Linux-Setup Digest #414, Volume #20 Sat, 13 Jan 01 15:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: replacing gnome with kde, how? (E J)
Re: Help ! Router firewall with only one NIC ("nag")
Re: Kernel 2.4 PPP Support ("Armond Perretta")
User Permissons and Internet connection (Trevor Tutt)
newbie X question (Randy Chang)
Re: Still looking: (Steven Leuty)
Re: Help ! Router firewall with only one NIC (Howard West)
Re: ATI RADEON DOES *NOT* WORK WITH LINUX (Joe Bob)
Re: Mouse stuck at the top of the screen after kde opens. (John Foster)
Re: LILO doesn't boot ("Matt Jones")
Re: Partitioning For Install (David)
Re: .bin program installation (David)
Re: User Permissons and Internet connection (David)
IDE CD-RW vs ATAPI Zip drive (John Foster)
Re: Still looking: ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: debian dselect intimidation (Colin Watson)
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replacing gnome with kde, how?
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:22:04 GMT
Boot off your RH7.0 and perform an UPGRADE and not an Install.
Select all of the KDE stuff you desire.
Husam wrote:
> hi, i have redhat 7.0 with gnome installed. can i install kde beside it
> without massing up my current installation? and how? or, is it better to
> make a fresh installation?
>
> thanks in advance.
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From: "nag" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Help ! Router firewall with only one NIC
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:07:01 +0100
why isn't it possible ?
I can probably receive on eth0 (pppoe) and send on eth0:0 (private network)
and do the translation/routing between
those two interfaces. just some more collisions during intensive data
transfer (is it right ?) because the media is the same.
as for the price of the nic cards, this is more of a curiosity problem than
a cost problem.
but you I will probably switch to a simpler configuration if I have no
positive answer
"default" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I don't this will work at all. For one thing, you would need two
interfaces
> on the gateway/firewall box, one to recieve and send on the "outside"
network
> and one to send and recieve on the "inside" network. With only one card
you
> are either inside or outside, not both. The interface can't, to the best
of
> my knowledge, perform a sort of context switch on each packet. You would
> either be inside, in which case you are cut off from the external network,
or
> outside, in which case you would be inaccessible to the internal hosts.
>
> The other problem with this is that you are dumping raw pppoe traffic
right
> into your local network wire, which isn't really capable of handling it.
You
> need to plug it into a host running pppoe so that it can translate the
packets
> into something that can be routed internally to your local hosts.
>
> How expensive could it be to get one more NIC?
>
> nag wrote:
>
> > hi,
> > I am trying to configure a linux box for masquerading/firewalling.
> > the configuration is not the classical one and I would need some
advises.
> > now I could just buy a 2nd nic card, but I am curious and I would like
to
> > make it work that way.
> >
> > - adsl modem is connected to the hub via uplink
> > - the linux box (myoldbox) is connected to the hub via eth0
> > (debian stable 2.2.18pre21 running pppoe 2.6)
> > + the connection to my isp goes through the ppp interface ppp0
> > + eth0 is the only ethernet interface (1 nic)
> > - other machines are connected to the hub (1 nic per machine)
> >
> > q1? is this configuration as safe, efficient, reliable as having the
> > gateway 'physically' routing to the private network (with 2 nics) ?
> >
> > and that is my current problem
> > q2? in this configuration, how do I configure the routes, translation
and
> > ipchains ?
> > the private network mask is 192.168.0.0
> > loopback interface is up
> > eth0 on myoldbox is up with address 192.168.0.1
> > eth0:0 on myoldbox is up with address 192.168.0.2
> > ( I guess this alias interface is needed in that case
for
> > routing purpose, not sure ? )
> >
> > thanks for your help, any pointer appreciated,
> > nag
>
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From: "Armond Perretta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4 PPP Support
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:59:18 +0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ronald Benedik"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Costas Gavardinas wrote:
>>
>> I have installed and compiled the new 2.4 kernel. Although I selected
>> ppp support from the appropritate menus, I get an error: ppp support
>> not installed in kernel, or something similar ...
>
> Have you got an old pppd? Install a new version.
[newsgroups trimmed]
Same problem as original poster, but using pppd 2.4.0 as per the 2.4.0
README. Next ... ?
