Linux-Setup Digest #814, Volume #20 Mon, 12 Mar 01 22:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Lost my Linux partition - now what? (James D Parker Jr)
Re: ??????????????????? [no mesg] ("*harmonix*")
slackware insists on booting with grub?! ("Oo.et.oO")
Re: Best Partitioning Practice ? ("Greg H.")
Goin Shoppin (olliecat)
LCD Monitors with xWindows (Not Laptops) (Coolbrit)
Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working (HateLinux)
Sending mail under red hat 7.0 HELP (HateLinux)
Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working (HateLinux)
Flakey Mouse in SuSE 7.1 (Cole Trapnell)
PPP configuration for Redhat 6.0 ("David R. Bouchard")
Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working (Steve Martin)
Re: Win2k and Linux install on Sony Z600TEK - WITH LILO? ("Barry")
how to unix Command - ls (Ray)
Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working (WebHead)
Re: how to unix Command - ls (David)
Re: Goin Shoppin (David)
Re: ??????????????????? [no mesg] ("chris")
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From: James D Parker Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Lost my Linux partition - now what?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:26:13 -0500
Michael Heiming wrote:
> "James D Parker Jr." wrote:
>
> > Michael Heiming wrote:
> >
> > > George Adams wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have (well, had) a dual-boot PC running Win95 and RH Linux 6.2. In the
> > > > process of upgrading my Win95 partition to Win98, my boot sector and LILO
> > > > got overwritten. Now the PC boots straights into Win98. The Linux
> > > > partition is still there, but with no LILO it's pretty much inaccessible.
> > > >
> > > > I don't have a Linux boot disk (though I can probably get one if it will
> > > > help.) Is there any way to get back into my Linux partition so I can
> > > > reinstall LILO?
> > >
> > > If Win98 didn't canibalize more than your MBR, which it normaly doesn't, it
> > > should be no problem.
> > >
> > > Get a boot/rescue CD/disk,boot and mount your / to /mnt, asuming your
> > > /etc/lilo.conf was OK:
> > >
> > > lilo -C /mnt/etc/lilo.conf
> > >
> > > Should be all you need to do
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > >
> > > Michael Heiming
> >
> > Oops, I pressed the wrong button.
>
> Doesn't matter, that's what this Cancel message option NS-Crashicator is
> about...
>
> >
> >
> > You will probably have to point to where lilo is: e.g.,
> >
> > /mnt/sbin/lilo -C /mnt/etc/lilo.conf
> >
>
> Without being picky, asuming you use the rescue CD/disk that belongs to your
> distro, you
> should have the right lilo version on this rescue system, which will be in your
> PATH.
>
> If the OP had updated his lilo, he wouldn't have asked this question...
>
> Michael Heiming
I have Red Hat 7.0. Lilo is not in PATH when I bring up rescue CD/disk. Guess
it's YMMV.
Jim
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From: "*harmonix*" <# rm -fr / *@ death is defeat.org>
Subject: Re: ??????????????????? [no mesg]
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:33:25 -0000
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From: "Oo.et.oO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: slackware insists on booting with grub?!
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:48:17 GMT
hi-
no matter what i do, my new slackware 7.1 install ALWAYS tries to boot
with grub and has NO idea what to do. i did not install grub. I don't
know where it came from. i have to specify where the kernel is and then
tell it to boot.
i'm booting from /dev/sda1 and i have infact installed lilo there
twice. but it doesn't care, it still boots with grub. how is this
possible?
-eric
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From: "Greg H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Partitioning Practice ?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:51:05 GMT
Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Could someone tell me the best way to format a new PC with a 30 GIG HD to
> be
>> able to run Win 98 and Linux in a dual boot system ?
>>
>> I tried to install Linux into an Extended partition and it didn't like it.
> Sure it does.
> No reason why linux would even care about it.
> Booting it may be somewhat more troublesome this way,
> but even that's not too hard.
I didn't address this question in my other post, but I was wondering if
he made the extended partition with DOS fdisk. I've never created extended/
logical partitions with DOS fdisk for use with anything other than DOS/Windows.
