Linux-Setup Digest #525, Volume #20 Mon, 29 Jan 01 00:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Where to look (3Com 3C905c works sometimes) (John Jensen)
Re: StarOffice 5.2 and Samsung ML-4600 Printer (Dan)
help on memory and ssh (rhlinx)
Compiling the Kernel (Scott L)
Re: Window larger than physical screen (Bob Camp)
Re: Compiling the Kernel (Jimbob)
kernel modules (Jimbob)
'top' won't run; gives msg 'bad data in /var/run/utmp' (Professor Bruno)
FA:IBM ThinkPad 365XD p133/24mb/1gb/cdrom/Linux +MORE!!!!!!!!! (schlomo)
Re: Compiling the Kernel (Paul Kimoto)
Re: rpm 4 under Caldera? (Paul Lew)
Re: Compiling the Kernel (Scott L)
error during kernal compiling.. ("SS")
Sound busy when it really isn't (Victor S. Miller)
Re: Running Linux in RAM ("Michael Westerman")
Re: Boot Problems Win98/RH7 (Bob Lewis)
Re: I made a new driver for Netgear fa311 netcard working on RedHat (Yan Deng)
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From: John Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Where to look (3Com 3C905c works sometimes)
Date: 29 Jan 2001 01:37:16 GMT
Linux-Addict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: John, did you get you 3c905c working in linux 2.4?
: if so , is there a 3c90x.o driver in /lib/modules/2.4.0/net ?
: I want upgrade to 2.4 but my network will be down without that driver.
: Thanks very much
: James Tate
No, I'm still 2.2.16-22smp, for what that's worth.
John
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:46:55 -0500
From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 and Samsung ML-4600 Printer
Awesome, thanks for the tips guys!
-Dan
Dan wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just got the Samsung ML-4600 and let me first say that
> I'm very impress
> with it. It is an excellent printer for the money, of
> course there are
> many other printers out there that's better, but like
> anything in life the
> better the quality, the greater the price. However, the
> ML-4600 is
> consider, in my opinion, dollar-for-dollar the best buy.
>
> Although the print quality is crisp and sharp, but I do
> have one complain,
> it seems that the printing are "thin" and "light" compare
> to the traditional
> true laser printer. But for the price that I paid $242
> (all and all),
> it's a steal.
>
> Now that I set up the printer and it's printing, I just
> need to know how
> to set it up to StarOffice 5.2.
>
> Under "printer setup," StarOffice gives you whole bunch of
> drivers for
> other printers, and there is a option to add other
> drivers, I have try it
> and failed.
>
> On the CD there was only a script that sets up
> "printtool," but I didn't
> actually see anything that I can use for StarOffice's
> "printer setup."
>
> Please help!!
>
> -Dan
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:03:56 -0600
From: rhlinx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help on memory and ssh
Hi,
I installed Mandrake 7.1 on my computer and I have 128M memory. But
only
64M is detected, what should I do?
I have another problem that the ssh is not working, the error message is
FATAL: Executing ssh1 in compatibility mode failed.
Can anyone give me some help? Thanks a lot.
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From: Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling the Kernel
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:20:49 -0600
I'm a newbie to Linux, and I'm trying to compile 2.4.0. I took
instructions from Mandrake's website, and have extracted the kernel
source and everything, but when I input the command "make xconfig", it
doesn't recognize the command "make". Is there something I could be
doing wrong? What's wrong?
TIA, I appreciate it.
--
Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ph33R m3 d00ds
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From: Bob Camp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Window larger than physical screen
Date: 29 Jan 2001 01:19:32 -0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> |I have recently installed Debian Linux (vere 2.2) with Xwindows running
> WindowMaker. Certain program windows (menus etc.) appear larger
> than the screen so certain parts arn't viewable
> (only part of the window can be seen). I have read the
> HOWTO's, min's and FAQ's, they told me to look in my XF86Config
> file for video modes that are larger than my screen, none found
> only 640x480 that my monitor is set to, also they said to look
> for a line stating 'Virtual' for virtual screens, there is no such
> line in my Config file. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Some
> more deatils about Software/hardware config:
> Monitor: VGA (Ast)
> Graphics card: S3Virge (GX/DX)
>
It may well be to do with the position of the image with respect to the
line sync.
If you can move the window (the bit you can see) around on the desktop (the
whole of the bit you would like to see) by bumping the edge with the mouse
then you have a virtual screen. But since you could not find virtual in
/etc/XF86Config you will not be seeing that. :)
With a non-virtual screen you will be seeing a part of the desktop but
cannot see the other parts because it is off the screen. It may be to one
side or to high etc. This condition can be adjusted by scaling and
translating the desktop image. All those funny numbers on the "Modeline"
definitions do that. It is hard work changing these by hand so use the
XF86Setup program. You will need to be root to run this. At the question
"Use your current XF86Config as defaults?" answer yes and this will save
you needing to enter mouse settings.
