Linux-Setup Digest #740, Volume #20 Fri, 2 Mar 01 21:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Unbootable system needs e2fsck'ed ... (Andy Teague)
Re: How to copy existing linux installation to another hdd? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2? (Scott Gardner)
Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2? (Scott Gardner)
Re: which forum or irc for newbie help? ("Almer")
Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Mouse doesn't work in Red Hat 7.0 ! (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Linux/Win share mail files on dual boot (Stevenson)
Windows and Screens problems ("William B")
install problem (Carl Pole)
Re: UPS install (Steve Martin)
partition question ("subchaa")
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Mike Perry --Re: cannot update from 7 to 7.1 scsi devices??????????? (dad)
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Re: iomega zip strange problem (Dances With Crows)
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From: Andy Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.kernel,be.comp.os.linux,nl.comp.os.linux.installatie
Subject: Re: Unbootable system needs e2fsck'ed ...
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 23:37:58 +0000
Philippe Bertin wrote:
> After problems with a partition whose type is vfat (where I store my data as
> well as from within Linux as from within Windows), I've tried to make a
> e2fsck on that partition. But it was mounted at the time I did the check.
dont think you want to e2fsck a vfat file system
I understood that the e2 meant ext2 filesystem type
just fsck may pick up the fact its vfat, but not sure (I dont have
any vfats at the moment)
> The e2fsck- command warned me that I could do a lot of damage when
> continuing (as it was mounted), so I didn't continue. I tried to unmount it,
> which didn't succeed. So I had to power off my Linux system. Now, I can't
> restart my Linux system anymore, most probably because of another partition
> that's failing now (as in Windows in the meantime, I've repaired the
> originally failing partition).
unless in repairing from windows it generously trashed your linux :-)
>The last things that it says before hanging
> eth0: PCI NE2000 found at 0x6100, IRQ11, ... (hardware number)
> So I have to e2fsck a partition from within Linux ... which I can't start
> anymore. Could anyone say what I could do to cure this deadlock situation ?
> Are there some boot startup options ? I do have a Linux startup rescue disk,
> but it hangs about at the same place. Probably because it tries to mount the
> same deficient partition. I suspect this partition to be the root partition
> ('/'), as my system already doesn't find an 'initial console' - see error
> messages.
>
I would boot a recovery system from your original floppies and CD media
-
that way your hard disk wont have been touched during boot-up. once in
your recovery system try running e2fsck on each of your ext2 partitions
> If recovery isn't possible, what could I do to overwrite the least of the
> existing partitions ? A lot of questions, for which I hope some of you will
> have an answer.
and of course you've got a print out of the EXACT partition table setup
havent you :-)
(no nor did I when I last deleted my partition table by mistake!)
re-starting the install may probe the disk, and find the partitions that
are available for use, possibly giving you options to keep/format
each one - choose to delete the minimum you think you can get away with
HTH
Andy
PS - suggest you include exact version of OS in future posts.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: How to copy existing linux installation to another hdd?
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:28:19 +0100
In comp.os.linux.help No Spam mapS oN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My man pages tell me that cp -a is equivalent to cp -dpR. Seems that
> using cp -par is somewhat redundant, all you need is cp -a to achieve
> the same effect.
-r is not the same as -R. But I agree. In fact I agree most heartily
because -r is not the same as -R! -R is right.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Gardner)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2?
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 23:50:04 GMT
On 1 Mar 2001 8:28:5 -0500, "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Wrong compiler. For kernel building, use either kgcc, egcs (latest) or
>gcc-2.95-2, no newer.
>
Thanks, I'll try that. None of those compiler warnings seem to result
in fatal errors or problems in the final build, but I still dislike
compiler warnings.
>>I haven't tried 2.4.x kernels yet, so have no answer oon this one.
>>>
>>>Now the buggaboo. When I initially installed RH 7.0, I used the
>>>"expert text" function, and provided a device driver disk for my
>>>Promise FasTrak IDE RAID controller card, which was successfully
>>>recognized as /dev/sda under 2.2. When I compiled 2.4.2, I didn't
>>>see any option for providing a driver disk, and when I boot up
>
>>That's because the driver disk is an option to RedHat's installer
>>program and not part of the kernal.
