Linux-Setup Digest #615, Volume #20              Mon, 12 Feb 01 12:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused (Jay & Michelle)
  Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused ("benh")
  Re: Kickstart on RedHat 7.0 problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused (Jay & Michelle)
  Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused ("benh")
  Re: Partitioning (Win95/Debian) (Rod Smith)
  Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused (Jay & Michelle)
  adding Printer from console (Greg F Walz Chojnacki)
  I have a problem in boot ("Abdelmajid ZAHRAOUI")
  Re: Partitioning (Win95/Debian) (Eric)
  Shutting down RH7 impossible ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: /usr/src/linux??? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Increase INODES? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: hostname (Herb Stein)
  httpd fails on startup ("Rick")
  linux from scratch (DOS, modem & floppies) (DTi4565459)
  Linux from CD ("PuddingTarzan")
  Re: httpd fails on startup (aflinsch)
  Mounting Windoze partitions from Linux problem. ("Rich Somerfield")
  VMware version that will run under VGA (DTi4565459)
  Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? (Zsolt Zsoldos)

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From: Jay & Michelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:15:38 GMT

Ok then read between the lines and GOTO WWW.PHOENIX.COM and READ.




benh wrote:

>     There is no advanced menu and no option to do with the OS in my BIOS
> Setup (Phoenix 1.10 A19). There are 2 pages of options accessed by using
> "Alt-P" or something. Unless there's some obscure way to get to the advanced
> options?
>     Do I need to upgrade my BIOS?
>
> "Jay & Michelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I just went to www.phoenix.com for you. Being up early and it's a nice day
> > today.
> > In your andvanced menu it asks : Installed Operating system. select OTHER.


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From: "benh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:35:23 -0000

Yes, thanks for that - I'd already looked through the Phoenix site - there's
no information about such an old BIOS. Basically, it looks like there's no
option to change PnP settings from within the BIOS that I have.
So, (possible BIOS upgrade aside) secondary question - if I go ahead and
install, does this mean that Linux won't be able to find any devices since
Windows is handling the PnP stuff? Or does it mean that PnP is being handled
by the BIOS already?
[I ran the pnpbtst.exe utility (http://www.phoenix.com/products/util.html)
and it found nodes which means that PnP is supported by the system - so
presumably this is being done by Windows?]

Thanks for your patience - I have read lots of info online about this but
most of the Linux docs assume you can disable PnP OS support or similar, and
the BIOS resources don't address this.

"Jay & Michelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ok then read between the lines and GOTO WWW.PHOENIX.COM and READ.
>
>
>
>
> benh wrote:
>
> >     There is no advanced menu and no option to do with the OS in my BIOS
> > Setup (Phoenix 1.10 A19). There are 2 pages of options accessed by using
> > "Alt-P" or something. Unless there's some obscure way to get to the
advanced
> > options?
> >     Do I need to upgrade my BIOS?
> >
> > "Jay & Michelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I just went to www.phoenix.com for you. Being up early and it's a nice
day
> > > today.
> > > In your andvanced menu it asks : Installed Operating system. select
OTHER.
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kickstart on RedHat 7.0 problems
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:25:43 GMT

Order does matter in the kickstart file.  Try putting your "lang" entry
at the top of file instead of after the "network" and "nfs" directives.


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From: Jay & Michelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:54:12 GMT

Plunk Linux into it, and go from there then.If it's that old you shouldn't have
to much trouble :)


benh wrote:

> Yes, thanks for that - I'd already looked through the Phoenix site - there's
> no information about such an old BIOS. Basically, it looks like there's no
> option to change PnP settings from within the BIOS that I have.
> So, (possible BIOS upgrade aside) secondary question - if I go ahead and
> install, does this mean that Linux won't be able to find any devices since
> Windows is handling the PnP stuff? Or does it mean that PnP is being handled
> by the BIOS already?
> [I ran the pnpbtst.exe utility (http://www.phoenix.com/products/util.html)
> and it found nodes which means that PnP is supported by the system - so
> presumably this is being done by Windows?]
>
> Thanks for your patience - I have read lots of info online about this but
> most of the Linux docs assume you can disable PnP OS support or similar, and
> the BIOS resources don't address this.
>
> "Jay & Michelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Ok then read between the lines and GOTO WWW.PHOENIX.COM and READ.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > benh wrote:
> >
> > >     There is no advanced menu and no option to do with the OS in my BIOS
> > > Setup (Phoenix 1.10 A19). There are 2 pages of options accessed by using
> > > "Alt-P" or something. Unless there's some obscure way to get to the
> advanced
> > > options?
> > >     Do I need to upgrade my BIOS?
> > >
> > > "Jay & Michelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I just went to www.phoenix.com for you. Being up early and it's a nice
> day
> > > > today.
> > > > In your andvanced menu it asks : Installed Operating system. select
> OTHER.
> >


