Linux-Setup Digest #856, Volume #20 Sun, 18 Mar 01 19:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux router (Mike)
Re: Tulip.o and Linksys NetworkEverywhere NIC. (Mike)
Re: CD-ROM and harddisk fighting over DMA (Wouter Verhelst)
Re: isapnp conflicts w/motherboard sound device (Wouter Verhelst)
Re: Installing Linux on a old 486 (Wouter Verhelst)
Re: Linux sound fleble. (Jay & Shell)
Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro (George Schwab)
Re: Linux router (Manfred Bartz)
Re: Installing RedHat 7.0 via FTP ("TheMartian")
Re: Linux router (Eugenio Mastroviti)
Re: Internet connection sharing problems ("LB Drake")
Re: Installing Linux on a old 486 (Stanislaw Flatto)
sound problems - Debian with soundblaster awe64 pnp (Michael Young)
Re: Boot magic probs (olgnuby)
Re: Installing Linux on a old 486 (Nils Holland)
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From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux router
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:12:01 -0600
I've heard of some funkiness with using 2 NICs of the same model, so if weird
things happen, stick in a different type. Otherwise, assume everything will work
and proceed as planned.
ellen migdal wrote:
> To Group:
>
> I am about to set up an old PC as a router - using either linux or freseco.
> My problem is prior to this - I need 2 NIC cards - one coming in from ISP,
> one going out to hub. I put in 2 Linksys cards fine - but - how do tell
> which card is which as far as the IRQ addresses are concerned. The router
> software needs to know, and I need to know,the IRQ of the "top" NIC card and
> the IRQ of the "bottom" card.
>
> Also, the Linsys people strongly suggested that I NOT put 2 NIC cards, of
> their ,or other makes, into the same chassis. Is there anything to this??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
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From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tulip.o and Linksys NetworkEverywhere NIC.
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 16:15:22 -0600
OR:
Use the old tulip driver instead - I think it's called oldtulip.o. Depends on
which Linksys card you are using.
John Zbesko wrote:
> David wrote:
> >
> > Need help on this bad. Works great in Windows. Cannot seem to get either the
> > tulip.o driver inserted or,..... Using Mandrake 7.2, comes with the tulip
> > driver that Linksys says works with this card.
> >
>
> Forget the tulip driver on the Mandrake 7.2- it doesn't work. I had to
> download the latest version from http://www.scyld.com/network/tulip.html
> and replace the tulip source from Mandrake. (Then recompile module and
> then modprobe tulip)
> Incidently, the 2.4.2 kernel contains a working tulip which is an
> alternative.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wouter Verhelst)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM and harddisk fighting over DMA
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:16:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt) writes:
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>(if this is not the right place to ask, please redirect)
>>
>>I've got a slight problem here:
>>
>>When both my CD-ROM and my harddisk are using DMA, I sometimes get
>>errors over my console:
>>
>>hda: timeout waiting for DMA
>>ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func only: 14
>>hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
>
> Doctor it hurts when I do that. So don't do that.
>
> I could be wrong, but I don't think you are supposed to use dma for cdrom
> (since it is much slower than a hard drive).
Might be, but it does not seem to matter. When I switch DMA off at the
CDROM, but leave it on at the harddisk, it still dumps that error on
my console (Just tried it).
AFAICT, the only remedies seem to be not touching the cdrom, or
switching dma off for the harddisk.
> If you can, it would be
> better to have it as master on the second ide channel (ide1) by itself
> instead of slave on the first (ide0). In other words wire the cdrom as
> hdc instead of hdb.
I know it looks weird, but...
My harddisk is hda (actually /dev/ide/blahblahblah, you know ;-), and
my CD-ROM is hdc. So I already did that ;-)
Your suggestion was my first idea as well. But I didn't solve it when
I put them on different controllers.
I have no hdb or hdd, so they can't be causing troubles either. I have
thought, though, that it might be because my harddisk is newer than
the controller, so that the harddisk wants to do things the controller
has never heard about. I don't know for sure though, because I'm not
that familiar with harddisk-controllers...
--
wouter dot verhelst at advalvas in belgium
Real men don't take backups.
