Linux-Setup Digest #62, Volume #21 Tue, 17 Apr 01 15:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: How do I start gnome? ("ray")
Re: BeOS + Linux + Windows 2000 - Triple boot trouble. ("Technor")
Re: 486 help??!!
Re: Serial Connection (Bill Little)
xhosting (robin barbehenn)
Re: Kernel 2.4.1 and StarOffice (Colin Pinkney)
Re: Find current kernel config ? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: ppp failure (Paul Kimoto)
Re: 2.2.16 -> 2.2.18 migration, modules problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
problems with reiser FS and kernel 2.4.3 (Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6rgen?=)
Re: How do I compile using kgcc? (Jason Lott)
Re: Cannot mount FAT16 partition ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: What's wrong with this box on a beowulf-type cluster ? ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: problems with reiser FS and kernel 2.4.3 ("BetrOffDed")
Re: How do I compile using kgcc? ("BetrOffDed")
What about 1024 cylinder limitation ("XAG")
Re: Err msg in useing pppd (Bill Unruh)
Re: problems with reiser FS and kernel 2.4.3 (Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6rgen?=)
Re: New system: No Sound (Norman Baccari)
Re: BeOS + Linux + Windows 2000 - Triple boot trouble. (Michael Smith)
Re: BeOS + Linux + Windows 2000 - Triple boot trouble. (Witch Lover)
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From: "ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I start gnome?
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:13:33 +0800
I could not find the gnome-win file. Does this means that I have not
installed it? Sorry guys, I am new to Linux. Left the Unix arena for many
years until now I have to pick it up again.
Thanks
"Dave Seff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3adc60d0$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ray wrote:
>
> > How do I start gnome from fvwm?
> > Thanks for help
> >
> >
> >
> >
> from a command prompt, you can run gnome-wm granted it is in your PATH.
> -Dave
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From: "Technor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.beos,alt.os.linux,comp.sys.be.help
Subject: Re: BeOS + Linux + Windows 2000 - Triple boot trouble.
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:59:44 +0530
I have the same setup. Fortunately, BEOS PE is not related to other OS'es.
Simply install it into the Windows Drive and install. Now even if you install
Win2k and RHL ( I have the same combo, Win2k Pro, RHL 6.1, Win 98, QNX and BEOS
PE).
You can install BEOS PE into WIn2k and then mount the system as described in
some tutorials. This is an easier way. And isn't there a limitation in BEOS PE
that you can't install it into a separate partition as yet?
Hari.
"Groman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9bdfqs$d45$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi.
> I have a tiny problem. I want to triple boot between 3 OSes installed
> on my PC: BeOS 5.0 Personal Edition, Win2000 Pro, and Redhat Linux 6.0(Yeah,
> I know, old,
> but I'll update it, as soon as I get some boot managing scheme working).
>
> HD/Partitions:
>
> HD1: 12 gig
> Part1: 11 Gig: NTFS <----------Where win2k lives
> Part2: 1.1 Gig: BFS <----------Where BeOS lives.
>
> HD2: 2.1 Gig
> Part1: 1.9 gig: ext2fs <----------- Where linux lives
> Part2: 0.2 gig: linuxswap <----------- Swap space.
>
> My attempts:
> 1) Lilo: If installed on MBR of HD1, displays: "LI" and hangs.
>
>
> 2) WinNT Bootmenu: Ok, I install lilo on HD2 parition 1 bootsector
> dded it to a file, and copied it to C:\, added it to boot.ini. Got "LI" if
> I pick Linux.
> I don't seem to have a addbeos.exe file, since I erased my install files
> for beos(it lives on it's own parition now).
>
> 3) GRUB... CVSed, compiled, and installed onto HD1 MBR, displays
> "GRUB" and hangs....
>
> 4) BeOS Bootman: Boots beos and windows, but BeOS refuses to
> see my HD2(IDE ATA normal drive secondary master), so I can't even
> attempt booting Linux from it.
>
> What do I do?