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From: "benh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:06:26 -0000

I think I'll just have to go ahead and do that ... I wonder what will
happen?

"Jay & Michelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Plunk Linux into it, and go from there then.If it's that old you shouldn't
have
> to much trouble :)
>
>
> benh wrote:
>
> > Yes, thanks for that - I'd already looked through the Phoenix site -
there's
> > no information about such an old BIOS. Basically, it looks like there's
no
> > option to change PnP settings from within the BIOS that I have.
> > So, (possible BIOS upgrade aside) secondary question - if I go ahead and
> > install, does this mean that Linux won't be able to find any devices
since
> > Windows is handling the PnP stuff? Or does it mean that PnP is being
handled
> > by the BIOS already?
> > [I ran the pnpbtst.exe utility
(http://www.phoenix.com/products/util.html)
> > and it found nodes which means that PnP is supported by the system - so
> > presumably this is being done by Windows?]
> >
> > Thanks for your patience - I have read lots of info online about this
but
> > most of the Linux docs assume you can disable PnP OS support or similar,
and
> > the BIOS resources don't address this.
> >
> > "Jay & Michelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Ok then read between the lines and GOTO WWW.PHOENIX.COM and READ.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > benh wrote:
> > >
> > > >     There is no advanced menu and no option to do with the OS in my
BIOS
> > > > Setup (Phoenix 1.10 A19). There are 2 pages of options accessed by
using
> > > > "Alt-P" or something. Unless there's some obscure way to get to the
> > advanced
> > > > options?
> > > >     Do I need to upgrade my BIOS?
> > > >
> > > > "Jay & Michelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > I just went to www.phoenix.com for you. Being up early and it's a
nice
> > day
> > > > > today.
> > > > > In your andvanced menu it asks : Installed Operating system.
select
> > OTHER.
> > >
>



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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Partitioning (Win95/Debian)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:11:28 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Rahul Chandra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've decided I want to dual boot Win95 and Debian GNU/Linux.  So I used
> Partition Magic (4.0 for DOS) to shrink my Windows partition (from ~6.5
> GB to ~3.5 GB), and create Linux Swap and Linux ext2fs partitions.  But
> when I boot (using the boot.bat on the install CD, in DOS mode), it
> tells me no swap partition is there, and the linux fdisk-style program
> indicates only 1 partition, taking up 6.5 GB.  DOS FDISK does recognize
> the 3 partitions, though the 2 linux ones are just called type
> "Non-DOS".

This sounds bad. I can't say I know what's wrong, but I can recommend a
course of action:

1) Back up Windows to tape. (Do it twice for safety.)
2) Wipe all partitions.
3) Create new partitions.
4) Restore Windows from tape.
5) Install Linux.

My hunch is that your partition table is corrupt in some subtle way that
lets some programs and OSs function but that causes problems for others.
If I'm right, this could jump up and bite you at any time, hence my
recommendation to completely re-do your system.

It's possible that something like Norton Utilities could fix whatever's
wrong with the partition table, but it's also possible that it'd just
cause more problems, so I wouldn't try it before backing up.

Perhaps somebody else has seen these symptoms, and can offer an easier
solution.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: Jay & Michelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plug and Play and BIOS - confused
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:13:31 GMT

The worst? You'll have to beat on your IRQ's to get your sound card to work.



benh wrote:

> I think I'll just have to go ahead and do that ... I wonder what will
> happen?
>


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From: Greg F Walz Chojnacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: adding Printer from console
Date: 12 Feb 2001 15:19:07 GMT

I recently reinstalled RH 6.2 (don't ask!) and selected the server option.

For some reason, Xwindows wasn't installed, and my printcap file is devoid
of entries. (It's not empty: There's a dire warnign abotu editing it.

