Linux-Setup Digest #742, Volume #20               Sat, 3 Mar 01 05:13:12 EST

Contents:
  How do I apply a kernel patch? (Pumpkinhead)
  Re: How do I apply a kernel patch? (David)
  Re: boot problem: LIL- (Nader)
  Re: LILO Hangs at 'L' (E J)
  Re: Booting into Windows hangs (E J)
  Re: 1024 cylinder limit (David Efflandt)
  Problem w/lilo and multiple booting (Rick Smith)
  Re: Anybody out there using a USB harddrive (~20Gb)? (David Efflandt)
  Re: rewriting the MRB ("sandy")
  Re: free ISP for linux (David Efflandt)
  Re: How do I apply a kernel patch? (Bora Ugurlu)
  Re: ppp (2.4) not working with kernel 2.2.4 (Bora Ugurlu)
  Re: http loopback taking 14 minutes (David Efflandt)
  Re: Linux-Mandrake install stops when trying to initialize CDROM drive (David 
Efflandt)
  Re: Netgear FA310 Drivers? (David Efflandt)
  Re: How to copy existing linux installation to another hdd? (Dmitri)
  Re: How to copy existing linux installation to another hdd? (root)
  Re: setting IP on hp network printer (Stefano Ghirlanda)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pumpkinhead)
Subject: How do I apply a kernel patch?
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 06:14:32 GMT

i have rh6.2 running 2.2.18 and wish to apply patch-2.2.18.gz.

has anyone done this before?

i go:

% cd /usr/src
% patch -p0 < patch-2.2.18

and get something like:

previous reversed patch detected.  assume -R [n]

does anyone have any clue of what's happening?

peter

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I apply a kernel patch?
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 06:22:26 GMT

Pumpkinhead wrote:
> 
> i have rh6.2 running 2.2.18 and wish to apply patch-2.2.18.gz.
> 
> has anyone done this before?
> 
> i go:
> 
> % cd /usr/src
> % patch -p0 < patch-2.2.18
> 
> and get something like:
> 
> previous reversed patch detected.  assume -R [n]
> 
> does anyone have any clue of what's happening?
> 
> peter

I think you need to unpack the patch and then.

cd /usr/src/linux
patch -p0 < /full/path/to/patch.diff

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Completed more W/U's than 99.086% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

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From: Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot problem: LIL-
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 22:47:04 -0800

Nope, just reran LILO.  My /boot and ? are both on hde5.

When you run LILO, use -v to verify it's writing to the boot sector you expect.


Brian Horton wrote:

> Well, I'm still hosed -- NOT RESOLVED! :-)
>
> I tried playing w/ the rescue floppy, and that didn't help.. did you
> change anything in your lilo.conf when you re-ran lilo from that point?
> is your /boot filesystem separate? or combined with your / (root)?
>
> My /boot is on hda1 and my root is hda6. I even tried copying the stuff
> from my hda1 boot into the /boot directory on hda6, changed lilo.conf to
> have boot=/dev/hda6, and that still didn't work - still froze at
> LIL-....
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> thx.bri.
>
> Nader wrote:
> >
> > I just had the same problem and had to boot with my rescue floppy.  I don't
> > know of anything dramatic I did (e.g., haven't changed lilo.conf or boot
> > record) recently to cause this.  It's been working fine for a few months
> > now, including last night.  Off to the internet for some research...
> >
> > Brian Horton wrote:
> >
> > > Hope someone can help me.. this machine was working fine, and then
> > > 'something happened' and now lilo freezes with: LIL- on boot. Found the
> > > error description for that and tried everything listed, but nothing
> > > seems to point to what the problem is. (Error description says: 'The
> > > descriptor table is corrupt. This can either be caused by a geometry
> > > mismatch or by moving /boot/map without running the map installer. ')
> > >
> > >


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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: LILO Hangs at 'L'
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 07:57:04 GMT

Ancient??!!  I am on a Winchip 240 machine.

# man lilo.conf # for background info

# add this to your lilo.conf
 disk=/dev/hdb
       bios=0x80
#your (primary slave) IDE disk is the first BIOS disk

Alexis M wrote:

> I just setup Redhat 7.0 on an ancient machine (AMD 400)  I found in my
> closet. I installed Linux on /dev/hdb, i.e. Primary Slave hard drive.
>
> There is no primary master, there is something wrong with my motherboard,
> and I can only slave drives work (Primary slave is my HD, Secondary slave is
> my CD-ROM).
>
> The system boots fine from floppy, but when I try to boot from the HD, LILO
> hangs on the letter "L". When I ran /sbin/lilo, I got a message saying:
> "Warning: /dev/hdb is not on the first disk". I know the HD can boot from
> primary slave, since I used to have Windoze 98 on the PC.
>
> Is there any way to get this to work? I've tried disabling all boot devices
> in my BIOS, and also disabled Virus protection in BIOS.
>
> My lilo.conf reads:
>
> boot=/dev/hdb
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> message=/boot/message
> linear
> default=linux
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16.mine
>         label=linux
>         read-only
>         root=/dev/hdb1
>
> If you've read this far, thanks!!! Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Alexis M
>
> < a l e x _ m 7 4   at   h o t m a i l   dot   c o m >


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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting into Windows hangs
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 08:05:47 GMT

That is unreliable windows for you!!!
In my case, it is the virus scan usually hanging up Windows.
Run scan disk and defrag your Windows.
Keep your virus scan up todate.

