Linux-Setup Digest #616, Volume #20 Mon, 12 Feb 01 14:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: /usr/src/linux??? (Paul Kimoto)
LILO: Two versions of RH. Two different hardrives. How? (Lyndon Bartels)
Re: Easy Firewall Questions ("Peter T. Breuer")
netscape and true type fonts (Ferdinand Badescu)
Re: mounting udf discs as nonroot (Gregory Davis)
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? ("Chris Coyle")
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? (Richard Kimber)
Re: Howto stop the xdm login (level 5) and get a console? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Conflict with UDMA Hard drive (Gary)
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Alsa Driver Question (Gary Daniels)
qmail question ("tin")
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? (Vahe Sarkissian)
Re: kernel build error: `smp_num_cpus' undeclared (David Cecere)
Multiboot Win2k and linux ("Costas Gavardinas")
Re: rc.d question (Keith Rhodes)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: /usr/src/linux???
Date: 12 Feb 2001 12:20:26 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eggert Ehmke wrote:
> The information is new since 2.4.0, it was not mentioned
> in 2.2.18.
Sure, but the advice (and reasoning) is also applicable to 2.2.*.
--
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: Lyndon Bartels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: LILO: Two versions of RH. Two different hardrives. How?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:29:44 GMT
Hello,
I want to be able to dual-boot my linux box.. but with a twist.
I want to run it with two versions of RedHat.
Originally, I started out with RH v7.0. I installed LILO in the MBR of
the first disk. (I had 3 SCSI hard drives.)
Next, I added a 4th drive, partitioned it the way I wanted, and
installed RH 7.1 Beta on those partitions. I'm re-using /tmp, /home, and
the swap partitions.
What I Didn't do, was to change any of the original LILO configurations.
I didn't want to accidentally change any of the 7.0 boot configurations.
Next, I want to alter the v7.0 lilo.conf so that I can boot to 7.0 by
default, or boot to 7.1 by choice.
v7.0's '/' partition is /dev/sda1. (I have no /boot partition)
v7.1's '/' partition is /dev/sdd1.
I made the '/' partitions identical in size, etc.
My current lilo.conf is as follows:
boot=/dev/sda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
linear
default=linux
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
label=linux
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.16-22,img
read-only
root=/dev/sda1
So far I'm thinking of adding:
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.-0-.99.11
label=fisher
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
read-only
root=/dev/sdd1
I got "initrd.img" from the boot floppy I created during the 7.1
install. But should I make another one? etc.?
Thanks in advance,
Lyndon
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Easy Firewall Questions
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:20:13 +0100
John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> In article <965mj7$1oo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Spook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Server and Workstation installs a number of potentially dangerous
>>>>services/daemons (at least when you run a firewall).
>>> Such as ? And can't packet filtering on the Internet interface keep you
>>> safe ?
>>That's a matter of opinion.
> Why ? If all the risky packets are excluded, what can the risk be ?
And which ARE the risky packets, in your opinion?
> I was hoping to set up a single Linux machine as a NAT router and
> firewall, but I was hoping to use the same machine as a mail gateway to
If you are planning to do this, then fine. You'll have to get
knowledgable, so you might as well start out on that route.
> I know many sites use a different security model based on an Internet
> facing NAT router which talks to a semi-secure LAN which has another
> packet filtering firewall / gateway into a secure LAN.
> I don't know which way to jump. I have enough kit to implement the two
> gateway scheme, but unless it's significantly more secure I'd rather not
> because of the volume and power consumption of the extra kit.
You'll be as safe as the proxies on the firewall are, if there are any.
> In a single router / firewall system, how easy to reduce risks by
> binding potentially risky services to the in house LAN only ?
Well, most services listen on a port. They don't "bind" to anything.
Whether you make that port accesible to outsiders is up to you in your
firewalling rules. By default, don't.
> I guess what I'm trying to say is that however insecure a service may
> be, if it's not bound to the Internet interface, can it possibly
> prevent a threat ?
Well, it can be, indirectly.
> a) how easy is it know what services are running on a box
Do you need to? Why? Just firewall off the whole thing and only let
those services you want in. Anyone at all can start a service on any
port above 1024.