They put their source on a public FTP-server and let the world mirror it.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wouter Verhelst)
Subject: Re: isapnp conflicts w/motherboard sound device
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:16:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Zbesko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm going nuts! My daughter has a clone Cyrix PC with an onboard
> soundcard, CMI8330/C3D (identified w/sndconfig.) I can't seem to
> straighten out some resource conflict - the best I've accomplished is
> the sound sample in sndconfig starts but cuts out. I'm working with
> kernel 2.4.2. This PC has a serial mouse.
>
> How do I determine what's conflicting? Can anyone suggest a procedure
> for debugging? I seem to be thrashing around trying one thing after
> another hoping that something works. I've messed with different modules,
> different settings in sndconfig, HardDrake (Mandrake 7.2), etc. I've
> waded through the HOWTO's and newsgroups.
>
> Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated!
If there is a resource conflict, you should be able to see that in
/proc/ioports, /proc/interrupts, or /proc/dma -- or whatever resource
I don't know of, but I'm sure it'll have a file in /proc ;-)
--
wouter dot verhelst at advalvas in belgium
Real men don't take backups.
They put their source on a public FTP-server and let the world mirror it.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wouter Verhelst)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on a old 486
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:16:11 GMT
In article <Kc9t6.477$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Ulf Bengtner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've tried to install Linux on a couple of old 486:s but have not succeded.
> The installation bombs with signal 11.
> I have tried with Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.1 with almost the same result,
> and I have tried two different 486:s without success.
>
> One is a Dell 486 66MHz, 16Mb RAM and 380Mbyte disk. The other is a noname
> computer with 486/66, 20Mbyte RAM and 380Mbyte disk.
>
> I use "text expert" mode and try do a miminal installation. I have
> configured a 40Mbyte swap partition. Everything seems to be OK until the
> install program starts to format the partitions. I don't know if I'm through
> the formatting or not when the install program crashes with signal 11. The
> same happens with Redhat as well as with Mandrake.
> Any ideas?
Recent versions of Mandrake and RedHat are optimized for Pentium
processors, are you aware of that?
(I'm not saying it's impossible to do, but it'll probably require some
extra steps. Although I never installed a recent RedHat or Mandrake...)
--
wouter dot verhelst at advalvas in belgium
Real men don't take backups.
They put their source on a public FTP-server and let the world mirror it.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: Jay & Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux sound fleble.
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:24:09 GMT
Yeah, open the audio mixer and slide the PCM sliders up!
:)
The_saint wrote:
>
> Hi Ng,
> I've used sndconfig for my Yamaha OPL3, but compared with M$ counterpart
> of my laptop PC, Linux seems to be less louder, even I set the volume to
> the maximum.
> Is there any explanation?
--
Registered Linux user #192969
MS-Windows - A Colorful Clown Suit For Dos !
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From: George Schwab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:25:33 GMT
Michael Heiming wrote:
>
> George wrote:
> >
> > I just installed SuSE Linux 7.1 Pro. I had no install problems and it seems
> > to work very well. Before installing it I removed my old hard disk which
> > has Windows ME on it. (was thinking of putting it into another box) and
> > installed Linux to a new 10 gig disk. Well, now I've decided I'd like to put
> > the old Windows disk back in. Is there a way I could do this and it would
> > allow me to select which disk I want to boot from?
>
> Sure, LILO would be the preferred way to setup dual booting on your
> box, check
> the book that came with your distro, it explains the setup, if you
> don't have
> it handy, it's on the first CD.
>
> Checking man lilo and man lilo.conf will be helpful.
> Searching with your favorite search engine will show you lots of docs
> on this topic,
> some of them are on your box/distro.
>
> Good luck
>
> Michael Heiming
Thanks for the response, Got it going fine.
I'll be doing LOTS of reading for a while...hope I'm able to learn
enough to one day trash ALL of the Microsoft stuff.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux router
From: Manfred Bartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:43:57 GMT
"ellen migdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am about to set up an old PC as a router - using either linux or
> freseco. My problem is prior to this - I need 2 NIC cards - one
> coming in from ISP, one going out to hub. I put in 2 Linksys cards
> fine - but - how do tell which card is which as far as the IRQ
> addresses are concerned. The router software needs to know, and I
> need to know,the IRQ of the "top" NIC card and the IRQ of the
> "bottom" card.