I would think/hope that it wouldn't matter, but I normally expect MS to put
something in there to break compatibility.
Greg
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From: olliecat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Goin Shoppin
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:18:08 GMT
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I'm going to finally break down and build a new box. I've never done this
before but I think it will be a good learning experience. What I'm not so sure
of is what components will be best suited to run Linux so I wanted to open it up
to the Linux community for recommendations. I'm thinking this might be a common
question so pointers to descriptive docs would be much appreciated as well as
your own personal advice.
I would like to get a motherboard/processor that will allow me some growing
room. I don't want something that will become technically obsolete in two
years. I heard that AMD might be a good choice here, processor wise anyway.
Not so sure about the motherboard. I have IDE drives now and haven't had a
problem but have been informed that for drives and other peripherals SCSI is the
way to go, which seems reasonable.
I want a nice video card (that plays nice with XFree86) and a nice sound card.
I like to play games. I really like the space savings of the newer flat screen
monitors but understand they might not have as good resolution as the standard
CRT. I want a nice cd burner, external would be preferable, an internal DVD/CD
player, as well as a floppy drive. Oodles of (cheap but good) memory is
important, and nice fast hard drive(s) with as much room as possible. I would
also like an external tape drive to perform backups on. I want to try and do
all of this for under $2000. The machine, when complete, will be used as a
developer workstation.
Thanks for any advice.
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<tt>I'm going to finally break down and build a new box. I've never
done this before but I think it will be a good learning experience.
What I'm not so sure of is what components will be best suited to run Linux
so I wanted to open it up to the Linux community for recommendations.
I'm thinking this might be a common question so pointers to descriptive
docs would be much appreciated as well as your own personal advice.</tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt>I would like to get a motherboard/processor that will allow me some
growing room. I don't want something that will become technically
obsolete in two years. I heard that AMD might be a good choice here,
processor wise anyway. Not so sure about the motherboard. I
have IDE drives now and haven't had a problem but have been informed that
for drives and other peripherals SCSI is the way to go, which seems
reasonable.</tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt>I want a nice video card (that plays nice with XFree86) and a nice
sound card. I like to play games. I really like the space savings
of the newer flat screen monitors but understand they might not have as
good resolution as the standard CRT. I want a nice cd burner, external
would be preferable, an internal DVD/CD player, as well as a floppy drive.
Oodles of (cheap but good) memory is important, and nice fast hard drive(s)
with as much room as possible. I would also like an external tape
drive to perform backups on. I want to try and do all of this for
under $2000. The machine, when complete, will be used as a developer
workstation.</tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt>Thanks for any advice.</tt></html>
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From: Coolbrit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LCD Monitors with xWindows (Not Laptops)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:33:18 +0000
Can someone help me?
i need to setup a Sharp LL-T155A monitor for xWindows. However no
matter what i do, when i run startx the computer crashes and the
screen goes funny.
When i say crashes i mean i cannot Ctrl-Alt-Del it or anything else.
The monitor supports
VGA 640x480
SVGA 800x600 35.1kHz + 56Hz
or
XGA 1024x768 48.4kHz + 60Hz
I have tried using all modes but i cannt get it to work and its
starting to bug me now!! :)
Any help would be great
the graphics card is s3 (virge) 86C325
its the latset version of X.
TIA
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From: I_like_2B@home (HateLinux)
Subject: Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:18:06 GMT
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 04:18:48 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Identifier "Samsung SyncMaster 3"
>> HorizSync 31.5,35.2,35.5,37.5,38
>> VertRefresh 50-90
>
>Thats crazy, isn't it? Surely you don't have fixed frequencies! and
>at such low frequencies! You want
It is what is written in the manual
>
> HorizSync 31.5-55
> VertRefresh 50-90
No. That would burn it.
>
>Or something equally reasonable.
