software?
Yes - it's also for my kid's which might investigate further on.
> Do you prefer GUI configuration wizards, or would you rather understand
> the system you are using and poke around in config files yourself?
In the beginning I'll be comfortable with preinstalled versions and
wizards. Maybe I will catch up with the command line and the configs.
> How important is documentation/consistency for you?
Important but again - no time to read.
> PS next time, please do not crosspost a question into so many groups.
> I consider this impolite. (I removed linux.linux.debian.user because
> that group is _really_ inappropiate for this question)
Yes, sorry. I've picked some groups out of the linux family and now
gradually reduce spreading myself.
HP Staber/Salzburg
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From: "Zayin Krige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sendmail
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:33:10 +0200
I would like to add a sendmail rule to sendmail.cf, but i'm no good at
sendmail ;)
if a message's "To :" line contains more than one recipient, that message
must be recreated for each recipient, with only one recipient on the "To :"
line
how would I do this?
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/*-------------------------------------------
Zayin Krige
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.redpoint.co.za
Redpoint Solutions (Pty) Ltd
Custom Software Solutions
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to annoy your arrogant boss using Linux :-)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:46:48 +0000
On 9 Jan 2001 23:31:39 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Edwards)
wrote:
>
>While my co-workers are pretty cool, our supervisors can be a bit stodgy
>and anal. We don't go out of our way to tick them off, but sometimes they
>just beg for it.
>
>So the worst one of the bunch just doesn't get the whole open-source
>thing, believes that Linux is still being written by one guy in Finland
>and can't possibly be useful, etc, etc. And after I installed Red Hat 7.0
>on my desktop I overheard him muttering under his breath something about
>"punk motherf***ing OS."
>
<snip>
Like it a lot!
--
Regards, Geoff
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From: Luke Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel-2.4.0 on Linux-Mandrake 7.2
Date: 10 Jan 2001 09:43:04 GMT
Filippo Palombi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear all,
> I tried to install kernel 2.4.0 on Linux Mandrake 7.2. I have an Athlon
> Thunderbird 800Mhz, and I have specified the processor in the menuconfig.
> When I give the make command, I get
> ============================================================================
> scripts/split-include include/linux/autoconf.h include/config
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/filippo/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes
> -O2 -fomit-fram
...[SNIP]...
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/string.h: In function `__constant_memcpy3d':
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/string.h:305: `current' undeclared (first
> use in this fu
> nction)
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/string.h: In function `__memcpy3d':
> /home/filippo/linux/include/asm/string.h:312: `current' undeclared (first
> use in this fu
> nction)
> make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1
>
> =========================================================================
> Can anyone tell me what's the problem and how can I overcome it ?
> thanks.
I had exactly the same problem with an Athlon CPU, specified as such during
the configureation phase. When I changed the CPU type to "K6", the
compilation worked fine and I am using the resulting 2.4.0-ac4 kernel with
no problems at all. I have no idea why the compiation fails when the CPU
type is set to "Athlon".
HTH
Luke
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From: "ID" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux over Win98
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:48:37 +0800
yah, use partitionmagic and resize existing partition to create empty space
for linux.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:939e2k$7tq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm trying to install linux in a dual boot config with Win98. There is
> no way for me to backup every thing. Can I safely partition my 20gig HD
> without seriously messing up Windows? Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RedHad6.1 installation fails!
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:03:07 GMT
Hi,
I am trying to install RedHat 6.1 on my new HP LC2000 system but the
installation does not see the hard disks. The error message given
is: "An error has occurred-no valid devices were found on which to
create new file systems. Please check your hardware for the cause of
this problem."; thus the installation fails.
If I try to install Win2000 everything ok. The disks I have on the
machine are: 18.2GB 7200 Ultra3 Wide SCSI-3 HS HDD and 9.1GB 7200
Ultra3 Wide SCSI-3 LVD HDD.
The SCSI controller, which by the way is on the motherboard, is
SYM53C896; by www.symbios.com.
I am almost sure that the problem is that the kernel, I have 2.2.12-20,
does not have the correct SCSI controller driver on it; or rather one
that works.
MY ACTIONS:
===========
My goal is to create a 'driver disk' with a patched device driver for
the controler and provide it to the installation, in expert mode, so
that it can load it.
I have patched the .c files of the driver; got the patch from the
controller manufacturer, and I:
make mrproper
make config
make depend
make
so now I have a new .o file for the controler.
The problem is that I do not know how to make this 'driver disk'. This
'driver disk' has to have an ".img" in it but...
What do I do? How do I get the new driver in the 'driver disk'?
Hope it is clear what my problem is. Thanks for your help.
Any other ideas other than the one I am pursuing?
