Linux-Setup Digest #490, Volume #20 Wed, 24 Jan 01 11:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please ! (John Hasler)
Newbie question ("Rcola")
Re: Newbie question (H.Bruijn)
kernel bloody 2.4!! ("Adam Short")
Re: reiserfs, utilitys package please (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
aureal and via ("Adam Short")
Re: win98/linux dual boot with 2 HDs revisited (Duncan Pryde)
Re: kernel bloody 2.4!! (H.Bruijn)
Re: Newbie question ("Rcola")
Re: moving staroffice (David)
Re: small linux on 486 laptop??? ("John")
Re: Disable an adress with netscape (David)
ps usage ?? ("Ed Bras")
Linux on 2nd hard drive..... ("John")
Re: Newbie question (H.Bruijn)
Re: Help with Norwegian keyboard ("Olav Fossgaard")
Upgrading from RH 5.2 to RH 6.2-- How ?? (Clark L. Coleman)
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Somebody create a How-To on upgrading to Kernel 2.4, please !
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:30:46 GMT
Arctic Storm writes:
> No one has created a web page with detailed, step-by-step instructions on
> upgrading the kernel to 2.4. There are a few tips here and there on
> upgrading the kernel in general, but nothing specific for 2.4.
Why does it have to be on a Web page? What's wrong with the README and
Documentation/Changes files in the source? If you have Debian you can use
kernel-package and make it even simpler.
> There are a few tips here and there on upgrading the kernel in general,
> but nothing specific for 2.4. I'm talking about the proverbial "Idiot's
> Guide to Linux Kernel 2.4 Upgrade."
Why do idiots need to upgrade to 2.4 now?
> If you have a decent background in Linux and computer programming, then
> it's easy for you, but what about for the rest of us?
Why do the rest of you need 2.4 now?
> I'm sure the Linux community would much appreciate your efforts if you
> donated time to create a web page with easy-to-understand, detailed,
> step-by-step, guide in upgrading to Kernel 2.4.
Here is a complete set of easy-to-understand instructions:
Hire an expert to do it for you.
I'm available, but you probably don't want to pay travel expenses from
Elmwood.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "Rcola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie question
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:51:33 -0000
Hi,
I'm installing Redhat 6 onto my machine, but I'm having trouble configuring
X. It does not seem to like my Graphics card or Monitor. My graphics card
is an ATI All-in-wonder 128 (Rage128 32MB) and my monitor is a Gateway2000
Vivitron1572.
I've tried different configurations and think the problem is the graphics
card as I can always use a generic monitor setting. The problem now is
where can I find a linux driver for my graphics card and the lovely ATI
company does not develop linux drivers. Any help as to where I can find one
or if I can use another setting that will work would be most appreciated.
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Newbie question
Date: 24 Jan 2001 15:01:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:51:33 -0000, Rcola allegedly wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm installing Redhat 6 onto my machine, but I'm having trouble configuring
>X. It does not seem to like my Graphics card or Monitor. My graphics card
>is an ATI All-in-wonder 128 (Rage128 32MB) and my monitor is a Gateway2000
>Vivitron1572.
>I've tried different configurations and think the problem is the graphics
>card as I can always use a generic monitor setting. The problem now is
>where can I find a linux driver for my graphics card and the lovely ATI
>company does not develop linux drivers. Any help as to where I can find one
>or if I can use another setting that will work would be most appreciated.
You need to upgrade the X server to version 4.0x. That has full support
for the ATI 128 cards. For more info try http://www.xfree86.org/ and
especially: http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.2/r128.html
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
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Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel bloody 2.4!!
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:11:28 -0000
I have posted this to other newsgroups to no effect. I've been told I need
the kgcc package, which I downloaded last night. That didn't work. The
kernel compiled fine but wouldn't boot. I've also been told I need glibc2.2
which has proven impossible to compile (at least for me), although I have
found a solution to this I hope. I've also been told I need the latest
kernel utils, thats all very well too, but I've no idea when I'm supposed to
install them. Can someone help a bewildered person like me upgrade his
system? I've been running linux for about 4 years now and this is the
nastiest upgrade I've ever come across.
