Linux-Setup Digest #700, Volume #20              Sat, 24 Feb 01 18:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Severe X problem ("H.A.J. van Niekerk")
  Re: linuxconf Q rh7.0 ("Jan Rockstedt")
  named, excessive recursion, and stub zones (Peter B. Steiger)
  gnome screensaver won't start ("Corey Wirun")
  Re: Severe X problem ("Xavier")
  Re: Harddisk problem. (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
  Re: How-to- Linux on Unix?? (Mark Bratcher)
  Kernel 2.2.18 build problems ("inon")
  Re: netcfg Help for DSL Access (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Linux on second Hardrive ("inon")
  ignore this ("inon")
  Re: tty execute question (Dean Thompson)
  Problem with Blackbox WM, and the Slit ("michael s. jessop")
  Re: Problem with Blackbox WM, and the Slit ("michael s. jessop")
  Re: named, excessive recursion, and stub zones (David)
  Re: Kernel 2.2.18 build problems (David)
  Re: How-to- Linux on Unix??
  Re: Kernel 2.2.18 build problems ("inon")

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From: "H.A.J. van Niekerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Severe X problem
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:12:59 +0100

Today I added a physical harddisk to my RH 6.2 system, formatted it and
mounted it OK. Then I dual-booted to W2K, dual-booted back to RH 6.2 but
the X-server keeps coming up and shutting down. When I telnet to the
system, I notice with the ps -A command that X keeps changing it's pid,
so I can't kill it.
Questions: - did I do something wrong, if so: what?
                    - what should I do to correct it?

Thank you

Huub


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From: "Jan Rockstedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linuxconf Q rh7.0
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:21:43 GMT

Ops !
I found it.

Jan Rockstedt
"Jan Rockstedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
news:7PRl6.19975$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi again !
>
> What is this ???
> I found this in /var/log/messages, many times with diffrent numbers.
>
> modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module block-major-22
>
> Jan Rockstedt
>
> "Jan Rockstedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:NCRl6.19974$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi !
> >
> > I don't see wu-ftpd or sendmail in linuxconf or in netconf "redhat 7.0"
> > It was there in rh 6.2.
> > I have try reinstall wu-ftpd, but with no luck.
> >
> > Any sugestion ?
> >
> > Jan Rockstedt
> >
> >
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter B. Steiger)
Subject: named, excessive recursion, and stub zones
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:58:38 GMT

I was reading through named.run trying to figure out why named
(version 8.2.2-P5) is churning so much on IP lookups, and had
an interesting idea... but being as how I don't know what I'm
doing, I figure I should bounce this off the gurus to make sure
this isn't stupid.

I notice that every time it tries a top-level domain (say, com when 
I want to look up www.cnn.com) it goes through all the root level
servers (why ALL of them?) until it finds one that will tell it where
to load top-level zones, such as A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET.

So I thought, why not save it that extra step and keep an SOA
record for each of the top level domains locally?  I can easily
use dig to periodically refresh a database of servers that handle
com, org, net, edu, and gov requests, right?

I did so, and it seemed to work fine.  My named.conf now lists
a "stub" entry for com like this:

zone "com" IN {
        type stub;
        file "tldns.cache.com";
        servers {my ISP server address};
};

My questions are:
1) Is this a brilliant idea or a stupid idea?
B) What's with all the "xfer" files that get scattered around my
/var/named directory now?  They seem to be identical to the
SOA record ("tldns.cache.com", etc.) and named keeps wanting 
to refresh them every few minutes.  How can I stop this?

If course, if the answer to (1) is "it's a stupid idea", the answer
to (B) is irrelevant; I'll just dismantle the whole scheme and go
back to using a local cache and defer the rest to the root servers.



Peter B. Steiger
Cheyenne, WY
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From: "Corey Wirun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gnome screensaver won't start
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:15:48 -0700

Hi All,

I came across the screensaver 'sonar' that I can't seem to get to work.  I'm
able to see the preview, but when I press the 'Try' button nothing happens.
Also when I set the timeout to 1 minute it doesn't work either.

GNOME itself works fine on my RH6.2.  Is there something else that I can
check?

Thanks in Advance!
Corey.



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From: "Xavier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Severe X problem
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:39:28 -0800

is your X configuration OK?

I had a problem like that once. I'm not sure if your problem is
the same one I had, but for what it's worth, the last time I had
a problem like that, it was becuase I didn't have support for my
video card compiled into the kernel. Once I re-compiled my kernel
to support my video card and configured X, things worked fine.

so, change to run-level 3 and make sure your X configuration
works. If it works, and you continue to have the problem, then
I guess it's something different.

Hope this helps.

