Linux-Setup Digest #446, Volume #20              Thu, 18 Jan 01 09:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: Gnome-PPP & pppd (Cyber Trekker)
  Re: where to install kernel sources (Steve Withers)
  Re: error compiling the kernel (Steve Withers)
  Re: how to connect to Linux server for internet? (Steve Withers)
  Re: Why no real-support for ext2fs by DriveImage et al. ? (Steve Withers)
  IDE-Scsi Drive - how to mount (Helmut Jarausch)
  Re: Problems mounting patitions (Ignasi)
  'force user' in linux ? (Andre Quinkertz)
  Re: Problems mounting patitions (Ignasi)
  How dual boot windows nt with linux 6.1? ("Sleutel Bewaarder")
  Re: Install from hard disk under WinMe?
  Re: Gnome-PPP & pppd (Noble Pepper)
  Re: best distro for 486 computer? (Noble Pepper)
  Re: where to install kernel sources ("ne...")
  Re: where to install kernel sources ("ne...")
  Re: where to install kernel sources (Eggert Ehmke)
  Re: where to install kernel sources (Eggert Ehmke)
  Re: best distro for 486 computer? (Eggert Ehmke)
  Re: Netscape slow (John Peach)
  Re: best distro for 486 computer? (D Karels)
  Help needed with installing new 2.4 kernel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: best distro for 486 computer? ("L-P 'Punisher' Sundqvist")
  Re: How dual boot windows nt with linux 6.1? (Frederik Himpe)

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From: Cyber Trekker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome-PPP & pppd
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:56:40 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Which distribution are you using?
> If your running redhat then you need to check to see if these are
> installed.
>
> wvdial
> ppp
> rp3
>
>  rpm -q wvdial
>  # will tell if wvdial is installed and version

I'll see whether this works for LM7.2, as I have the same problem. Upon
checking I found that I don't have wvdial installed.

Up until the other day I'd been using KDE 2, but decided to give Gnome a try.

I'm currently utilising KPPP to dial up my ISP from Gnome, like I did in KDE.


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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to install kernel sources
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:16:06 +1300

Hans Mielke wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I am upgrading my system from a 2.2.16 kernel to 2.4.0.
> 
> Question: May I install the sources in /usr/src/linux or not?
> 
> This is what I have done up to now, and this is what is suggested in the
> kernel howto, for instance.  (More exactly, I set a link from where ever
> the kernel is to /usr/src/linux.)
> 
> BUT: I cite from the file linux-2.4.0/README:
> 
> > - If you install the full sources, put the kernel tarball in a
> >   directory where you have permissions (eg. your home directory) and
> >   unpack it:
> >
> >               gzip -cd linux-2.4.XX.tar.gz | tar xvf -
> >
> >   Replace "XX" with the version number of the latest kernel.
> >
> >   Do NOT use the /usr/src/linux area! This area has a (usually
> >   incomplete) set of kernel headers that are used by the library header
> >   files.  They should match the library, and not get messed up by
> >   whatever the kernel-du-jour happens to be.
> 
> On the other hand, ppp-2.4.0 and cdrwtools 1.10 seem to expect the
> actual kernel sources under /usr/src/linux.
> 
> Seems kind of contradictory to me.
> I would appreciate any suggestions.
> 
> Hans

I rename the /usr/src/linux to suit my requirement. 

For example, I will put the latest source into /usr/src/linux and do my
makes/compiles. When finished, I will rename that directory to
/usr/src/linux-2.4.0......and make a new .usr/src/linux for next time.
If I want to compile from my linux-2.4.0 or linux-2.2.18 source trees, I
just rename the linux directory to something else...and rename the
directory I want to use to linux. 

Another way would be to create a symbolic link to the directory you want
to be "linux". This way, you don't actually have a linux directory at
all.....just a pointer to whichever directory you want to be "linux'
today.  