>
> Thanx. Groman.(sorry for crossposting, but I can't really see what this
> pertains to specifically).
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: 486 help??!!
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:33:01 GMT
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:19:15 GMT, webgiant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 20:04:48 GMT,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:10:19 GMT, Miguel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>[posted and mailed]
>>>
>>>well i have an old 486 with 8mb ram and a 4go Hd and i wanna know which is
>>>the best way to install linux. i dont have any cdrom drive but im on adsl.
>>
>>Spend the $20 bucks or borrow a cdrom drive.
>
>Gearhead.
>
>New CDROM drives are $40. Some of us don't have that much disposable
>income, or that tiny of an imagination.
Or any friends who have a cdrom.
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From: Bill Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Serial Connection
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:05:09 -0500
Thanks Dave, that worked like a champ.
Bill
Dave Seff wrote:
> You may be able to use minicom. use minicom -s to set up the communication
> params and see if it will connect to the Cisco. -Dave
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From: robin barbehenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xhosting
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:48:32 -0400
I am running linux-mandrake 7.1 with the server install. How do you you
turn on the ability to host remote xwindows sessions either via another
linux/unix box or via an xwindow emulator for a windoes box. Thanks in
advance.
RB
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From: Colin Pinkney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.1 and StarOffice
Date: 17 Apr 2001 16:47:16 GMT
Garry Knight wrote:
> On 16 Apr 2001 15:23:50 GMT Colin Pinkney wrote:
>> > Just a long shot, but what are your fstab entries for these partitions?
>> > Do you have 'user' in the options field?
>>
>> Yes I do have the 'user' option in the relevant fstab entries.
> I don't know why I asked that. I was thinking about your umask option on
> that partition. But since you say:
>> Netscape, Gimp, etc. can all save to my FAT partitions
> then it obviously isn't the umask.
That's ok. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
Does anyone know of any StarOffice mailing lists or whatever that I may
be able to contact about this?
Thanks again.
--
Colin Pinkney
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Find current kernel config ?
Date: 17 Apr 2001 12:50:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, H.Bruijn wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2001 13:55:57 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] allegedly wrote:
>> lots of stuff
>> was missing (like PCMCIA support, it's a laptop).
> Then install the redhat package which contains the RedHat kernel source
> and configuration files from cd (I run Debian myself, but had RedHat
> 6.2 lying around),
> ../SRPMS/SRPMS/kernel-source-2.2.14-5.0.src.rpm,
> I don't know where the config files will end up, my Debian version of
> rpm places them in /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES Find the most relevant one
> kernel-version-{alpha | i386 | i586 | i686 | i686-SMP| sparc}.config
> for your hardware.
>
> Copy that configuration file to the new kernel tree,
> /usr/src/linux-2.2.18/.config
Note that PCMCIA support does not come with 2.2.* kernels. You need
to build kernel modules separately, from the pcmcia-cs distribution.
P.S. The latest 2.2 kernel is .19.
--
Paul Kimoto
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and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: ppp failure
Date: 17 Apr 2001 12:51:50 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, scli wrote:
> -> Apr 17 23:11:17 ACEnet pppd[1168]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
> -> Apr 17 23:11:17 ACEnet pppd[1168]: ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS): Invalid argument
> -> Apr 17 23:11:17 ACEnet pppd[1168]: tcsetattr: Invalid argument
> -> Apr 17 23:11:17 ACEnet pppd[1168]: Exit.
> -> Apr 17 23:11:31 ACEnet modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0
>
> I would like to what's the problem and how can i find ppp0 so that i can
> insmod ppp0.
If you are using the 2.4.* kernel, you need to update (at least) pppd
and modutils; see Documentation/Changes.
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2.2.16 -> 2.2.18 migration, modules problem
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:54:23 GMT
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ne...
says...
>
>On Apr 11, 2001 at 00:40, David Shifflett eloquently wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>I have installed the 2.2.16-22 kernel
>>from the Redhat 7.0 distribution.