John Nelson wrote:

> All,
>
> I recently installed RH7 on the same disk as my Windows partition.  Windows is the 
>first
> partition on the disk.  Linux is the second.  Lilo is installed on the MBR.  Booting 
>into
> Linux is no problem but everytime I boot into Windows, Windows wedges solid during
> the "clouds startup screen".  Then I have to reboot but rebooting sends me into 
>"safe mode"
> and disk scan.  A second reboot succeeds.
>
> I can't keep doing this though.  So any ideas on why this is happening and what I can
> do to correct this problem.  I'm quite sure this is not a "Windows" problem but 
>rather
> I think it's a partition problem of some kind.   Cylinder alignment perhaps?  I 
>really
> don't know.
>
> -- John
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> web:    http://www.computation.com/
> email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> _____________________________________________________________________


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: 1024 cylinder limit
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:27:25 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:30:17 -0500, Javier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What is the 1024 cylinder limit?  Does that mean anything under 8GB?  If
>not, how do you calculate what the 1024 cylinder limit is?

If you have a lilo (or other boot loader) that used the old int13 BIOS
call to boot, it could only access the first 1024 cylinders (0-1023)  of
the disk, so LILO itself and the kernel it had to access (in /boot) had to
be entirely under cyl 1024 on the drive.  But what that size depended upon
whether your BIOS supported drive translation (multiplying heads and
dividing cyls by a factor) rather than the actual heads and cyls.  The
kernel itself can access larger drives once it is loaded, since it uses
its own BIOS.

The most recent lilo versions can get around that limitation, but I am not
sure which Linux distros include it.  Also you may still have to boot
within the size range that your system BIOS supports (does BIOS see
your full drive size?).

386 BIOS did not support any translation so it was limited to 528 meg
(about 504 MB formatted), although, I had an EideMAX card that got around
that.  With translation the 1024 cyl limit is somewhere over 8 GB (8.4
drive size?).

If you are uncertain if your lilo has the 1024 cyl limit, it is best to
create a primary /boot partition ending below cyl 1024 (for a drive around
8 GB or more this could be a 1 cyl 16 MB partition).  You can either put
LILO there (preferred so Windows does not step on it) and make that the
active boot partition or LILO can go in the MBR (and make sure that you
have a working boot floppy).

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From: Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem w/lilo and multiple booting
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:48:24 -0600

Hi.

I'm trying to setup a pc with two versions of DOS and RH linux 7.0. The
first DOS installed in hda2 and the second on hda3. Linux is installed
on hda1. lilo is installed on the MBR.

The lilo.conf I'm using:

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
linear
default=linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
  label=linux
  read-only
  root=/dev/hda1

other=/dev/hda2
  label=Windoze
  change
    partition=/dev/hda3
      deactivate
      set=DOS16_big_hidden
    partition=/dev/hda2
      activate
      set=DOS16_big_normal

other=/dev/hda3
  label=AutoDOS
  change
    partition=/dev/hda2
      deactivate
      set=DOS16_big_hidden
    partition=/dev/hda3
      activate
      set=DOS16_big_normal

When I boot to Linux and Windoze, everthing works fine. When I boot to
AutoDos, hda3 is made active, but the line set=DOS16_big_normal does not
seem to take effect, and hda3 remains hidden. If I used Partition magic
to make hda3 visible, AutoDOS boots fine. If I (as a debug tool) changed
the active of hda3 under AutoDOS to deactivate, hda3 is now not active,
proving that the active and set=DOS16_big_normal inde AutoDOS /dev/hda3
is being executed when I think it should be.

Any help appreciated.

Rick



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Anybody out there using a USB harddrive (~20Gb)?
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:38:59 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 01 Mar 2001, dangerouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I've got a Kanguru that I use with a Sony Viao laptop.  I'd like to put
>linux on it.  I've just downloaded 2.4 and will try building a kernel
>for it.  The 2.2.18 with patches didn't work.  Any advise/gotcha's would
>be appreciated.