I'm also trying to get 3d support going for my rage 128 video card. I've
been told I need the latest DRI drivers and kernel 2.4 (hence the above). I
also apparently need agpgart support and a number of other things compiled
into my kernel. I have no idea how to set these up (I know how to recompile
the kernel, I've done it countless times, I just don't know the ins and outs
of this particular bit). Once all of these have been done, theoretically I
should have an up to date, 3d enabled system. Am I correct in thinking this,
or am I once again missing a vital point?
This is really starting to get to me now.
Thanks for any info
Adam
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reiserfs, utilitys package please
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:12:06 +0100
On 24 Jan 2001, Gene Heskett wrote:
> RBH> You should be able to correct with hdparm. If it is a decent
> RBH> controller and drive (ie. supported in Linux), you should be
> RBH> possible to enable DMA and 32bit mode in hdparm.
>
> hdparm says the dma is on, but won't allow any udma equ settings. Of
> course the docs on hdparm have always been a bit 'obtuse' to this old
> man. Sample command line I should try? The PDC-202xx driver is compiled
> into the kernel, and dmesg doesn't report any problems.
Try to do some 'hdparm -d 1 -c 1 -X66'. '-d 1' will enable DMA, '-c 1'
will enable 32-bit and '-X66' will enable UltraDMA. Be sure to backup
first - it can sometimes give trouble...
> RBH> hard off about 10 times or so without giving problems.
>
> Is that not grounds for loss of allowance, phone/tv priviledges and
> mom's taxi for 2 weeks? :)
Well, it is the server (DHCP, mail, news, http and ftp) for about 280
users. And the electricians don't regard our servers so much while
rebuilding the building. They even trashed the main board in december
(nice to use christmas for repairing and reconstructing the server). had
they just dropped a not...
> >> Have other Reiserfs users noted these freezes too?
>
> RBH> In fact I have. When unpacking large .tar.gz files with
> RBH> thousands of files inside, it freezes shortly at times. Well,
> RBH> the system does not freeze totally; just disk-IO. But never had
> RBH> problems with it - it has always continued fine.
>
> RBH> Never experianced when copying large files though; only with
> RBH> lots of small files.
>
> This was while using mc to copy the whole /usr to it. 100k files or more
> I expect, many small. First noticed when mc's copy progress bar would
> stop in the middle for an extended coffee break, then noticed the mouse,
> and the animations of the xsystem monitor were all freezing at the same
> time. Later, I repeated it with 'cp -R' and it wasn't so noticeable. I
> gotta check that card out for an led hookup though, I like to see
> dancing lights...
I did with tar. I experienced it stall (the harddisk was working in ass
of, if I can say so :-) for up to 30 seconds. But with normal use, I
don't notice any perfomance degradation.
> Now, how can I unmount /usr, and remount the new partition in its
> place? Edit fstab and reboot maybe? umount claims its busy.
edit fstab and reboot would work, yes. But why bother to reboot? You
will, however, have to change to runlevel 1 ('init 1'), so no files on
/usr are in use.
The tricky part will be to remount the root partition though :-)
Btw. I would keep /boot on ext2. First lilo has a few problems with
reiserfs (I think they are fixed in the latest releases though?).
Second, reiserfs uses a lot of space for the journal, so it is not
possible to create a 10Mb partition. Third you seldom write to /boot, so
there will almost never be anything wrong after an unclean unmount (and
checking will be very short).
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: aureal and via
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:16:01 -0000
Has anyone yet found a way to make these two things work together in Linux
without killing the system totally?
I have the Vortex 2 soundcard and an Abit KT7 RAID motherboard which has the
accursed VIA chipset on it. I have the latest drivers for the vortex 2 (from
sourceforge) and all that happens when I use them is, as soon as I try to do
anything other that just play sound, the machine locks up, totally. It is
most obvious with Netscape. As soon as I fire that godawful beastie up, if I
have any sound happening at all, the whole system goes horribly pear shaped
and won't respond to anything at all.
I've tried everything I can think of. Is it just a case of waiting for
better drivers for one or the other or is there a proven remedy (preferably
for my exact hardware, as proven remedies have failed for me in the past)
that I can use?
