Linux-Setup Digest #658, Volume #20 Sun, 18 Feb 01 21:13:11 EST
Contents:
Lost Win98 when Installing RH7 (Paul Chapman)
Re: connect, but unable to browse (Michael Heiming)
Re: connect, but unable to browse ("Dave")
Re: default route ("Dave")
recompile distribution & modules make errors at boot time (Nicolas)
Re: Lost Win98 when Installing RH7 (Michael Heiming)
Re: connect, but unable to browse (H.Bruijn)
Re: Problem for newbie ("Brian")
Redhat loader and NAT ("Charles")
Re: connect, but unable to browse ("Matt Ng")
USB 4 port adapter (Six)
Re: Modem -- lights flash but no-ones in... (E J)
Re: I cannot browse!! from dialup into Linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
scanner
Logs telnetd & ftpd (Jeff Moore)
Re: Entry-level newbie question--which distribution? (Rob Weaver)
Re: default route ("Ben Thompson")
Re: scanner (H.Bruijn)
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:10:33 -0500
From: Paul Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lost Win98 when Installing RH7
I recently installed RedHat 7 on a Dell desktop that was running Windows
98. The install went well except that now Windows 98 refuses to boot no
matter what I do. I have read all the how-to's I can find. Lilo looks
ok (it is in the mbr).
I tested it after partitioning and before installing linux (and lilo)
and Win98 worked fine then. It stopped working after the linux install.
I tried removing it (lilo - u) as well as copying the boot.0300 file
back to hda. Nothing makes any difference.
I can't even use the old win98 rescue and boot diskettes to get it
going. It just hangs with a blinking curserl. Some advice on the list
seems to indicate that lilo is dangerous on the mbr but it is too late
for that now.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks, Paul
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:05:41 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: connect, but unable to browse
Dave wrote:
> I appreciate your concern. However I find it very frustrating when I ask one
> question and get a totally unrelated answer. I seem to get unrelated answers
> more often than I get my questions answered.
> For instance: How do I tell if my modem is an ISA or a PCI? Answer: you
> dont, go buy an external modem. Real helpful! See what I mean?
> Dave
Nope, you try to connect your box to the internet and I try to explain to you
that you should upgrade your distro to make it secure, as your acient distro
sure has many security problems. And a new one would get you out of your
troubles,
as they mostly come with some nice click tools, even you will be able to setup
your network/modem...
But it looks, as you just regret to get it.
I give up
Michael Heiming
>
>
> "Michael Heiming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Dave wrote:
> >
> > > Why do you waste my time and yours if you are not going to give me an
> answer
> > > to the question I asked?
> >
> > Perhaps you're right but maybe I see a post on comp.os.linux.? from you,
> > telling us:
> >
> > Help have I been cracked?
> >
> > Then you may decide if I wanted to waste your time or if I wanted to help
> you!
> >
> > Michael Heiming
> >
> >
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From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: connect, but unable to browse
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:16:07 GMT
Perhaps when i get this one up and running properly, I will consider
upgrading, but until then I am content using the old one. I am not overly
concerned with someone attempting to get into my box, there is nothing there
that they could possible want!
Dave
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From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.dev.newbie,linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Re: default route
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:18:20 GMT
I see from looking at the post that it did not keep my formatting on that
chart. I hope someone can still figure it out. It is the output from the
route -n command after pppd has been started.
Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicolas)
Subject: recompile distribution & modules make errors at boot time
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:29:21 GMT
I did not make any change withing the Makefile and just recompile the
kernel and the modules.
All files are the ones from the distribution redhat 6.2
I installed them ad try to boot.
I get errors around modules, lot of references are missing, the ethe0 did
not load ....
Does it means that the sources/objects from the readhat distribution are
not the one used to build the binaires from the distribution ?
I was able to go back because I make a backup of the old
module directories
many thanks
.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:32:03 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lost Win98 when Installing RH7
Paul Chapman wrote:
> I recently installed RedHat 7 on a Dell desktop that was running Windows
> 98. The install went well except that now Windows 98 refuses to boot no
> matter what I do. I have read all the how-to's I can find. Lilo looks
> ok (it is in the mbr).
>
> I tested it after partitioning and before installing linux (and lilo)
> and Win98 worked fine then. It stopped working after the linux install.
>
> I tried removing it (lilo - u) as well as copying the boot.0300 file
> back to hda. Nothing makes any difference.