> b) how easy it to configure what interfaces a service binds to ?
Why should one want to? The whole point of a firewall is that you
decide which ports are available to whom.
> Sorry - I'm not even sure what the localhost interface is really there
> for ! ( Newbie ! )
So you can talk to yourself.
>> Sure, you can configure each and
>>every service every which way you like .. provided you know you have
>>them, and provided you know what to do with them, and provided you
>>know how to do it.
> OK, so where can you find out ?
Read their documetation.
Peter
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From: Ferdinand Badescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscape and true type fonts
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:45:40 -0800
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I have installed True Type fonts on my machine (RH 6.2, kernel
2.2.14-5.0), and everything seems to work all right, except...in
Netscape (v 4.76) when I choose one of the True Type fonts, I cannot
change the size. Under "Preferences"/"Fonts" the true Type fonts are
listed either as Bitstream or Monotype type, and they have only two
sizes: 0 and 12 pts. For all other fonts, listed as Adobe type I can
cange the sizes from 0 - 24 pts.
What did I do wrong ? Is there something I can do to change the font
size in Netscape ?
My "catalogue" section under the /etc/X11/fs/config file shows like the
following:
catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1,
/usr/share/fonts/TrueType
Thanks for your help.
********************************************
Ferdinand Badescu
Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, U.C. Irvine
Irvine, CA 92697
Tel: 949-824-8094
Fax: 949-824-2174
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have installed True T<font face="Times New Roman,Times">ype fonts </font>on
my machine (RH 6.2, kernel 2.2.14-5.0), and everything seems to work all
right, except...in Netscape (v 4.76) when I choose one of the <font face="Times New
Roman,Times"><font size=+2>True
Type fonts, I cannot change the size. Under "Preferences"/"Fonts" the true
Type fonts are listed either as Bitstream or Monotype type, and they have
only two sizes: 0 and 12 pts. For all other fonts, listed as Adobe type
I can cange the sizes from 0 - 24 pts.</font></font><font face="Times New
Roman,Times"><font size=+2></font></font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font size=+2>What did I do wrong
? Is there something I can do to change the font size in Netscape ?</font></font><font
face="Times New Roman,Times"><font size=+2></font></font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font size=+2>My "catalogue" section
under the /etc/X11/fs/config file shows like the following:</font></font><font
face="Times New Roman,Times"><font size=+2></font></font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font size=+2>catalogue =
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font
size=+2> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font
size=+2> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font
size=+2> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font
size=+2> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font
size=+2> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font
size=+2> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font
size=+2> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font
size=+2> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font
size=+2> /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font
size=+2> /usr/share/fonts/TrueType</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font size=+2></font></font> <font
face="Times New Roman,Times"><font size=+2></font></font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font size=+2>Thanks for your help.</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman,Times"><font size=+2></font></font>
<p>********************************************
<br>Ferdinand Badescu
<br>Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, U.C. Irvine
<br>Irvine, CA 92697
<br>Tel: 949-824-8094
<br>Fax: 949-824-2174
<br>email: <a href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>
<br> <a
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>
<p>********************************************
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From: Gregory Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: mounting udf discs as nonroot
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:50:14 -0500
Gregory Davis wrote:
> I am trying to mount a udf cd in KDE as a user. Just clicking the
> desktop icon to mount a cd mounts the cd as an iso9660 filesystem. When
> I run "mount /dev/cdrom1 /burner -t udf" I get an error message saying
> only root has permission to do that. If I use the "su" command, I can
> mount the cd; however, I want to mount the cd as a user. How do I
> seduce "mount" into mounting the disc for me?
>
> Greg
Someone pointed out that I should have auto set in fstab, and that udf
should be in filesystems. They are, and are attached at bottom. The
problem is only root can mount a udf disc- anywhere- in my system. I think
that's silly and want to change that.
fstab:
/dev/hda1 /windows vfat noauto,user 0 0
/dev/hda3 / ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hda4 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 2
/dev/hda5 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/cdrom /cdrom auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/cdrom1 /burner auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy auto noauto,user 0 0
filesystems:
nodev sockfs
nodev shm
nodev pipefs
nodev proc
ext2
minix
vfat
iso9660
udf
nodev autofs
nodev devpts
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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:55:03 -0500
"Zsolt Zsoldos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi All,
>
> [ETC]
> Is this a new trend or I just picked the wrong distribution ?