Adam
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From: Duncan Pryde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: win98/linux dual boot with 2 HDs revisited
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:14:24 +0000 (GMT)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've used both the disk= commands to tell lilo which is which, and the
> > map-drive command to swap them round
> Then show me your lilo.conf file please.
Here it is:
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
default=linux
disk=/dev/hda
bios=0x80
disk=/dev/hdb
bios=0x81
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0
label=linux
read-only
root=/dev/hda1
other=/dev/hdb1
label=win98
map-drive=0x80
to=0x81
map-drive=0x81
to=0x80
table=/dev/hdb
--
I've tried it with and without the disk= lines, with no joy either way.
Am I missing something obvious?
Duncan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: kernel bloody 2.4!!
Date: 24 Jan 2001 15:17:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:11:28 -0000, Adam Short allegedly wrote:
>I have posted this to other newsgroups to no effect. I've been told I need
>the kgcc package, which I downloaded last night. That didn't work. The
>kernel compiled fine but wouldn't boot. I've also been told I need glibc2.2
>which has proven impossible to compile (at least for me), although I have
>found a solution to this I hope. I've also been told I need the latest
>kernel utils, thats all very well too, but I've no idea when I'm supposed to
>install them. Can someone help a bewildered person like me upgrade his
>system? I've been running linux for about 4 years now and this is the
>nastiest upgrade I've ever come across.
Have you read the ../src/linux-2.4.0/Changes file?
At the end are the locations of where you can get the sources for the
things you need to upgrade. You need them to boot the new kernel so before
the reboot to start the new kernel would be _when_.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: "Rcola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie question
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:29:04 -0000
Thanks!
One more question if you don't mind. Which Binaries do I down load as their
are 3 ix86 ones?
Cheers
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: moving staroffice
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:37:03 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/24/01
> at 05:47 AM, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >Did you use the network install as root or just a user install?
> >If you did the network install you can move the user's files to
> >a safe place then delete the Office52 directory and then run
> >"soffice" again.
>
> I did the network install.
>
> So here comes the confusing part: as user I'm 'davisf'. If I move
> my stuff to some other partition, and then follow your advice as
> follows: >
> >Make a symlink so normal users can use it.
> >
> >ln -s /usr/local/office52/program/soffice /usr/bin/soffice
> >
> >The only thing left is to login as a user and run.
> >
> >soffice
>
> will this reload my configurations for SO? I think it does a
> fresh install, right? That's what I mean: the config files have
> the path variables all 'hardcoded', to use a big word.
It would re-install a clean set of the user files. It's been a while
since I did an install of SO but I think you are able to tell it where
to install the user files to when you run soffice. If you don't make any
changes then it installs to a default location. The configurations of
any of the files that were made with SO would stay the same.
ie.. You have a database or spreadsheet and you save it. Then
re-install SO for that user, the database and spreadsheet files would
still be the same as before. I had to do a reinstall SO a while back and
just moved the directory I was saving my files to out of the office52
directory, deleted office52, ran the soffice command and re-installed
the SO user files. Opened my files and went back to work. Mileage may
vary.
> If I were sharp enough (or had enough time), I'd (a) figure out
> what all the config files are (there's a rather large number, it
> seems even if the individual user install using the network
> option is small compared to doing it the other way) and (b) do
> some scripting to bulk-change the path variables.
>
> It's simpler just to reinstall obviously.
>
> Good advice though, and thank you for it!
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
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Completed more W/U's than 99.016% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: small linux on 486 laptop???
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:45:35 GMT
What is the minimum amount of space I need on my computer for this?
"Edwin Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> For learning Linux and Perl you should try and get a copy of Slackware
3.2.
> I ran that for several years on a 486 and you can squeeze it down to a
> rather small size by not selecting everything provided. Also, I would
> heartily recommend "Running Linux" published by O'Reilly. Even though
> written with RedHat in mind, this is an excellent guide and has salvaged
> mistakes I made several times as well as explained.
>
> ...Edwin
>
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:11:12 GMT, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Any suggestions for a small linux to put on a 486 laptop with only a 340
hd
> >drive...? I am just trying to learn linux and perl.....