-- 
 Regards,

 Steve Withers
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Registered Linux user #24688
 http://counter.li.org

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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: error compiling the kernel
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:19:33 +1300

Maxxe wrote:
> 
> Hi folks!
> 
> I just installed RH7 on my pc and tryed to reconfigure my kernel. After
> menuconfiguring (i also tryed xconfig), make dep and make clean this is
> the last lines of the make zImage:
> 

Did you alter the Makefile in /usr/src/linux so that it would use the
kgcc cross-comiler instead of the default gcc cross compiler? 

About 20-30 lines from the top, there is a "CC" tag on the beginning of
the line, followed by a pile of text that has the letters "gcc" in it
(following some sort of "define" in parentheses).

Change that to kgcc and you should be fine. The gcc compiler in RH 7.0
is not the right one.  

-- 
 Regards,

 Steve Withers
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 Registered Linux user #24688
 http://counter.li.org

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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to connect to Linux server for internet?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:33:22 +1300

Jason L wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In case I have a Redhat Linux Server which connect to a cable modem.  Now I
> want to use a crossover cable to connect a Windows 98 client computer to the
> Linux Server.  How can I make the Win98 client computer able to connect to
> the internet through the Linux Server?  I only have one static IP provide
> from the cable modem company.
> 
> Thanks alot.

I assume you are NOT running the 2.4.0 kernel.....as it does this in a
completely different way which I have not figured out yet. So...assuming
you have something like the 2.2.16-22 kernel in RH 7.0...or similar...

You need to network cards. One has your internet address. The other has
the private, internal address. I use the reserved-for-private-use
10.0.0.0 a-class network...it's easy to remember. 

So your linux box would be 10.1.1.1 - say - and the Windows system would
be 10.1.1.2. 

If you can ping the Windows machine and the Internet from your Linux
box, you're half way there. 

Then....get the IP MASQ Mini-HOWTO. It's all there.....just follow it as
closely as you can. The main idea is to take the 2.2 kernel sample
rc.firewall file the author provides and tailor the IP addresses to
match your needs. He uses 192.168. range of reserved private
addresses.....and so can you if it makes it easier. 

These private addresses cannot be routed on the Internet, BTW....that is
what they are called private addresses. This is why the Internet-facing
NIC on your Linux server can't have a private address...but the LAN
facing one can. 

Your windows system will be set up so that the Linux box is the gateway.
You can either set up a local caching DNS (improves performance
noticably for resolving sites you visit often...) or you can just tell
the Windows system to use the same DNS addresses your Linux box uses.
Once you have IP MASQ set up, it passes all the outgoing trafic through
anyway. 

The gateway for your Linux system, BTW, will be the internet address
your ISP gave you. Your Linux system - in turn - becomes the gateway for
any system behind it. 

Make sure you alter your inetd.conf (if you have one- RH 7.0 doesn't) so
that virtually nothing starts up. No ftp or telnet or other remotely
accessed services. Hackers love to break into your system through the
holes in these. 

Steve


-- 
 Regards,

 Steve Withers
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 Registered Linux user #24688
 http://counter.li.org

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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why no real-support for ext2fs by DriveImage et al. ?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:46:27 +1300

Frederic Faure wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Out of curiosity, could someone explain to me why cloning software
> like Powerquest DriveImage or Symantec Ghost do not officially support
> cloning Linux partitions, and especially are unable to perform
> so-called "smart sector copying" by only duplicating sectors that
> actually contain data?
> 
> I did perform a disk to disk copy of Linux using DImage Pro 3.01, and
> it failed around 80%.

I put the new disk in as master and the old disk in as slave. I instaled
the same level of Linux onto the new drive as i was running on the old
drive. 

I booted to a command prompt, logged in as root and mounted the old disk
on the new system.....then copied all the directories (except /boot)
from the old disk to the new with cp urp (update, recursive, preserve
attributes). This allows - I think - only the files that are
different/changed to be copied over.....

Shutdown and re-boot...and you've copied your disk. 

Much easier to do than windows....by miles. I ACTUALLY tar all the
sourcedirectories to a backup drive....then un-tar them to the new
drive....leaves me with a backup to build the next one from that point
if I want to. 

