Linux-Setup Digest #449, Volume #20              Thu, 18 Jan 01 16:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: dual processor support ("Frederic Vanneste")
  webserver ("avi")
  Home and web server.? ("avi")
  Re: Debian, no cd..LONG (Cathy Gramze)
  Re: dual processor support (Todd Sargent)
  Re: Kernel 2.4 Compiling under RH7 (Fulton B. Gonzalez)
  Re: SCSI + IDE drives ("Bill")
  Kickstart creation (bill davidsen)
  root file permission problems (Dan Simkins)
  Re: Kernel Panic: MBR Problem? (NavyH3HeloPilot)
  Re: kdevelop compilation under Mandrake7.2: qt2 problem. ("Chris Wallace")
  Re: how to change X settings? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Kickstart creation (Bill Hudson)
  Re: RedHat install crashes -- "buggy cmd640b" error (H.J. Plankeel)
  Re: Why no real-support for ext2fs by DriveImage et al. ? (Frederic Faure)

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From: "Frederic Vanneste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual processor support
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:21:13 GMT

In article <947d4k$jj6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hi all, I've recently come into the possesion of an extra pII 350 and
> I'm think about setting up linux with a two of these on a tyn
> s1832dl(tiger100) motherboard. I'm curious which distro would be the
> best for this, and are there any special considerations for setting up a
> dual processor system? thanks
> 
> peace, raga
> 
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

It is the kernel that needs smp support, so every distro will work just
the same. I upgraded my machine last week, it was running on a 
dual mb but with only one cpu (I waited a little till the prices
dropped).
The only thing you need to do is compile a kernel with smp support
if you want the second cpu to be used. AFAIK most distros even 
ship with a smp kernel...

Nice touch: watch the second penguin appear on the top of your
screen (if you're using fb...).

Frederic

-- 
"The Future ain't What it used to be..."

        'James D. Morrison'
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From: "avi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: webserver
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:17:28 +0200

Hi,

Planing to setup my own webserver.
if there anyinformation how to setup it as well what's the important things
I need to be carefull of.
any information will be grate.
I'm planing to have www with my own domain. as well mail server, and ftp
server.

Thanks

LH





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From: "avi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Home and web server.?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:20:25 +0200

Hei,

I just install linux as a webserver as well home server.
and planing to conect to workstation NT to that server.
any idea or information how and what's the best way to connect it?

Thanks



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From: Cathy Gramze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian, no cd..LONG
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:27:01 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry) wrote:


>>I'm game. I suppose I need to see if the scsi cd is working, first. 
>>
> Okay.  Glad that got things working.  The ide-scsi emulation mode is now
> easier because we know that the drive works as a regular old cd.  Now we can
> make linux ignore the drive when you first boot the system and not load the
> hogging ide driver and instead load the ide-scsi emulation driver.  This
> requires a modification to lilo.conf so some care needs to be taken. 
> Basically, you want to tell the system as it boots to ignore the ide cdrw
> and then load the ide-scsi emulation driver instead.   To make the system
> ignore the ide driver, you need to add an append line in your lilo.conf like
> this:
> 
Not a chance that's going to work. I just did a fast apt-get for cdrecord, and 
cdrecord -scanbus can't open the driver/see any scsi devices. My burner IS scsi, and 
in the boot messages it seems to both find it and not find it. It recognizes the 
adapter, and finds a host, but also complains about the scsi card not being found. 
Time for a kernel recompile for sure, to make sure I have the right SCSI driver 
installed. My other cdrom is IDE. But I can play games now! Still, I desperately need 
to be able to burn cds for my school projects. It was the only practical way to hand 
in our MFC programming assignments!

cathyy

> 
> 



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From: Todd Sargent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual processor support
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:34:21 -0500

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raga,

We're operating a small Beowulf cluster (8 node), and each node has 2 PIII
750 MHz processors.  We installed Red Hat 7.0 using the 2.2.16-22smp
kernel.  It works great!  Just make sure when you're loading your system,
you choose to manually select the software, and choose the SMP kernel
(2.2.16-22smp).  Beyond that, there aren't any special considerations we've
found.