>
> I can't even use the old win98 rescue and boot diskettes to get it
> going. It just hangs with a blinking curserl. Some advice on the list
> seems to indicate that lilo is dangerous on the mbr but it is too late
> for that now.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> Thanks, Paul
Hello,
try
fdisk -l
shows you what disks/partitions Linux can see in your machine.
mount -t auto /dev/hda? /mnt
asuming from what you wrote above your win is somewhere on hda, but it
should
as I remember that winbloze is not able to boot unless it's on the first
disk.
Look if your win files are now below /mnt.
Lilo isn't dangerous on the mbr, it just works.
post your /etc/lilo.conf and the output from fdsik -l & mount for more
help.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: connect, but unable to browse
Date: 18 Feb 2001 23:48:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:16:07 GMT, Dave allegedly wrote:
>Perhaps when i get this one up and running properly, I will consider
>upgrading, but until then I am content using the old one. I am not overly
>concerned with someone attempting to get into my box, there is nothing there
>that they could possible want!
The thing is that more recent distributions are much easier to configure
then the older ones, and support a wider range of hardware. Of course
there's a educational value in blundering and trying different
solutions, but it is more gratifying to start of with a working system,
and learn from there. IIRC you're using redhat 5.2 which is three years
old, and though not completely outdated (most tools and programs still
exist, and have a lot of value today) the ease of use for a reletively
new user has greatly improved.
As for unauthorized acces, the vulnerabilities in redhat 5.2 are so
antiquitated that most standard tools won't recognize them anymore.
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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem for newbie
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:03:34 +0100
Thanks for the reply - the printer was connected to the computer when
Mandrake installed. Then I went to Hardrake and the printer tab at the top.
I also looked up in my Linux book and found how to talk to the printer
through the terminal window. That's about all I've done I guess.
Brian
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From: "Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat loader and NAT
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:05:06 GMT
I'm new to linux and want to install Redhat 7 on my Compaq. The computer
has approx 13 G of available space. What is the best boot loader to install
LILO?
If the installation goes bad will it damage my windows partition? and what
do I need to ensure it doesn't. The last part deals with installing NAT. I
know Redhat comes with Apache firewall so I assume there is the possibility
of installing NAT. How do I go about configuring it?
Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.
Charles
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From: "Matt Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: connect, but unable to browse
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:37:46 +0500
I'm no expert, but isn't minicom a terminal program? I.e. you use it to
connect to dial-up networks like a BBS or other non-internet related
networks.
If you want to connect with an ISP for internet work don't you need to
setup the ppp protocol? For that, maybe you might want to man pppd and
look up the wvdial package off your distribution CD or rpmfind.net.
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From: Six <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USB 4 port adapter
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:18:40 GMT
Do these work in linux? The type you plug in a USB port to give you 4
ports.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: Modem -- lights flash but no-ones in...
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:47:06 GMT
Try a simplier program like minicom.
issue the command.
"ATD123-4567" to see if it would dial the number 123-4567
Linus Rees wrote:
> My external "Mr Modem" by Microcomputer Research Ltd (UK)
> http://www.mri.co.uk/ does not appear to be responding. The modem has a
> Rockwell chipset.
>
> I go into Yast and select intergrate hardware into system and then Modem
> Configuration. This produces a sorry could not find modem message. Yet
> when I try to dial up via KDE and Kppp one of the lights on the modem
> flash on and stay on while and attempt is made to initialize and dial.
> But no dialling occurs and Intialization fails. I move it from one port
> to another only to have the same result, and the lights flash.
>
> Of course it worked under the dreaded Win 95. It is not a Winmodem,
> before anyone asks.
>
> I conclude from this that the modem is being found but initialization is
> failing.
>
> There is no mention of this modem on SuSe's site. Any help would be
> appreciated.
> --
> SuSE Linux 6.3; NEC 486dx 64 Mb ram
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I cannot browse!! from dialup into Linux
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 21:43:46 +0100
Sakkie van Rensburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I dial into RH6.2 on a statics address on the internet from W98.
> I can ping,traceroute,ftp and resolving works from the W98 dialup,
> but I cannot browse!!
> IE on W98 says website found eg to http://www.somedomain.com
Describe your routing, forwarding and proxying setup in detail.
> but then no browsing happens.
> I can browse via the same RH6.2 box on the internal network. (using Squid as
> my cache from W98)
You are fantastically unclear. I can only make a vague guess at
your setup, let alone what is wrong with it. Try again.