-- 
 Regards,

 Steve Withers
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Registered Linux user #24688
 http://counter.li.org

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From: Helmut Jarausch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IDE-Scsi Drive - how to mount
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:52:06 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I'm trying to setup my system (kernel 2.4.0, glibc 2.2.1) to be able to
do both;
mounting a CD and burning one.
For the latter (for using cdrecord) I have disabled the normal IDE
recognition
of my IDE-ATAPI CD drives by using the kernel command line
append="hdb=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi"

This seems to work and  cdrecord -scanbus find this. And the bootlog
confirms this,
and the /proc filesystem, as well.
But now I have problems to mount such a device.
All  /dev/scd?  are rejected by mount.
Do I have to create a new device file (and how, knowing the information
of
cdrecord -scanbus)

Many thanks for a hint,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
Institute of Technology, RWTH Aachen
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



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From: Ignasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems mounting patitions
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:01:42 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

paul marwick wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:53:22 +0100, Ignasi
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Correction. The partition was HPFS and it cannot be written  from Linux.
> >
> > I redefined the partition as ext2 (83). But when trying to mount,
> > following message appears onto screen:
> >
> > 'mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda13,
> >               or too many mounted file systems'
> >
> > fs type is ext2. There are only two mounted file systems.  So I think
> > the problem is superblock related.
>
> When you say you 'redefined' the partition, what do you mean? Did you
> make the new file system on it? If you simply changed the partition
> type (using cfdisk or similar) there will not be a valid file system.
> You will need to create the ext2 file system
>
> paul.
>
> --
> paul marwick - Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, UK
> remove the numbers for e-mail
> ---

I delete the HPFS partition and creating a new ext2 one.

Then I get the error.

Ignasi.





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From: Andre Quinkertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 'force user' in linux ?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:17:46 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi there,

How can I tell the system to always set the same user of a created file in 
a specific directory (no matter who creates this file). In the smbd.conf 
there is an option called 'force user', which is exactly what I'd need. How 
do I do that if the file is not created via samba, but on the normal linux 
level ? Can anybody help ?

Many thanx in advance,

Andre

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Universitaet zu Koeln
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From: Ignasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems mounting patitions
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:25:33 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Aditionally, I send fdisk output, too.


Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 790 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1             1         2     16033+   1  FAT12
/dev/hda2            49       790   5960115    5  Extended
/dev/hda3   *        48        48      8032+   a  OS/2 Boot Manager
/dev/hda4             3        47    361462+  16  Hidden FAT16
/dev/hda5   *        49       114    530113+   6  FAT16
/dev/hda6   *       115       178    514048+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda7   *       179       242    514048+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda8   *       243       370   1028128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda9   *       371       434    514048+   6  FAT16
/dev/hda10  *       435       562   1028128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda11  *       627       773   1180746   83  Linux
/dev/hda12  *       774       790    136521   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda13          563       626    514048+  83  Linux



Partition I'm trying to mount is hda13.

The same operation works properly in my Laptop, with this fdisk output:


Disk /dev/hda: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 629 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1             1        75    566968+   6  FAT16
/dev/hda2   *        76        76      7560    a  OS/2 Boot Manager
/dev/hda3            77       151    567000   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda4           152       629   3613680    5  Extended
/dev/hda5   *       152       287   1028128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda6   *       288       423   1028128+   6  FAT16
/dev/hda7   *       424       559   1028128+  83  Linux
/dev/hda8   *       560       573    105808+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda9           574       629    423328+  83  Linux


Is it a hint ?

Ignasi.



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From: "Sleutel Bewaarder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How dual boot windows nt with linux 6.1?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:26:56 +0100

How can I dual boot windows nt 4.0 with linux 6.1?
NT resites on the first partition witch is NTFS.





