Linux-Setup Digest #399, Volume #20 Thu, 11 Jan 01 11:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: X Windows Questions (Martin Gregorie)
Re: Caldera versus Red Hat (Stefan Fredriksson)
How To Screen Grab - prntscrn in linux?? (noel mcloughlin)
Timout on telnet connexion : how to remove it ? ("Damien Mangin")
Re: Kernel panic after upgrade from 2.2.16 to 2.2.18 (Eric)
Upgrading glibc using rpm (Pete Lachall)
Re: RSA Securid and Linux. (Donald WHIZZARD Lambert)
Riptide Audio ("Givememore")
Mandrake 7.2 does not shut down properly (Chris Menzel)
Re: Ethernet card setup ("Julio")
Re: How To Screen Grab - prntscrn in linux?? (Eric)
Re: Kernel panic after upgrade from 2.2.16 to 2.2.18 ("wookie")
Re: How To Screen Grab - prntscrn in linux?? ("wookie")
LILO only gettting to L ("Moses")
Re: Kernel panic after upgrade from 2.2.16 to 2.2.18 ("wookie")
Re: setup News server (Steve)
Re: Mandrake 7.2 does not shut down properly (Mawgrath)
nfs problem ("Dave Roberge \(news\)")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie)
Subject: Re: X Windows Questions
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:07:37 GMT
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:30:02 +0100, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Second, on my network I have a Windows box - yeah I know - that I would
>> > like to run an XTerm sometimes - make things easier in a cramped space I
>> > call my computer room. The question is how to tranfer an XTerm session or
>> > bring one up on my Windows machine?
>>
>> there are X clients for windows that allow you to open a remote X
>> session, but I don't remember their names.
>
>You will need an X server on windows, not a client. xterm is the client.
>
>Widely used is exceed, but that's not free. I don' recall the names of
>the free windows X servers either.
>
Two to try are:
PuTTY - http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
NetSarang - http://www.netsarang.com
PuTTY only emulates an X-term text window but it works OK and does
colour coded text. It supports both telnet and ssh protocols
I haven't tried NetSarang yet, but its on my list for when I get a
round tuit. It should do the whole desktop bit. Its not free, but at
$70 per PC its a lot cheaper than Exceed.
>> > Will I be able to run a KDE or Gnome
>> > desktop in that session?
>>
PuTTY won't. NetSarang probably would.
--
gregorie | Martin Gregorie
@logica | Logica Ltd
com | +44 020 76379111
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From: Stefan Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Caldera versus Red Hat
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:08:19 GMT
Robert Morelli wrote:
> I'd like to gather some opinions regarding the relative merits of
> Caldera versus Red Hat.
>
> My first plan was to make life simple by going with Red Hat,
> which has the greatest mind share. After struggling with Red Hat
> (and also Mandrake), I've come to doubt whether Red Hat will in
> fact make my life simpler.
>
> My personal experience so far is based on much less use of
> Caldera than Red Hat. But so far, it looks to me like Caldera
> is a more mature and reliable distribution than Red Hat. It also
> strikes me as more intelligently assembled. I'd be very interested
> in other people's comparisons.
Well, most peple in the alt.os.linux.caldera will probably be pro-caldera.
So am I and can only say that I have tested about 8 of the big dists out
there and I like Caldera the most.
> Here are some points to clarify what I'm looking for:
>
> 1. Of paramount importance is reliability. Of course, the usual
> propaganda is that Linux is a super-reliable system. I'm not
> interested in hearing that BS. The reality I've experienced with
> Red Hat and Mandrake is very different. Otherwise, I wouldn't
> have any need for Caldera. I want to know the reality of Caldera,
> whether it's just as bad, or perhaps not quite so.
I dont know what kind of problem you are refering to but I have no problem
with reliability with my Caldera box. If you have experienced problems with
more than one dist, perhaps your hardware aint 100%?
> 2. One big plus for me in Red Hat was that it primarily supports
> GNOME, on which I've settled. Unfortunately, Caldera seems
> to be strongly behind KDE. Will I face many woes trying to run
> GNOME on top of Caldera? Also, does Caldera plan to add
> more GNOME support in the future?
Well, it is no problem installing gmome on a Caldera box. The FAQ
covers this.
> 3. Clearly, Red Hat is a much more popular distribution.
> What is the situation with rpm's and compatibility generally?
> If I go with Caldera will I end up wrestling with constant
> compatibility problems? (By the way, what's the word on
> the Linux Standards Base? Will we see it in our lifetime,
> and if so will it make a real difference?)