Good luck.
Bob.
--
Cygnus Technical Consulting
Analogue and Digital IC Design.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.hadron.demon.co.uk/
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From: Jimbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling the Kernel
Date: 29 Jan 2001 13:44:37 +1100
Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a newbie to Linux, and I'm trying to compile 2.4.0. I took
> instructions from Mandrake's website, and have extracted the kernel
> source and everything, but when I input the command "make xconfig", it
> doesn't recognize the command "make". Is there something I could be
> doing wrong? What's wrong?
> TIA, I appreciate it.
Are you executing make in the kernel source directory where the Makefile exists?
> --
> Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Ph33R m3 d00ds
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From: Jimbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel modules
Date: 29 Jan 2001 13:58:59 +1100
I am running kernel 2.2.15 (*yes i am aware of the fact it is relatively old*) which
serves my purpose adequately but ran into one small problem. I had parallel printer
support enabled as a module yet i couldnt get the printer to work yet when compiled
into the kernel itself there isnt any problems. Is this just a feature of this kernel?
Is this a known problem?
Thanks in advance
Jimbob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Professor Bruno)
Subject: 'top' won't run; gives msg 'bad data in /var/run/utmp'
Date: 29 Jan 2001 03:09:26 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.os.linux.development.system ]
[ Author was Professor Bruno ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]
[ Posted on 29 Jan 2001 03:08:48 GMT ]
Greetings all,
Per the subject line.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks!
Max Pyziur
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: schlomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.comp.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: FA:IBM ThinkPad 365XD p133/24mb/1gb/cdrom/Linux +MORE!!!!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 03:20:12 GMT
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11" Display
24MB Ram
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Internal CD-ROM
External Floppy (IBM p/n 10h3980)
AC Adapter (IBM p/n 85G6709)
56K PCMCIA Fax/Modem
Two button mouse
External 1.0GB Sparq Drive including
removable cartridge w/ installed Linux driver
Linux Slackware 3.6 original 4 disc set included
Pre-installed software including Netscape 4.74,
Corel Wordperfect 8, and more...
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Compiling the Kernel
Date: 28 Jan 2001 22:33:16 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott L wrote:
> when I input the command "make xconfig", it
> doesn't recognize the command "make". Is there something I could be
> doing wrong?
Did you install the "make" package?
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: rpm 4 under Caldera?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 03:38:31 GMT
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:03:43 -0500, L. Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Paul Lew wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:55:53 -0500, L. Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Robert Morelli wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "L. Friedman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Robert Morelli wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> >> >> "Michael West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > What are you hoping the documentation will tell you?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> For one thing, I would hope it would tell me exactly the sort of
>> >> >> things that you and the other posters are telling me. In particular,
>> >> >> some of the problems you say some people have had sound serious to me.
>> >> >
>> >> > Which is exactly why you don't play with experimental versions of
>> >> > software unless you know what you're doing.
>> >>
>> >> The reason I posted here was to find out if in fact rpm 4 is
>> >> experimental or prone to problems. If you read my original post, you'll
>> >> see that I was unable to find any documentation for rpm 4 at all on the
>> >> www.rpm.org site -- not a word. All of the documentation there
>> >> is years old. Nevertheless, the link to rpm 4.0 is placed prominently
>> >> on the home page, labeled as the ``current latest release.'' At the
>> >> same time, the site claims, ``This site aims to bring you the latest and
>> >> most up to date information on the RPM software packaging tool
>> >> which is taking the world by storm.'' I consider this a little
>> >> irresponsible.
>> >>
>> >> I'd really like to encourage the Linux community to take this sort of
>> >> thing more seriously. In my opinion, documentation is as important
>> >> as code. If you release a new version of something, you have to say,
>> >> at the very least, ``This release fixes this and that ...'' or
``This release
>> >> is experimental,'' or ``This release introduces such and such
feature ...''
>> >> I think it's pretty dangerous and misleading that www.rpm.org has an
>> >> experimental version of rpm listed as the ``current latest release''.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, it's good at least to have helpful folks the newsgroups.
>> >
>> >Oh, i agree with you 100%.
>> >The problem with RPM project is its history. ALthough RedHat loves to
>> >have its name in the spotlight, and RPM certainly does that for it, its
>> >not until very recently (in the past year or so) that Redhat made *any*
>> >significant development contributions to rpm. Up until then rpm was
>> >nothing more than marketing for Redhat, while others who had no
>> >relationship to RedHat the company, did the bulk of the development
>> >work. Then all of a sudden, Redhat to get actively involved in the
>> >development of rpm again, and started to play little games with the
>> >other developers. In addition, they started to add 'features' to rpm
>> >which in effect broke alot of backwards compatibility, and then used
>> >their customer base as the guinea pigs via their distro releases.