>
>It should be built as a module, and insmod'd to bring it in in the boot
>cycle.
I tried that today. I found the object file "ft.o", and tried to
"insmod" it after booting up into 2.4.2, and it fails, giving me the
error that "ft.o" was compiled for kernel 2.2.16-22, and that I'm
currently running 2.4.2.
Still stuck, but much less frantic now that I've gotten
networking functional under 2.2.16. Now the only thing I can't do
under 2.2 is my USB printer (mouse and keyboard work fine, though),
and I have several parallel printers to use in the meantime.
Thanks,
Scott
>
>>>under 2.4.2, it doesn't recognize the RAID card, so of course the
>>>MOUNT of /dev/sda fails. This is no big deal, since linux is
>>>installed on a different (non-RAIDed) hard drive, so all this means
>>>is that I can't mount my Windows partition after I've booted. What
>>>I suspect happened is that when I originally loaded 2.2, the
>>>functionality for the RAID card was loaded into the kernel via my
>>>driver disk. Since I didn't do anything like that when I compiled
>>>2.4.2, the support obviously isn't there.
>
>>When you loaded 2.2 support (loaded from the Promise driver disk)
>>for the RAID card was provided by a module. On my systems this is
>>/lib/modules/2.2.16-22/scsi/ft.o and I have successfully used this
>>module to add Promise RAID support to other systems that used the
>>2.2.16-22 kernal.
>
>>>How do I add the device support for the RAID card into the 2.4.2
>>>kernel? I would prefer to add the support into the kernel directly,
>>>rather than as a loadable module, since I spend a LOT of time in the
>>>windows partition.
>
>>The 2.4.2 kernel has support for the Promise ATA100 cards. (You
>>probably didn't see it when you configured your kernel--you have
>>to have some other options on before you are presented with the
>>option.) Look in the Documentation subdirectory of your kernel
>>source tree for the file Configure.help and search for the first
>>occurence of the string "promise"
>
>Or 'PDC', I have the non-raid version myself.
>
>><snip>
>
>>>The README.TXT file only gives the instructions for using the driver
>>>disk in conjunction with the "Expert text" function as part of an
>>>initial RH install, nothing about using it when you compile a new kernel.
>
>>Actually at one time there was a note either on Promise's website or
>>in some of the documentation with the driver that said it could only
>>be used with RH6.2 or RH7.0 (They don't supply the source, just the
>>pre-compiled object module).
>
>>>Any help would be greatly appreciated. I think I may need to find a
>>>"dumber book" than "Running Linux" until I really get a grasp on things.
>>>On the other hand, since I just installed linux a few days ago, and
>>>just got the books yesterday, I'm happy with the progress I'm making
>>>(compiled and booted from a new kernel, learned how to edit LILO, mount
>>>devices, configure a printer under KDE, etc..) Learning this is almost
>>>as much fun as when I got my first computer!
>>>
>>Sounds like you are doing very well for a beginner. You've done most of
>>the things that beginners seem to have trouble with. Dealing with new/
>>or experimental drivers is beyond a lot of Linux users.
>
>>(And your last line brings a real grin to my face. If you have enjoyed
>>it that much so far, it just gets better.
>
>>-ray
>
>
>Cheers, Gene
>--
> Gene Heskett, CET, UHK |Amiga A2k Zeus040, Linux @ 500mhz
> email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
>#Amiga based X10 home automation program EZHome, see at:#
> <http://www.thirdwave.net/~jimlucia/amigahomeauto>
>This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material,
>is � 2001 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
>--
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Gardner)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2?
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 23:52:06 GMT
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:11:08 +0100, "P60" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>--------------------------------------
>This bootable SCSI Module only supports Redhat 6.2 and 7.0. If you choose to
>use any other Kernel or version of the Redhat
>you must recompile the Kernel against our SCSI module.