Many of the RedHat/Mandrake rpms will work on a Caldera box but best
is ofcourse to use the Caldera-rpms or to just compile it yourself. Its
really not that hard at all.
> 4. Both Red Hat and Caldera claim to be geared towards
> business users. I'm a developer and don't consider myself
> a business user. On the other hand, I can't really think of
> any functional difference between a business workstation
> and a non-business workstation that matters to me.
>
> However, there may be some differences in support policies.
> Both Caldera and Red Hat seem to offer free installation
> support, but only very expensive continuing technical support.
> I'm interested in Red Hat's new Red Hat network idea. I
> don't know too much about what it's doing right now, but
> it seems to me it could potentially become an asset.
I think the 'pro buisness user' is much marketing stuff. I use my box
only for developing and as a normal desktop computer.
> 5. I mostly use the computer for (apart from writing) development
> in Java and C/C++. I'm aware of the big controversy involving
> gcc 2.96 and Red Hat 7.0 and the criticism Torvalds cast at RH. In
> fact, I take Red Hat's side on that issue. Sadly, it looks like design
> flaws in gcc, and linux itself, have left linux in a mess as a
> development platform. I don't hold Red Hat responsible for flaws
> in the design of gcc and linux.
>
> If there's some other reason to avoid Red Hat 7.0 for
> development, I'd be interested in hearing it.
I think you are wrong here. gcc 2.96 was NEVER meant to be 'on the market'.
It is not stable and shoud only be used if you want to try it out, NEVER
in a dist. Red Hat is totally to blame for that but then again, all their
latest X.0 releases has been crap. If you are going with Red Hat, go 6.2.
> Also, I want to be able to use a commercial alternative if I find
> one I like (Borland?), so commercial support is potentially important.
> I assume Red Hat might have some advantage here.
No idea here.
--
Stefan Fredriksson - Halmstad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sweden
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From: noel mcloughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How To Screen Grab - prntscrn in linux??
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:25:55 +0000
What app will grab a Screen Shot in Linux?
I have'nt found anything on Sourceforge, Freshmeat or IceWalkers.
thanks
noel.
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From: "Damien Mangin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Timout on telnet connexion : how to remove it ?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:37:34 +0100
Hi everybody, and sorry if this has been asked one hundred times ...
How is it possible to REMOVE the timeout disconnexion time from a RedHat 6.2
server ?
I mean, on several machines (but not all - why ???), after 5 mn being
connected via telnet without action, I receive the famous message "connexion
closed by foreign host" ...
I know that removing this creates a security hole, but what if the machine
is a internal developpment one ?
Thank'you !
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel panic after upgrade from 2.2.16 to 2.2.18
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:42:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wookie wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have installed SuSE Linux 7.0 into my IBM ThinkPad 600 (2645-41A), the
> stock kernel is 2.2.16. I downloaded the 2.2.18 and compiled the kernel
> source successfully. I edited my lilo.conf and added the new section for
> the new kernel.
>
> Before reboot, I ran lilo once.
>
> After the machine rebooted, it showed kernel panic as below:
> .
> .
> apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.13)
> Invalid session number of type of track
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05
>
> I have formatted my / and /home as Reiserfs and /boot as ext2.
>
> I appreciated if anybody could see what's wrong with my set up? It is
> something to do with APM??
>
Forgot to compile ReiserFS in?
Eric
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From: Pete Lachall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Upgrading glibc using rpm
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:43:59 -0500
I'm upgrading glibc from 2.1.1 to 2.1.3 on Redhat 6.2 using the rpm.
After running 'rpm -U xxx.rpm' I get a bunch of conflicts, all of them
having to do with the 'localedata' package of my current glibc. Any
ideas would be greatly appreciated.
- Pete Lachall
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From: Donald WHIZZARD Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: RSA Securid and Linux.
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:48:58 -0400
Sorry, the distribution is RedHat 6.2 (with 2.2.16 kernel).
It is a PAMified version.
But the Secuid Agent does not come with Shared libraries to
directly place i the /etc/pam.d
any ideas ?
-- Donnie
Craig Kelley wrote:
>
> Donald WHIZZARD Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am currently trying to impliment RSA SecurID
> > on a linux box.
> >
> > I can run sdshell and the authentication works
> > properly. HOWEVER, if I simply replace the shell, the user
> > is required to enter in *BOTH* the unix password *AND* the
> > securid passcode, putting the password over the network.
