Linux-Setup Digest #835, Volume #20 Thu, 15 Mar 01 13:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: RH 7.0 and Java JSDK1.2.2 (Daryl Fonseca-Holt)
/etc/hosts.deny & hosts.allow (Peadar O'Gaora)
Newbie - Keyboard, BackSpace key behaves like the Delete key in text editor. Both
write '~' when pressed in the command line. ("Newbie from Win98")
In need of assistance (dr.greenthumb)
dual boot-startup disk-linux+win98 (Aranwen)
Re: Can you bypass the logon procedure with Linux? (E J)
Re: /etc/hosts.deny & hosts.allow (Villy Kruse)
mdk 586 rpms running on a 486 CPU !?!? (Zsolt Zsoldos)
Netscape + javascript ("Thomas G.")
kernel 2.4.2 and dialup - seriously desperate now! ("Rloc")
Re: dual boot-startup disk-linux+win98 ("ColinR")
Re: Newbie - Keyboard, BackSpace key behaves like the Delete key in text editor.
Both write '~' when pressed in the command line. ("John Daragon")
Re: Can you bypass the logon procedure with Linux? (Mathieu Brabant)
Re: mdk 586 rpms running on a 486 CPU !?!? (Samuel Hocevar)
Re: login problem ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Can you bypass the logon procedure with Linux? (Martin Gregorie)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daryl Fonseca-Holt)
Subject: Re: RH 7.0 and Java JSDK1.2.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:01:36 -0600
It is at http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/index.html.
I haven't tried out their JDK so am not sure of the quality myself.
Wyatt
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 02:59:34 +0100, Stig S�rensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Try at the IBM linux webpage.
>
>/Stig
>
>"jaak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:byUr6.6762$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hi Everyone!
>>
>> The problem:
>> I do download from java.sun the jdk-1_2_2_007-linux-i386.tar.gz. Unpack
>> the software and don't run never .
>> Setting PATH environment without resut.
>>
>> Now see in the web site of java and found a new version which is
>compatible
>> with RH 7.0 but is imposible download the file.
>>
>> Question:
>> Where I do find a version of java 100% compatible with RH 7.0
>>
>> Atte
>>
>> JAAK
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From: Peadar O'Gaora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: /etc/hosts.deny & hosts.allow
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:21:36 +0000
Hi,
Can somebody tell me why I can't write to /etc/hosts.deny or
/etc/hosts.allow? As root I get readonly when I open them with vi and
can't force the write using :w! The permissions look right :
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 161 Jul 21 2000 hosts.allow
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 347 Jul 21 2000 hosts.deny
If I try to remove either one I get :
rm -f hosts.deny
rm: cannot unlink `hosts.deny': Operation not permitted
It also won't allow me to change the permissions, mv them.......
I can't find any links to it using symlinks. I'm stumped. Do I need to
stop all processes that use these files, then change them and then
restart the processes? If so what processes use them apart from the
nfs-related ones (rpc.statd and so on)?
All this on a RedHat 6.2 installation running on a remote machine which
I ssh into as a regular user and then su to root.
Thanks,
Peadar
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From: "Newbie from Win98" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Newbie - Keyboard, BackSpace key behaves like the Delete key in text editor.
Both write '~' when pressed in the command line.
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:16:21 -0000
Hi People,
Please can you help me? I am a newbie whose keyboard's Backspace key
behaves like the Delete key. Also both the Backspace and Delete key write a
'~' when pressed in the command line.
When used in a text editor they behave as the delete key. No text is
deleted before the cursor, only text that appears after the cursor gets
deleted.
System details:
RedHat 7.0 workstation install with lots of extras included so I can learn
how they work.
Dual boot with Win98.
Hardware:
PII 333 MHz, 128MB RAM, 4.3GB, 16bit ESS soundcard, Linksys LNE100TX NIC,
Voodoo2 3D card Creative Blaster, ISA Modem, DVD-ROM with Dxr3.
I have just installed RedHat 7.0 for the second time. The first time around
the keyboard behaved perfectly. I am fairly sure that for the second
install I chose the same setup for the keyboard - standard keyboard. I have
no idea why the Backspace and Del key write a '~' in the command line
interface. Also the Backspace behaves as the Del key when used in a text
editor.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Newbie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dr.greenthumb)
Subject: In need of assistance
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:21:37 GMT
Im in the processof Installing Calderas OpenLinux.
After installing all the packages intended for a standard
Installation, when its launching orchecking all services
when it gets to the KDE start it hangs then gives me this
Error Code.
INIT: id "gu" respawning too fast disable 5 minutes
It just repeats its self every 5 minutes.