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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install from hard disk under WinMe?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:30:04 -0000


Moray Allan wrote:
> 
> 
> I've been trying to install Linux on a new Sony machine (PCG-C1VE, a
> Crusoe-based notebook): the problem is first that there's no floppy or
> CD-ROM drive, and second that it's pre-installed with Windows Millennium
> Edition....
> 
> I've tried using loadlin, with the Debian standard and idepci kernels and
> disk image sets but anything I've tried has only hung the machine -
> flashing cursor at top left, no response to ctrl-alt-del. (To get loadlin
> running at all I downloaded dosfixme.exe from
> http://www.overclockers.com.au/techstuff/a_dos_me/, installed its 'fixed'
> system files, and rebooted into a more DOS-like state.)
> 
> There's already a spare partition on the machine, so presumably I can
> somehow get at the worst some sort of DOS installation on there as a
> stepping-stone to something better, but I can't seem to do even that
> directly due to the Features of WinMe. (Obviously I'd prefer a route
> straight to Linux if anyone can suggest one.)
> 
> At this point I could do with some advice as to what's upsetting loadlin,
> and thus what I should try next - is there some WinMe incompatibility, so
> that I should work on finding a way to get something like a Win98 boot
> disk onto a partition, or is it more likely to be a hardware conflict of
> some sort, which would make that futile? Other people claim to have Linux
> running on these things, making me tend toward the former, but if it is
> that then I'm surprised I can't find it documented anywhere....
> 
> Any help would be much appreciated,
> 
> -- 
> Moray
 WINME DON'T RUN ON A DOS BASE but if you partition the drive and load 
winn98 then you can load mandrake on the that part of your drive I say 
again win me has no dos  , thats what I had to do! kind of the long way 
around but it worked But i would like too know a better way ?


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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome-PPP & pppd
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:52:06 -0600

%20@%20.com wrote:

> I've setup an ISP entry in Gnome-PPP but when I try to connect it says
> "pppd daemon quit enexpectedly." I clicked on help in Gnome-PPP but it
> says the help documentation could not be found and may not be installed on
> my system (I don't know how to install it either). I read the man page for
> pppd and also the PPP HOWTO but I still don't know how to determine the
> cause and solution to this problem. I don't know if pppd generates an
> error log somewhere. Do anyone here know how I can fix it?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
I like a script based connection ala ppp howto and modem-lights applet to 
start and stop it. Works great and easy to move up to a demand dialing 
setup.

Check /var/log/daemon.log for pppd's messages.

I had similar problems when my CHAP/PAP stuff was not setup right.


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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best distro for 486 computer?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:54:35 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi
> I have an old 486 which I want to install Linux in.
> What's a good distribution to support it?
> hardware: 486DX, 16 MB RAM, 500 MB HD, SVGA card.
> Can I run Xwindows?
> Thanks.
> Jojo
> 
older ones should be fine, watch mandrake as they tend to be "optimized" 
for pentium (and K62).

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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to install kernel sources
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:01:59 GMT

On Jan 17, 2001 at 20:32, Eggert Ehmke eloquently wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:16:15 GMT, "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 17, 2001 at 16:20, Hans Mielke eloquently wrote:
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>I am upgrading my system from a 2.2.16 kernel to 2.4.0.
>>>
>>>Question: May I install the sources in /usr/src/linux or not?
>>No, you may not.
>
>This seems to be a new advice in the 2.4.0 kernel. Do you know the reason ?
Short ans: Cause Linus said so.
Long ans: When you installed your system, the packages were
compiled with the stuff in /usr/src/linux. By changing this,
the chances of this messing up stuff increases exponentially.
There are imcompatibilities between headers in the two versions.


>Is there as suitable other directory to use, beside my home directory ? BTW,
>I already upgraded to 2.4.0 and ignored the new restriction. My kernel
>source tree lives in /usr/src/linux-2.4.0 with a link to /usr/src/linux. So
>far, it runs fine. Should I change the setup ?
In the long run this could bite you. You could create a directory
in /home if it is large enough. I used to do the same before I saw
this on kernel traffic a while back.

