Linux-Setup Digest #448, Volume #20 Thu, 18 Jan 01 14:13:13 EST
Contents:
LILO: Kernel too big ("Mark R. Holbrook")
Re: where to install kernel sources (olgnuby)
Re: What is dnetc?? (Dave Barnett)
Re: What is dnetc?? ("John Riddoch")
Re: 'force user' in linux ? (Todd Sargent)
Re: Help! Beginner c++ compiling problem in RH7.0 (Rex Dieter)
RAID 1 ("H.A.J. van Niekerk")
playing music ("d.frost")
Re: What is dnetc?? (Daniel Robinson)
dual processor support ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
voodoo tv support ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Cannot load ppa module for ParallelPort ZipDrive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Cannot load ppa module for ParallelPort ZipDrive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: playing music (H.Bruijn)
Re: kernel 2.4.0 and AICXXX (Markus Kossmann)
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From: "Mark R. Holbrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:
Subject: LILO: Kernel too big
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:07:51 GMT
Hello all,
I'm trying to compile a kernel under RedHat 7 to allow access to an NTFS
partition.
I started with the base 2.2.16-22smp config and simply enabled NTFS read
and NTFS write using "make config"
Next I did a "make dep"
Then I did a "make bzImage"
I end up with a compressed kernal that is 670896 in size. My expanded
kernel is 1780065. I copied these plus System.map into /boot under a
new name.
I then modified /etc/lilo.conf to include this new setup.
When I run /sbin/lilo I get the following output:
Added linux *
Fatal: Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16.22mrh is too big
I then ran lilo with a few -v options and get:
LILO version 21.4-4, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
'lba32' extensions Copyright (C) 1999,2000 John Coffman
Reading boot sector from /dev/hda
Merging with /boot/boot.b
Device 0x0301: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 9964 cylinders,
63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
Secondary loader: 11 sectors.
Device 0x0301: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 9964 cylinders,
63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
Mapping message file /boot/message
Device 0x0301: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 9964 cylinders,
63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
Message: 46 sectors.
Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22smp
Device 0x0301: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 9964 cylinders,
63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
Setup length is 7 sectors.
Mapped 1282 sectors.
Added linux *
<dev=0xc0,hd=0,cyl=50,sct=87>
"ro root=307 BOOT_FILE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22smp"
Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22mrh
Device 0x0301: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 9964 cylinders,
63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
Setup length is 255 sectors.
Fatal: Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16.22mrh is too big
Removed temporary file /boot/map~
Can anybody tell me what is happening and how to fix it?
Thanks - Mark
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From: olgnuby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to install kernel sources
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:10:27 GMT
"ne..." wrote:
> Yep but everything compiled against the olde kernel is not
> looking /usr/src/linux-olde but /usr/src/linux which has
> changed. It now has new defines, some old defines have been
> removed, structures have changed, so now stuff can now bomb
> out.
There is a good possibility you may be entirely right. And, yes, the
README for the newer kernels does state that the /usr/src/linux area
should not be used, because, I quote, "Do NOT use the /usr/src/linux
area! This area has a (usually incomplete) set of kernel headers that
are used by the library header files. They should match the library and
not get messed up by whatever the kernel-du-jour happens to be."
On this particular install, a COL 2.3 that started with a 2.2.10, which
then went through multiple patches and changes and modifications, grew
and patched through the 2.3 series, 2.4.0test_on_up and now running the
2.4.0, which required upgrading practically everything in the system
except possibly vi, I don't know what the hell else I could have linked
to the old directory, which is still in place, with a still bootable
vmlinuz-2.2.10-modular in /boot, so I guess if I hit a snag, I'll do a
rm /usr/src/linux;ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.2.10 linux, reboot and keep on
trucking.
Or reboot into FreeBSD 4.2 which I'm trying to get the feel of and
haven't put X on yet
and just hand edit a new kernel config with vi from console and go
harass newbies on comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc..
Or maybe I could just do like I do when I need to build something that
needs, oh let's say qt-somthing or other of the three versions of qt on
this one, that is different from the QTDIR in my environment and export
something...
Now maybe that might be an idea... KERNEL_HEADERS_AND_DEFINES in the
environment
And, I guess, like so many other things in life and Open Source, it will
come down to a matter of personal preference or utility that suits the
moment.
I guess as a parting shot in order to keep some of my 60 year old ego
intact while the new is being ushered in, I will say...
If it's just your damn machine, do it as you please and however works
for you.
If you are in a position where there might be a need for a replacement
for you, who might need to figure out that machine and all the machines
that depend on it...
Keep good continuity documentation. ;-)
Charlie
--
"Laughter is the best laxative there is for a constipated mind. Humor is
an ideal spoon to dose it."
--Chronocidal Charlie, 1995-2000, RIP.--
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From: Dave Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: What is dnetc??
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:13:23 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> HI all,
>
> It's actually a directory, but I can't look at it:
Is this your machine? Do you have root access? If so, become root and
cd into the directory.