I am also curious about USB drive support.  I just found SUSE 7.1 for $20
at Best Buy, which has both kernels 2.2.18 and 2.4, so I am going to load
it on my Viao (F450) this weekend.  It would be interesting to see if its
USB support could access or write to a USB CD-RW drive (VST portable) or
if there is any 1394 support yet (1394 adapter is available for this
drive or I was considering a Firewire hard drive).

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From: "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: rewriting the MRB
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 08:52:14 GMT


"Jeff Milton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> can anyone tell me how to reinstall/rewrite the MRB for dual boot?
>
> I inslatted win98, then linux, and everything worked fine.  then
> something evil happenned and now I get a "L"<freeze> when I boot.  I
<snip>

Like the posts said, use "fdisk /mbr".

That will take you back to normal MBR, but then you can't
boot linux from the hard drive afterwards.

The "L"<freeze>  problem is a symtom of having the linux
boot above the 1024 cylinder or you may have changed the
disk geometry in the BIOS setup.

Best is to use LBA for everything (BIOS) and then add
"lba32" to your lilo.config file.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: free ISP for linux
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:06:41 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 01 Mar 2001 05:22:02 GMT, HYLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm in San Francisco Bay Area, U.S.

The best was freewwweb, but unfortunately they went belly up and were
sucked up by Juno.  Even Windows users are having trouble finding free US
ISPs, which are now limiting online time for anywhere from 40 to 12 hrs
per month.

I got in on a $9.95/mo unlimited deal for a nationwide ISP for travelling.  
Their rates since went up to a more normal $19.95/mo, but I just got a 3
month bill for $29.85, so I am apparently still getting the old rate.

When I thought my rates were going to go up, the most promising
alternative looked like http://www.axsinet.com/
I have no idea how reliable they are, but they have a professional
appearance, 36,000 newsgroups, 15 MB webspace for $14.95/mo

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From: Bora Ugurlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I apply a kernel patch?
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:09:27 +0100

David wrote:

> Pumpkinhead wrote:
>> 
>> i have rh6.2 running 2.2.18 and wish to apply patch-2.2.18.gz.
>> 
>> has anyone done this before?
>> 
>> i go:
>> 
>> % cd /usr/src
>> % patch -p0 < patch-2.2.18
>> 
>> and get something like:
>> 
>> previous reversed patch detected.  assume -R [n]
>> 
>> does anyone have any clue of what's happening?
>> 
>> peter
> 
> I think you need to unpack the patch and then.
> 
> cd /usr/src/linux
> patch -p0 < /full/path/to/patch.diff
> 

And then?

Recompile the kernel or what?

Bora
-- 



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From: Bora Ugurlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp (2.4) not working with kernel 2.2.4
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:13:07 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:30:11 -0000, john bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>linux pppd[785]: /usr/lib/passwordfd.so: invalid ELF header (tried
>>recompiling)
>>linux pppd[785]: Couldn't load plugin /usr/lib/passwordfd.so
> 
> You don't say what distro you're using, but I had this problem only a few
> days ago using SuSE 7.0 pro.
> 
> I found an article on the SuSE support database about it.  If I remember
> correctly it suggests that you've got two packages installed that are
> conflicting.  One is ppp (which you need) but the other (which the article
> identifies, but which I can't remember) has to be removed.  Look for
> "wvdial".
> 
> Of course your mileage might vary, especially if you're not using SuSE.
> 
> Chris Ward.
> 

I have the same problem, I can't install ppp 2.4, and I double checked that 
I don't have the ppp-ssl package installed. 
It still doesn't work.

Bora

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: http loopback taking 14 minutes
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:22:05 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 01 Mar 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > 
>> > I have a java app which calls httpd.  Both httpd and my java app are on
>> > the same box, but I address the server with its name, i.e.
>> > http://www.nowhere.com:8080/my.jsp.  I can see that "my.jsp" has
>> > finished, by its having written to a log, but may java app, which is
>> > acting as the client, does not get a response for as long as 14 minutes.
>> > 
>> > What could create the delay?  I can ping in 0.1ms, but this http
>> > response...
>> > 
>> > - Craig
>> 
>> Your name lookup is most likely timing out on one DNS server, then going
>> to the next. The lag is the timeout. You can verify this by using your
>> numeric/dotted-decimal ip address in place of "www.nowhere.com"...if
>> dotted-decimal form is fast, then it is your DNS source, whereby the
>> first one does not know the answer and takes its time getting to the
>> second source (and then maybe the third). A place to look is
>> /etc/resolv.conf, and /etc/host.conf. Be sure your /etc/hosts file is
>> searched first before DNS, and that DNS servers are listed correctly.
>> That way if "www.nowhere.com" is listed in /etc/hosts, it'll be found
>> instantly.
>
>My host.conf looks like this:
>   order host,bind
>   multi on
>
>My resolv.conf, like this:
>   domain nowhere.com
>   nameserver 172.16.0.240
>   nameserver 172.16.0.241
>   search nowhere.com nowhere.net
>
>and a nslookup returns (very quickly):
>   # nslookup europa.nowhere.com
>   Server:  ns1.nowhere.com
>   Address:  172.16.0.240
>
>   Non-authoritative answer:
>   Name:    europa.nowhere.com
>   Address:  172.16.0.42
>
>   #
>
>Anything look wrong...