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From: Trevor Tutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: User Permissons and Internet connection
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:27:09 GMT
I have finally found a real modem that will allow me to connect from
Linux 6.1.
The problem that I now face is that I can only connect as Root. If I
try to connect from any other login, the connect options in Gnome are
disabled. I am able to use the Dialup Configuration Tool and Debug the
connection and it looks as though everything is in order, but it will
not actually connect.
I have checked the login in question to see if it has rx rights (at
someone else's suggestion) and it does.
I have a strong feeling that it does involve user rights, but I don't
know where to look.\
Thanks in advance for any ideas on how to solve this.
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From: Randy Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie X question
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:40:18 -0600
Okay, I realize that this is probably a stupid question, but how do you
exit out of the X server? I'm using Storm Linux (Debian-based) with
XFree86 3.3.6. The reason I ask is because this version doesn't have
immediate 3D support for my TNT2. The documentation for the Nvidia 3.3.6
drivers say to exit out of the X server before running the Nvidia install
script.
P.S. - could you please CC to the email below, since I don't hop onto this
newsgroup that often? Thanks!
=====
"I have seen the evils of procrastination
and I vow to change my ways tomorrow."
-Yours Truly
Randy Chang
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://rkchang.freeshell.org
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From: Steven Leuty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Still looking:
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:41:19 -0600
Thanks Cathy. Unfortunately my modem card doesn't have jumpers and I've moved the card
to three different slots. I've even removed my ethernet card to see if that works. For
some reason the blasted thing continues to want to be assigned to com 5.
steverl
Cathy Gramze wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steven Leuty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> > I still haven't found the answer I'm looking for.
> > Again: I bought a U.S. Robotics PCI Fax Pro internal modem just so I
> > could install RH 7.0 since I've read that Linux supports the modem. My
> > computer came with a sinmodem which I quickly replaced with the above.
> > Any way the modem works well with win me but is located on com port 5.
> > My Linux doesn't read the modem what so ever. I've tried changing the
> > modem to a lower port but nothing seems to work.
> > again please help
> > thanks.
>
> This is just a stab in the dark, assuming you have done/will do all other things
>correctly (and I know nothing about modems in Linux, I have a cablemodem).
>
> Make sure the modem jumpers, if it has them, are set to the irq/com port you desire
>to use. Make sure nothing else is using it. If there are no jumpers, try moving the
>modem into another slot. Some odd motherboards out there at least used to assign irq
>by slot.
>
> cathyy
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From: Howard West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Help ! Router firewall with only one NIC
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:57:28 -0600
perhaps you know more about this than I but aren't you effectively broadcasting
all the pppoe traffic to your whole network?
nag wrote:
> why isn't it possible ?
> I can probably receive on eth0 (pppoe) and send on eth0:0 (private network)
> and do the translation/routing between
> those two interfaces. just some more collisions during intensive data
> transfer (is it right ?) because the media is the same.
>
> as for the price of the nic cards, this is more of a curiosity problem than
> a cost problem.
> but you I will probably switch to a simpler configuration if I have no
> positive answer
>
> "default" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I don't this will work at all. For one thing, you would need two
> interfaces
> > on the gateway/firewall box, one to recieve and send on the "outside"
> network
> > and one to send and recieve on the "inside" network. With only one card
> you
> > are either inside or outside, not both. The interface can't, to the best
> of
> > my knowledge, perform a sort of context switch on each packet. You would
> > either be inside, in which case you are cut off from the external network,
> or
> > outside, in which case you would be inaccessible to the internal hosts.
> >
> > The other problem with this is that you are dumping raw pppoe traffic
> right
> > into your local network wire, which isn't really capable of handling it.
> You
> > need to plug it into a host running pppoe so that it can translate the
> packets
> > into something that can be routed internally to your local hosts.
> >
> > How expensive could it be to get one more NIC?
> >
> > nag wrote:
> >
> > > hi,
> > > I am trying to configure a linux box for masquerading/firewalling.
> > > the configuration is not the classical one and I would need some
> advises.
> > > now I could just buy a 2nd nic card, but I am curious and I would like
> to
> > > make it work that way.