Thanks
Dr,Greenthumb
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From: Aranwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dual boot-startup disk-linux+win98
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:30:06 -0000
Greetings.
I just installed RH 7 on my system.I placed it on 3 partitions as the
instructions read (root,boot,swap), and I have Win98 on another partition.
Before that I had installed RH on the same partition as Win98 and it took
a linux start up disk to boot. That disk included lilo which asked me what
OS i wanted to load although the only existing option was linux.(-That is,
if i wanted to boot Win98 i didn't place the disk in the drive.)
Now that i have them on different partitions it still takes the linux
start up disk to get this OS started.
In RH's installation manual there's a screen concidering lilo which i
never saw! I installed RH, no questions asked about lilo! This screen asks
whether to put lilo on MBR or not,what the default boot would be etc.
Now what am i supposed to do? It takes quite some time to boot linux from
the start up disk so i'd really rather not do that all the time.
I tried editing lilo.conf but nothing happens.
Thank you in advance for your concern.
-Lady Aranwen
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can you bypass the logon procedure with Linux?
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:35:32 GMT
Sound like you want strip down to embedded linux. Check out
www.rtlinux.org.
You might want to see how linux PDAs also get rid of logon procedure. See
http://www.handhelds.org/platforms.html
Clark Kent wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:14:55 +0100, "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't want to have to log on because I don't even want to have a
> keyboard and monitor on the system.
>
> At the current time I have a Jukebox program which runs on Win98. Once
> I had the system all set up with 10,000 mp3 files loaded on it, I
> removed the keyboard and monitor and tucked the computer away beneath
> a cabinet out of sight. The only thing visible is a small numeric
> keypad which plugs into a serial port. When I want to listen to music,
> I just flip a wall switch and wait until I hear the "ready" sound.
> When I hear it, I key in my selections on the numeric keypad. It works
> exactly like the old Seeburg Jukebox that it replaced. When I am thru
> listening to music, I select *** on the keypad and wait for a few
> seconds while Win98 shuts down. Then I flip off the wall switch until
> the next time.
>
> When I wrote my Jukebox program, I wanted to use Linux, but I could
> not figure out how to bypass the log-on procedure, so I went with
> Win98.
>
> I have a couple of other uses in mind such as:
>
> 1. A burglar alarm system
> 2. A WebCam System that could be controlled over the internet
> by my fiancee who lives on the other side of the
> AtlanticOcean.
>
> I would love to use Linux, but if I cannot completely remove the
> keyboard and monitor then I will just have to stay with Win98.
>
> That is why I need to bypass the logon procedure if I am going to use
> Linux.
>
> Thanks for the input,
>
> Clark
>
> ====
>
> >> I have an old 486 computer that I would like to load Linux on to just
> >> for the learning experience.
> >>
> >> However I don't want to have to log onto my own computer with a
> >> username and password.
> >
> >It's a multi-user OS, you must have a username.
> >Why is it such a problem to log in?
> >Log in once, and never logout would be just as good a solution.
> >
> >If you don't want this, install DOS. ;-p
> >
> >> I want to just turn on the machine and have it
> >> boot up and run. I would prefer not to even use a GUI, but to run it
> >> from a command-line text-mode.
> >
> >No problem.
> >
> >> Is it even possible to bypass the log-on procedure with Linux? If so,
> >> which distro would be best to try?
> >
> >They're all equal with respect to this I suppose.
> >A program is run through your initscripts (getty) that forces
> >a login. Change it in inittab to run "su - username" instead.
> >
> >There are several other/better options too.
> >
> >Eric
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: /etc/hosts.deny & hosts.allow
Date: 15 Mar 2001 17:01:46 GMT
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:21:36 +0000, Peadar O'Gaora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Can somebody tell me why I can't write to /etc/hosts.deny or
>/etc/hosts.allow? As root I get readonly when I open them with vi and
>can't force the write using :w! The permissions look right :
>
>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 161 Jul 21 2000 hosts.allow
>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 347 Jul 21 2000 hosts.deny
>
Try lsattr and get inspired.
Villy
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From: Zsolt Zsoldos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mdk 586 rpms running on a 486 CPU !?!?
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:05:59 GMT
I just installed Mandrake 7.2 with all its "pentium optimized" *.586.* rpm
packages on a 486 computer and it seems to be running OK.
So what does it mean exactly if a package is called name-x.x.x-xmdk.i586.rpm ?
I thought it meant, that it was compiled with pentium instruction set and thus
not supposed to work on lesser CPUs (e.g. 386 and 486). But it DOES work
and I do not even notice any problems...