Regards,
Haris
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http://www.deja.com/
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4 on RH7
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:26:11 +0100
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Scott Nolde wrote:
> Jeff Moore wrote:
> >
> > I have not gotten the kernel to compile with RH7.
> >
> > If I am going to download a kernel, I want the 2.4 version.
> >
> > I assume I will also need a new compiler and libraries.
> >
> > Which compiler and libraries should I get?
> >
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Jeff Moore
>
> I've been able to compile the released 2.4.0 kernel with:
> kgcc-1.1.2-40
> gcc-2.96-54
> gcc-c++-2.96-54
Eh, I got an oops with a kernel compiled with 2.96. So I installed 2.95.2
and use it instead (2.96 also broke compilation of other packages too).
> And you don't need kgcc. What errors are you having? I had multiple
> seg faults during the 'make bzImage' portion, but was able to get a
> kernel image in the end.
Rasmus B�g Hansen
---
He has his own opinions
- just like the others.
-- Burnin' Red Ivanhoe
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From: "Zayin Krige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dumping Novell for Linux (almost)..
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:18:54 +0200
yes it can be done...
try man "mount"
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/*-------------------------------------------
Zayin Krige
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.redpoint.co.za
Redpoint Solutions (Pty) Ltd
Custom Software Solutions
==========================================*/
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:93grv4$oh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello all,
>
> with samba server how to map a drive letter automatically to win9x
> clients??
>
> in novel/netware i would write a login script like:
>
> "net use G: \\samba_server\samba_folder"
>
> can this be done in samba server directly?? if so, i want to dump
> Novell alltogether in favor of Linux.
>
> i appreciate any help.
> regards
> ismet
>
>
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> http://www.deja.com/
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From: Markus Werle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: install win95 over linux
Date: 10 Jan 2001 11:35:26 +0100
The worst case has come:
A linux user (that's me) has to install windows 95
on a disk containing linux.
Situation:
partition #1: linux (40MB)
partition #2: linux (50MB)
partition #3: free for win95 (5GB)
rest : linux (a lot more GB)
I have absolute low experience with products from
braindead-m*cr*hard since the old times with win3.11,
so I better ask before:
Does anyone know whether windows 95 will
let the linux partitions survive during install?
(I am aware of the fact that lilo must be reinstalled
after windows installation)
Is there a secure way to force windows 95
to take partition #3 as drive C: and ignore other
partitions?
linux-fdisk may do some of the job.
Which partition type should be choosed?
Or should I delete the partition completely
Thanks for any hints,
Markus
P.S.: please do not discuss the reasons for installing
win95 after so many years without trouble, but sometimes
life is hard, and we must struggle on for some while ...
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From: "michael.fengler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Procmail
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:12:46 +0100
Reply-To: Michael Fengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Zayin Krige wrote:
>i'll attach my procmailrc, but its not very complicated....
>
>:0 B
>* (vbs")|(chs")|(kagou)|(pif")
>/var/spool/mail/root
>
>:0 E
>* ^TO_.*zayin@redpoint
>/var/spool/mail/zayin
>
>:0 E
>* ^TO_.*daniel@redpoint
>/var/spool/mail/daniel
>
>if i send a message to: zayin@redpoint; daniel@redpoint, zayin will get the
>message twice.
>also, if i send a message to: daniel@redpoint; zayin@redpoint, zayin will
>get the message twice.
I guess the reason for zayin getting both messages is that they both
have the same "To:.*" line and thus get processed by the same rule. Tell
procmail not to "bail out" after a match (IIRC ":0c") and both zayin and
daniel should get two messages... get daniel an account of his own :-)
- mike
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From: "michael.fengler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: dd command
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:22:45 +0100
Reply-To: Michael Fengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, H.A.J. van Niekerk wrote:
>I'm trying to create a driverdiskette from the RH 6.2 CD (netstg2.img to
>be exact) but I wonder how this can be done with the dd command since
>netstg2.img is almost the size of 2 diskettes and I can't figure out how
>to create 2 diskettes with the dd command.
1) dd if=netstg2.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k count=1
2) chande to 2nd floppy
3) dd if=netstg2.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k skip=1
Although I wonder if that is really an acceptable solution...
- mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: How do I get my ethernet card going
Date: 10 Jan 2001 11:26:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:48:02 +1000, David Findlay allegedly wrote:
>I just loaed debian 2.2r2. How do I get the eth0 card going? There is no
>device eth0, so I can't set it up.
>
>How do you do it?
eth0 is a virtual device , it doesn't have an entry in the /dev
directory.
The eth0 device is created at the detection of the network card, so if
you have fi instance a 3com card model 509 you load the module 3c509:
/sbin/modprobe 3c509
The you can configure the network with ifconfig and route.
