Linux-Setup Digest #853, Volume #20 Sun, 18 Mar 01 13:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: changing fstab ("Denis")
Re: Mailshot software ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Cannot run LILO (Andy)
Re: prevent multiple logins - how? (DVHandorf)
Intellimouse Trackball ("Brandon K")
Re: Intellimouse Trackball ("Brandon K")
Re: Mailshot software (Edwin Johnson)
Re: Goin Shoppin (Peter Gross)
Re: Mailshot software (John Beardmore)
SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro ("George")
ALSA utils compile help... ("Kaushik Raghavan")
Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro (Michael Heiming)
Re: Can not reboot on Compaq Deskpro 4000 ("Buzz Lightyear")
Re: Mailshot software (Michael Heiming)
Re: red hat + win98 ("Christian Winkler")
Re: Dual booting ("Andy Clayton")
Re: ALSA utils compile help... (E J)
Re: Lilo Floppy Question (E J)
Re: Lilo Floppy Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Denis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: changing fstab
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:09:29 GMT
Right! I works.
And, yes, I was mistakingly using the -R switch to do the cp, thinking it
was required to get all the subdirectories. I see now that there must be
some recursive link somewhere in /usr and I was probably copying the copy.
Tks a million. I'm getting better at it. At least at installing :-)))
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message news:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Denis wrote:
> >> Now I have partitioned hdb to have another 150 megs available for
Slackware.
> >> Only I tried to copy /usr to hdb and I ran out of space. How can this
be?
>
> Presumably he copied the copy also.
>
> Either that or the source fs was compressed.
>
> >> The second partition has the same size and /usr exists with all the
rest on
> >> hda!
> >> (type ext2, native Linux)
>
> >> Next, I'll want to change fstab.conf to account for the new location of
the
> >> directory on hbd2, in fact. Do I copy /usr before or after changing
fstab?
>
> Nobody cares, since it isn't in /usr itself.
>
> > First you mount the second disk to /mnt, then you copy the content of
> > /usr to /mnt umount the second hd, now you move (mv) /usr to /usr-old.
> > Create /usr and mount the second hd to /usr. Now you can change fstab,
that
> > your second disk will be mount proper in case of reboot. Case
>
> > Don't forget to use the -p switch cp has...
>
> Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mailshot software
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:51:33 +0100
John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm chair of a voluntary group with a mailing list of 280 people.
> At the moment we spend a lot of our members money posting paper to them,
> and we'd like to move towards 'paperless' operation by sending
> electronic messages to those of members that have email addresses.
> Is there any Linux software out there that can take an ASCII message to
> send in one file, and a list of email addresses in another, and send out
> the mailshot as a single message which has the recipient addresses in
> the bcc field ?
> All suggestions welcome !
mail -s"todays mailshot" `tr '\n' ',' < addr_list` < newsletter
Peter
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From: Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot run LILO
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:45:41 +0000
Po wrote:
> I have 6G hard disk and divide to 2 of 3G partition.
> The primary partition had installed Chinese Windows98 SE edition and Ext.
> partition is non-DOS partition.
> After the installation of TurboLinux had completed and restart, it show "non
> bootable disk".
> I don't konw why the LILO seem not work properly.
> Anybody can teach me ?
>
> Thank you very much !
>
> Po
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, I'm not a linux expert, but this may help. Chances are the "non bootable
disk" is when youre trying to start windows. If thats the case boot with a dos
disk and run fdisk and show partition information. You may find the active
partition is set for non-dos, change it to the windows c: partition. You may
need to run lilo again from linux. Hope that helps.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DVHandorf)
Date: 18 Mar 2001 15:48:38 GMT
Subject: Re: prevent multiple logins - how?
If you want to limit logins, try looking @ the documentation for PAM. I have
it on my tredhat system, however I'm not sure if you have it. Check for it byu
searching through the documentation directories.
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From: "Brandon K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Intellimouse Trackball
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:57:28 GMT
I'm using LM 7.2 and when I ran Drak X to install, my mouse worked fine,
but
when I'm actually in Linux, I can move my pointer or click anything. I'm
using the Microsoft IntelliMouse Trackball. It made no difference whether
I
connected it via USB or PS/2. Any suggestions? Or perhaps someone can
tell
my how to access the items in DrakeConf with the keyboard? Amy help is
appreciated.