>
>> (/usr/X11R6/share/Xconfigurator/MonitorsDB)
>> Samsung; Samsung SyncMaster 3; 45; 31.5,35.2,35.5,37.5,38; 50-90
>
>Surely you are joking! That would be a ten year old model at about 14"
>and incapable of anything but 640x480. Is it?
5 years old. 14". It still figures in just about any win/linux
configuration file as it was one of the most popular monitors of its
time.Well made too, I still have mine... It is my reserve however, as
I pointed out in my first letter.
>
>> I got it working with a 640 vga screen, but that is too big to be
>> practical.
>
>Too small, you mean!
I am using it under windows right now, 800x600, 32bit true
color. Which is fine. I don't know why linux will not work with this
resolution.
>
>Nothing else could match those figures you gave. 800x600 at a stretch
>maybe.
I still need that stretch...
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From: I_like_2B@home (HateLinux)
Subject: Sending mail under red hat 7.0 HELP
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:18:03 GMT
I cannot set up kde or gnome, (apparently my monitor in
incompatible) so I have to use the command line.
I have spent a total of 12 hours in the last two days trying
to set up my mail.
I read the mail client howto, but that just said "use mutt"
I read the config howto, but that just told me that I could
not send mail under linux , only receive it.
So I read the fetchmail man , also the faq, which taught me
nothing at all.
I then found a letter in google that set up fetchmail for me
in about 30 seconds. So I now receive pop mail from my two ISPS with
no trouble at all. After reading 30 seconds of instructions.
That Eric Raymond is a really funny guy. Read his faqs if you
want to learn EVERYTHING BUT the title subject.
I also read the sendmail FAQ, the redhat online sendmail FAQ
(what a pain in the ars* - when will they learn to ZIP the bl#@$dy
things !!!).All the links in the FAQ are invalid, really great as they
contain the actual example code....
I read Bill Unruh's excellent FAQ, but that was about setting
up PPP , and mine works.
I had to reinstall redhat three times during this process, as
I crashed so many programs it made my system unstable. Also boot to
win ... send a letter ... boot to linux ... try to receive it. Send
letter to win ... boot to win ... etc . Real intellectual exercise.
My question is , where do I enter my smtp details so sendmail
can send my mail ? Pretty simple ? If possible tell me WHERE you read
the instructions. My glazed eyes must have passed over the
instructions hundreds of times, without seeing them....
TIA
PS --- I write the message in mutt. Then press Y. If the recipient is
local, it get delivered immediately. If it is an internet address, ,
it says "message sent". But all I get are "unable to deliver" messages
to root.
Fetchmail works fine, the binaries are much better than the
docs.
tag
So I asked the stupid man:
"Do you know Freds address ???"
He smiled , and answered.
"No, but if you go to his house he will tell you"
I thanked him , but I was still lost.
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From: I_like_2B@home (HateLinux)
Subject: Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:18:09 GMT
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:30:03 -0000, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyhoo... it's just my opinion. One guy using Linux a thousand or more
>miles away from you. There are so many reasons why you may be having
>problems and I am certainly not qualified to offer expert advice on how to
>fix them. What I can tell you is this. I feel your pain. Hang in there
>and hopefully someone will be able to chant the right spell to heal your
>machine and make Linux work for you. It's worth the wait.
I told the OS/2 people that they would not survive if they did
not make more apps and games available. OS/2 was vastly superior to
Win 311, but it submerged.
I am trying to tell you Linux people that you probably have as
many apps and games as are necessary. But you have closed yourselves
up into some kind of clan, where knowledge is power. So the man pages,
the FAQS, the Howtos are, with a few exceptions, worthless. Read the
mail-user howto, and ask yourself if it teaches you anything at all.
Read the sendmail FAQ, and see if it teaches you how to send mail to
your ISP. If you read the config - howto, you might notice that it
implies that linux only receives mail. It does not send mail at all.
Read the fetchmail FAQ, it tells you to use the latest
version, and to use fetchmailconf to configure it. But fetchmailconf
is incompatible with the latest version of fetchmail. And so on.
Worthless tripe.