>>I then downloaded, compiled and installed the 2.2.18
>>kernel from source, using the following commands:
>>make mrproper
>>make xconfig
>>make dep bzImage modules modules_install
>>sh /usr/src/linux-2.2.18/arch/i386/boot/install.sh 2.2.18 \
>>/usr/src/linux-2.2.18/arch/i386/boot/bzImage System.map /boot
>Don't know where you get the sh command from but I use
>
>cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18
>cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.2.18
The script I use does the copies you list
as well as preserving backup copies.
>make my adjustments to /etc/lilo.conf, run
>/sbin/lilo and reboot. Try that and report
>back whether this works. Oh and lose the
>make xconfig. Use make menuconfig instead.
>
<snip>
You missed the point entirely.
The compiling and boot work fine.
It is the recognition of the modules that I am having trouble with.
Any help on getting the modules auto-loaded, or recognized?
Oh and just because you like 'make menuconfig' doesn't mean
make xconfig is bad, or doesn't work.
thanks
dave
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From: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6rgen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems with reiser FS and kernel 2.4.3
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:15:22 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello!
I already used the Reiser FS with Kernel 2.2.16 (Suse 7.0 already used
Reiser FS in their Kernel) installing the 2.4.2er Kernel caused no
problem; but the compiled and installed 2.4.3er Kernel doesnt boot- it
stops with the following message:
>VFS: cannot open root device "308" or 03:08
>Please append a correct "root" boot option
>Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 308
my boot partion is an ext2 fs, root is reiser fs;
i used the same Kernel options as in 2.4.3 and i used the same lilo
options as 2.2. and 2.4.3; i also tested the newest reiser fs kernel
path; no difference
does anybody knows what went wrong?
thank you
daniel
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From: Jason Lott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I compile using kgcc?
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:09:49 -0500
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:58:21 GMT, Bill Cyzwenki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am running rh7.0
>kernel version 2.4.2
>make is version 3.79.1
>gcc is version 2.96
>
>I have read that I should use kgcc to compile the kernel, instead of
>gcc. To set-up and compile a kernel I take the normal steps using
>"make". How do I tell "make" to compile using kgcc instead of gcc?
>
>I see two places (in my /usr/src/linux-2.4.2/Makefile) where it seems to
>set variables to gcc.
>HOSTCC = gcc
>CC = $(CROSS_COMPILE) gcc
>
>Are these the two places I would change gcc to kgcc? If so, are they
>the only two places
>
>Thanks for you help
The short answer would be "yes"... That is where you change the gcc/kgcc options
and that particular Makefile is the only one that needs to be modified.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot mount FAT16 partition
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:06:38 +0200
Dino Hsu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are so sharp about the partition stuffs.
> I check this in Windows ME and see this partition is a primary
> partition, not a secondary partition, which I thought it is (I might
> have planned it to be secondary).
It can't be. There is no extended partition for it to be in.
> <WIN-ME fdisk begin>
Ecch.
> Display Partition Information
> Current fixed disk drive: 1
> Partition Status Type Volume Label Mbytes System Usage
> 1 Non-DOS %
> 2 Non-DOS %
> D: 3 PRI DOS FAT-SHARED 2055 FAT16 7%
> C: 4 A PRI DOS WINDOWSME 5122 FAT32 18%
> Total disk space is 29181 Mbytes (1 Mbyte = 1048576 bytes)
Says somewhat less than the linux one.
> <WIN-ME fdisk end>
> I wonder how you know this partition is primary or not from Linux
> fdisk, which doesn't seem to mention this. On the other hand, I wonder
The partitions 1-4 are the primary ones. 5-whatever are secondary. And
the distinction is purely logical .. there is no respect in which
they behave differently.
> if a primary FAT-16 partition will cause troubles in Linux, also
No
> wonder if the disorder of partitions can lead to problems in Linux.
No (unless you try ...).
> I currently have 15 partitions with 8 operating systems (1 WIN-ME, 3
> NT's, 2 WIN-2K's, 2 Linuxes, RH7 & RH6.2) in one IDE disk (I will buy
They aren't visible above.