I just dont understand this.
So all this 'pentium optimized' code in Mandrake is just pure hype ???
--
Zsolt.
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From: "Thomas G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape + javascript
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:07:46 +0100
Hi,
I have a SuSe 7.1 system and hit the web with netscape.
But I discovered that the netscape 6 that was included in the package
doesn't support Java-Script. Am I wrong in this or should I download a
plugin from netscape's site?
Thomas
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From: "Rloc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel 2.4.2 and dialup - seriously desperate now!
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:26:18 +0200
I recently upgraded from kernel 2.2.14-15mdk to kernel 2.4.2.
I am running mandrake version 7.0 (air)
I retained the previous kernel to revert to in case there were problems.
Since the upgrade I can no longer access my ISP at all.
Using kernel 2.4.2:
1. using /sbin/ifup ppp0 results in a timeout and a redial. This recurs
endlessly.
2. dialling from within linuxconf results in a message "/sbin/ifup is taking
too long to respond. Please kill task"
3. dialling from kppp gives the following message:
pppd 2.4.0 started by root uid 0
couldn't set tty to ppp dsicipline, invalid argument
exit
Using kernel 2.2.14-15mdk:
1 and 2 above do not work either and return the same results
3 above (kppp) works every time and my ISP responds without error.
I am using pppd 2.4.0 and kppp 1.6.24 with both kernels btw and all
configuration data for these programs is identical across both kernel
versions.
I have checked the 2.4.2 kernel docs and I have the following versions
need --------------have
gnu C 2.91.66------------2.95.2
gnu make 3.77----------------3.77
binutils 2.9.1.0.25----------2.9.5
utils-linux 2.10.o--------------2.10.b
modutils 2.4.2----------------2.4.2
e2fsprogs 1.19-----------------1.19
reiserfsprogs 3.x.0b---------------none
pcmcia-cs 3.1.21---------------none
pppd 2.4.0----------------2.4.0
isdn4k-utils 3.1pre1-------------3.1beta1
kppp ??????--------------1.6.24
Is it likely that I did something wrong in the compile or is there some more
basic reason for this problem?
Thanks for your help
Rob
Please help since I have been at this for several days and I am losing hope
of ever getting it to work.
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Reply-To: "ColinR" <colinr@DON'TSPAMMEntlworld.com>
From: "ColinR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual boot-startup disk-linux+win98
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:22:15 -0000
When I installed Mandrake the other day it asked me.
I have 2 hard disks. The first is a diddy 1Gigger with Windows 98SE on it
that was installed from day one.
The second is chopped into three chunks 6Gig FAT32, 2.6 Gig Linux Ext2.
900meg Linux Swap. It was originally 100%FAT32, but I used PartitionMagic
to reorganise and format the Linux Partitions. I then put the CD ROM in and
rebooted. Mandrake asked me if I wanted to put Lilo in the MBR.
I thought the key would be to have Windows 98 installed first and on the
first drive, as Microsoft only acknowledge the existence of their own
operating systems.
"Aranwen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Greetings.
> I just installed RH 7 on my system.I placed it on 3 partitions as the
> instructions read (root,boot,swap), and I have Win98 on another partition.
> Before that I had installed RH on the same partition as Win98 and it took
> a linux start up disk to boot. That disk included lilo which asked me what
> OS i wanted to load although the only existing option was linux.(-That is,
> if i wanted to boot Win98 i didn't place the disk in the drive.)
> Now that i have them on different partitions it still takes the linux
> start up disk to get this OS started.
> In RH's installation manual there's a screen concidering lilo which i
> never saw! I installed RH, no questions asked about lilo! This screen asks
> whether to put lilo on MBR or not,what the default boot would be etc.
> Now what am i supposed to do? It takes quite some time to boot linux from
> the start up disk so i'd really rather not do that all the time.
> I tried editing lilo.conf but nothing happens.
> Thank you in advance for your concern.
>
> -Lady Aranwen
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: "John Daragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Newbie - Keyboard, BackSpace key behaves like the Delete key in text
editor. Both write '~' when pressed in the command line.
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:58:06 -0000
Newbie from Win98 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:98qpqe$9sk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi People,
>
> Please can you help me? I am a newbie whose keyboard's Backspace key
> behaves like the Delete key. Also both the Backspace and Delete key write
a
> '~' when pressed in the command line.
>
> When used in a text editor they behave as the delete key. No text is
> deleted before the cursor, only text that appears after the cursor gets
> deleted.
>
> System details:
> RedHat 7.0 workstation install with lots of extras included so I can learn
> how they work.
