Linux-Setup Digest #696, Volume #20 Sat, 24 Feb 01 00:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: How-to- Linux on Unix?? (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Ximian upgrade on Debian/Stormix - Stuck at login ("Mark L. Kahnt")
Re: Linux on second Hardrive ("inon")
Netscape 4.76 (Jay & Shell)
Re: network install problem, please help me!! ("inon")
Re: network card configuration ("Pavan")
Re: can't get redhat linux to recognize network ("inon")
Re: Looking for modelines for ViewSonic A70 ("Gene Heskett")
Re: LILO/Boot problem solved! (David Efflandt)
Re: 2.4.0-2 kernel hanging at: uncompressing kernel stage ("Samuel A. Rogers")
Re: 2.4.0-2 kernel hanging at: uncompressing kernel stage ("Samuel A. Rogers")
Re: 2.4.0-2 kernel hanging at: uncompressing kernel stage ("Samuel A. Rogers")
Re: ASAP......Problem in booting linux from win NT (root)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How-to- Linux on Unix??
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 03:23:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Windgassen wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Mark Bratcher wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Windgassen wrote:
>>>On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Mun Sing wrote:
>>>
>>>Unix and linux are operating systems that run on a hardware platform, i.e.
>>>NOT on another operating system.
>>>
>>>For example:
>>>- Linux can run on Intel machines (x86)
>>>- Windows can run on intel machines too
>>
>>And Windows can run on Linux. (eg, Lin4win) :-)
>>And Windows 3.11 can run on OS/2.
>
>That's not the whole truth (in my opinion:-): these are environments within
>Linux and OS/2 that allow you to run Windows executables, i.e. _individual_
>programs. This is pretty different from running a whole operating system, e.g.
>including task, memory and filesystem management.
>And the OP was asking how to run Linux, that is not an individual app, on a Unix
>system.
>
You're right about the Windows on Linux.
Windows 3.11 on OS/2 though... hard to tell, you may be right there too.
I ran OS/2 Warp when it first came out and I could run several program managers
at once, or pop over to an entire full screen Windows, all while OS/2 was running.
Sure does a great job fooling the user into believing Windows is really
running there.
Then one I forgot to add: a product called "VxWin" that runs Windows NT
as an idle task under VxWorks.
--
Mark Bratcher
To reply direct, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
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Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: Ximian upgrade on Debian/Stormix - Stuck at login
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:29:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Leonard Stiles wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lacky) writes:
>
> > So I just finished a fresh install of Hail and figured I would get
> > Helix/Ximian Gnome up-to-date. So, after consulting the Ximian web
> > site (www.ximian.org) for instructions on how to update Debian based
> > systems, I typed the following as su:
> >
> > lynx -source http://go-gnome.com/ | sh
>
> I've heard about this and I find the suggestion that one should grab a
> script from the web and execute it as root without even looking at
> what it contains somewhat questionable.
>
> > Everything seemed to work just fine until I tried to reboot. I am now
> > stuck in an endless cycle of login screens. If I try to login as
> > either root or my personal account, the screen goes blank for a second
> > as if the monitor was turned off and then I am simply returned to the
> > login page to do it all over again. I simply cannot get past the login
> > page.
>
> This is a shot in the dark, but my guess is that the `login screens'
> you refer to are gdm's (the gnome replacement for xdm). Gdm can be,
> and in your case probably is configured to use PAM (pluggable
> authentication modules) for all authentication handling. I presume the
> problem is that the program that installed gdm did not install a pam
> configuration file for gdm. If this is the case then you will not be
> able to use gdm to log in.
>
> Log in from the console as root (press <ctrl-alt-f1> from the gdm
> screen to get to the console) and check if the file /etc/pam.d/gdm
> exists. If it does not, you will have to create it. If you have an
> /etc/pam.d/xdm file you could probably get away with just copying
> it. Otherwise, you will have to write your own (refer to the PAM
> documentation). FYI, my /etc/pam.d/gdm looks like this:
>
> ------- /etc/pam.d/gdm follows
> #%PAM-1.0
> auth required pam_nologin.so
> auth required pam_env.so
> auth required pam_unix_auth.so
> account required pam_unix_acct.so
> password required pam_unix_passwd.so shadow
> session required pam_unix_session.so
> ------- End
>
> If you already have a /etc/pam.d/gdm file, it may be that it is
> syntactically invalid or corrupted in some way, which you would have
> to fix. When you are done you will probably have to restart gdm.