> I've been trying to find out what this is, but I can't find anything
> in apropos yet. What is dnetc all about? Which man pages refer
> to it?
The man pages provided with dnetc help explain it. Or are there any? I
forget.
http://www.distributed.net
Cheers,
Dave
--
Dave Barnett System Software Engineer x1434
"Needing someone is like needing a parachute. If he isn't there the
first time, chances are you won't be needing him again."
- Dogbert's Rules of Order
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From: "John Riddoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: What is dnetc??
Date: 18 Jan 2001 17:16:16 GMT
In uk.comp.os.linux Rasmus B�g Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE LC STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
>> 693 root 20 19 708 688 504 3 R N 98.6 0.0 3849m dnetc
>> 692 root 19 19 708 688 504 2 R N 98.4 0.0 3849m dnetc
>> 690 root 19 19 708 688 504 0 R N 98.0 0.0 3849m dnetc
>> 691 root 19 19 708 688 504 1 R N 98.0 0.0 3849m dnetc
Check http://www.distributed.net/trojans.html.en ?
May be a valid version, though.
--
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http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/staff/jr/
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From: Todd Sargent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'force user' in linux ?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:05:59 -0500
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Andre,
I don't know of a way to force new files in a directory to have the same owner,
but there is a way to have them have the same group owner. The setgid bit.
With the setgid bit set, no matter who creates the file in the given directory,
each file in that directory has the same group owner. This is a great way to
set up a group shared directory. Once setgid is set, simply make everyone who
needs access to files in a directory a member of the group and SHAZAM!! access
is granted.
Here's how you make it happen. Once the target directory is created, simply
change the permissions.
# chmod g+x, g+s dir_name
There are a couple of caveats. First, the permissions must be set in symbolic
mode; octal won't work. Second, the execute bit for the group owner must be
turned on for the setgid permission to work. With setgid properly setup, the
ls -l output will look like this
rwx r-sr-x
Note the lowercase 's' in the group owner column. This indicates the setgid
bit has been properly set. If you forget to ensure the execute permission is
set, there will be an upper case 'S' in the group owner, indicating an
undefined state.
Hope this helps!
Andre Quinkertz wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> How can I tell the system to always set the same user of a created file in
> a specific directory (no matter who creates this file). In the smbd.conf
> there is an option called 'force user', which is exactly what I'd need. How
> do I do that if the file is not created via samba, but on the normal linux
> level ? Can anybody help ?
>
> Many thanx in advance,
>
> Andre
>
> ____________________________________
> Andre Quinkertz, Dipl.Biol.
> Institut fuer Entwicklungsbiologie
> Universitaet zu Koeln
> Gyrhofstrasse 17
> 50931 Koeln
> Germany
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> lab phone: +49 221 470-4327
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Andre,
<p>I don't know of a way to force new files in a directory to have the
same owner, but there is a way to have them have the same <u>group</u>
owner. The setgid bit. With the setgid bit set, no matter who
creates the file in the given directory, each file in that directory has
the same group owner. This is a great way to set up a group shared
directory. Once setgid is set, simply make everyone who needs access
to files in a directory a member of the group and SHAZAM!! access is granted.
<p>Here's how you make it happen. Once the target directory is created,
simply change the permissions.
<p> # chmod g+x, g+s dir_name
<p>There are a couple of caveats. First, the permissions must be
set in symbolic mode; octal won't work. Second, the execute bit for
the group owner must be turned on for the setgid permission to work.
With setgid properly setup, the ls -l output will look like this
<p> rwx r-sr-x
<p>Note the lowercase 's' in the group owner column. This indicates
the setgid bit has been properly set. If you forget to ensure the
execute permission is set, there will be an upper case 'S' in the group
owner, indicating an undefined state.
<p>Hope this helps!
<br>
<br>
<br>
<p>Andre Quinkertz wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi there,
<p>How can I tell the system to always set the same user of a created file
in
<br>a specific directory (no matter who creates this file). In the smbd.conf
<br>there is an option called 'force user', which is exactly what I'd need.
How
<br>do I do that if the file is not created via samba, but on the normal
linux
<br>level ? Can anybody help ?
<p>Many thanx in advance,
<p>Andre
<p>____________________________________
<br>Andre Quinkertz, Dipl.Biol.
<br>Institut fuer Entwicklungsbiologie
<br>Universitaet zu Koeln
<br>Gyrhofstrasse 17
<br>50931 Koeln
<br>Germany
<br>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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<br>lab fax: +49 221 470-5164
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From: Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! Beginner c++ compiling problem in RH7.0
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:18:18 -0600
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Bill Hudson wrote:
> RedHat 7.0 is a poor choice for this, because they shipped it with
> broken libraries and compilers. In fact, the compiler is so broken they
> give you a kernel-specific compiler 'kgcc' just for that.
Please don't rant about broken compilers when it is simply not true.
It works fine. It was used to compile the (almost) every RedHat 7.0
binary (100's of them). If it was so broken, this would not have been
possible.
kgcc is provided because the kernel is known to compile incorrectly (at
least sometimes) on ANYTHING newer than egcs-1.1.2, including
gcc-2.95.2.