You are very lucky to have a friend who is part of the clan. I
wish you luck...
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From: Cole Trapnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Flakey Mouse in SuSE 7.1
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:07:50 GMT
My proble is twofold
1) USB (at all, but specicially the mouse doesn't work) doesn't work. All
required modules are loaded. Kernel spits out "bulk message timeout. USB
Device not accepting new address"
2)PS/2 Mouse occassionally "goes nuts" sednding a flurry of random signals,
opening and closing windows, etc, after whcih the mouse responds in a
random manner and the X-Server needs to be restarted.
Here's my setup:
Dual Processor PIII 667 (PC133) running on a Tyan Tiger 133 (BIOS 1.05)
Microsoft Intellimouse with Intellieye
kernel 2.4.0 (default from SuSE 7.1)
XFree86 4.0.2 with Nvidia reference driver build 0.9-6 installed (from SuSE
RPMS)
proabably don't matter:
RIVA TNT2 Graphics card
SCSI Scanner and CD-RW
IDE DVD-ROM
IDE HDs
PPPoE DSL (running under rp-pppoe)
Note: The problem with the USB happens under 2.2.16, and 2.2.18 kernels
-thanx
cole
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "David R. Bouchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP configuration for Redhat 6.0
Date: 13 Mar 2001 02:14:01 GMT
Hi,
I need configuration info on concentric.net connectivity. My modem is
working, it is dialing the number, and I have set up the DNS search. Beyond
that I am clueless. Do any of you benevolent souls have any suggestions? I
could really use some help.
Thanks,
DRB
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:49:55 -0500
HateLinux wrote:
> I am trying to tell you Linux people that you probably have as
> many apps and games as are necessary. But you have closed yourselves
> up into some kind of clan, where knowledge is power. So the man pages,
> the FAQS, the Howtos are, with a few exceptions, worthless. Read the
> mail-user howto, and ask yourself if it teaches you anything at all.
> Read the sendmail FAQ, and see if it teaches you how to send mail to
> your ISP. If you read the config - howto, you might notice that it
> implies that linux only receives mail. It does not send mail at all.
> Read the fetchmail FAQ, it tells you to use the latest
> version, and to use fetchmailconf to configure it. But fetchmailconf
> is incompatible with the latest version of fetchmail. And so on.
> Worthless tripe.
> You are very lucky to have a friend who is part of the clan. I
> wish you luck...
<soapbox_mode>
Forgive me for sticking my $0.02 in, but it seems to me that
you are complaining about a non-issue.
Sure, the FAQs and HOWTOs are condensed. Sure, you are not going to
get immediate gratification of your desires. Sure, Linux takes some
studying to get the most from it. Have you ever looked at the sheer
amount of third-party documentation for just about any version of
any Microsoft product (and I don't just mean OS's, either)? I have
on my bookshelf at home no less than twenty hard- and soft-bound
books on Windows 95, 98, and NT 4. I have twice that many on Linux
and related packages. The truth is that there is so much there to
learn that you're not going to get it all and become an expert
immediately. It just don't work that way, whether you're talking
about Linux, Windows, or even OS/2. As for complaining about
not learning how to set up Sendmail from the HOWTO, that's like
complaining that you couldn't learn to fly a Piper Warrior by
looking an an aeronautical chart. By the way, have you ever
tried doing anything in the way of serious system administration
on an NT server? Ever try doing it just based on the silly little
pamphlet that Microsoft calls a "manual" that they include with
the OS? Ever wonder why there's such a market for third-party
documentation for Windows of any flavor? Same principle; ya gotta
do the reading to get the most out of it.
</soapbox_mode>
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From: "Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Win2k and Linux install on Sony Z600TEK - WITH LILO?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:46:16 -0000
I bought the same Z600TEK with W2K and 12/8 Mb partitions. I used
Powerquest's BootMagic (installed under W2K of course) to set W2K as the
default system BEFORE installing linux (Red Hat 7) on the 8 Mb partition.