> > >
> > > - adsl modem is connected to the hub via uplink
> > > - the linux box (myoldbox) is connected to the hub via eth0
> > > (debian stable 2.2.18pre21 running pppoe 2.6)
> > > + the connection to my isp goes through the ppp interface ppp0
> > > + eth0 is the only ethernet interface (1 nic)
> > > - other machines are connected to the hub (1 nic per machine)
> > >
> > > q1? is this configuration as safe, efficient, reliable as having the
> > > gateway 'physically' routing to the private network (with 2 nics) ?
> > >
> > > and that is my current problem
> > > q2? in this configuration, how do I configure the routes, translation
> and
> > > ipchains ?
> > > the private network mask is 192.168.0.0
> > > loopback interface is up
> > > eth0 on myoldbox is up with address 192.168.0.1
> > > eth0:0 on myoldbox is up with address 192.168.0.2
> > > ( I guess this alias interface is needed in that case
> for
> > > routing purpose, not sure ? )
> > >
> > > thanks for your help, any pointer appreciated,
> > > nag
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Bob)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Subject: Re: ATI RADEON DOES *NOT* WORK WITH LINUX
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:54:13 GMT
Or read and learn how to write an XFree86 config file. It really
isn't that hard espicially since the configure program will write most
of it for you and you only have to change a few things to get the
radeon working. I have my radeon running on my linux machine with no
problems (except fot the fact that the mobo's fried and the machine
doesn't work anymore).
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:33:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Are you really *the* Linus Torvalds? Wow!
>
>Anyway, it doesn't work with 4.0.2 either. They claim to, but their
>-configure program is *ed up. On one of the sites, there is a list of
>things to be included in the future 4.0.2a, and it mentions ATI cards
>and fixed -configure option. Untill then, unless you are a Linux guru
>(which *you* really are) and can write a 86 config file by hand, you
>have not option but to wait....
>
>
>Regards,
>
>In article <93d7pt$439$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) wrote:
>> In article <93bvkf$4fu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >Please take note that ATI Radeon still doesn't work with the Linux
>OS. I
>> >have tried the latest XFree86 and it still goes south after the
>install.
>> >I am using Mandrake 7.2.
>>
>> It actually works fine, but you need to have XFree86-4.0.2.
>>
>> Which is recent enough that no vendor has done a release with it yet.
>> Expect mandrake 7.3, RH 7.1 and SuSE 7.1 all to ship with it working
>> off-the-CD.
>>
>> In the meantime I suspect that you need to install in text-mode and
>get
>> the 4.0.2 tree by hand. Inconenient, I agree.
>>
>> Linus
>>
>>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com
>http://www.deja.com/
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From: John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mouse stuck at the top of the screen after kde opens.
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:06:53 +0000
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> stephencolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > everything when KDE opened (after fiddling with it for days!). But the
> > cursor remains 'stuck' at the top of the screen and jumps madly about
> > when I move the mouse, but it won't move anywhere but along the top of
> > the screen.
> > I am using SuSE 7.0 with a GEForce2 MX card on an Athlon 850. With XFree
> > version 4.0.2.
> > Any suggestions gang??
>
> That you configure the right mouse type for your mouse. Is this not
> obvious? If you are using a usb mouse, don't. But how can I know,
> since you don't say?
>
> Peter
I've seen this problem on some Redhat systems with wheel mice. I don't
know what the real answer is, though it looks KDE-related as that's the
only common factor. The work-round, though. is to press and
simultaneously rotate the wheel. That gets the mouse moving properly and
it's OK after that. If your mouse is also a wheel, maybe that would work
for you. It isn't a fix, but at least it reduces the problem to a minor
irritation.
Hope it helps
John
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From: "Matt Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO doesn't boot
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:23:50 -0500
"Meul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:S8i76.134633$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hello,
> I've installed win me on my system, and trying to install linux redhat 7.0
> on top of that. I tried everything but my pc keeps booting win me. I have
> already installed lilo 5 times on MBR and still there comes no lilo while
> booting. Any ideas to install lilo?
> thanks
>
try running linuxconf at the prompt and go to the boot sections and
configure lilo that should solve your probs if you still have any
Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Partitioning For Install
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:20:42 GMT
Mike Gratis wrote:
>
> /(root) 500MB-10GB
> Swap 128MB-1GB
> /boot 10MB-25MB
> /opt 2-3GB
> /home 2GB-As Big As You Can Make It
> /temp 6GB
> /usr Big
> /var ?