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From: "H.A.J. van Niekerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config
Subject: RAID 1
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:31:16 +0100
Hi,
After a fatal harddiskcrash 3 days ago, I reinstalled RH 6.2. All is
working fine again, but I'd like to avoid this in the future by creating
a RAID 1 configuration. However, I can't find a HOWTO on this subject.
Can somebody help me out please??
Thanks,
Huub
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From: "d.frost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: playing music
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:32:16 +0000
Hi everyone,
I have got my sound card to work, i can play music files, i.e. wav, mp3
etc. The problem is that i cant play cd's. When i put a cd in, and
start the cdplayer program, it seems like it is reading the cd but no
sound is coming out.
I am using slackware with a newly built 2.4 kernel, with sound blaster
drivers built in. Canb anyone help with this.
Thanks
Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Robinson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: What is dnetc??
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:44:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:39:10 GMT, Thomas Rasmussen
>If it's your own computer and you haven't started it, then I really
>don't know what it is... but since it is niced to 19, it shouldn't
>affect any other processes.
This is not 100% correct. Linux is not a real-time operating system.
Even with a nice of 19 the process will be given the CPU once in a
while. To test this you can run something like Seti@home or dnetc with
a nice of 19, and then launch another CPU intensive job such as MP3
encoding without any nice. On my system Seti@Home still gets around
6-8% of the CPU.
This is due to the fact that Linux (and most Unix systems) is
optimised for average case performance. Users expect there jobs to get
a bit of work done even if a higher priority job is available in the
system.
If you want more information on this phenomenon look up the RTLinux
site at www.rtlinux.org.
Just my two cents (sorry for nit-picking, but as the objective of a
newwsgroup is to share information I thought I might as well but in)
:-)
Daniel
===============================================
"He who breaks a thing to find out what it is,
has left the path of wisdom" - Gandalf
Web page : http://student.ulb.ac.be/~drobinso
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dual processor support
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:37:09 GMT
hi all, I've recently come into the possesion of an extra pII 350 and
I'm think about setting up linux with a two of these on a tyn
s1832dl(tiger100) motherboard. I'm curious which distro would be the
best for this, and are there any special considerations for setting up a
dual processor system? thanks
peace,
raga
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: voodoo tv support
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:38:58 GMT
Hey all, anybody know if there is support for the voodoo tv pci200 card
under linux? alternatively is there a support forum for video grabber
developers? thanks
peace,
raga
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cannot load ppa module for ParallelPort ZipDrive
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:39:38 GMT
I have been unable to get my RedHat installation (R 6.2) to see the
external PP ZipDrive connected to my PC. Here's what I tried:
insmod ppa (to load the ppa module)
Here's what I got:
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
parport_enumerate_Rdcb625ab
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
parport_claim_R46138e04
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
parport_unregister_device_R857406d1
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
parport_release_Re207d4f8
When I do a 'rpm -q ppa' it tells me ppa is not installed. How do I
install this? The ZipDrive-HOWTO tells me
I should get the latest source of ppa (1.42?) and compile it into my
kernel. Is this what I need to do to get
my Zipdrive working? Help!
Uday
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Cannot load ppa module for ParallelPort ZipDrive
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:36:13 GMT
I have been unable to get my RedHat installation (Release 6.2) to see
the external PP ZipDrive connected to my PC. Here's what I tried:
insmod ppa (to load the ppa module)
Here's what I got:
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
parport_enumerate_Rdcb625ab
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
parport_claim_R46138e04
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
parport_unregister_device_R857406d1
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/ppa.o: unresolved symbol
parport_release_Re207d4f8
When I do a 'rpm -q ppa' it tells me ppa is not installed. How do I
install this? The ZipDrive-HOWTO suggests I should get the latest source
of ppa (1.42?) and compile it into my
kernel. Is this what I need to do to get
my Zipdrive working? Help!
Uday
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: playing music
Date: 18 Jan 2001 18:51:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:32:16 +0000, d.frost allegedly wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>I have got my sound card to work, i can play music files, i.e. wav, mp3
>etc. The problem is that i cant play cd's. When i put a cd in, and
>start the cdplayer program, it seems like it is reading the cd but no
>sound is coming out.
>
>I am using slackware with a newly built 2.4 kernel, with sound blaster
>drivers built in. Canb anyone help with this.
Have you got the cable which directly connects the cd player internally
to your sound card?
--
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The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.4.0 and AICXXX
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:05:47 +0100
Rasmus B�g Hansen wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have heard bad romours about kernel 2.4.0 - or rather the AICXXX
> support therein.
>
> Is it correct, that it is unusuable in 2.4.0?
>
> I would rather not waste too much time on installing it, if it is not
> working with my SCSI controller.
Well, the aic driver in kernel 2.4 has some problems. But it isn't
unusable. The next version of that will solve these issues. You can try
the beta of that version from http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gibbs/linux/ if
you see problems with the old version .
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Markus Kossmann
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