Peter
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: scanner
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:30:12 -0000
I recently purchased a scanner and a friend installed it incorrectly. How
do I uninstall it so that it can be reinstalled correctly?
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From: Jeff Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: redhat.general,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Logs telnetd & ftpd
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 19:29:08 -0600
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I am trying to find the connection logs for telnetd and ftpd. I have
read the man for syslog, telnetd, and ftpd and I have not seen any
reference to the logs. Are there such logs, or do I have to write some
script for this?
I am using RedHat Linux 7.0 with a static IP and I keep getting ftpd:
FTP session closed, and telnetd: ttloop: read: Connection reset by
peer, in my syslog, but I have found no way to trace the logins. I am
debugging the server now and I am interested to know if some client on
my lan is doing this somehow, or if someone from the internet is
responsible. I am rotating and expiring my accounts and passwords, so I
do not think I have any security risk, but I would like to be able to
trace this syslog entry.
I have two clients on my lan that are running Napster that have caused
problems for my server in the past, but I think I have gotten all the
bugs worked out with it. I am also running Yahoo Messenger, Aol,
Netscape AIM, and Dialpad on my lan with two clients, but I cannot tell
if they are the cause.
Any comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Jeffrey Moore
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From: Rob Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Entry-level newbie question--which distribution?
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:35:34 -0500
Scott - I just installed Caldera OpenLinux eDesktop 2.4 on a 500 MHz
P-lll w/ 128 Meg and a 6.2GB WD Caviar drive without a hitch. The
distro sells for $29.95 boxed from Caldera, or you can get teh IDG
Caldera 2.4 *Bible* for $39.95 Both come with CD that have the Linux
distro AND application software as well.
The distro was pretty much self installing on a virgin HD; I took the
default selections from the GUI install program, and was setting up
users and passwords in about an hour and a half - including coffee and
other breaks.
BTW, you might be able to get a recent distro from either your public
library, or as a *free* cd with Linux magazine at your local bookstore.
Best of luck,
Rob Weaver
> Scott Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm contemplating installing Linux on my computer, and have some very
> > basic questions. I'll understand if no one wants to reply here, but
> > if you could at least point me to a very basic FAQ regarding Linux,
> > I'd be very appreciative.
> >
> > Here's my system
> > Abit BE6-II motherboard with Pentium III/600MHz and 128Mb of RAM
> >
> > Two IBM 75GXP 45Gb EIDE hard drives with a Promise Fastrak 100 RAID
> > controller.
> >
> > Kenwood 72X CD-ROM drive
> >
> > HP 9100i internal EIDE CD-RW drive
> >
> > Diamond Viper II video card (Savage 2000 chipset)
> >
> > Diamond Monster Sound MX 400 Sound card
> >
> > Okdata Okipage 6e LED page printer
> >
> > Epson Photo Stylus 875DCS color inkjet printer
> >
> > Linksys LNE100TX Ethernet card
> >
> > SupraMax PCI 56k modem
> >
> > MS Intellimouse explorer (optical wheelmouse)
> >
> > Pacific Image Electronics scanner with a proprietary ISA SCSI card.
> >
> > Generic 17" monitor and speakers
> >
> > The hard drives are currently partitioned as one 90Gb drive in a RAID
> > 0 configuration on the Promise controller with Win ME as the operating
> > system. I know I'll probably have to slick the hard drives to install
> > Linux, especially if I do a dual-boot setup, and that's no problem.
> >
> > Here are my questions:
> > 1) Does any of my hardware look like it will cause a compatibility
> > problem with Linux? I'm looking for experiences people have had with
> > any of these parts, either positive or negative.
> >
> > 2) Is there a particular distribution of Linux that is better-suited
> > for me? I know that Promise has Linux drivers for RH 6.2/7.0. Does
> > that mean that I'm limited to one of these distributions if I want to
> > use my raid controller, or will those same drivers work with other
> > Linux distributions?
> >
> > 3) I currently have two computers on a home LAN, and changing the OS
> > on the other computer (wife's laptop) is out of the question. We also
> > use MS Internet Connection Sharing with my computer being the host.
> > I'm assuming that this means I'll have to do a dual-boot setup to keep
> > WinME on my system so she can connect to the internet through my
> > computer. Do any of the distributions come with a dual/multi-boot
> > program, or do I have to buy/download that separately?