Anyway, I don't have Xwindows running, and I'd liek to add my IBM 4029 laser
printer. 

Can someone point the way to doing this? I need to share the printer via
samba. 

I guess a printcap entry for this printer would suffice.

Also, if anyone can clue me in, I can't get Xwindows running becuase when I
try to unpack the XFree86-Setup rpm, I get errors: "libtcl.so" and
"libkk.so" are needed. Where are those?

Thanks

Greg
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]            UWM University Communications         414/229-4454
http://www.uwm.edu/News/                                     FAX:414/229-6443



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From: "Abdelmajid ZAHRAOUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
3dfx.glide.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.x,linux.dev.x11
Subject: I have a problem in boot
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:27:52 +0100


I have installed Linux and I want to suppress it from my hard disk, but
the bios boot in Linux even if I have installes winnt in the hard disk.

if anyone know how to do for access at bios?

thank you



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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitioning (Win95/Debian)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:38:08 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rahul Chandra wrote:

> I've decided I want to dual boot Win95 and Debian GNU/Linux.  So I used
> Partition Magic (4.0 for DOS) to shrink my Windows partition (from ~6.5
> GB to ~3.5 GB), and create Linux Swap and Linux ext2fs partitions.  But
> when I boot (using the boot.bat on the install CD, in DOS mode), it
> tells me no swap partition is there, and the linux fdisk-style program
> indicates only 1 partition, taking up 6.5 GB.  DOS FDISK does recognize
> the 3 partitions, though the 2 linux ones are just called type
> "Non-DOS".
>
> I've also tried deleting those partitions, just leaving the FAT32 one
> for Win95 (~3.5 GB), and the rest as free space.  Again, linux fdisk
> says I have one partition taking up 6.5 GB.  So it won't let me create
> partitions from there.
>
> Not that this is the greatest indicator, but Windows also agrees that I
> have a 3.5 GB HD.
>
> I'm completely stumped now -- I haven't heard of this problem in HOWTOs
> or other documentation I've read, trying to prepare for GNU/Linux. Any
> help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> If I can't do anything else, I might try booting off floppies, using
> linux fdisk to delete win partition and create 2 for linux, reinstalling
> windows, then installing GNU/Linux, but I really don't want to format
> again.  I always forget something when backing up.
>

Sound as if PM resized the FS, but didn't update the partition table.
If windows is sure that you have a 3.5G partition, you can try to find the
CHS values that belong to that FS.
(Use PM for it) Then you can use linux' fdisk from a rescue system to
delete the current partition and recreate one, with the CHS values you
found.
This is an action where you should back-up before you start. If you make a
typo, you can easily make all data inaccesible. If all goes well though,
you won't need to reinstall windows.

Eric


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Shutting down RH7 impossible
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:27:57 GMT

Hello,

I am running Linux RH7 on a DELL Dimension 4100 box and cannot shut it
down with the command poweroff.

I compiled my 2.4.1 Kernel with APM ON, and any sub-option but
'storing RTC in GMT format' is ON.

Has anybody already sloved that problem ? If yes, please tell my how ?


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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /usr/src/linux???
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:46:15 GMT

Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12 Feb 2001 6:31:35 -0500, "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:

>>While I'll have to plead to not reading that readme recently,

> Please do it now. The information is new since 2.4.0, it was not mentioned
> in 2.2.18.

It doesn't matter. That's just their opinion. I don't agree with it, and
I'll stick to the classic way, thanks. If you do things the "new" way it
fouls up thrd party module compilation.

> This was the *old* strategy that was valid until 2.2.18. I used it myself on
> a regular basis.

And it's perfectly valid today. Nothing old or new about it.

> You can still do so, but not under /usr/src/. As I told before, I have

You can do anything you like. I assure that that's where I have my
link to the kernel sources, and that /usr/include/linux is a link
to /usr/src/linux/include/linux. There's nothing wrong with it.

> I really would like to have this strategy verified by an expert, I just
> *hope* it is alright. However, I upgraded from 2.4.0 to 2.4.1 without

Everything is just hunky dory.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Increase INODES?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:40:52 GMT

I just configured an INND server on Red Hat Linux 6.2. I have a problem
of running out of INODES on the filesystem where the articles are
stored.