> Dual boot with Win98.
>
> Hardware:
> PII 333 MHz, 128MB RAM, 4.3GB, 16bit ESS soundcard, Linksys LNE100TX NIC,
> Voodoo2 3D card Creative Blaster, ISA Modem, DVD-ROM with Dxr3.
>
> I have just installed RedHat 7.0 for the second time. The first time
around
> the keyboard behaved perfectly. I am fairly sure that for the second
> install I chose the same setup for the keyboard - standard keyboard. I
have
> no idea why the Backspace and Del key write a '~' in the command line
> interface. Also the Backspace behaves as the Del key when used in a text
> editor.
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>
> Newbie.
>
>
Whilst I'm not sure what your underlying problem is, the tilde is just a
displayable byte from the escaps string produced by thees keys (typicaly
something like <esc>[3~ if I remember correctly.
As a quick fix, type
stty ek
at the command line and luxuriate in everything working OK while you
investigate how you broke it in the first place !
jd
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From: Mathieu Brabant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can you bypass the logon procedure with Linux?
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:30:05 -0000
You might want to boot into single user mode, runlevel 1. You will be
root without having to type in any username/password.
To manually boot into this mode, if you are using LILO, type "linux
single" at the LILO boot prompt (replace linux with your kernel label).
To have your system boot into this mode by default, change your default
runlevel: edit the /etc/inittab file and change the line that says
"id:3:initdefault:" to "id:1:initdefault:". (Original default runlevel
might not be 3)
This should work with most distributions.
Have fun!
M@
Clark Kent wrote:
>
>
> I have an old 486 computer that I would like to load Linux on to just
> for the learning experience.
>
> However I don't want to have to log onto my own computer with a
> username and password. I want to just turn on the machine and have it
> boot up and run. I would prefer not to even use a GUI, but to run it
> from a command-line text-mode.
>
> Is it even possible to bypass the log-on procedure with Linux? If so,
> which distro would be best to try?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clark
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Samuel Hocevar)
Subject: Re: mdk 586 rpms running on a 486 CPU !?!?
Date: 15 Mar 2001 17:31:34 GMT
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:05:59 GMT,
Zsolt Zsoldos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So what does it mean exactly if a package is called
> name-x.x.x-xmdk.i586.rpm ?
It probably means they have been compiled with "-mcpu=i586". This
means that instructions are scheduled so they behave a lot better under
an i586 processor, but no 586-specific code is compiled in.
This is different from the "-march=i586" gcc option, which implies
the former, but also generates 586-specific code.
Sam.
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for DVDs in Linux screw the MPAA and ; do dig $DVDs.z.zoy.org ; done | \
perl -ne 's/\.//g; print pack("H224",$1) if(/^x([^z]*)/)' | gunzip
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: login problem
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:35:59 +0100
Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My problem is that lately (possibly after a crash, but not sure) I can only
> login through xdm (kdm) but if I try trough the console I just get login
> failures. Why? I must say also that in a X-terminal if I issue command
> login it says "Unable to determine your tty name". In Konsole if I do "who
> am i" I get nothing. I have shadow passwords and I am running 2.4.1 kernel
> with glibc2.1.2.
strace the login.
Sounds like bits of /var are missing, also possibly bits of /dev.
Remake such tty's as you can with /dev/MAKEDEV, and check for
/var/adm/wtmp and /var/run/utmp (or wherever they have got to
nowadays).
Or some pam dirs may be hosed.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie)
Subject: Re: Can you bypass the logon procedure with Linux?
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:02:02 GMT
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:36:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark Kent)
wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:14:55 +0100, "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I don't want to have to log on because I don't even want to have a
>keyboard and monitor on the system.
>
Unlike windoze you should never need to boot this box; a keyboard &
monitor are needed during configuration, etc but then they can just be
unplugged. In fact you're best to leave it running since by default
there are scripts that run at 0400 each morning to swap logs, etc and
generally tidy up the system. If you turn it off when not listening to
music you'll end up doing all this stuff manually.
As you're thinking of an internet connection, IMHO it would be
extremely unwise to disable the login system; if you do that and don't
install a firewall you'll get hacked.
If I was trying to do what you want I'd:
- leave the login system alone
- add a NIC and ethernet so you can access Linux from your
windoze PC for programmimng, maintenance, etc.
- define a serial port as non-login and plug your keypad onto it
- arrange that your music playing program is started at boot time
and watches the assigned serial port for music requests
I think that meets your current requirements and will (hopefully) give
you ideas for the webcam, alarm system, etc.
--
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@logica | Logica Ltd
com | +44 020 76379111
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