>
> HTH
>
> --
>
> Leonard Stiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'd lean away from that, as a PAM failure should result in a failed
authorisation situation coming back to gdm, which does something very
noticeable in such a situation - the gdm window shakes itself "NO" in
response. If that isn't happening, authentication is passing, meaning
PAM is okay, and more likely X is failing to kick in beyond the nominal
requirements for gdm to run.
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From: "inon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on second Hardrive
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:10:10 -0600
Here is what I can say....but wait for more posts.
First of all LILO and dual-boot are two different things. Dual boot allows
to select the starting sector on a disk or from a different disk to load the
operating system. You must have heard people running Win98, Win NT running
on the same machine. This is dual boot. However, if you want to run several
operating systems (such as Win98, WinNT,OS/2, LINUX and so on) then there
are programs available commercially.
Now, LILO (LInux LOader) is the program that tells the boot process which
Linux kernel need to be used and from where to find it. Caution: I may be
wrong regarding LILO cannot be used to boot into windows also.
Here is what I got on my machine. I run Win98, Win NT4.0 SP5 and Linux.
Windows stuff is on the same drive (20G Primary) and Linux is on 4G
secondary hard disk. Whenever I want to use Linux, I boot thru floppy. This
floppy is the "Boot floppy" for Linux. This floppy has LILO on it and
specifies where to find the kernel and so on.
Coming to Druid issue, when you have critical data (GIS related), I would
rather spend $40 or $50 and get Partition Magic software, which is a very
good qualify and easy to operate tool that partitions a hard disk or
prepares a hard disk for a certain type of os. I won't rely on Druid that
shipped with the installation programs. Because, this kind of tool won't
provide an option to move partitions or undo changes. This kind of features
are very important when dealing with situation like yours. And moreover,
Partition Magic comes with a feature that when installed allows you to boot
into seperate os without using a disk (like my case).
BTW, Linux docs never explains how to handle two drives or so. It's an issue
of how you setup your hardware (on top of that we install os).
This is a kind of lenghty post, but atleast I want to say don't take wrong
directions by digging into Linux docs and etc. You issue is to prepare a
brand new hard disk for Linux and boot into it whenever required.
One last hint: Once you prepare the 2nd 18G disk and install Linux on it,
you can always mount your NT hard drive at /mnt/<some name> in read-only
mode. This way you can still access the data residing onWin NT partitions. I
do that...
><not set> sda1 15M 15M Oxde
><not set> sda2 17343M 17343M OS/2 HPFS
><not set> sdb1 23M 23M Linux native
><not set> sdb5 17414M 17343M Linux native
><not set> sdb6 70M 70M Linux swap
>
>How do I set the mont points for a Lilo Dual boot ?
>
> I read through all the Linux documentation but it does not say how to
>deal with two hardrives !?
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From: Jay & Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 4.76
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:11:04 GMT
I'm using Netscape 4.76 Mandrake 7.1 kernel 2.2.16 and Gnome 1.2
My question is. I have installed the netcarp.tar.gz and for some reason
when I import my address book it lists it but when I click on an
address, then ok, it shuts down Netscape, and sticks a lock file in my
home dir. Not concerned about the lock file, I want to know how to fix
my address book. I have had Net. 4.76 working excellent before, and
can't remember what I did to fix this problem.
I had to re-install my mandrake and this time chose not to install
Netscape or any plugins.
Before I did, and just used kpackage to uninstall 4.75 then installed
4.76 .rpm!
Any ideas???
Help would be most appreciated
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From: "inon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: network install problem, please help me!!
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:17:26 -0600
This is not Linux problem, but a Windows NT feature. Create an account in
the Windows NT and this may allow to log in (when userid and pwd are
entered).