Is there a way to increase the number of INODES without recreating the
filesystem? If not, what command would I use to recreate the filesystem
and increase the INODES?

Marco Bayarena, MCSE
Harris County CTC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hostname
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:44:42 -0600

On my RedHat machine, I change the IP address and/or host name
by editing these files:

        /etc/hosts
        /etc/resolv.conf
        /etc/sysconfig/network
        /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

Hope this helps.

Tom wrote:

> Hi, all. I use RH7.0 and I want to change the hostname, but I encounter
> problems. My default name is "localhost.localdoamin", I change it to
> "soybean.apple" and send email use PINE. I find the email address has
> changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunately, when I reboot it next time,
> the hostname has changed to "localhost.locadoamin"! I try to change it to
> "something.com", it's ok, the only problem is that it cannot be shut down or
> reboot. I change it just do "#hostname soybean.apple". Is it because I
> forget anything??
> Thanks!


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From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: httpd fails on startup
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:03:19 GMT

I have a new istallation of RH7.
httpd says it failed during boot.
Looking at my error messages, I get "httpd: cannot determine local host
name. Use ServerName directive to set it manually".
I am using a Linksys router as DHCP server.
Everything else seems to be working.

What can I put in (and where) so that httpd can find a local host name to
make it happy?

Thanks.

Rick



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DTi4565459)
Date: 12 Feb 2001 16:20:11 GMT
Subject: linux from scratch (DOS, modem & floppies)


I have looked at the Linux from Scratch virtual book, and find it a little
confusing for this newbie.  Also, have trouble finding some of the rpm's that
are required.  Is there another way?  For my own education, I would like to
start with a minimal linux like CClinux.  Then add a terminal (like the old
Win3.1 terminal) so I can dial to ISP.  Then lynx to an ftp site, like Debian. 
And then start to build a system that would include X, KDE, a dial-up
networking connection, and finally Netscape.  
I know, your first thought is why doesn't the newbie get an easy install CDROM.
 Well, I've done that on some desktops; but I want to do it now on a laptop
where the ext PCMCIA CDROM keeps crashing the kernel.  Thanks in advance for
clues.
           dave

http://www.columbia.edu/~mdt1/

(1 = one, not little L; and don't forget the trailing / )

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From: "PuddingTarzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Linux from CD
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:19:53 +0100

Hi,

I'm trying to make a cd on which Linux has been installed. I'm still
thinking how I should do this. Does anyone know this is possible? If yes,
how should I work on this problem? What are known problems for Linux on CD?

Greetings,
Koen



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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: httpd fails on startup
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:22:36 -0600

Rick wrote:
> 
> I have a new istallation of RH7.
> httpd says it failed during boot.
> Looking at my error messages, I get "httpd: cannot determine local host
> name. Use ServerName directive to set it manually".
> I am using a Linksys router as DHCP server.
> Everything else seems to be working.
> 
> What can I put in (and where) so that httpd can find a local host name to
> make it happy?
> 

Sounds like httpd is starting before you get a new address from dhcpd.

Try changing httpd to start after you get a new address or 
add a ServerName entry in httpd.conf (instructions are in the file)

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From: "Rich Somerfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mounting Windoze partitions from Linux problem.
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:35:11 -0000

Hi,

I have installed SuSE 6.4 (2.2.14 kernel).  I want to mount my windoze
(Win98SE) partitions in linux so i can share files (i also want to have my
netscape browsers using the same info / mail boxes (on win/linux), is this
possible?).

The problem is, is that i keep on getting an error when i try and mount.  I
am using the following command:

mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /dos_c

The error i get is something like "wrong major / minor numbers".

I have got a 30GB h/drive.  I have 3 win partitions (c - 2gb, d - 10gb, e -
10gb).  Linux is 8GB.

I have listed the devices (ls -l /dev/hda*) and i can see the values for the
major / minor numbers, i just dont know what to do with them.

I have scoured the internet for information so this is my last port of call,
please help as it has been bugging me for a long time now!

Regards
Rich





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DTi4565459)
Date: 12 Feb 2001 16:44:56 GMT
Subject: VMware version that will run under VGA

Just shelled out about $70 for current version of VMware Express, but it fails
to load because "No XFree 86 DGA support for this X Screen" and "Only
true-color X server visuals are supported." Failed to initialize SVGA device."