The make the module load at boot time add it to /etc/modules withe the
command:
echo "3c509 alias eth0" >> /etc/modules
Some network drivers need additional information such as io range or
irq's. That information is stored in /etc/modules.conf
options ne io=0x220 irq=5
which also gets some information from /etc/modutils.
The configuration for netwrok is stored (old style) in /etc/networking
/sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.0.0 broadcast 192.168.255.255
/sbin/route add -net 192.168.0.0
#sometimes there is a default gateway:
/sbin/route add default gw 192.168.1.1
or in /etc/network/interfaces (which is the new style)
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.2.1
network 192.168.0.0
netmask 255.255.0.0
broadcast 192.168.255.255
gateway 192.168.1.1
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If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
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Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: load modules on bootup
Date: 10 Jan 2001 11:29:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:14:12 -0800, Vince Ungaro allegedly wrote:
>How do I load modules (loopback module to be specific) automatically every
>time I boot a red hat client? The modules are there and I can load them
>manually at the command prompt, but I want them to load on their own at
>bootup. Thanks!
add the name of the module to /etc/conf.modules.
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If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
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Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Li Hau-Bin)
Subject: directory become file after mount
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:43:16 +0000 (UTC)
please help me,
i try to mount a zip drive on /mnt/zip
but after i mount /mnt/zip
the directory /mnt/zip become a file
before mount the directory look like:
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Jan 10 12:25 zip/
/dev/hda1 4052132 3266279 576207 85% /
/dev/hda5 8603615 13 8157399 0% /data-a
/dev/hdd5 12873907 529108 11675695 4% /data1
/dev/hdc5 12877498 63220 12144995 1% /data2
after mount the /mnt/zip become a file:
-rwxr-xr-x 0 root root 8746639 Jan 10 03:01 zip*
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 4052132 3266278 576208 85% /
/dev/hda5 8603615 13 8157399 0% /data-a
/dev/hdd5 12873907 528580 11676223 4% /data1
/dev/hdc5 12877498 63220 12144995 1% /data2
/dev/hdb1 95167 13 90240 0% /mnt/zip
what's wrong with this??
can anyone help me please?
thanks
(i use a PIII500 + asus p3bf motherboard,
with a atapi ide 100mb zip drive,
i fail to mount it at the first time,
then i fdisk and format it to ext2,
mount success, but /mnt/zip become a file)
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
lihb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: What is the effect on the kernel when printing( orUSB vs Parallel)
Date: 10 Jan 2001 11:45:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:47:41 GMT, Thaddeus L Olczyk allegedly wrote:
>I've got a new printer which can attach either through USB or parallel
>ports. And a choice to make. From a printer perspective USB is
>marginally better, but I will be build 2.4 soon.
>From that perspective I will be adding in support for USB if I use it
>whereas I think that support for the parallel port is mandatory (
>sorry I could be wrong on this one) which would mean that the kernel
>was a little more bloated. In any case, I'm sure there are different
>preformance caracteristics depending on whether I build it to support
>a USB printer vs a parallel printer. Can anyone explain what they
>would be?
>
>PS
>Yes my mobo has USB on it.
AFAIK both can be compiled as modules, so the kernel bloating is not
really an issue. With the kernel module loading the modules will only be
loaded as long as they are needed.
I'd go for USB.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: Keith McGavin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome panel question
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:51:25 +1300
Hi satansidehands,
try creating a new edge panel by right clicking on the faulty gnome panel
and
selecting "create new panel". It may work properly and then you can delete the
faulty one.
cheers
Keith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello.
> I am unable to save the state of my panel when ever I log out of gnome.
> I put the panel at the bottom of the window and save my session log
> out and upon logging back in the panel is horizontal in the middle of
> the screen. I did accidentally move it their once and now am not able
> to retain the panel placement between sessions. Poked around in .gnome
> dir for a bit but couldnt see anything obvious in the panel files nor in
> panel.d. Any help is appreciated.
> TIA.
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: "B.Y." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: print to HP Color LaserJet 5 ??
Date: 10 Jan 2001 11:58:49 GMT
Hello all:
Can someone recommend a way to print from a Red Hat Linux 6.2
box (mostly stock install) to a HP Color LaserJet 5 (no Postscript, no
network card). Thanks ...
P.S. I seem to be unable to access the relevant pages in the
Linux Printing Project hosted by VA Linux ...
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: load modules on bootup
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:01:20 +0100
On 10 Jan 2001, H.Bruijn wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:14:12 -0800, Vince Ungaro allegedly wrote:
> >How do I load modules (loopback module to be specific) automatically every
> >time I boot a red hat client? The modules are there and I can load them
> >manually at the command prompt, but I want them to load on their own at
> >bootup. Thanks!
>
> add the name of the module to /etc/conf.modules.
On newer distros, it is called /etc/modules.conf (at least newer RedHats).
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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