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From: "Pavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: network card configuration
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:45:51 +0530
Well, I think I should repeat my question. For
this particular machine, I know the card & also
the module. But if I do not know what card it is,
how do I find out the card(apart from opening the
box) & also which module is for the card. Is there
something like sndconfig(which auto-detects the
sound-card & modifies the modules.conf
appropriately)?
-Pavan
Rick Duval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:f5zl6.223848$[EMAIL PROTECTED].
com...
> Excuse my last reply, I realize it was a little
off your exact question.
>
> Just add the following line to modules.conf
>
> Alias eth0 3c90x
>
> Then using linuxconf or netconfig enter the IP,
gateway, etc and all should
> be working.
>
> Rick Duval
> canoffroad.net
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From: "inon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't get redhat linux to recognize network
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:21:37 -0600
Check IP of "Default Gateway"
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Date: 23 Feb 2001 23:14:9 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for modelines for ViewSonic A70
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Joe Mason;
[...]
>> JM> (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 50 V max: 180 Hz, H min: 30 H max: 70 kHz,
>> JM> PixClock max 100 kHz
>>----------------------^ I hope this was an 'm'!
JM> Nope. That's a direct paste. That setting is completely bogus, I take
JM> it?
Mmm, I wouldn't think that, but that there was a typo in the message
text contained in the program itself.
[...]
Cheers, Gene
--
Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 500mhz
email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
#Amiga based X10 home automation program EZHome, see at:#
<http://www.thirdwave.net/~jimlucia/amigahomeauto>
This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material,
is � 2001 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: LILO/Boot problem solved!
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:38:40 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:58:24 GMT, Vlar Schreidlocke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I solved the problem!
>
>My computer was never getting was never getting to LILO on boot. This
>was an older Dell P90 that couldn't recognize larger drives. I
>downloaded a BIOS upgrade that "appeared" to let the IDE controller
>recognizr the 20GB Western Digital drive. I was able to fully install
>linux and warm reboot, but whenn I powered down the computer and
>restarted it wouldn't find the hard drive. I could boot from a floppy.
>
>I finally solved the problem by installing a Promise DriveMAX card
>(BIOS on a card) and the drive was fully recognized and linux booted
>up via LILO just fine.
Years ago I used a Promise EideMAX to enable my 386 to use drives bigger
than 528 MB (386 BIOS had no large drive translation). That card did LBA
translation, so my 540 MB and 1.2 GB drives at the time appeared to be
under 1024 cyls. The only problem with that was warm booting, but that
should not be a problem with Pentiums that do a complete reset.
I am currently running an old P100 box. Not sure what its native BIOS
supported for drive size, but my Evergreen Spectra400 (K6-2/400) cpu
upgrade included MR BIOS flash that has no trouble with a 27.3 GB drive
and also enables me to set any drive as the boot drive.
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From: "Samuel A. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4.0-2 kernel hanging at: uncompressing kernel stage
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:54:46 -0800
Mark Bratcher wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Samuel A. Rogers wrote:
> >
> >I am running a K6 450 processor on RH 7.0 in which I have tried 2.4.0,
> >2.4.1 and 2.4.2 kernels and all of them hang when it gets to the
> >uncompressing stage of booting. I have to press the hard reset button to
> >get it to reboot as the ctrl-alt-delete doesn't work. I am currently
> >running 2.2.16-22
> >
> >I build the kernel with:
> >
> >make dep clean bzlilo modules modules_install
> >make install
> >
> >I can seem to build 2.2.x kernels with the above methoed, but not 2.4.x.
> >I would like to use the 2.4.x kernel but can seem to get it to boot?
> >
>
> Are you using lilo? Did you run lilo after the 'make install'?
>
> --
> Mark Bratcher
> To reply direct, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
Yes, I ran lilo every time. I even saw that the install was putting the
vmlinuz in the / directory and modified lilo.conf to go to it instead of
/boot.
Sorry I should have mention that, but thanks for the advice.
Regards,
Sam Rogers.