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas around this, or have done this
> > in a different manner ?
> >
> > Any help would be appreciative.
>
> You don't mention which disribution you're using, but I'll assume a
> PAMified version: you need to either add your secure authentication
> to the pam.d files (if you can), or replace the login program with
> your version.
>
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
--
Donald WHIZZARD Lambert ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CEO / MIS / Owner / Net Admin
INTERNIC: DL1625 ARIN: DL205-ARIN
Provisionet Distributions -- Canada
HTTP://Ca.Provision.Net
The Key is Knowledge, The Distribution method is Provisionet.
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From: "Givememore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Riptide Audio
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:05:14 GMT
Hi,
has anyone had any luck getting the Rockwell modem/Riptide Audio card to
work underlinux ?
Please advice if so
Thanks.
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From: Chris Menzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Mandrake 7.2 does not shut down properly
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:12:25 -0600
Since upgrading to Mandrake 7.2, shutdown is not able to shutdown. When
"shutdown -r (or -h) now" is issued, the system reports that various
processes are being shut down until I reach the message "No more processes
this runlevel". At that point the system hangs. It is not dead; a
Ctrl-Atl-Del, for example, generates disk activity. But it will not
continue. I have to hit the reset button to reboot. This is a particular
pain because the disks don't get unmounted, and so I have to wait the 5 or
6 minutes or so for fsck to do its thing.
The problem appears to be independent of the kernel. The problem began
with the 2.2.17 kernel that comes with Mandrake 7.2, but remained after I
upgraded to the 2.4.0-ac6 kernel.
Any ideas or suggestion would be appreciated.
Chris Menzel
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From: "Julio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet card setup
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:25:58 -0500
Is there a card that anyone can recommend?
"Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Kevin Davis�;
>
> KD> I've got a Linksys LNE100TX Ethernet card that I am trying to set
> KD> up. The card seems to show up in the Networking Control Panel
> KD> applet as eth0 but I can't seem to get it to start with dhcp. I
> KD> am of the understanding that the "tulip" driver needs to be
> KD> associated with the device but I can't figure out where to go to
> KD> to set this up. Any help is appreciated. I'm running Redhat 6.1
>
> KD> Thanks
> KD> ---------------------------------------
> KD> What could possibly go wrong?
>
> KD> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove the z's from my address)
>
> That card is being a PITA, and so is linksys, they stick all those linux
> stickers on the friggin box, so you pay your money. On opening it, you
> find a disclaimer that there is absolutely NO linux support offered by
> them. IMNSHO, thats false advertizing worthy of a suit.
>
> That said, it appears that Donald Becker, [EMAIL PROTECTED], may have a
> fix that I haven't had a chance to try yet, and the message from him
> advising me what to do it 30 miles away on my office machine. But
> basicly, you get the latest netdrivers src rpm from
> ftp.scyld.com/pub/network/ IIRC, and build that. The resultant drivers
> apparently can handle both the linksys and netgear fa311's according to
> what preliminary reading I've done, but my memory could be faulty too.
>
> Cheers, Gene
> --
> Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 600mhz
> email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
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> is � 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
> --
>
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How To Screen Grab - prntscrn in linux??
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:27:27 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
noel mcloughlin wrote:
>
> What app will grab a Screen Shot in Linux?
>
> I have'nt found anything on Sourceforge, Freshmeat or IceWalkers.
>
xv, gimp and probably several others
Eric
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From: "wookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel panic after upgrade from 2.2.16 to 2.2.18
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:27:29 +0800
Hi Eric,
Here is an update. Just now, I realized that ReiserFS support might need be
added to the kernel by patching it, I went to www.namesys.com and downloaded
the patch file for 2.2.18 kernel. I patched my kernel and am in the process
of compiling, it is not yet finished but good luck to me.. :-)
Best Regards,
Andy
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> wookie wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I have installed SuSE Linux 7.0 into my IBM ThinkPad 600 (2645-41A), the
> > stock kernel is 2.2.16. I downloaded the 2.2.18 and compiled the kernel
> > source successfully. I edited my lilo.conf and added the new section
for
> > the new kernel.
> >
> > Before reboot, I ran lilo once.
> >
> > After the machine rebooted, it showed kernel panic as below:
> > .
> > .
> > apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.13)
> > Invalid session number of type of track
> > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05
> >
> > I have formatted my / and /home as Reiserfs and /boot as ext2.
> >
> > I appreciated if anybody could see what's wrong with my set up? It is
> > something to do with APM??