When installing linux I told Lilo to drop its load onto the 2nd (linux)
partition, not on the MBR. Then I rebooted to W2K, ran BootMagic again, it
found the linux partition and added it to the boot menu. No problems...
Barry
"Daryl Manning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:98icpe$55u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Yeah, that's kind of the problem actually. I have an external floppy and
> would prefer not to carr the sucker around to boot Linux.
>
> Also, while your solution works with Win98 (the same thing worked for me,
> but I let LILO have the MBR, it's a nicer solution)... I don't believe
it'll
> work with Win2K since it takes over the MBR for its bootloader and doesn't
> like it when you don't use it.
>
> I figure someone must have found a way to "nudge" Win2K out of the MBR and
> still get it to boot, as well as getting Linux to work. I was just
wondering
> if anyone could tell me.
>
> There is the WinNT way to do it, but involves changing the boot.ini each
> time you boot up, which I can tell will cause lot sof problems for me as I
> change the LILO frequently depending on wat I'm doing.
>
> ciao, but thanks!
> Daryl.
>
>
>
> "Bill Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:98ibqq$i57$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > You MIGHT consider a 3rd party boot manager such a PowerQuests Boot
Magic
> > (works for me) or System Commander (mooted to be good, but I haven't
used
> > it) They both reside in the MBR (or at least, thats how I visualise
them)
> >
> > I use dual boot betwixt RH6.2 and Win98 using Boot Magic. After the boot
> > magic prompt, I get a lilo prompt set to a very low delay (so I can get
at
> > it if ever I need it) but a delay of 0 also works.
> >
> > As I understand it, lilo is always needed to get linux up, but it can be
> > installed in the same partition as linux itself. Which is what I've
done.
> > Boot magic then points to the linux parttion is all hunky-dorey.
> >
> > Only problem I've found when messign round with kernels is that
lilo.conf
> > needs "repairing" - I get around this by using a bootable floppy.
> >
> > I dunno if anyone has got a more aesthetic solution........
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > "Daryl Manning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:98i9cm$43g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I have just purchased a nice, nifty Sony Z600TEK. Great little machine
> > that
> > > caem with 128MB and a 20GB drive with 2 FAT32 partitions of 12GB and
8GB
> > > (haven't checked to see if there are other hidden partitions).
> > > It came with Win2000Pro installed.
> > >
> > > Now, *before* I got it, I had a nice little Dell laptop with Win98 and
> > dual
> > > booting to Linux RH7. I loved being able to dual boot despite the
thing
> > > weighing as much as an anchor.
> > >
> > > Having read over the HOWTOs on installing Linux to Win2k (WinNT), I am
> > > seriously sweating as I tend to use my laptops for a lot of
experimental
> > > kernal stuff (ie. change the LILO often) and wondering if there is a
way
> > to
> > > actually install Linux which uses LILO in the MBR and *doesn't* mess
up
> > the
> > > Win2k boot loader and such. It absolutely needs to have Win2k on it
and
> I
> > > really need it to dual boot.
> > >
> > > Anyone got any ideas? The idea of recopying the boot.ini each time I
> > change
> > > the LILO for Linux (which I do quite often) is not appealing. I trust
> > LILO,
> > > I don't know if I trust the NT/Win2k boot loader. Anyone care to
> comment?
> > >
> > > Any help appreciated!
> > > Daryl.
> > >
> > > _________________________
> > > Daryl Manning
> > > Paris, France
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to unix Command - ls
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:49:16 -0700
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Greeting
I don't know how to using the 'ls' command in unix with the pause each
page.
please let me know. thanks
--
Regards,
Ray
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Greeting
<p>I don't know how to using the 'ls' command in unix with the pause each
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<br>please let me know. thanks
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Regards,
Ray
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From: WebHead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thirteen Months - Linux still not working
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:55:13 -0500
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 19:18:09 -0500, HateLinux wrote
(in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>):
> I told the OS/2 people that they would not survive if they did
> not make more apps and games available. OS/2 was vastly superior to
> Win 311, but it submerged.