-Brandon
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From: "Brandon K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intellimouse Trackball
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:59:41 GMT
That was SUPPOSED to be a CAN'T move the pointer or click anything...
-Brandon
Brandon K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:IV4t6.326$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm using LM 7.2 and when I ran Drak X to install, my mouse worked fine,
> but
> when I'm actually in Linux, I can move my pointer or click anything. I'm
> using the Microsoft IntelliMouse Trackball. It made no difference
whether
> I
> connected it via USB or PS/2. Any suggestions? Or perhaps someone can
> tell
> my how to access the items in DrakeConf with the keyboard? Amy help is
> appreciated.
> -Brandon
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson)
Subject: Re: Mailshot software
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Mar 2001 16:11:54 GMT
You could simply write a perl script to take an address from a list, add the
message, and then send it using sendmail. I have such a script on our
company web server and we routinely mail out the same message to our email
list, an ASCII file containing name and email address, to around 1400
people. One beauty of this is that it puts only the recipient's name in the
To: field, so there isn't the string of other names anywhere in the email.
I will be glad to send you the script, if you email me (address below in
signature block).
...Edwin
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:23:03 +0000, John Beardmore
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm chair of a voluntary group with a mailing list of 280 people.
>
>At the moment we spend a lot of our members money posting paper to them,
>and we'd like to move towards 'paperless' operation by sending
>electronic messages to those of members that have email addresses.
>
>Is there any Linux software out there that can take an ASCII message to
>send in one file, and a list of email addresses in another, and send out
>the mailshot as a single message which has the recipient addresses in
>the bcc field ?
>
>All suggestions welcome !
>
>
>Cheers, J/.
>--
>John Beardmore
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Gross)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Goin Shoppin
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:14:21 GMT
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:18:08 GMT, olliecat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm going to finally break down and build a new box. I've never done this
>before but I think it will be a good learning experience. What I'm not so sure
>of is what components will be best suited to run Linux so I wanted to open it up
>to the Linux community for recommendations. I'm thinking this might be a common
>question so pointers to descriptive docs would be much appreciated as well as
>your own personal advice.
>
>I would like to get a motherboard/processor that will allow me some growing
>room. I don't want something that will become technically obsolete in two
>years. I heard that AMD might be a good choice here, processor wise anyway.
>Not so sure about the motherboard. I have IDE drives now and haven't had a
>problem but have been informed that for drives and other peripherals SCSI is the
>way to go, which seems reasonable.
>
>I want a nice video card (that plays nice with XFree86) and a nice sound card.
>I like to play games. I really like the space savings of the newer flat screen
>monitors but understand they might not have as good resolution as the standard
>CRT. I want a nice cd burner, external would be preferable, an internal DVD/CD
>player, as well as a floppy drive. Oodles of (cheap but good) memory is
>important, and nice fast hard drive(s) with as much room as possible. I would
>also like an external tape drive to perform backups on. I want to try and do
>all of this for under $2000. The machine, when complete, will be used as a
>developer workstation.
>
>Thanks for any advice.
There is an excellent article on building yourself a PC on Tom's
Hardware:
http://www4.tomshardware.com/howto/01q1/010115/index.html
Just be sure the video card you buy works with Linux. This article
ought to get you started. Another piece of advice: get a full tower
case (I went with SuperMicro -- the accessability is great).
Over and out,
--peter
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mailshot software
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:12:08 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm chair of a voluntary group with a mailing list of 280 people.
>
>> At the moment we spend a lot of our members money posting paper to them,
>> and we'd like to move towards 'paperless' operation by sending
>> electronic messages to those of members that have email addresses.
>
>> Is there any Linux software out there that can take an ASCII message to
>> send in one file, and a list of email addresses in another, and send out
>> the mailshot as a single message which has the recipient addresses in
>> the bcc field ?
>
>> All suggestions welcome !
>
>mail -s"todays mailshot" `tr '\n' ',' < addr_list` < newsletter
Looks perfect. Does it require sendmail to be running locally or can it
deal with my ISPs mail servers directly ? Will it send individual
messages or a single message that's split 'in flight' according to the
bcc list ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:22:21 GMT
I just installed SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro. I had no install problems and it seems
to work very well. Before installing it I removed my old hard disk which
has Windows ME on it. (was thinking of putting it into another box) and
installed Linux to a new 10 gig disk. Well, now I've decided I'd like to put
the old Windows disk back in. Is there a way I could do this and it would
allow me to select which disk I want to boot from?