Incidentally, I believe the limit for IDE disks is 63 partitions. Not
That I Know For Certain.
> one more IDE disk later, for more OS' :-) ), but Linux RH7 will only
> *see* 4 partitions, which is the traditional limit of PC operating
?? This is a false statement. Ludicrously false. It's like saying the
Pope can't speak italian :-).
> systems. I use a multi-boot program called bootstar (from Star-Tools),
Well, don't.
> which supports maximum 15 partitions per disk, and maximum 4 disks,
> resulting in maximum 60 partitions in a PC system.
There is no need to go through such gymnastics. All the linux
bootloaders can boot all the systems you mentioned.
Peter
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: What's wrong with this box on a beowulf-type cluster ?
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:06:58 -0600
> I have a small cluster of 6 AMD boxes, and I run PVM programs on top of
> them. One of the boxes is giving me problems, and I don't know what is
> wrong. The configuration of all the boxes is:
>
> ASUS A7V MB AMD Duron 1000MHz 128 MB RAM
> RH 7.0 Kernel 2.4.3
1 GHz Duron? Sounds like an overclocked processor. Try turning it down
to the rated speed, and see if that solves the problem.
steve
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From: "BetrOffDed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems with reiser FS and kernel 2.4.3
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:16:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel G�rgen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello!
> I already used the Reiser FS with Kernel 2.2.16 (Suse 7.0 already used
> Reiser FS in their Kernel) installing the 2.4.2er Kernel caused no
> problem; but the compiled and installed 2.4.3er Kernel doesnt boot- it
> stops with the following message:
>
>>VFS: cannot open root device "308" or 03:08 Please append a correct
>>"root" boot option Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 308
>
> my boot partion is an ext2 fs, root is reiser fs; i used the same Kernel
> options as in 2.4.3 and i used the same lilo options as 2.2. and 2.4.3;
> i also tested the newest reiser fs kernel path; no difference
>
> does anybody knows what went wrong?
>
> thank you
> daniel
>
>
I'm not familiar with suse or what an "er" kernel is, but my first guess
would be that reiserfs support, if built, is built as a module. Make sure
that it is built into the kernel and not as a module if / is reiserfs.
Yes, I see that you stated that you used the same kernel options, but you
may want to re-verify that it is not a module, as that is the error
message you will get if it is (i'm sure there are other problems that will
get you the same error, but...)
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From: "BetrOffDed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I compile using kgcc?
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:20:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bill Cyzwenki"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HOSTCC = gcc
> CC = $(CROSS_COMPILE) gcc
>
> Are these the two places I would change gcc to kgcc? If so, are they
> the only two places
yes and yes
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From: "XAG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What about 1024 cylinder limitation
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:24:30 +0200
I try to install linux and windows on the same disk and I have a problem
with LILO.
My HD is 20 Go and depending on where is the linux partition I have a
message about the 1024 cylinder limitation.
During one of my tries, I had the 'L' of LILO at boot time but nothing else.
I have heard about a problem between bios config of the HD and LILO. As I
have two disks and I 've changed the master switch (the original was a 15
Go), have I to reconfigure the Bios.
Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Err msg in useing pppd
Date: 17 Apr 2001 18:36:58 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andrew Au <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]I upgrad kernel 2.4.2, after upgraded. I can't use pppd connect my isp .
It would be nice if when you upgraded the kernel you actually read the
documentation which came with the new kernel. A new major number usually
implies changes to many things.
Get a new version of pppd.
]Please e-mail to me . tell me how to fix
I suggest that you read the newsgroups.
]Apr 15 12:37:06 pclinux chat[1196]: CONNECT
]Apr 15 12:37:06 pclinux chat[1196]: -- got it
]Apr 15 12:37:06 pclinux chat[1196]: send (^M)
]Apr 15 12:37:06 pclinux pppd[1195]: Serial connection established.