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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to install kernel sources
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:14:15 GMT

On Jan 17, 2001 at 19:40, olgnuby eloquently wrote:

>"ne..." wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2001 at 16:20, Hans Mielke eloquently wrote:
>>
>> >Hi!
>> >
>> >I am upgrading my system from a 2.2.16 kernel to 2.4.0.
>> >
>> >Question: May I install the sources in /usr/src/linux or not?
>> No, you may not.
>
>Sheesh.;-)
>
>Isn't /usr/src/linux normally a symbolic link? I guess you could unzip
>the god damned things into /var/log/mesages/urinal if you wanted to so
>long as your /usr/src/linux is a link pointing to it and you have
>permission to it, which if you're going to make a new kernel and install
>it, probably might ought to be root or a reasonable facsimile thereof.
>;-)
The point is /usr/src/linux is where the headers etc your system
was compiled with are kept. Changing this leads to undefined
symbols etc.

>
>Getting serious though, I normally just remove the /usr/src/linux link
>prior to unzipping a new kernel. Then using (in my case normally the KDE
>archiver, just unpack to /usr/src/ and they will unpack to a new
>/usr/src/linux directory. Change the name of the new directory once they
>are unzipped to what ever the kernel is, (linux-2.4.0 etc.) cd to
>/usr/src/ and do a (ln -s linux-2.4.0 linux) and you still have your old
>kernel shit in it's own folder undisturbed and uncontaminated by shit
>from the new kernel, and the new kernel is not mixed in with the old and
>anything that needs to reference it is happy.
Yep but everything compiled against the olde kernel is not
looking /usr/src/linux-olde but /usr/src/linux which has
changed. It now has new defines, some old defines have been
removed, structures have changed, so now stuff can now bomb
out.

>cd /usr/src/linux and do your make mrproper;make xconfig or what ever is
>your favorite config method and go on from there.
But to cut down on the typing, I just do:

make mrproper menuconfig dep clean bzImage modules

as a normal user ;-)

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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to install kernel sources
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:28:35 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:01:59 GMT, "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>>>Question: May I install the sources in /usr/src/linux or not?
>>>No, you may not.
>>
>>This seems to be a new advice in the 2.4.0 kernel. Do you know the reason ?
>Short ans: Cause Linus said so.
>Long ans: When you installed your system, the packages were
>compiled with the stuff in /usr/src/linux. By changing this,
>the chances of this messing up stuff increases exponentially.
>There are imcompatibilities between headers in the two versions.

Hmm, but should this not also be true with 2.2.x kernels ? I upgraded all my
2.2.x kernels up to 2.2.18 using the strategy that now shall be wrong. I
never had a problem. Also, checking the 2.2.18 README, this hint was not
there. So what has changed in 2.4 that it is dangerous now ? 

>>Is there as suitable other directory to use, beside my home directory ? BTW,
>>I already upgraded to 2.4.0 and ignored the new restriction. My kernel
>>source tree lives in /usr/src/linux-2.4.0 with a link to /usr/src/linux. So
>>far, it runs fine. Should I change the setup ?
>In the long run this could bite you. You could create a directory
>in /home if it is large enough. I used to do the same before I saw
>this on kernel traffic a while back.


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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to install kernel sources
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:32:59 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:16:06 +1300, Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I rename the /usr/src/linux to suit my requirement. 
>
>For example, I will put the latest source into /usr/src/linux and do my
>makes/compiles. When finished, I will rename that directory to
>/usr/src/linux-2.4.0......and make a new .usr/src/linux for next time.
>If I want to compile from my linux-2.4.0 or linux-2.2.18 source trees, I
>just rename the linux directory to something else...and rename the
>directory I want to use to linux. 
>
>Another way would be to create a symbolic link to the directory you want
>to be "linux". This way, you don't actually have a linux directory at
>all.....just a pointer to whichever directory you want to be "linux'
>today.  

You shall not do this anymore in 2.4.x, see above and read the README in the
kernel source tree. Still not sure if I understand this right. I always used
the link method you described, worked fine for me too.