Thanks,
George
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From: "Kaushik Raghavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: ALSA utils compile help...
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:39:07 GMT
While running "./configure" before compiling ALSA utils package, I get an
error saying that "lex" was not found. How do I fix this?
regards
Kaushik
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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:46:23 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro
George wrote:
>
> I just installed SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro. I had no install problems and it seems
> to work very well. Before installing it I removed my old hard disk which
> has Windows ME on it. (was thinking of putting it into another box) and
> installed Linux to a new 10 gig disk. Well, now I've decided I'd like to put
> the old Windows disk back in. Is there a way I could do this and it would
> allow me to select which disk I want to boot from?
Sure, LILO would be the preferred way to setup dual booting on your
box, check
the book that came with your distro, it explains the setup, if you
don't have
it handy, it's on the first CD.
Checking man lilo and man lilo.conf will be helpful.
Searching with your favorite search engine will show you lots of docs
on this topic,
some of them are on your box/distro.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: "Buzz Lightyear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can not reboot on Compaq Deskpro 4000
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:40:19 GMT
You will have to go into the BIOS and change the shutdown option
"paulk93" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dear linux experts,
> I have installed RedHat Linux 7.0 on my Compaq Deskpro 4000 and I am
having
> trouble rebooting the system with "reboot" command.
>
> When I try to reboot, it shuts down (killing all the processes), but then,
> it goes into black screen and does not restart the system. Only way to
> restart the system is to push the power button to power down and restart.
>
> I also had Windows NT 4.0 installed before on the same machine and it
> rebooted (Shutdown and Restart) fine without any problems. It does appear
> to be Linux issue (possible related to Compaqs).
>
> Has anyone had this problem on Compaq?
> I have talked to Compaq tech support without success.
> Can someone help?
> Thank you
>
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:01:11 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mailshot software
John Beardmore wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I'm chair of a voluntary group with a mailing list of 280 people.
> >
> >> At the moment we spend a lot of our members money posting paper to them,
> >> and we'd like to move towards 'paperless' operation by sending
> >> electronic messages to those of members that have email addresses.
> >
> >> Is there any Linux software out there that can take an ASCII message to
> >> send in one file, and a list of email addresses in another, and send out
> >> the mailshot as a single message which has the recipient addresses in
> >> the bcc field ?
> >
> >> All suggestions welcome !
> >
> >mail -s"todays mailshot" `tr '\n' ',' < addr_list` < newsletter
>
> Looks perfect. Does it require sendmail to be running locally or can it
> deal with my ISPs mail servers directly ? Will it send individual
> messages or a single message that's split 'in flight' according to the
> bcc list ?
Why don't you just try it out, with some addresses you get, that no
one gets
upset, case something is not working as expected?
This is always the preferred method to learn how something works.
Another way would be to setup some kind of mailing list sw, like ie.
majordomo.
Michael Heiming
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From: "Christian Winkler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: red hat + win98
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:51:52 +0100
Eric en Jolanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
lq8s6.26393$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> This an english newsgroup, so don't post in german please.
>
> <translation>
> > Is there a guide for installing RH linux and windows simultaneously?
> > I have already tried many times, and always get the same error.
> <end translation>
>
> > gibt es einen guide mit dem man red hat und win 98 gleichzeitig
> installieren
> > kann?
>
> Gleichzeitig installieren?
> Nein installiere zuerst windows, danach linux ;-)
>
> > ich habe es schon mehrmals versucht und jedesmal kommt die gleiche
> > fehlermeldung.
>
> Welche fehler?
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> chrisi
linux wrote that i have to install a network, but i havn't one
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From: "Andy Clayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual booting
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:15:50 -0000
I agree with using LOADLIN - I like to keep clear of the MBR if I can and
besides I've had lots of problems with LILO and my UDMA drives. I have used
the config.sys method successfully under Win98 SE, however, as stated
earlier in this thread this WILL NOT WORK under WinME :-( (no config.sys
file)
Does anyone have an alternative which allows use of LOADLIN or something
similar? So not LILO or GRUB or other MBR bashers. I'm having to boot off a
floppy disc at present which is might inconvenient!
Andy Clayton
Christchurch, UK
"The_saint" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > I recommend LOADLIN, I know that a lot of people will recommend LILO (
> > hi eric :-))...