]Apr 15 12:37:06 pclinux pppd[1195]: ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS): Invalid
]argument
]Apr 15 12:37:07 pclinux pppd[1195]: tcsetattr: Invalid argument
]Apr 15 12:37:07 pclinux pppd[1195]: Exit.
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From: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6rgen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems with reiser FS and kernel 2.4.3
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:43:48 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BetrOffDed wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel G�rgen"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> > I already used the Reiser FS with Kernel 2.2.16 (Suse 7.0 already used
> > Reiser FS in their Kernel) installing the 2.4.2er Kernel caused no
> > problem; but the compiled and installed 2.4.3er Kernel doesnt boot- it
> > stops with the following message:
> >
> >>VFS: cannot open root device "308" or 03:08 Please append a correct
> >>"root" boot option Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 308
> >
> > my boot partion is an ext2 fs, root is reiser fs; i used the same Kernel
> > options as in 2.4.3 and i used the same lilo options as 2.2. and 2.4.3;
> > i also tested the newest reiser fs kernel path; no difference
> >
> > does anybody knows what went wrong?
> >
> > thank you
> > daniel
> >
> >
> I'm not familiar with suse or what an "er" kernel is,
sorry - er, thats germish... ;-)
> but my first guess
> would be that reiserfs support, if built, is built as a module. Make sure
> that it is built into the kernel and not as a module if / is reiserfs.
No i thought of this too. Its not compiled as a module.
>
> Yes, I see that you stated that you used the same kernel options, but you
> may want to re-verify that it is not a module, as that is the error
> message you will get if it is (i'm sure there are other problems that will
> get you the same error, but...)
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From: Norman Baccari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New system: No Sound
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:56:58 GMT
Harald Grosskopf wrote:
>
> Hello Norman,
>
> Norman Baccari wrote:
> I had the same problem with my VIA Soundchip on RH7 with Kernel
> 2.2.17-7.
> The Soundcard worked after updating to Kernel 2.4.1, but I think you
> should wait until official RedHat rpm Packages come out.
Yes I've noticed that RedHat now has 7.1 available for
download. Oh my gawd......another install....!
> > tried to run either "make xconfig" or "make menuconfig"
>
> Are you in directory /usr/src/linux? Are the Kernel sources installed?
> If yes, change to the above directory, make menuconfig, or xconfig
> (under X), set your kernel configuration and save it,
> make dep, clean, bzlilo, modules, modules_install.
That must be it, wrong directory. I compiled a kernel
a few years ago so I've forgotten everything and just
generally try to avoid it. Thanks a lot for your help.
Its very appreciated at this point.
Norm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Smith)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.beos,alt.os.linux,comp.sys.be.help
Subject: Re: BeOS + Linux + Windows 2000 - Triple boot trouble.
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:06:30 GMT
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:59:44 +0530, "Technor"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> You can install BEOS PE into WIn2k and then mount the system as described in
>some tutorials. This is an easier way. And isn't there a limitation in BEOS PE
>that you can't install it into a separate partition as yet?
PE will happily install to another partition on your system ...
simply run the "Installer" application and choose your partition
and filesystem. The Be bootmanager works great to
multiboot various OSes -- run "bootman" from a Terminal
window to access it, though Be will ask you if you want
to install the boot manager at the end of the Installer run.
I've deleted my Windows BeOS image and Be runs fine.
(Now I'm sorry I deleted the Windows image because I
want to make a bootable Be install CD-ROM.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Witch Lover)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.beos,alt.os.linux,comp.sys.be.help
Subject: Re: BeOS + Linux + Windows 2000 - Triple boot trouble.
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:03:05 GMT
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:53:35 -0700, "Groman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip
Tiger Direct sells a cool box that fits in a
drive bay that has internal fans and allows you to have up to
three primary drives. (you still have the other 3 IDE channels too)
It has 3 switches on the front, and when you boot up just press the
switch for the drive you want.
You could have 3 smaller drives each with it's own OS.
So you get the benifits of extra fans,plus SOME of the
benefits of a RAID card.
I'm gonna buy one with my tax rebate.
It's about 75.00
Cheers!
W.L.
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