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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best distro for 486 computer?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:38:39 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 18 Jan 2001 10:40:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:

>Hi
>I have an old 486 which I want to install Linux in.
>What's a good distribution to support it?
>hardware: 486DX, 16 MB RAM, 500 MB HD, SVGA card.
>Can I run Xwindows?

I guess no. I run a 486 with a 560 MB disk without X and without too much
apps. The disk is almost full. Also, 16 MB is not enough ram. You can run
the machine as a home network server, that works fine. 

For the distro: any will do, I have SuSE7.0 running on the box. Just start
with a minimal configuration and add the stuff you really need.

-cu
Eggert

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Peach)
Subject: Re: Netscape slow
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:42:01 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (paul marwick) writes:
|>On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:00:55 GMT, John Peach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
|>>  Tore Haustveit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|>> |>ajEyMzRmQGV4Y2l0ZS5jb20gd3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gSSBnaXZlIHVwLg0KPiBOZXRzY2FwZSB0
|><snip>
|>> |>aWEgRGVqYS5jb20NCj4gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5kZWphLmNvbS8NCg==
|>> 
|>> which doesn't make much sense :-)
|>> Usenet postings should be text....
|>
|>While I agree that its not too useful, maybe you should have something
|>like metamail installed. Works for me...

I do - I don't use it for news groups where postings should be text -
not base64 encoded.....
base64 encoding is for .binaries groups :-)

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From: D Karels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best distro for 486 computer?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:29:15 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi
> I have an old 486 which I want to install Linux in.
> What's a good distribution to support it?
> hardware: 486DX, 16 MB RAM, 500 MB HD, SVGA card.
> Can I run Xwindows?
> Thanks.
> Jojo

I'm also running linux on an old 486. Mine is a 486 DX2/100MHz, 16 MB RAM, 850
MB HD, SVGA card. I'm running RedHat 6.2 (kernel 2.2.14) on this machine. It
runs fine and yes I can run Xwindows. Though X-windows is very, VERY slow (I
wonder why!?!?). My current installation on this machine does not include
Xwindows, for I find it far too slow to work with.

-- 
Regards,

Dennis Karels

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help needed with installing new 2.4 kernel
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:45:12 GMT

Hi,

I'm always facing problems when upgrading kernel on my linux box right
now I'm upgrading from 2.2.14 (SuSE6.4) to the new 2.4.0 kernel. Till
now I haven't found any document describing the exact procedure one
must follow and which problems one can face doing this.

Most of the time I get stuck with module loading problems for ex.
depmod looking into the wrong directories on creating the modules.dep
file. Modules that cannot be found during startup etc. etc.....

My questions are:

Is there a HOWTO describing the exact procedure on how one can upgrade
and correctly install a new kernel ?

Is there also a reference list where I can find which char-major-xx
belongs to which device ?

How is the modules.conf file created ?

Anyone some info on this ?

Tia,

Eric


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Reply-To: "L-P 'Punisher' Sundqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "L-P 'Punisher' Sundqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: best distro for 486 computer?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:04:38 +0100


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
news:946h6g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
> I have an old 486 which I want to install Linux in.
> What's a good distribution to support it?
> hardware: 486DX, 16 MB RAM, 500 MB HD, SVGA card.
> Can I run Xwindows?
> Thanks.
> Jojo

Hello!

There's only one distribution I would use for extreme cases - Slackware.
Throughout the Linux-community it's well-known for it's capacity to be
installed on down to 4MB machines. Has everything you will ever need too.

Try it on for a size, www.slackware.com


Regards,

/Punisher.




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From: Frederik Himpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How dual boot windows nt with linux 6.1?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:04:51 GMT

Sleutel Bewaarder wrote:

> How can I dual boot windows nt 4.0 with linux 6.1?
> NT resites on the first partition witch is NTFS.
Read the Linux + NT Loader mini howto on www.linuxdoc.org
It explains how to add Linux to the NT boot loader menu.

Greetings,
Frederik

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