Regards,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hi all, I've recently come into the possesion of an extra pII 350 and
> I'm think about setting up linux with a two of these on a tyn
> s1832dl(tiger100) motherboard. I'm curious which distro would be the
> best for this, and are there any special considerations for setting up a
> dual processor system? thanks
>
> peace,
> raga
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fulton B. Gonzalez)
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4 Compiling under RH7
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:36:49 GMT

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:00:52 GMT, James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Fulton B. Gonzalez" wrote:
>
>> I'm having a whale of a time trying to compile kernel
>> 2.4 properly on a Red Hat 7 system.  I've installed the latest
>> version of modutils (2.4.1). Everything proceeds well
>> until I do a make modules_install, upon which I get the error
>> message below:
>>
>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/arch/i386/lib'
>> make -C  arch/i386/math-emu modules_install
>> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/arch/i386/math-emu'
>> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `modules_install'.
>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.0/arch/i386/math-emu'
>> cd /lib/modules/2.4.0; \
>> mkdir -p pcmcia; \
>> find kernel -path '*/pcmcia/*' -name '*.o' | xargs -i -r ln -sf ../{} pcmcia
>> if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map  2.4.0; fi
>> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
>> /lib/modules/2.4.0/kernel/drivers/net/tokenring/smctr.o
>> depmod:         __bad_udelay
>>
>> I've compiled kernels before according to the standard recipes,
>> so this leaves me scratching my head.  Am I missing something
>> obvious?  What do I need to do in order to be able to compile
>> this kernel properly?
>>
>
>You need to edit the "... /linux/Makefile" file.
>
>Replace the two instances of "gcc" with "kgcc".
>
>JRT
>

I did replace once instance of "gcc" with "kgcc" (on the "CC = .."
line); I'll replace the other one and see how it goes.

-- 
Fulton B. Gonzalez                      
Department of Mathematics       
Tufts University                
Medford, MA 02155 USA


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From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI + IDE drives
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:53:12 GMT

Hello,

You should set the motherboard BIOS to boot SCSI first, for example you
might have SCSI,A,C as a boot sequence option. I'm guessing your BIOS is set
at A,C,SCSI, the default on most boards I've seen,  and thats why your
having problems now that you've got and IDE drive in there.

"Robert Morelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:93jjnt$kud$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a Red Hat 6.2 system that boots from a SCSI drive.  I've recently
> installed a 15 gig IDE (Ultra ATA) drive in the computer.  The IDE drive
is
> connected to the primary IDE controller,  at the master position on the
> cable,  and with its switch set to master.
>
> 1. I want to keep the SCSI drive as the boot drive and I'd like it to be
> treated as drive 1.
>
> 2.  Currently,  I haven't let the BIOS setup program recognize the IDE
> drive.  (My impression is that it will make it harder to keep the SCSI
> drive as drive 1 if I do so.)
>
> 3.  I also have OS/2 installed on a partition on the SCSI drive,  and I
> use the OS/2 boot manager to boot the machine.
>
> 4.  At the moment Linux recognizes the IDE drive as /dev/hda and the
> SCSI as /dev/sda,  but I can no longer boot off the linux partition.  (I
> have been booting off a rescue floppy.)  When the OS/2 boot manager
> transfers control to the linux partition,  I just get a repeating pattern
> 01 01 01 01 01 ...
> continuing indefinitely.  When I run lilo I get the warning message:
> Warning: /dev/sda8 is not on the first disk
>
> 5.  OS/2 boots and recognizes the IDE drive as drive 2.  I can control
> which drive OS/2 treats as first by the order in which the IDE and SCSI
> drivers are loaded.
>
> My basic question is what is going wrong with linux and/or lilo,  and
> how can I get linux to boot again.  More specifically,
> Question A.  What determines which drive linux and/or lilo considers drive
1?
> Can I change it?
>
> Question B.  If I can't change which drive is drive 1,  can I still boot
linux
> off the SCSI drive as drive 2?  (Why can't lilo boot from drive 2?)  The
> lilo user's manual states,
> ``LILO's boot sector can only be booted from the first disk unless
> some special boot manager is used.''
> I can't really make sense of this statement.
>
> Thanks,
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Kickstart creation
Date: 18 Jan 2001 19:54:34 GMT


I have to install a bunch of servers, and for various reasons will be
using Redhat. I see how to install using a kickstart file, but how do I
create the kickstart file? There are references to a utility which takes
the current installation and creates the ks.cfg file based on the
current install. Obviously there is such a thing, but I sure don't see
the name of it.

I have several 600+ page Redhat books, but they all want to tell me how
to use a ks.cfg, not how to create one in some way better than by hand.

-- 
  bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
"I am lost. I am out looking for myself. If I should come back before I
return, please ask me to wait."  -seen in a doctor's office


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From: Dan Simkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: root file permission problems
Date: 18 Jan 2001 12:00:58 -0800

Hello, folks. I have a problem/question on a RH6.2 box. Any
information, or guidance appreciated.