> Anybody care to comment on RedHat 7.x or other distribution's newest versions
> from the developer's pont of view ? Are they also stripped down ?
>
> Have a good day,
> --
> Zsolt Zsoldos
Yeah, I also found Mandrake a big disappoinment.
I'm definitely going to avoid that one.
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From: Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:23:13 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 3. OK, let's try a format / partition and clean install... I get a choice
> of installing packages from minimal (300MB) to ALL, which states 800MB,
> which sounds rather small as my 7.1 install was over 2GB. Anyway I go
> ahead and install everything I could choose. I get the system up and
> running. But then I find out it is pretty useless:
>
> Things missing from a full install (all packages) of Mandrake 7.2
> COMPLETE: - no C++ libraries, headers or compiler
> - no gcc installed - WHAT? Full linux without gcc ???
> - no telnet, ftp, nfs servers
> - no cvs
> - no nslookup
..
>
> In conclusion: Mandrake 7.2 provides a very flashy install and boot
> system, doesn't ask any questions about the hardware (autodetected
> everything fine) and installs a desktop system which is fine for general
> office usage and web browsing. BUT, it does not have even basic
> development and server tools necessary for a LAN. So, it is a perfect
> replacement for windoze - home users welcome to the linux community!
> On the other hand, old timer developers like me should stay away from it!
>
> Is this a new trend or I just picked the wrong distribution ?
No, you just installed it wrongly. I've recently installed 7.2 and have
not had these problems. IMHO the best option is to choose the 'developer'
installation and then choose exactly which packages you want installed. It
takes a while to trawl through the list, but it's worth it. You could of
course choose the 'expert' installation option if you really know what
you're doing. There is also a 'server' package. These categories are
somewhat arbitrary - that's why I select individual packages.
- Richard.
--
Richard Kimber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Howto stop the xdm login (level 5) and get a console?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:32:10 +0100
Malcolm Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I type "I" following Mandrake screen prompt to break in,
> but don't seem to be able to turn off the auto login.
> Any suggestions would be most helpful!!!
> Malcolm
uninstall xdm! It's a pain
try: rpm -e xdm
jonas
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From: Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Conflict with UDMA Hard drive
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:23:55 -0500
Jerome DESMOULINS wrote:
> I have install a Redhat 6.1 on this disk, but I have a conflict with my
> parallel port. Apparently, the hard drive use the addresses normally
> used by my parallel port.
The hard drive doesn't use a port, the IDE controller uses
it, and they
are 1F0, and 170. The Parallel port can be 3BC, 378, or
another of which
the I/O address escapes me at the moment.
The IDE controller will not use any other resources like
interrupts that can
conflict with any parallel port.
You didn't say what led you to believe that there was a
conflict, but I doubt
it is the two devices you mention. It's more likely that you
have violated some
other architectural quirk like sharing int5 which was
historically dedicated
to LPT2 with another device like a serial port or sound
card.
Regards,
Gary
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:28:10 GMT
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:45:38 GMT, Zsolt Zsoldos
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I was an enthusiastic linux user for the past 5 years, but now Mandrake 7.2
>got me really frustrated, so that I have to tell you about it...
>
>First a bit of historical background about me and Linux:
>I started using Linux in 1996 with Slackware (prior to that I was a Unix
This is what some of us have been complaining about for weeks with
respect to Mandrake 7.2.
The install process has a mind of it's own and subsequent installs on
fresh hard disks produce different results.
You are fortunate in that you have the experience to know how to
repair the install.
I am not and I doubt a newbie would spend that much time trying to
make it work properly.
FWIW I had the Official Deluxe/Complete boxed version of Mandrake 7.2.
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: Gary Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Alsa Driver Question
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:44:07 -0500
While installing alsa-driver using configure I get the error:
========================================================================
[root@localhost alsa-driver-0.4.1e]# ./configure
loading cache ./config.cache
cheching for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
cannot create executables.