> I am trying to tell you Linux people that you probably have as
> many apps and games as are necessary. But you have closed yourselves
> up into some kind of clan, where knowledge is power. So the man pages,
> the FAQS, the Howtos are, with a few exceptions, worthless. Read the
> mail-user howto, and ask yourself if it teaches you anything at all.
> Read the sendmail FAQ, and see if it teaches you how to send mail to
> your ISP. If you read the config - howto, you might notice that it
> implies that linux only receives mail. It does not send mail at all.
> Read the fetchmail FAQ, it tells you to use the latest
> version, and to use fetchmailconf to configure it. But fetchmailconf
> is incompatible with the latest version of fetchmail. And so on.
> Worthless tripe.
> You are very lucky to have a friend who is part of the clan. I
> wish you luck...
If you will then consider Linux to be the only OS that requires the end user
to pass a basic reading comprehension test. Spend the time reading and
*understanding* what you read and it will work.
--
Enjoy,
WebHead
================================================
Brain: I will accept nothing less than Mahogany!
Pinky: There is no substitute for Diana Ross!
================================================
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to unix Command - ls
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:05:25 GMT
Ray wrote:
>
> Greeting
>
> I don't know how to using the 'ls' command in unix with the pause each
> page.
> please let me know. thanks
ls | less
There you can use the spacebar and up/down arrow keys to browse.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.106% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Goin Shoppin
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 03:03:02 GMT
olliecat wrote:
>
> I'm going to finally break down and build a new box. I've never done
> this before but I think it will be a good learning experience. What
> I'm not so sure of is what components will be best suited to run Linux
> so I wanted to open it up to the Linux community for recommendations.
> I'm thinking this might be a common question so pointers to
> descriptive docs would be much appreciated as well as your own
> personal advice.
>
> I would like to get a motherboard/processor that will allow me some
> growing room. I don't want something that will become technically
> obsolete in two years. I heard that AMD might be a good choice here,
> processor wise anyway. Not so sure about the motherboard. I have IDE
> drives now and haven't had a problem but have been informed that for
> drives and other peripherals SCSI is the way to go, which seems
> reasonable.
>
> I want a nice video card (that plays nice with XFree86) and a nice
> sound card. I like to play games. I really like the space savings of
> the newer flat screen monitors but understand they might not have as
> good resolution as the standard CRT. I want a nice cd burner,
> external would be preferable, an internal DVD/CD player, as well as a
> floppy drive. Oodles of (cheap but good) memory is important, and
> nice fast hard drive(s) with as much room as possible. I would also
> like an external tape drive to perform backups on. I want to try and
> do all of this for under $2000. The machine, when complete, will be
> used as a developer workstation.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
Be sure to shop around if you are going to make purchases on the web. I
found that by shopping around I was able to save money. Maybe not on the
product itself but on shipping. Here is an example.
When I went to purchase my UPS I found a place that had the lowest
price that I had found. I had done a lot of checking. As I started to
place my order I had it in my shopping cart and had proceeded to the
checkout where I checked to see what shipping would cost me. They posted
a shipping price of $114 US dollars which I thought was way to much. I
did some more checking and found that I could pay $12 dollars more for
the UPS and only pay $19 dollars for it shipping. You should be able to
see that by not accepting the first stores shipping price, I ended up
saving $83 dollars on the UPS alone. This was only one example out of
all the components I bought for my system.
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From: "chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ??????????????????? [no mesg]
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:05:06 +0800
ive logged in as root ..then entered startx....i then get this error message
EVECVE FAILED FOR /ETC/X11/X(ERRNO2)
GIVING UP
XINIT CONNECTON REFUSED (ERRNO111)
UNABLE TO CONNECT X SERVER
XINIT NO SUCH PROCESS (ERRNO3)
SERVER ERROR [ROOT@LOCALHOST/ROOT 1
"*harmonix*" <# rm -fr / *@ death is defeat.org> wrote in message
news:IRdr6.16651$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
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