>--------------------------------------
>How do you recompile a kernel against Promises SCSI module, and what module
>are they talking about?
>Arne
I was also at a loss as to exactly what process they're describing
there. Maybe that's the source of all our problems...
Scott
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From: "Almer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: which forum or irc for newbie help?
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:03:39 GMT
you can run Xconfigurator (when not running X) and auto-probe your
videomodes or set them yourself
Dr.virus wrote in message <97p1jv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>can any 1 help me in setting up my graphucs i use rh 6.2 when i logg in to
>startx mode, all the objects appear too large as i am using 640 x 800 is
>there any way i can make it look small or can in reduce the resolution to
>800 x 600
>
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2?
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:09:45 +0100
In comp.os.linux.setup Scott Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1 Mar 2001 8:28:5 -0500, "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>It should be built as a module, and insmod'd to bring it in in the boot
>>cycle.
> I tried that today. I found the object file "ft.o", and tried to
> "insmod" it after booting up into 2.4.2, and it fails, giving me the
> error that "ft.o" was compiled for kernel 2.2.16-22, and that I'm
> currently running 2.4.2.
Well boot into 2.2.18-22, then, or recompile the module for 2.4.2!
> Still stuck, ...
Why, in heavens name?
Peter
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Mouse doesn't work in Red Hat 7.0 !
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:16:35 +0100
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Stijn Vanveerdeghem wrote:
> When i start Xwindows in Red Hat 7.0 the mouse pointer doesn't move if I
> touch the mouse. I use a Logitech IFeel Mouse (USB) , but when i use a
> serial or Logitech PS/2 mouse, i have a similar problem. What can I do ?
>
> Sometimes it seems like the cursor moves a little bit. But mostly it doesnt
> do anything.
Sounds like it is simply misconfigured. Try to configure it with
'mouseconfig'.
Rasmus
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From: Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: netscape.public.general
Subject: Linux/Win share mail files on dual boot
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:29:36 GMT
My goal is to be able to get/send mail from my dial-up ISP whether
logged in as Linux or Windows AND have 1 single set of mail files that I
can examine from either Linux or Windows. I work about 1/2 the time
booted on each, so it would make life easier.
I have a dual boot pc with one of the windows partitions read/writeable
to linux. Win 95, Redhat Linux 6.2, Intel pentium desktop.
I could upgrade to W2K, but have no compelling reason, yet.
I have Netscape 4.75 working under Windows.
I have Netscape 4.72 working under Linux (can be upgraded to 4.75).
I almost have it working but I think Netscape uses a different set of
summary files for Linux & windows. I might be able to softlink the
linux name to the windows name.
Ideally, I'd like to use MS Outlook on Windows (let's not get
sidetracked with MS comments) & Netscape or Mozilla on Linux.
I thought I'd run it past a couple netscape & linux newsgroups before
proceeding, in case anyone else has already done it or finds it
interesting. This is the 1st time I've looked under the hood at
email.
My ultimate goal is quick, consistent access to my email. Maybe I'm
barking up the wrong tree. Maybe there's a different solution.
Any advice is appreciated.
Chuck Stevenson
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From: "William B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows and Screens problems
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:05:40 +0900
Hi I have this problem with my Red Hat 7 installation. When I open up
various windows they are bigger than the screen. This is particularly true
for Netscape. Everything is too big in Netscape and half the screen or half
the information is to the right of the screen or to the right of the
Netscape window. This is true inspite of the fact that the scroll bar is
visible. I tried Xconfigurator but that didn't do it. This is true in both
KDE and Gnome
Thanks,
William Claster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Carl Pole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: install problem
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:09:46 GMT
i had 6.4 running on my old amptron 8600c/amd k6-333/maxtor 5.1 gig
setup but after i moved to a FIC va-503a motherboard and a western
digital 20 gig drive the install crashes after these 2 lines:
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xc000-0xc007, Bios settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xc008-0xc00f, Bios settings: hdc:pio, hdd:DMA
i have the 20 gig drive as the primary master and a philips 8x4x32 as
secondary slave. the primary has 2 fat 32 partitions, at the beginning
and the end with about 4 gigs devoted to linux in the middle. i'm pretty
sure the free space is all under cylinder 1024 if it matters but it
seems that i'm not getting far enough for that to be a concern.
any ideas?
this is attempting a suse 6.4 install
carl
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: UPS install
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:17:57 -0500
Axel Haenssen wrote:
> I have a problem installing a APC Back Office UPS on my workstation.