Well, all I really need to do is run some DOS and Win 3.1 programs, and 16
color is fine.  Is there an earlier version of VMware that will run in VGA? 
I've tried the VMware site without success; and they have not answered request
for e-support by filing incident report.

TIA,
           dave

http://www.columbia.edu/~mdt1/

(1 = one, not little L; and don't forget the trailing / )

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From: Zsolt Zsoldos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:45:38 GMT

Hi All,

I was an enthusiastic linux user for the past 5 years, but now Mandrake 7.2
got me really frustrated, so that I have to tell you about it...

First a bit of historical background about me and Linux:
I started using Linux in 1996 with Slackware (prior to that I was a Unix
user on SGI and SUN boxes) went through the hard learning curve of tweaking
all the setup and configuration files and scripts by hand getting it up and
operational with X-windows on a then-latest graphics card which was only
supported by the latest beta release of X at the time. few month later I
learned about the existence of RedHat 4.0 and was amazed how easy it was to 
setup... Then I stayed with RH upgrading as they came out upto 5.2.
Then I switched to Caldera which I found even better, professional,
not just easy to configure and maintain but also well geared for 
professional usage and development (BTW I am a software developer, so I
work on these boxes not just play or have fun with them). Finally,
last summer I switched to Mandrake 7.1, because the latest Caldera
release (2.3/2.4) had outdated kernel and X and I could not get my
new nVidia graphics card working on it with hardware accelerated OpenGL
without some major hand-upgrades and kernel compilation (which I tried to
avoid to keep my life simpler and be able to focus on my work instead
of system administration). Also, there are a lot more RPMs available for 
Mandrake on the net, so it seems worth switching...

Now my rant:
A lot of RPM packages, that I could download from the net were packaged
with a newer version of RPM and the one included in Mandrake 7.1 could not
handle them. Funny, that even the new version of 'rpm' was packed with
that, so I've seen no way to get around this problem other than upgrade
to 7.2 which had a newer rpm in it. OK, I bought Mandrake "COMPLETE"
the 4CD version from Macmillan Software. Compared to my previous 2CD
version 7.1. it is rather incomplete!

1. Upgrade from 7.1 to 7.2 via the install CD 'upgrade' option does not work.
   It fails real bad, falls into an infinite loop, can't even shutdown
   gracefully - have to get drastic and press reset.

2. Installing 'on top' of 7.1 without that being wiped out gets into an
   unusable state, package manager crazy, basic things (like terminals) crash.

3. OK, let's try a format / partition and clean install... I get a choice
   of installing packages from minimal (300MB) to ALL, which states 800MB,
   which sounds rather small as my 7.1 install was over 2GB. Anyway I go
   ahead and install everything I could choose. I get the system up and
   running. But then I find out it is pretty useless:

Things missing from a full install (all packages) of Mandrake 7.2 COMPLETE:
- no C++ libraries, headers or compiler
- no gcc installed - WHAT? Full linux without gcc ???
- no telnet, ftp, nfs servers
- no cvs
- no nslookup

... and probably many more things missing, this is as much as I came across
in half a day so far.

4. Fortunately, some of these are on the CDs, so I could install them AFTER
   the so-called full installation. Another frustration here is the RpmDrake
   GUI software, which tend to crash if some conflicts or missing dependencies
   come up during installation. After crash, you have to figure out how far
   it got installing the selected packages and you have to select the remaining
   ones again and go ahead until the next crash... and iterate...


5. Some of the missing packages are not even on the CDs, e.g. cvs does not come
   with Mandrake 7.2 Complete. It was in 7.1... 

In conclusion: Mandrake 7.2 provides a very flashy install and boot system,
doesn't ask any questions about the hardware (autodetected everything fine)
and installs a desktop system which is fine for general office usage and
web browsing. BUT, it does not have even basic development and server tools
necessary for a LAN. So, it is a perfect replacement for windoze - 
home users welcome to the linux community! 
On the other hand, old timer developers like me should stay away from it!

Is this a new trend or I just picked the wrong distribution ?
Anybody care to comment on RedHat 7.x or other distribution's newest versions
from the developer's pont of view ? Are they also stripped down ?

Have a good day,
-- 
Zsolt Zsoldos

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