Yes, there could be confusion with the REAL nowhere.com.  You should use a
fictional domain for private IPs.  What does 'nslookup 172.16.0.42' return
(does your reverse lookup work)?

> set q=any
> nowhere.com
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

Non-authoritative answer:
nowhere.com     nameserver = NS1.nowhere.com
nowhere.com     nameserver = NS2.nowhere.com
nowhere.com     internet address = 204.29.203.70

Authoritative answers can be found from:
nowhere.com     nameserver = NS1.nowhere.com
nowhere.com     nameserver = NS2.nowhere.com
NS1.nowhere.com internet address = 169.207.160.20
NS2.nowhere.com internet address = 206.190.29.173

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Linux-Mandrake install stops when trying to initialize CDROM drive
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:33:01 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:30:25 -0500, Zhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to install Linux-Mandrake 7.2.  I have tried booting from the
>CDROM, a CDROM boot floppy, and a hard disk boot floppy.  The issue occurs
>with all 3 install methods.  The install program initializes and works fine
>the first time, but the second time, the install program stops.  Near the
>bottom of the screen, the words "in second installation phase" (or something
>to that effect) appear.  I have to actually cut the power to reboot.  Any
>advice?

I don't know, but Mandrake 7.0 was kind of weird in that the CD had to be
in the drive when the kernel booted, but it could not find the install
files if I booted from the cdrom.  From looking at kernel boot messages
from another vt I eventually discovered that it checks the cdrom while the
kernel is booting and if it cannot mount and find the install files at
that time (which I guess it cannot do while booting from it) it will not
try that cdrom device again (when it asks where to install from).

Try either disabling booting from cdrom in CMOS setup and insert the CD
before booting from the boot floppy, or insert the CD quickly before
hitting enter at the boot: prompt.  The instructions did not explain that
(and this is totally different from RedHat that lets you insert the CD
when asking where to install from).

-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Netgear FA310 Drivers?
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:44:44 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, Scot Mc Pherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone know how to get this card recognized and running? I am not having
>much success with it.

This worked with the default tulip module that came with RH 6.1 and
Mandrake 7.0, In /etc/conf.modules (or modules.conf) try the following:

alias eth0 tulip

However, in newer kernels (I am using 2.2.17) I have had better luck using
the old_tulip module.

You then need to configure eth0 for an IP or dhcpcd (or pump?) and any
routing that is not automatic for the network tools in your Linux distro.

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From: Dmitri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: How to copy existing linux installation to another hdd?
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 12:02:27 +0200

Big thanks for manuals for cp and tar command, but I think that there
is also present a boot records... Of course I can copy all, but what
about /proc, /dev directories, do I need to copy them? How to make new
hdd bootable same as old?

Thanks in advance,
Dmitri.

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: How to copy existing linux installation to another hdd?
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 10:03:21 GMT

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.help No Spam mapS oN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My man pages tell me that cp -a is equivalent to cp -dpR.  Seems that
> > using cp -par is somewhat redundant, all you need is cp -a to achieve
> > the same effect.
> 
> -r is not the same as -R. But I agree. In fact I agree most heartily
> because -r is not the same as -R! -R is right.
> 
> Peter

Another method is use parted;

parted
select DEVICE                             choose the device to edit
mkpartfs PART-TYPE FS-TYPE START END      make a partition with a
filesystem
cp [FROM-DEVICE] FROM-MINOR TO-MINOR      copy filesystem to another
partition

Keith

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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting IP on hp network printer
Date: 03 Mar 2001 11:07:21 +0100

Omar Stoltzfus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Stefano Ghirlanda wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I have bought a used hp4050n that was on another netowrk, and I need
> > to reset IP and gateway addresses. I have tried the setup programs on
> > the hp site but they do not work here (slackware 7.0) and do not
> > provide any useful hint about why they are failing...
> >
> > Has anyone any info on how to do this?
>
> Use the printer controls to print a configuration page.  This should
> list the ip address.  telnet to the ip address and then change the ip
> address to whatever.  I think exit will save changes and quit doesn't.
> BTW this only works if the 4050 is connected to a network.

Thanks! But I have a problem with telnet because the wrong gateway is
set on the printer so it cannot be reached... our local network is
routed through a different gateway. 

Other suggestions?

-- 
Stefano - Hodie quinto Nonas Martias MMI est

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