> When I install the software I am getting the errormessage "can't
> communicate with device".
Are you using the cable that you got from APC? They don't use
the standard RS-232 pin layout on the serial port on the UPS;
you'll either have to use their cable or find a source for
the pinout info on the UPS so you can build your own.
> FG 1 - - - Frame Ground
> TxD 2 3 out - Transmit Data
> RxD 3 2 in - Receive Data
> RTS 4 7 out 1 Request To Send
> CTS 5 8 in 0 Clear To Send
> DSR 6 6 in 1 Data Set Ready
> GND 7 5 - - Signal Ground
> DCD 8 1 in 0 Data Carrier Detect
> DTR 20 4 out 1 Data Terminal Ready
> RI 22 9 in 0 Ring Indicator
If I'm not mistaken, this is a standard 25-pin-to-9-pin
connection scheme, which won't work on APC's boxes.
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From: "subchaa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: partition question
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:24:55 -0000
what is a non destructive partition manager? Does it allow me to re-size my
windows partition to allow me to put another in??
Thanks in advance
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From: dad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mike Perry --Re: cannot update from 7 to 7.1 scsi devices???????????
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:31:05 +0000
Hi Mike
I would love to remove the SCSI module - I am now a 3 day old Linux user and
haven't the first idea how to do it.
I found a linux disc on a magazine (which I have long since thrown out) and
finally plucked up the courage to try it. The book I bought to help me had
Linux 7.1 on board and I thought to upgrade -- OOOPS!
Any help asnd adfvice deeply appreciated
Mike Perry wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:32:45 +0000, yup! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I am trying to update from mandrake 7 to mandrake 7.1.
> >The setup keeps asking if I have any scsi devices and the answer is
> >NO. Mandrake 7 says that my cd r/w is a scsci but it is ide???
> >
> >I cannot get past this blasted item.
> >
> >HELP!
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I would remove the ide-scsi emulation before trying to update. Take the
> device back to its regular ide cd state. When you do scsi emulation, you
> load a module called ide-scsi which fakes out the scsi bus a bit. I bet the
> update sees some phantom scsi loaded and thinks its a real scsi device.
>
> --
> Michael Perry
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ------------------
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: iomega zip strange problem
Date: 3 Mar 2001 02:01:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:10:54 +0000, Olivier Ravard staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>I want to have a dual boot server with NT and Linux.
>The PC have a DD, DVD ROM, and an iomega zip on ide.
>
>I installed NT and all works fine.
>I installed Linux RedHat 6.2 and all works fine.
>Reboot on NT and blue screen...
>
>Re-install NT and all works fine.
>Re-install Linux deconnecting the zip. All works fine.
>Reboot on NT reconnecting the zip and all works fine.
>Reboot on Linux (reconnecting the zip) and the DD is not recognized...
What's a DD? Did you mean a Hard Drive (HD)? DD can also mean a Double
Density floppy drive, and dd is a lowlevel disk utility.
Anyway, you should check the jumper settings on the devices. The hard
drive must be master on the primary IDE controller (otherwise NT would
not work at all) and you can connect the other devices wherever you like
as long as the jumpers are set correctly. ZIP drives are usually set as
"slave" at the factory, while CD/DVD drives are usually set as "master".
If you don't plug them into the right places and don't change the jumper
settings, NT may not complain, but Linux will.
The output of dmesg might be useful--boot from a boot floppy if you
can't get into your Linux system now.
PS: je peux lire et �crire fran�ais si anglais est difficile pour vous.
Mettez votre message sur e-mail; on parle anglais ici.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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