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~ Edwin Johnson ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~
> ~ http://www.shreve.net/~elj ~
> ~ ~
> ~ "Once you have flown, you will walk the ~
> ~ earth with your eyes turned skyward, ~
> ~ for there you have been, there you long ~
> ~ to return." -- da Vinci ~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disable an adress with netscape
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:46:50 GMT
"H.Bruijn" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:06:35 +0100, michael.fengler allegedly wrote:
> >On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Fabrice Bazetoux wrote:
> >
> >>i'm searching for a tool that can disable some internet adresses under
> >>Netscape.
> >
> >Try http://www.junkbusters.com . Keeps my screen free from adverts,
> >but can be configured to block any URL or part of it.
>
> I prefer the patched version from http://www.waldherr.org/junkbuster/
> which doesn't only block the adds as the original version but replaces
> them with transparent gifs as well.
>
> Simplest would be by the way to block domains by adding them to the
> /etc/hosts file as 127.0.0.1 (gives broken images and such but is
> terribly quick and easy.
If you are running your own DNS you can add this to /etc/named.conf then
restart named and stop all connections to a domain. It can cause
problems on websites that use links that are tied to doubleclick like
IDG.net uses. I also block flycast.com this way.
zone "doubleclick.net" in {
notify no;
type master;
file "named.local";
};
> >>PS : And i would like to known if there exists a tool that can disable
> >>popup under Netscape
> >
> >Afraid not. If this is for warnings about cookies, simply accept them
> >and chmod 0 ~/.netscape/cookies .
You could "rm -f cookies" then
"ln -s /dev/null ~/.netscape/cookies"
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
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Completed more W/U's than 99.016% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: "Ed Bras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ps usage ??
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:48:26 +0100
Reply-To: "Ed Bras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hellu there,
The man page of ps isn't really clear to me.
I have a lot of java processes running with different arguments, and like to
see those arguments as well. How do I do that with "ps" ??
For example: ps -A | grep java gives me all the java running processes but
doesn't show the arguments.
I have processes like "java -jar orion.jar", "java -jar bla.jar", etc...
In the ps I only see a thousand times "java" nothing more.
With ps -x I see a little bit more but still not the arguments.
Hmmmm, please help me out ?
Regards,
Ed Bras
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From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on 2nd hard drive.....
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:53:12 GMT
My desktop is WinME on a 30g hd....I would like to install a distribution of
Linux on a 4g hd...any suggestions would be appreciated....I do not want it
to adversely affect my WinMe system..... [EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.s. I am also installing a small linux on a 486 and Peanut Linux and
Slackware 3.2 were suggested....opinions?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Newbie question
Date: 24 Jan 2001 15:56:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:29:04 -0000, Rcola allegedly wrote:
>Thanks!
>
>One more question if you don't mind. Which Binaries do I down load as their
>are 3 ix86 ones?
depends on your glibc libraries ;-) But get from any of those versions
the script Xinstall.sh which determines the binaries you need to download
and installs them.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: "Olav Fossgaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with Norwegian keyboard
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:47:51 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Tormod Schumacher Westvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently installed Linux Mandrake 7.2, but can't find the @ sign on my
> keyboard.
A known Mandrake 7.2 bug. A fix can be found at
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~sebastid/mandrake_tastaturfeil.html
Olav
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Upgrading from RH 5.2 to RH 6.2-- How ??
Date: 24 Jan 2001 15:53:34 GMT
Given a RH 5.2 installation, how would you upgrade to RH 6.2?
I have a slow modem. At work, I can download via very fast connections
to ZIP disks, or burn a CD-R. All of the RedHat mirror sites that I
have seen do not have CD images for RH 6.2, just a big RPMS directory
that has gobs of binary RPMS totalling 400+ MB, and another source
RPMS directory.
Given this, how would you upgrade from 5.2 to 6.2? Download all the
binary RPMS and try to burn them on a CD-R ? Will my RH5.2 install
floppy read that CD-R and do an upgrade to 6.2? I have been through
hell and back with RPM troubles, circular dependencies, etc., trying
to do pieces of the upgrade myself.
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