> >
>
> Forgot to compile ReiserFS in?
>
> Eric
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From: "wookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How To Screen Grab - prntscrn in linux??
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:28:46 +0800
I use the screenshot function in The Gimp.
Best Regards,
Andy
"noel mcloughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> What app will grab a Screen Shot in Linux?
>
> I have'nt found anything on Sourceforge, Freshmeat or IceWalkers.
>
>
> thanks
> noel.
>
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From: "Moses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO only gettting to L
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:54:55 GMT
Redhat 7.1
LILO halts on L
Suggestions, have seen it get to LI before on other systems, this is a new
one to me.
Moses
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From: "wookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel panic after upgrade from 2.2.16 to 2.2.18
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:49:23 +0800
Right, I enabled ReiserFS support in my patched kernel, and it solved the
problem. However, I have another problem in my modules and broken my
pcmcia, but that's not related to the ReiserFS though...
Best Regards,
Andy
"wookie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Eric,
>
> Here is an update. Just now, I realized that ReiserFS support might need
be
> added to the kernel by patching it, I went to www.namesys.com and
downloaded
> the patch file for 2.2.18 kernel. I patched my kernel and am in the
process
> of compiling, it is not yet finished but good luck to me.. :-)
>
> Best Regards,
> Andy
>
> "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > wookie wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I have installed SuSE Linux 7.0 into my IBM ThinkPad 600 (2645-41A),
the
> > > stock kernel is 2.2.16. I downloaded the 2.2.18 and compiled the
kernel
> > > source successfully. I edited my lilo.conf and added the new section
> for
> > > the new kernel.
> > >
> > > Before reboot, I ran lilo once.
> > >
> > > After the machine rebooted, it showed kernel panic as below:
> > > .
> > > .
> > > apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.13)
> > > Invalid session number of type of track
> > > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05
> > >
> > > I have formatted my / and /home as Reiserfs and /boot as ext2.
> > >
> > > I appreciated if anybody could see what's wrong with my set up? It is
> > > something to do with APM??
> > >
> >
> > Forgot to compile ReiserFS in?
> >
> > Eric
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: setup News server
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:03:35 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Ian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>| Hash: SHA1
>|
>| "Beggar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>| news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>| > Hi all,
>| >
>| > How can I setup a News without a feeder server? Since when I check
>| > the howto, it always said we need a feeder but my ISP don't have a
>| > news server itself.
>|
>| Try out leafnode. It is very easy to set up, and it will only cache
>| groups that you are actually reading.
>| http://www.leafnode.org/
He still needs somewhere to get his feed from.
Try out the University's of Berlin free Usenet feed. One can subscribe
here: <http://news.cis.dfn.de/en/register.html>. They don't offer binary
newsgroups however and they're strict on one providing a valid e-mail
address and on Spam postings.
Leafnode is very cool btw.
--
Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764
Powered by Caldera Open Linux
9:58am up 25 days, 13:42, 8 users, load average: 0.11, 0.14, 0.17
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From: Mawgrath <nospam@[127.0.0.1]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 does not shut down properly
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:28:59 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Menzel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Since upgrading to Mandrake 7.2, shutdown is not able to shutdown. When
>"shutdown -r (or -h) now" is issued, the system reports that various
>processes are being shut down until I reach the message "No more processes
>this runlevel". At that point the system hangs. It is not dead; a
>Ctrl-Atl-Del, for example, generates disk activity. But it will not
>continue. I have to hit the reset button to reboot. This is a particular
>pain because the disks don't get unmounted, and so I have to wait the 5 or
>6 minutes or so for fsck to do its thing.
>
>The problem appears to be independent of the kernel. The problem began
>with the 2.2.17 kernel that comes with Mandrake 7.2, but remained after I
>upgraded to the 2.4.0-ac6 kernel.
>
>Any ideas or suggestion would be appreciated.
On my system restart has always worked and shutdown has never worked.
With 7.0 and 7.1 it used to give a core dump.
With 7.2 it gives a screenful of error messages.
I restart into Win98 and shutdown from there.
--
Mawgrath
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From: "Dave Roberge \(news\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: nfs problem
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:06:27 GMT
Hi, I try to install NFS server on RH 7.0 but even if I follow the officials
Redhat instructions, I get this error : permission denied when I try to
mount the filesystem.
My exports file is:
/usr/netstation 192.168.1.20(rw)
Even if I exported this file and started deamons portmap, rpc.mountd and
rpc.nfsd, nothing works.
Someone could help me?
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