> > But I use loadlin for booting linux mainly because a lot (all) of M$ OS
> > installation will stomp on the MBR of the HD leaving you with a hard
> > time booting either linux or M$.
> >
> I stand with you in this point. Also because I'm planning to get the linux
> into a portable HD. Then I'll be able to us it at home like when I'm using
> it on my laptop.
> Actually I've the problem that linux found that HD as hde, but I couldn't
> yet be able to mount it, even autofs deamon it's up and mount the other
> partition on hda.
>
> PS I had tried, but winME doesn't allow any config.sys menu. It's going
> straight away into GUI.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ALSA utils compile help...
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:20:14 GMT
Just general configure advice.
$ cat README | more #Look at the README file
$ ./configure --help # look at the options for configure
$ cat configure.log | more # see what configure is complaining about
Kaushik Raghavan wrote:
> While running "./configure" before compiling ALSA utils package, I get an
> error saying that "lex" was not found. How do I fix this?
>
> regards
> Kaushik
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo Floppy Question
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:40:42 GMT
# vi /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf
boot=/dev/fd0
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
prompt
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22 #change this to where your kernel is on the hard
disk. Mine is on /boot
label=linux
root=/dev/hda4
initrd=/boot/initrd.img # change this to where your initrd image is on
the hard disk. Mine is on /boot
# lilo -C /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf # VERY IMPORTANT!!! This update lilo on
the boot floppy
Carl Wick wrote:
> Thanks...
>
> That is basically what my lilo.conf looks like on the floppy. But it
> does not load the kernel off of the hard disk...it loads the kernel,
> vmlinuz-2.2.16-22 off of the floppy....
>
But you did not run lilo on floppy. If you did, you would find it would
complain it could not find kernel and initrd image because it was looking on
the harddisk. That is what I found out playing with it many years ago.
>
> I am trying to have lilo running on the floppy but load the kernel off
> of the hard disk.../dev/hda2
>
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:26:34 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >$ man lilo.conf # RTFM on lilo.conf also :)
> >$ # this is what my lilo.conf for my floppy looks like. Yours would be
> >different from mine. Adjust your lilo.conf
> >$ # accordingly
> >$ cat /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf
> >
> >boot=/dev/fd0
> >timeout=100
> >message=/boot/message
> >prompt
> >image=/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
> > label=linux
> > root=/dev/hda4
> > initrd=/initrd.img
> >
> >Carl Wick wrote:
> >
> >> The issue is..I'm not sure what the lilo.conf should look like...
> >>
> >> thanks for the help....welll.....thanks for the feedback.
> >>
> >> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:18:15 GMT, E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >$ man lilo # RTFM on lilo :)
> >> >
> >> >This is the option you want
> >> > -C config-file
> >> > lilo reads its instructions about what files to map from
> >> >its config
> >> > file, by default /etc/lilo.conf. This option can be used
> >> >to specify
> >> > a non-default config file.
> >> >
> >> ># mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy # mount that linux boot floppy
> >> ># lilo -C /mnt/floppy/etc/lilo.conf # update lilo on the boot floppy
> >> ># umount /mnt/floppy # unmount that linux boot floppy
> >> >
> >> >Carl Wick wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Signature didn't work on this post...please remove the numbers to
> >> >> email me directly...
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 21:18:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Wick)
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I run mkbootdisk and it creates a floopy boot disk using Lilo and it
> >> >> >works fine. I would like to be able boot Lilo off the floppy, but
> >> >> >have the kernel load off of the hard disk instead of the floppy. I
> >> >> >had done it that way several years ago with a Slackware
> >> >> >distribution...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Can someone help? I am pretty sure it is doable, but am struggling
> >> >> >with Lilo. I read the mini HOWTO on Lilo but still struggling.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks in advance...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Remove the numbers in the email address...
> >> >>
> >> >> Carl
> >> >
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lilo Floppy Question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 18:02:06 +0000
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:29:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Wick) wrote:
>Can I direct it to read the kernel off of my root instead of off the
>floppy?
The answer is "Yes". That's how I do it.
# /etc/lilo.conf
boot=/dev/fd0
prompt
timeout=100
image=/boot/vmlinuz #kernel file on HD
label = linux
root = /dev/hd?? #root device
read-only
other= #whatever else you want to boot
Chris Ward.
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