========================================================================
I using Mandrake 7.0 an did a recommend install.
Was C compiler (gcc ) not installed?
How can I check to see if it was?
Or is my troubles somewhere else?
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From: "tin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux,alt.linux,alt.os.linux.best,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.security,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: qmail question
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 02:31:20 +0800
may i know how to synchronize two different
box of qmail (email data , account and password)
using which software (easy config)
coda? Intermezzo ? GFS?
thank you very much?
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From: Vahe Sarkissian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:43:16 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, zsolt-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi All,
>
> I was an enthusiastic linux user for the past 5 years, but now Mandrake 7.2
> got me really frustrated, so that I have to tell you about it...
<SNIP>
> Things missing from a full install (all packages) of Mandrake 7.2 COMPLETE:
> - no C++ libraries, headers or compiler
> - no gcc installed - WHAT? Full linux without gcc ???
Heh. When you're installing, select the "expert" option -- you sound
like an expert -- and answer "yes" when it asks if you know what you're
doing. Then select a "developer" installation and you'll get everything.
Me, I like to pick-and-choose, so I go through the whole package list and
select individual ones. If you do that, just turn off the "automatic
dependencies" option or it will remove previously-selected packages
silently if you choose not to install a later component.
BTW, I figured this out around my third or fourth Mandrake install, so
don't feel bad.
I like the Mandrake installer, actually. I also go back many years with
Unix and Linux, and I started using MDK when I learned it could
automatically detect my ATA-66 controllers. So far I'm happy with it.
By the way, you don't have to buy the MacMillan boxes. $3.99 at any
online Linux store (cheapbytes, linux central) will get you the install
CD-ROMs, which are all you really need.
Anyways, good luck.
--Vahe Sarkissian
If you can't figure out my email address, don't bother
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From: David Cecere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel build error: `smp_num_cpus' undeclared
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:55:41 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I had a similar problem trying to recompile RH 7 kernel 2.2.16 using
xconfig. I did the make mrproper and make clean. I finally had to edit
the .config file by hand to exclude the incorrectly included options.
On 10 Jan 2001 23:26:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (doug reeder)
wrote:
>
>I'm trying to recompile the kernel (kernel 2.2.12 from the Red Hat 6.1
>distribution) on a HP Visualize PC (like an HP Kayak, but with a
>slot for a second processor). Only one processor is installed, so I
>said NO to 'symmetric multi-processing support' in 'make xconfig' so
>the kernel would run a tad faster.
>
>make dep and make clean run without problems.
>
>But, when I run 'make bzdisk', compilation halts with the error:
>
>In file included from ksyms.c:17:
>/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:44: `smp_num_cpus' undeclared
>(first use in this function)
>/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:44: (Each undeclared identifier is
>reported only once
>/usr/src/linux-2.2.12/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:44: for each function it appears
>in.)
>make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
>
>
>
>I've never encounted this problem when rebuilding the kernel on our Kayaks
>running Red Hat 6.1.
>
>The processor is a 600 MHz Pentium III.
>
>Any suggestions other than re-compiling with 'Symmetric multi-processing
>support' set to YES ?
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From: "Costas Gavardinas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux
Subject: Multiboot Win2k and linux
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:02:26 +0200
I have Linux installed in the secondary partition of my first hard disk. I
also have installed Windows 2000 pro and win98. I am using the Win2k boot
selector for windows and I boot linux from a boot disk. Is there perhaps a
way to integrate a "Linux" option to the win2k boot menu, so that I don't
have to use a boot disk. Thank you for your help!
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From: Keith Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: rc.d question
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:01:20 +0100
Try man chkconfig !
You might need to do
export MANPATH=/usr/share/man
first.
KR
tin wrote:
> hi all:
> i want to make a file call abc run on in level 3 and 5
>
> after i add #chkconfig: xx xxx xx xxx in file abc
> 1. copy abc to /etc/rc.d/init.d
> 2. chkconfig --level 3 abc on
> than have a error message
> service abc does not support chkconfig
> i'm doing work or missing something
--
==
I don't like spammers. So take the warning
out of my address before you reply.
++
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