If the NICs are PCI than you normally don't need to worry about
the IRQs. In any case, the startup messages would tell you.
dmesg
The only reason why you might need to know which one is which, is
to assign the correct IP address to each. I found it much easier
to just swap cables if necessary but you could figure it out from
each NIC's MAC address.
> Also, the Linsys people strongly suggested that I NOT put 2 NIC
> cards, of their ,or other makes, into the same chassis. Is there
> anything to this??
They obviously don't know what they are talking about. You can have
as many NICs as you have slots and IRQs. With more than one NIC you
need to tell Linux to look for them. In the global section of your
/etc/lilo.conf, add something like this:
append = "ether=eth0 ether=eth1 ether=eth2 ether=eth3"
run lilo and reboot. They should all show up in the logs as well
as in:
cat /proc/interrupts
cat /proc/ioports
--
Manfred
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ipchainsLogAnalyzer, NetCalc, whois at: <http://logi.cc/linux/>
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From: "TheMartian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing RedHat 7.0 via FTP
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:48:33 GMT
Here's a very long shot for you.
do not copy the CD to the HDD, just link to it. Which is how I usually do
things.
Another thing, have you checked the link with a sniffer?
David
Sydney, Australia.
In article <992ed5$kaa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chau Chee Yang"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't try NFS yet. Will try for it but I think I will face the same
> problem.
>
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From: Eugenio Mastroviti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux router
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:10:56 +0000
ellen migdal wrote:
> To Group:
>
> I am about to set up an old PC as a router - using either linux or
> freseco. My problem is prior to this - I need 2 NIC cards - one coming in
> from ISP,
> one going out to hub. I put in 2 Linksys cards fine - but - how do tell
> which card is which as far as the IRQ addresses are concerned. The router
> software needs to know, and I need to know,the IRQ of the "top" NIC card
> and the IRQ of the "bottom" card.
>
> Also, the Linsys people strongly suggested that I NOT put 2 NIC cards, of
> their ,or other makes, into the same chassis. Is there anything to this??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>
>
I've set up as many as 3 NICs of the same model without any problems (Intel
or 3Com). If you're worried about being able to tell which is which, note
the MAC address and the position of each card. When you type ifconfig -a
you'll be able to see which MAC address goes with which IP.
Eugenio
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From: "LB Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Internet connection sharing problems
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:23:38 GMT
inon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:97uetm$n9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Please help sharing internet connection as follows. Here I am putting down
> the configuration, error/msgs and etc.
> All expertise is welcome.
>
> Goal(s):
> ======
> 1. Win98 machine -- 192.168.0.1 (When in NT, this IP is the default GW.
Able
> to share internet connection)
>
> 2. Linux RH6.1 kernel 2.4.2 -- a client to Win98, and want to share
internet
> connection just like I do while in NT
>
Sounds like a job for ipchains/MASQ or squid....
Squid will really only give you FTP and HTTP... If you want real NAT stuff
to happen, use the MASQ/Chains combo.
LB Drake
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on a old 486
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:47:18 +1100
RedHat and it's cousin Mandrake follow MS-Glassware example by requiring special
hardware (586 and up).
Did it with distribution which is released with kernel compiled for 386 and no
problems, only later you recompile the kernel to conform to what is running in
your box.
You notice that I don't mention names!
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.
Ulf Bengtner wrote:
> I've tried to install Linux on a couple of old 486:s but have not succeded.
> The installation bombs with signal 11.
> I have tried with Redhat 6.1 and Mandrake 7.1 with almost the same result,
> and I have tried two different 486:s without success.
>
> One is a Dell 486 66MHz, 16Mb RAM and 380Mbyte disk. The other is a noname
> computer with 486/66, 20Mbyte RAM and 380Mbyte disk.
>
> I use "text expert" mode and try do a miminal installation. I have
> configured a 40Mbyte swap partition. Everything seems to be OK until the
> install program starts to format the partitions. I don't know if I'm through
> the formatting or not when the install program crashes with signal 11. The
> same happens with Redhat as well as with Mandrake.