> >
> >
> > Thanks so much for any help. My bachelor's degree is in computer
> > science & engineering, so I have a fair grasp of the *concept* of
> > Linux, but my only experience with Unix has been as a user, not as a
> > superuser. If there are two distributions that would suit my needs,
> > and one of them is a little more user-friendly, but possible not as
> > pwerful/secure, please suggest the more user-friendly one. Once I get
> > into the swing of things, I'll re-evaluate my situation and consider
> > switching. I'm wanting to install Linux mostly to play around with it
> > and see what software is out there.
> >
> > Scott Gardner
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ben Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.dev.newbie,linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Re: default route
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:34:15 GMT
Dave,
I know this might be too simple of a fix but it worked for me just add
the line defaultroute under lock in the /etc/ppp/options file and save. See
if this works. I was having the same prob with kppp and I think this has
fixed the problem.
Ben Thompson
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:xwYj6.401$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Three hours, a couple of dozen man pages, and several HOWTO's later I
think
> I have figured out what is wrong. I am following the insructions from the
> PPP-HOWTO. (This may get a little long,sorry) I am logged in as root.
Redhat
> 5.2. Minicom. Kernel 2.0.36.
>
> Open minicom and establish a connection, login, then quit without
resetting
> the modem...ok.
> At prompt type: pppd -d -detach /dev/cua0 38400 &...ppp connection is
> established...ok.
> At prompt type: ifconfig...this shows the PPP interface...I wont write all
> that it says here, but it looks just like the example with a different ip
> address...it also says UP and RUNNING...ok.
> At prompt type: route -n...it says I should see at least 3 interfaces here
> that look like this:
>
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS
> Window Use Iface
> 10.144.153.3 * 255.255.255.255 UH
1500
> 0 1 ppp0
> 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U
> 3584 0 11 lo
> 10.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0
U
> 1500 0 35 eth0
> default 10.144.153.3 * UG
> 1500 0 5 ppp0
>
> Mine looks like the above (with a different ip address), but I dont have
the
> default entry or the eth0 entry. Just the first two lines. According to
the
> HOWTO if you dont have both ppp0 interfaces, then this is a problem.
> "In particular if your syslog shows a message telling you your pppd is not
> replacing an existing default route, then you have a default route
pointing
> at your Ethernet interface - which MUST be replaced by a specific network
> route: YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE DEFAULT ROUTE!!!
>
> You will need to explore your system initialization files to find out
where
> this default route is being set up (it will use a route add
> default...command). Change this command to something like route add
net...."
> That is an exact quote.
>
> The instructions continue, the way they are set up is: Step 1. Work? Step
2.
> Work? Step 3. etc.
> So when I reached a point where one step failed I didnt expect the
remaining
> steps to work, and they didnt. If I understand it correctly I need to fix
> this problem before I can continue to the next step. So my question is how
> do I set up that default route? I looked for a syslog but cant find that.
I
> did find /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/messages, but no reference is made to
a
> default route. In afterstep there is Network Configuration, when that is
> opened I find that the routing tab is not filled out. But I dont know if
> that is what I am looking for or not.
>
> I think that the Default Route is the root of my problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> ps. Lots of people have told me to use ttyS* instead of cua* as cua* is
> obsolete. I have tried and it doesnt work on my system. Perhaps it is
> obsolete, but keep in mind I am using an older distribution.
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: scanner
Date: 19 Feb 2001 01:52:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:30:12 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] allegedly wrote:
>I recently purchased a scanner and a friend installed it incorrectly. How
>do I uninstall it so that it can be reinstalled correctly?
Sigh.
Next time you ask a friend for help, ask that they guide you through the
process of whatever you're trying to accomplish, but do things yourself.
That is the only way to learn. Let them give instructions/tips even
litteral commands, but ask questions and DO IT YOURSELF. Then when it
doesn't work YOU can try and fix it.
Now to answer your question, let me give you some advise. Give details,
what type of scanner, what interface, what doesn't work, details. If we
don't know redumentary details we can't help, if you don't mention
that your friend sacrificed the chicken to make things work, we can't
tell you that in general to get scanners to work you need to sacrifice
a pig under the full moon.
In general people use sane. /usr/doc/sane should have information,
otherwise try http://www.mostang.com/sane/
Most configuration is stored in the /etc/ directory so modify the text
files there to change system settings, /etc/sane would be a place to
start. To change setting you don't "uninstall" software, you just change
the configuration files. Only when you messed things up beyond salvation
reinstallation might solve your problems. Then use the package management
to remove the file, but since you don't tell us what distribution you're
running we cant even tell you that.
Sorry for the rant, but consider it general education, not specifically
intended to harry you.
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