>> >RedHat-7.0 is a perfect example, where they dumped rpm-4.0 out to the
>> >world, effectively changing the rules and forcing people to either jump
>> >through hoops to allow them to use the newest rpm packages, or to simply
>> >'use RedHat-7.0'. I don't think i need to spell out which company's
>> >tactics this mirrors.
>> >
>> >The bottom line here is that RPMs are a nice idea, however you should
>> >make an effort to be profficient with other means of getting new
>> >software on your linux system, that way you aren't dependent on what
>> >RedHat does.
>> >
>> However, the install Changes for the 2.4.0 kernel say that a new mkinitrd
>> "may be required" and provides a site to obtain the "latest" mkinitrd;
>> but, the mkinitrd is in rpm 4 format and no tarball is to be seen as the
>> site is redhat's rawhide area.
>>
>> It is such instances like that that make people scrambling for rpm 4 when
>> tarballs are not available for the required upgrade. Of course, this means
>> that the software authors should also make the tarballs available..:-).
>
>Are you sure about this? I find it quite hard to believe that something
>critical to building a kernel came only in one format. What are people
>using Debian supposed to do?
>
>--
The following is at the end of the Changes for 2.4.0 showing where to
get what files; my 2.4.0 was retrieved from www.kernel.org which wasn't
a distribution specific site, I thought...
The file is in rpm 4 format; however, SuSE has their own version called
mk_initrd which is larger (it is just a script). Perhaps Debian will have
their own; check your /sbin for mk*.
Mkinitrd
========
<ftp://rawhide.redhat.com/pub/rawhide/SRPMS/SRPMS/mkinitrd-2.5-1.src.rpm>
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From: Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling the Kernel
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:49:34 -0600
On 29 Jan 2001 13:44:37 +1100, Jimbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
had this to input in comp.os.linux.setup:
>Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm a newbie to Linux, and I'm trying to compile 2.4.0. I took
>> instructions from Mandrake's website, and have extracted the kernel
>> source and everything, but when I input the command "make xconfig", it
>> doesn't recognize the command "make". Is there something I could be
>> doing wrong? What's wrong?
>
>> TIA, I appreciate it.
>
>Are you executing make in the kernel source directory where the Makefile exists?
Yes, I have. It says that the command is not recognized or something.
This is weird.
--
Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ph33R m3 d00ds
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From: "SS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: error during kernal compiling..
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:59:31 -0500
Hello,
Hope someone here can help me out... I am running RH7 on IBM600X, 320mb
RAM, 12G HD...
I am getting this error during kernal compiling.. I see this after I type
"make bzImage" I didn't even modify the kernal. I recompiled it soon after
I installed RH.
I hope someone here may know what this is... THANKS
Sam
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make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernal'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernal'
make: *** [_dir_kernal] Error 2
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Subject: Sound busy when it really isn't
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor S. Miller)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 04:02:38 GMT
I'm running RH7.0 on a Pentium 166MMX with 64 MB memory.
When I run xmms or realplay or plaympeg, quite often (but not all the
time) I get a message displayed like the following, and a pop up
saying that the file couldn't be opened. I've very carefully verified
(using fuser) that no other program has /dev/dsp open, and usually
clicking play on xmms, for example, a few times, eventually makes
things work. A number of times this even comes up when xmms has a
playlist. It will go through the first 2 or three files, and then on
the next, this will happen. Does anyone have a suggestions about how
to get to the bottom of this (and fix it)?
** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp):
Device or resource busy
Victor
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Running Linux in RAM
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:55:03 +1000
entrys in /etc/inittab (the first script that runs when kernal is finished
loading.) take care of shutting down when a ups sends a signal to the com
port on the pc.
also a small distro like tomst (fits on a disk and loads everything to
memory on load so you could remove the disk.) might be the way to go.
mabey a network boot from a boot server.
ther was instructions at some site to make your own eprom boot card (circut
board diagram. and all) if your intrested in going that way i can find it
for you.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:92tm43$o49$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanks for the point. The thing is, the system must fail gracefully.
> It is in an industrial vehicle that controls hydraulics. I have a
> small UPS in there, but its job is to maintain stable power. When they
> turn off a switch on the console, it chops power to all of the servos,
> electronics and the computer.
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marble Head) wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <92rcue$toa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >I have a Linux machine in an industrial setting. The machine needs
> to
> > >be able to withstand any type of power interruption by rebooting
> itself
> > >without any user interaction.