The problem is that root is not able to do anything in the /usr/bin
directory, e.g., mv, rm, cp, or even create a new file.

I have checked the obvious:

1) yes, I am logged in as root

2) yes, root owns and has permissions on /, /usr, and /usr/bin

Here is a sample session: { NOTE: directory listings edited for brevity }

[root@dozer /root]# whoami
root
[root@dozer /root]# uname -r
2.2.14-5.0
[root@dozer /root]# cd /
[root@dozer /]# ls -al
total 117
drwxr-xr-x   18 root     root         4096 Dec 29 11:33 .
drwxr-xr-x   18 root     root         4096 Dec 29 11:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x   21 root     root         4096 Jan  2 14:15 usr
[root@dozer /]# cd usr
[root@dozer /usr]# ls -al
total 140
drwxr-xr-x   21 root     root         4096 Jan  2 14:15 .
drwxr-xr-x   18 root     root         4096 Dec 29 11:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root        24576 Sep 18 10:34 bin
[root@dozer bin]# pwd
/usr/bin
[root@dozer bin]# echo abcd > junk
bash: junk: Permission denied
[root@dozer bin]# 

So what gives? I thougt that if root owned a file, had rw permissions
on the file and directory, it could do anything it wanted. Apparently
not.

For background, I stumbled into this attempting to upgrade some
packages (netscape) that have entries in /usr/bin.

Thanks in advance fro any help,

Dan

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From: NavyH3HeloPilot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic: MBR Problem?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 19:59:51 GMT


> Sounds like re-install time.  If you wipe out the partition, there
won't be any linux partition that can be mounted at boot time.

Absolutely! I figured as much when I decided to mess with the partition
tables.  Fortunately, I haven't put anything there that I'm worried
about losing.

-Brian


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From: "Chris Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kdevelop compilation under Mandrake7.2: qt2 problem.
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:21:13 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Julien Verchere"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have a Mandrake 7.2 installed. I try to install kdevelop. I first used
>  the Mandrake RPM but the software systematicaly crashe when I launch
> it. So I try to recompile kdevelop. However, when I want to 'configure'
> it, I  obtain the following error:
> "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (libraries) not 
> found. Please check your installation!"
> 
> It is not the first time. I ever had this error trying to compile some 
> programs which use Qt. Is there a link that Mandrake has not installed.
> I  use kde2 and I am sure that qt2.2 is installed.
> 
> Thanks by advance,
> 
> Julien

Hi,

I finally got kdevelop to work but not without a couple updates.  First
you will need QT 2.2.2 or 2.2.3 from www.trolltech.com.  Also Mandrake
7.2 comes with KDE pre-2.0.  The problem is that kdevelop needs 2.0
atleast.  KDE has an ftp site (max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/kde/
stable/2.0/distribution/rpm/Mandrake7_2Update).  Having downloaded and
installed all that you should be good to go with compiling kdevelop. 

Version 1.4 is a port of 1.3 to KDE 2.0.  I do not believe that 1.3 will
work in 2.0.

Chris

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: how to change X settings?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:23:50 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Michael V. Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>       I've always manually edited my "/etc/X11/XF86Config" file and juggled
> the "Modes," placing my preferred screen resolution (800x600) as the
first
> value in the "Modes" list(s).

I've just installed Red Hat 7.0 on a desktop (P233 MHz) and managed to
solve most of the problems, except exactly for the XF86Config. Right now
I only seem to get "640 x 480" resolution to work, it is as though the
whole screen had shrunk (with lots of empty space unused around it...).
I found out the video chip is on board, and the mother board seems to be
from "txpro", but I don't know where to go from here, since
Xconfigurator cannot solve the problem. Oh, yes, I'm also using a
Samsung SyncMaster 3 monitor... Can anybody give me a hint of how to
solve this problem?