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards
> Ulf Bengtner
> (I'm a newbie on Linux but worked with software development for 20 years).
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From: Michael Young <michael&[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound problems - Debian with soundblaster awe64 pnp
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:47:03 -0600
Hello world,
I've been trying to recompile my kernel to include sound & can't figure
out what
I've done wrong.
I used make xconfig to include all the modules the Soundblaster-AWE mini
HOWTO
told me I'd need & Debian's kernel package (make-kpkg ...) to make my
kernel
image & boot disk.
When I try to use the gnome mixer I get this error.
"No mixers found.
Make sure you have sound support compiled into the kernel."
Yet running lsmod confirm's they are there & running.
???
I've also tried sending a raw audio file to /dev/audio as the HOWTO
suggested.
cat english.au > /dev/audio got me a "No such device" error. I do have
a dir
called /dev/snd so I tried #cat english.au > /dev/snd. No error, but no
sound
either.
????
This should be a hint. It would be a hint to me if these error messages
were
not so cryptic.
Typing /etc/isapnp.conf get's me error msgs re: resource conflicts that
refer
me to /proc/ioports.
(fyi, go to http://www.escape.ca/~youngss/error.txt if you wan't to
see)
isapnp.conf looks fine, /proc/ioports look fine too. These are all the
same #'s that work with this card under DOS & Win98.
Thanks in advance,
Michael Young
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From: olgnuby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot magic probs
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:48:21 -0600
kskelton wrote:
>
> Apologies if this is a really stupid question, I'm a total newbie when it
> comes to Linux. I have recently installed Mandrake 7.2, I installed it on a
> separate Hard drive to my main Win98 partition.
Not a stupid question in the light that I can't give you an intelligent
answer to it. ;-)
I've not been able to get MDK 7.2 to load with Boot Magic regardless
where I've put it. Using Mandrake's Boot loader setup Grub and Lilo or
what ever it is and letting it have it's way, I've not had any problems
booting Win98 or any other additional OS. Boot Magic doesn't seem to
recognize Mandrakes way of doing things.
Fact is, RedHat Linux 6.1 when attempting to install on a system that
has had 7.2 installed on it, will not even recognize a partition set up
by 7.2 as a Linux partition. Looking at one from inside of RedHat with
fdisk, it shows as a 4BSD partition.
I don't know that much about the different types of partitions to give
you anymore than that. Other than after about two months of fiddling
with Mandrake 7.2 on and off, I just shit canned it because for me it's
about as stubborn as Windows as far as allowing anything other than out
of the can configuration the way Mandrake wants to do it. I've found
though that most of the Mandrake i586 applications rpms will install and
work fine on my RH 6.1 system with no hassle.
I like Boot Magic also, and have it set up at present to boot Win98, RH
6.1, and surprisingly enough, with a little gymnastics, I was able to
get a bootable Caldera DrDOS on a partition on my second disk for a
DOSEMU and Wine playground with an install of Win95 that I'd zipped and
then transferred to it. I can boot it out of PQBM(bootable as DrDOS, not
Win95) or DOSEMU will use the configuration on it same as booting from
one of the fdimages.
Charlie
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From: Nils Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on a old 486
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:23:53 +0100
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Recent versions of Mandrake and RedHat are optimized for Pentium
> processors, are you aware of that?
> (I'm not saying it's impossible to do, but it'll probably require some
> extra steps. Although I never installed a recent RedHat or Mandrake...)
Well, I think if that would really be the cause of trouble, the machines
would crash during kernel-bootup or when using some applications. I think
it's unlikely that Pentium-optimization is responsbile for a crash when
formatting partitions. Although what you have said is surely a
possibility, I would place it somewhere near the bottom of my
trouble-shooting list if I were having this problem.
I would probably try to boot the machines with some kind of "emergency
system", then create the partitions by hand using fdisk. Then try to make
a filesystem on them using mke2fs. Yes, that's the first step I would do
(because, as has been said, the problem seems to be happening when the
partitions are being formatted).
Greetings,
Nils
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