-- X


"H.A.J. van Niekerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Today I added a physical harddisk to my RH 6.2 system, formatted it
and
> mounted it OK. Then I dual-booted to W2K, dual-booted back to RH 6.2
but
> the X-server keeps coming up and shutting down. When I telnet to the
> system, I notice with the ps -A command that X keeps changing it's
pid,
> so I can't kill it.
> Questions: - did I do something wrong, if so: what?
>                     - what should I do to correct it?
>
> Thank you
>
> Huub
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: Harddisk problem.
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:41:54 GMT

Yiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Before i have install redhat liunx 6.2 on my harddisk, later i remove
>the linux and try to install a windows back on it. I remove all linux
>partitions and using ms dos fdisk to reform the partitions. I have also
>use fdisk /mbr to remove the lilo. However, when i try to use the
>harddisk to boot, it reply me with a "Invalid partition table" message.
>Do any one what's happening?
>
>Yiu

"Invalid partition table" is printed from a DOS MBR when more than one
partition is active, or an active byte is not 0 or 0x80.
-- 
Svend Olaf

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How-to- Linux on Unix??
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:46:31 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rod Smith wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher) writes:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Windgassen wrote:
>>>
>>>That's not the whole truth (in my opinion:-): these are environments within
>>>Linux and OS/2 that allow you to run Windows executables, i.e. _individual_
>>>programs. This is pretty different from running a whole operating system, e.g.
>>>including task, memory and filesystem management.
>> 
>> You're right about the Windows on Linux.
>> Windows 3.11 on OS/2 though... hard to tell, you may be right there too.
>> I ran OS/2 Warp when it first came out and I could run several program managers
>> at once, or pop over to an entire full screen Windows, all while OS/2 was running.
>> Sure does a great job fooling the user into believing Windows is really
>> running there.
>
>That's because Windows 3.1/3.11 wasn't an OS; it was a GUI environment
>with some OS-like features. It didn't include filesystems, for instance;
>that was provided by the underlying OS (usually DOS, but in an OS/2
>environment, OS/2).
>

Was DOS an OS? OS/2 could run DOS.

-- 
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===============================================================
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From: "inon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.2.18 build problems
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:56:27 -0600

I am trying to compile 2.2.18 kernel on RH6.1. When I do 'make bzdisk' or
'make bzImage' this is the following error msgs I get
====================
[root@localhost linux]# make bzdisk
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o
scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c
In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
                 from scripts/split-include.c:26:
/usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [scripts/split-include] Error 1


[root@localhost linux]# make bzImage
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o
scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c
In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
                 from scripts/split-include.c:26:
/usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [scripts/split-include] Error 1
=======================

There is no linux/errno.h in /usr/src/linux dir, if this is the place it's
looking for errno.h. I am using gcc-2.91.66

All suggestions and expertise welcome.

- Inon



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: netcfg Help for DSL Access
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 Feb 2001 16:58:40 -0500

On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:06:35 GMT, Tim Beckwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am totally stuck and in serious need of thoughtful and patient help.
>I have been trying to use netcfg to configure my LinuxPPC correctly so
>I can access the internet via my DSL router.  On my Mac OS 9 side my
>TCP/IP Control Panel (which allows seamless and hearty access) is
>configured as follows:
>
>Connect via:             Ethernet
>Configure:               Using DHCP Server
>IP Address:              (provided by vendor)
>Subnet Mask:             255.255.255.0
>Router Address:          192.168.200.254
>Name Server Addresses:   207.173.225.3
>                         207.173.224.3
>
>I have not been able to put the right combination of above settings in 
>netcfg so things work.  
>


Configure the interface (eth0?) to start on boot, and use DHCP. That may
be all you need to do. It should pull all the other stuff from the
router. You may have to enter DNS numbers somewhere. I've never used
netcfg for that, but they go in /etc/resolv.conf. Be sure to save
settings. 

If that does not work, post output from ifconfig. 

-- 
Hal B
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From: "inon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on second Hardrive
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:58:21 -0600

ok.....so what is the solution  you are suggesting to Andreas problem !!!



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From: "inon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ignore this
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 16:03:16 -0600

just testing



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From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: tty execute question
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:02:31 +1100


Hi Ray,

> I just upgraded my Mandrake 7.2 distro to kernel 2.4.2. Everything appears
> to be fine except on login or su I get  line that says:
> 
> bash: /usr/bin/tty: cannot execute binary file
> 
> I looked at the file, it is there, but it looks terrible like it is corrupt.  Can 
>anyone clarify this error? How can i get a new tty script. Not 
> even sure what it does. No noticable functionality problems.

Just out of interest, are you sure that the tty file looks corrupt and doesn't
look like a binary file ?

By any chance, did you set the high security option when you were installing
Mandrake.  I discovered that if you set up the "highest" of security
permissions that programs which reside in the standard /usr/bin and bin
directories and so forth won't execute as a result of the permissions used. 
Only a "root" login appears to work correctly.  When you get a chance, take a
look at the permissions on the /bin or /usr directory.