Thanks in advance,

Mauro




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From: Bill Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Kickstart creation
Date: 18 Jan 2001 20:36:31 GMT

bill davidsen wrote:
> 
> I have to install a bunch of servers, and for various reasons will be
> using Redhat. I see how to install using a kickstart file, but how do I
> create the kickstart file? There are references to a utility which takes
> the current installation and creates the ks.cfg file based on the
> current install. Obviously there is such a thing, but I sure don't see
> the name of it.
> 
> I have several 600+ page Redhat books, but they all want to tell me how
> to use a ks.cfg, not how to create one in some way better than by hand.
> 

http://wwwcache.ja.net/dev/kickstart/KickStart-HOWTO.html

-- 
Bill Hudson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.J. Plankeel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RedHat install crashes -- "buggy cmd640b" error
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:33:45 GMT

leslie barstow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Patrick,

>I also have a CMD640 controller (a really cheap PCI/ISA multi-function
>card), and have had nothing but trouble with it.  Linux does better than
>most, but my secondary drive still reports short reads on imaginary sectors.
>MS-DOS won't even recognize the secondary controller - I have to initialize
>using Linux.

I remember there was a serious problem with a CMD640 controller due to
the fact that  (as far as I remember) there was only one memory buffer
for both IDE channels, causing data corruption when both channels were
working, for instance installing from a CDROM to a HD. 
I remember that after this was discovered workaround code was added in
the operating systems to prevent both channels working at the same
time.
There was at the time (three? years ago) a lot of discussion on the
internet and also testing programs so you could find out if you had
such a chip. Try searching for CMD640 and error or flaw or something
like that as search terms.
Huib 

>I am using RedHat (5.0), and the kernel comes with CMD640 support compiled
>in (that's why you're getting the "buggy cmd640" messages - if it weren't,
>you wouldn't get those messages).  This looks like a real problem, perhaps
>with the CMD640 workaround code, or perhaps with your system.  Your best
>bet is to get an add-on IDE card with BIOS, and go from there (actually,
>your best bet if you're shopping is to just get a new mainboard, CPU, and
>case for a couple hundred - you'll thank yourself in the morning)

>Good Luck

>In comp.os.linux.development.system
>   Patrick Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>: I am trying to install RedHat 5.2 on a system I inherited. It is a (gasp!)
>: Packard Bell Model 3960CD; a P60 with 40MB RAM. I have disconnected the
>: proprietary CDROM, and hooked up a spare IDE (Panasonic 24x, I don't have the
>: model number here). They are both on the PCI IDE port: the 4.3GB HD as master,
>: the CD as slave.
>: [I should add that I also upgraded the 400MB HD to the 4.3GB].

>: The kernel loads fine w/ only the HD, but once the CD is attached
>: to the chain,
>: the crash occurs. I have also tried a different CDROM (Creative 32x), but it
>: still crashes. Unfortunately, the other IDE connector is so badly placed, that
>: it and the floppy connector cannot both be used at the same time; so I can't
>: test if the "PCI IDE" connector is bad.

>: Anyway, here's the guts of the problem -- I hope there's a guru out there who
>: can help me with this. The dump goes like this:

>: ide0: buggy cmd640b interface on PCI(type 2) config=0x3e
>: ide1: not serialized, secondary interface not responding
>: cmd640: drive 0 timings/prefetch(on) preserved, clocks=2/3/3
>: cmd640: drive 1 timings/prefetch(on) preserved, clocks=4/16/17
>: divide error: 0000

>: CPU: 0
>: EIP: 0010:[<0016f2d5>]
>: EFLAGS: 0010246

>: <dump of the registers>

>: Code: f7 74 24 0c 89 c1 66 89 4b 20 8b 7e 78 80 4b 0c 40 0f b6 43


>: I am checking w/ PBell, to see if there is a BIOS upgrade I can get to see if
>: that will help, but I am not confident that they offer much support
>: (especially for a relatively old box like this P60).

>-- 
>Les Barstow                        |  Apple ][ Forever!
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  |
>                                   |  "How may I be honest with you today?"
>Disclaimer:  I didn't do it!       |            -- Tuvoc

When answering by email please remove the ANTISPAM.
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and 18th century.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic Faure)
Subject: Re: Why no real-support for ext2fs by DriveImage et al. ?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:50:32 GMT

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:46:27 +1300, Steve Withers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I put the new disk in as master and the old disk in as slave. I instaled
>the same level of Linux onto the new drive as i was running on the old
>drive. 

Precisely what I do NOT want to do :-) The goal is to have a generic
Linux image on a file server, and use it to deploy hosts. I guess this
could be done by booting with eg. TomsRtBt, and download an image made
with dump.

BTW, what about the MBR and the partition table: how come I can
restore an image on a new hard disk whose geography is different from
the HD that I used for cloning the original image? Would a whole image
made with dump also save the MBR?

I still wonder why DriveImage doesn't handle ext2fs OK while
apparently PartitionMagic works, though.

Thx
FF.

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