> > >
> > >I checked out ReiserFS, but it seems that it still might require some
> > >intervention, and it's really not the right solution to my problem.
> > >
> > >I really want to run all of the kernel bits in RAM, and have the HDD
> > >mounted read only for all of the support software. The computer does
> > >not need to save any information permanently to the hard disk. It
> just
> > >needs to support multiuser mode.
> > >
> > >Is there some way to make an image, copy it to ramdisk, then launch
> > >from ramdisk?
> > >
> > >
> > >Sent via Deja.com
> > >http://www.deja.com/
> > >
> >
> > A beautiful example of such a thing is the Jumpstart CD for Alpha
> > processors, made by Compaq.
> > If you don't have an Alpha system handy to tinker with, here's the
> general
> > idea:
> > It mounts a ramdisk as / It then mounts the CD on /read-only (I
> made
> > that up.) In the / filesystem, there's not a single file to be
> found.
> > It's all softlinks to /read-only/whatever. (I probably made that up
> too.
> > Some files must be present, but they are minimal.)
> >
> > Hope that helps. But either way --
> > By approaching the problem of power failures, by thinking about the
> FS, I
> > think you're a little off the mark.
> > If you have a UPS, when the power fails, the kernel will be notified,
> a
> > timeout will be set, and the system will automatically power itself
> down
> > before the UPS is exhausted. If power is restored during that time,
> the
> > shutdown will be cancelled. If you have "Wake-on-power-on" or
> something
> > similar, the system will automatically power-on when the power comes
> back
> > on.
> > ...
> > That is, if you have it all configured properly.
> > It is far easier to configure your UPS than to configure your entire
> > distribution to be read-only.
> >
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: Bob Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot Problems Win98/RH7
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:05:12 -0800
BIOS is set to boot sequence of A,C.. DOS will not boot either from lilo, Win98
boot disk, or plain dos boot disk. Same response if trying to boot from lilo or
A: drive w/ boot disk. Computer will run through POST them access disk for
maybe 15 seconds them stop reading but hard drive continues to run. I don't get
any of the usual loading info and no prompt, everything just locks.. Tried
uninstalling lilo with /sbin/lilo -u with no help. I have mobile racks
installed on my computer so I can switch out drives. Put in a drive with dual
boot of 98 and NT, everything works fine including boot disks from floppy. With
the linux drive in Linux will boot from the boot disk with no problem.
Got any idea what I'm over looking here? This is a fresh install for both
programs so nothing can be lost, in fact if I could get to a dos prompt I'l
write 0s to the entire disk and start again.
Thanks for the response.......Bob
Mark Bratcher wrote:
> Bob Lewis wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, bad typing/proofreading on my part when I posted, current conf file
> > does read
> > other=/dev/hda1
> > label=dos
> > table=/dev/hda
> > Thanks for pointing that out though.. Bob
> >
> > Rasmus B�g Hansen wrote:
> >
>
> Bob,
>
> Did you say in your prior post that it also hangs if you attempt to boot
> DOS or Win98 command line of the floppy? What is your BIOS set for disk
> boot order? Is it C,A?
>
> --
> Mark Bratcher
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: Yan Deng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: I made a new driver for Netgear fa311 netcard working on RedHat
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:07:50 -0800
Hi Jim,
I have sent you an email with the new driver you need.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask me.
Gook luck,
Yan Deng
"James M. Wadkins" wrote:
> I just mad tthe mistak of upgrading to RedHAt 7.0 and now my Netgear
> FA311 CARDS don't work. I went to the Netgear site and download the
> patch they have but the instructions were so far of from anything that
> would make sense, can you give me soom advice to make these cards work
> again.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim W.
>
> freenux wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I bought a Netgear netcard fa311 and installed it and its dirver on my
> > RedHat Linux6.0. It worked well.
> >
> > After I upgraded RedHat Linux6.0 to RedHat 7.0 ( whose kernel
> > is 2.2.16-22 ), it did not work. Then I upgraded the linux kernel
> > from 2.2.16-22 to 2.4 , and modified the source file fa311.c that
> > Netgear company provides with the netcard and made a new driver
> > for the fa311 netcard working on RedHat Linux 7.0+ kernel 2.4.
> >
> > Does someone who needs a new driver for fa311 want to try to
> > use it(free)?
> >
> > and
> >
> > Can I provide the new source files of fa311 driver with or without
> > the agreement of Netgear company to public for free?
> >
> > Yan Deng
>
> --
> James Wadkins
> VTAT, Inc.
> 5429 Valley Wells Way
> Las Vegas, NV 89113
> 702-873-0480
> 702-873-0049 Fax
> http://www.vtat.com
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