See ya

Dean Thompson

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From: "michael s. jessop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with Blackbox WM, and the Slit
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:25:47 GMT

For some reason, my applets don't open into the slit (like the
WindowMaker Dock).  By default the slit is on, so I don't know what
gives.  Any ideas?  Is there a trick to getting it to work?  I noted that
in the FAQ, it showed an example of loading the applets before you
started blackbox, but I don't have that option since my window manager
startup is handled by Mandrake, unless I can modify it wherever Mandrake
starts blackbox.

Can anyone help?

Thanks!

Mike J.

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From: "michael s. jessop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with Blackbox WM, and the Slit
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:36:09 GMT

Actually, let me be more specific.  "bbrun" DOES open to the slit.
"bbpager" and "bbsload" both open at the bottom left hand part of the
screen and, once opened, cannot be moved.

Help?

Thanks!

Mike :)

In article <LxWl6.715$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "michael s.
jessop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For some reason, my applets don't open into the slit (like the
> WindowMaker Dock).  By default the slit is on, so I don't know what
> gives.  Any ideas?  Is there a trick to getting it to work?  I noted
> that in the FAQ, it showed an example of loading the applets before you
> started blackbox, but I don't have that option since my window manager
> startup is handled by Mandrake, unless I can modify it wherever Mandrake
> starts blackbox.
> 
> Can anyone help?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike J.

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: named, excessive recursion, and stub zones
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:43:56 GMT

"Peter B. Steiger" wrote:
> 
> I was reading through named.run trying to figure out why named
> (version 8.2.2-P5) is churning so much on IP lookups, and had
> an interesting idea... but being as how I don't know what I'm
> doing, I figure I should bounce this off the gurus to make sure
> this isn't stupid.

Bind version 8.2.2-P5 is buggy it is recommended to upgrade to 8.2.3

http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/bind8.html


> So I thought, why not save it that extra step and keep an SOA
> record for each of the top level domains locally?  I can easily
> use dig to periodically refresh a database of servers that handle
> com, org, net, edu, and gov requests, right?
> 
> I did so, and it seemed to work fine.  My named.conf now lists
> a "stub" entry for com like this:
> 
> zone "com" IN {
>         type stub;
>         file "tldns.cache.com";
>         servers {my ISP server address};
> };
> 
> My questions are:
> 1) Is this a brilliant idea or a stupid idea?

Good idea but not a new one. You can use the script at this link along
with cron to keep it up to date.

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO-8.html


> B) What's with all the "xfer" files that get scattered around my
> /var/named directory now?  They seem to be identical to the
> SOA record ("tldns.cache.com", etc.) and named keeps wanting
> to refresh them every few minutes.  How can I stop this?


Here is are a couple of links I found to be helpful.

http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/bind8.html
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.18 build problems
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:46:01 GMT

inon wrote:
> 
> I am trying to compile 2.2.18 kernel on RH6.1. When I do 'make bzdisk' or
> 'make bzImage' this is the following error msgs I get
> ====================
> [root@localhost linux]# make bzdisk
> gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o
> scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c
> In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
>                  from scripts/split-include.c:26:
> /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [scripts/split-include] Error 1
> 
> [root@localhost linux]# make bzImage
> gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o
> scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c
> In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
>                  from scripts/split-include.c:26:
> /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [scripts/split-include] Error 1
> =======================
> 
> There is no linux/errno.h in /usr/src/linux dir, if this is the place it's
> looking for errno.h. I am using gcc-2.91.66
> 
> All suggestions and expertise welcome.
> 
> - Inon


It looks like you need to make these links and try it again.

cd  /usr/include 

     rm  -rf  asm  linux  scsi 

     ln  -s  /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386  asm 

     ln  -s  /usr/src/linux/include/linux  linux 

     ln  -s  /usr/src/linux/include/scsi  scsi

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How-to- Linux on Unix??
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:07:53 -0800

> Was DOS an OS? OS/2 could run DOS.
>
Yes, the program written originally by Tim Patten of Seattle Computer
Products and bought by Gates is, not was an operating system. windows
versions 1, 2, 3, and 4 (aka 9x) are all built on top of DOS.



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From: "inon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.18 build problems
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:11:44 -0600


David wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>It looks like you need to make these links and try it again.
>
>cd  /usr/include
>
>     rm  -rf  asm  linux  scsi
>
>     ln  -s  /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386  asm
>
>     ln  -s  /usr/src/linux/include/linux  linux
>
>     ln  -s  /usr/src/linux/include/scsi  scsi
>
>--
>Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
>Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
>ID # 123538
>Completed more W/U's than 99.082% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

I compiled 2.2.16 before, and everything fly by great. Why this happens only
with this 2.2.18 !!! (wondering).

Now, deleting dirs and creating symbolic links (as explained above) a work
around or it is the only way to solve my issue!!!



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