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From: "Samuel A. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4.0-2 kernel hanging at: uncompressing kernel stage
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:57:07 -0800
Philip Jones wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Samuel A. Rogers"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I am running a K6 450 processor on RH 7.0 in which I have tried 2.4.0,
> > 2.4.1 and 2.4.2 kernels and all of them hang when it gets to the
> > uncompressing stage of booting. I have to press the hard reset button to
> > get it to reboot as the ctrl-alt-delete doesn't work. I am currently
> > running 2.2.16-22
> >
> > I build the kernel with:
> >
> > make dep clean bzlilo modules modules_install make install
> >
> > I can seem to build 2.2.x kernels with the above methoed, but not 2.4.x.
> > I would like to use the 2.4.x kernel but can seem to get it to boot?
>
> Have you read Changes in the source Documentation Directory.
>
> Phil Jones
No I haven't read the source documentation directory, I'll try looking in
there.
Regards,
Sam Rogers.
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From: "Samuel A. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4.0-2 kernel hanging at: uncompressing kernel stage
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 21:04:34 -0800
Tony Reed wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.setup
> Samuel A. Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :
> :I am running a K6 450 processor on RH 7.0 in which I have tried 2.4.0,
> :2.4.1 and 2.4.2 kernels and all of them hang when it gets to the
> :uncompressing stage of booting. I have to press the hard reset button to
> :get it to reboot as the ctrl-alt-delete doesn't work. I am currently
> :running 2.2.16-22
> :
> :I build the kernel with:
> :
> :make dep clean bzlilo modules modules_install
> :make install
> :
>
> Try:
>
> make dep
> make bzImage
> make modules
> make modules_install
> make install
>
> Don't try to do it all at once. Let each stage finish. I would avoid
> the bzlilo bit. You don't really need to do a make clean.
>
> --
> Tony Reed
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm trying that now, I thought though that when you do all the sections of
make togather that if one part fails it should kick out. But in case it
isn't I'll try it this way. It's almost acting as if it can't uncompress the
vmlinuz file for some reason?
Regards,
Sam Rogers.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:58:59 -0600
From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASAP......Problem in booting linux from win NT
Uttam wrote:
> Folks,
> It might be most common problem but I couldn't fix it....I really
> appreciate it your help...
>
> I have 2 HARD DISKs hda,hdb....
>
> I made partitions on the boot disk...& installed WIN NT in hda1
>
> I installed LINUX in hdb4
>
> now I wanna to boot linux from NT.....So here what I did.....
>
> I used linux bootable to load linux....then I gave following commands
>
> # dd if=/dev/hdb4 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
> #cp /bootsect.lnx /mnt/floppy
>
> then I went to WIN NT I copied this file to C drive
> in boot.ini I made an entry....but I doesn't boot from NT...why?
> I have no clue...
> FOLKS, I need it ASAP....Pls help me...
>
> I wud appreciate your help...ASAP.....
>
> Thanks alot...
> Uttam
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I had a similar experience with NT2K. NT is loaded on hda1. hda1 ...
hdaN are all NTFS drives. Linux is loaded on hdb5. hdb1....hdbN are
all Native Linux or Swap partitions. NT2K existed first.
On the first go around, I did not create a floppy Linux Boot Diskette,
and managed to change the NTLoader bootstrap in the Master Boot Record
(MBR). At this point only Linux boots. After recovering the MBR on
hda, NT2K boots, but Linux doesn't. BTW, NT2K does have a repair MBR on
it; had to make certain the partition map wasn't corrupted.
On second go around, I did create floppy Linux Boot Diskette, and loaded
the Linux Bootstrap on the Linux Boot Partition. I then performed the
strategy you described, of mounting a floppy, the dd copy of one sector
to a file on the floppy, and then booting NT. I then copied the file on
the floppy (bootdisk.lnx) to the NT's boot drive (C:\) and then added
the entry in boot.ini. During reboot, the Linux entry appears just
fine, but when selected, it seems to branch to nowhere.
I needed to move on, so I left the problem alone with the following
hypothesis (as yet untested):
For the process to work, the linux partition must be on the same
physical hard drive as the NT boot partition .
If any has tested this hypothesis and can prove/disprove, I would
appreciate it....
I am using the floppy disk "push button" in=Linux, out=NT2K. (I also
have the MBR, and Boot paritition sectors copied on all the machines I
maintain!)
Bill
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