If you are going to use multiple partitions on the system,then a 10 GB
/(root) or a 6 GB /tmp partition is a waste of disk space.
But this is my opinion and others will probably disagree.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.000% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .bin program installation
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:28:18 GMT
Hawk JIJUN wrote:
>
> Hi, I am a new bie to Linux system. I've been trying to install
> realplayer in Mandrake-linux 7.2, could anyone provide me a hints on how
> to install a binary program in Linux?
>
> --Hawk
chmod 755 filename.bin
cd into same directory
./filename.bin
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
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Completed more W/U's than 99.000% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: User Permissons and Internet connection
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:35:20 GMT
Trevor Tutt wrote:
>
> I have finally found a real modem that will allow me to connect from
> Linux 6.1.
> The problem that I now face is that I can only connect as Root. If I
> try to connect from any other login, the connect options in Gnome are
> disabled. I am able to use the Dialup Configuration Tool and Debug the
> connection and it looks as though everything is in order, but it will
> not actually connect.
>
> I have checked the login in question to see if it has rx rights (at
> someone else's suggestion) and it does.
> I have a strong feeling that it does involve user rights, but I don't
> know where to look.\
>
> Thanks in advance for any ideas on how to solve this.
On a 6.2 system you could add the line below to
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0 just below the "PAPNAME="
line to allow users.
USERCTL=true
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
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ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.000% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IDE CD-RW vs ATAPI Zip drive
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:35:18 +0000
After much help from this group and from the HOW-TOs and other
documentation, I have been able to get my IDE CD-RW drive working under
SCSI emulation - but one problem remains. I also have an ATAPI Zip-100
drive, and I cannot find a setup that will get both working at once,
except by intervention as root after login. I am running Redhat 6.2.
The problem is that if I follow the HOW-TO instructions, the CD-RW works
fine but the Zip drive doesn't. The instructions include adding
/sbin/modprobe ide-scsi
to /etc/rc.d/rc.local; afterwards cdrecord -scanbus then reports both
the CD-RW and the Zip drive, and the Zip is not accessible. If I remove
that line, the CD-RW doesn't work but the Zip does.
What _does_ work is to remove the modprobe line, then log in as root and
mount a Zip disc, and *then* type /sbin/modprobe ide-scsi.
Support for the Zip drive is built in to the kernel, and I assume that
what's happening is that the kernel doesn't grab ownership of the Zip
drive until the first mount, leaving it free for ide-scsi to grab if
that's run first. The Zip is on hdb, so I tried adding 'options ide-scsi
ignore=hdb' in /etc/conf.modules, but it didn't like that :-(
Does anyone know how I can either tell ide-scsi not to grab the Zip
drive, or tell the kernel that it should grab it during the boot
process?
With thanks in advance
John
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Still looking:
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:55:14 GMT
Steven Leuty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[newlines inserted]
> Thanks Cathy. Unfortunately my modem card doesn't have jumpers and
>I've moved the card to three different slots. I've even removed my
>ethernet card to see if that works. For some reason the blasted thing
>continues to want to be assigned to com 5.
Com5 only exists in windows. In linux, you can make any of the ttyS*
devices look at any IRQ and IOADDR with setserial, so who cares?
If you want it on ttyS0, configure ttyS0 to its IRQ and IOADDR.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: debian dselect intimidation
Date: 13 Jan 2001 19:49:12 GMT
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> dselect hasn't been limited to local media for a long time. These days
>> it usually uses apt as a back-end.
>
>oh. I guess I've never updated it then. It uses apt-get as a BACK end?
Yep, or at least it can do if you configure it appropriately in the
Access screen - these days most of the other dselect methods are
obsolete (I'm not sure if this was true at the time of the slink
release, though it was certainly stable enough for that by the potato
release). /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/ has the details; apt-get's
dselect-upgrade mode lets it just do what dselect says.
>What does apt-get use? Oh .. dpkg. Yes.
It gets a bit recursive at times if you're not careful, I'll concede. :)
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Oh Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling,
From glen to glen, and down the mountainside ..."
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