Linux-Setup Digest #210, Volume #21              Fri, 11 May 01 19:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Redhat 7.1 Apache "ServerName" Question ("Scott Jones")
  Re: 7.1 install - No Redhat Disk in CDROM ??? ("Greg Robinson")
  Re: Installing Apache (MCeli)
  Re: 7.1 install - No Redhat Disk in CDROM ???
  Re: Installing Apache (Michael Heiming)
  Re: 7.1 install - No Redhat Disk in CDROM ??? ("Greg Robinson")
  Re: network woes (Michael Heiming)
  Re: Installing Apache (MCeli)
  Re: 7.1 install - No Redhat Disk in CDROM ??? ("Greg Robinson")
  Re: inetd (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
  Re: Space Problems ("@imon")
  Re: Space Problems (Kenny McCormack)
  Re: printtool (Dave Uhring)
  Re: 7.1 install - No Redhat Disk in CDROM ??? ("Greg Robinson")
  Re: PCI modem 3COM/USR 2977 ("arthur")
  Redhat 7.1 & recompiled kernel ("John De Ryckere")
  Re: inetd (Angry Bob)
  Re: Custom kernel build fails on RedHat 7.1 (Angry Bob)
  Re: Redhat 7.1 & recompiled kernel ("Glitch")
  Re: Can't get past log on screen in Caldera 2.4 (Angry Bob)
  Re: Can anyone help with interrupts ("Glitch")
  Re: fetchmail cron job is echoing on Slackware ("Glitch")

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From: "Scott Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.1 Apache "ServerName" Question
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:13:50 -0700

> See:
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#usecanonicalname

Hmmm... I have UseCanonicalName set to On, which seems to mean that my
Apache server *would* send back the correct (ServerName) servername, rather
than whatever they typed in...

Could I be missing something else?

Thanks!

-Scott



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From: "Greg Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 7.1 install - No Redhat Disk in CDROM ???
Date: 11 May 2001 19:13:35 GMT

That makes perfect sence.

Ok, now where can I get information on how to properly make a CD....
Thanks in advance...

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ome.com...
> On 11 May 2001 18:21:34 GMT, Greg Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On the .iso I "see" only the .iso file.
> >
>
> You didn't burn the CD properly.  Programs like 'cdrecord' take the iso
> image and use that image to create a bootable CD with the complete file
> system.



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From: MCeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Apache
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:22:35 GMT

Thank you for your response.

Doesn't Apache come with Linux 7.0?

Manny

"J�rgen Krieger" wrote:

> http://www.apache.org/
> apache server
> download
> httpd
> apache_1.3......
>
> sorry only tar.gz
> (gunzip,   tar xvf,..)
> Then
> ./configure, make, make install
>
> (And a lot of reading the docu)
>
> --
> J�rgen
> -----------------------------------------
> http://torres.server2000.at
>
> I have a dream,
> I still have a dream!
> ---------------------------------
> "MCeli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am new to Linux. I have version 7.0
> > installed and would like to install the
> > Apache server, can anyone tell me where
> > the install files are? (RPM??), and how
> > to go about it?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Manny
> >


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: 7.1 install - No Redhat Disk in CDROM ???
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:30:27 GMT

On 11 May 2001 19:13:35 GMT, Greg Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That makes perfect sence.
>
>Ok, now where can I get information on how to properly make a CD....

Are you using a linux system?  I used cdrecord version 1.9 and it understood
.iso files automagically.  My "burn iso" script (takes an iso file as
a parameter and burns a CD) is:

sudo cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=12 fs=16m driveropts=burnproof -pad -dao $*

the 'dev=0,0,0' is the device shown w/ a 'cdrecord -scanbus' command
burnproof is just for my plextor drive

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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 21:37:59 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Apache

MCeli wrote:
> 
> I am new to Linux. I have version 7.0

What 7.0? Latest stable kernel is 2.4.4.
There are RH 7.0 and SuSE 7.0 and may be
others with 7.0 distro version.

> installed and would like to install the
> Apache server, can anyone tell me where
> the install files are? (RPM??), and how
> to go about it?

However, almost every distro contains apache, SuSE even installs it
per default. Most distros have some tools (SuSE: yast & yast2) to 
install/enable apache to be started on boot, check the manual that
came with your distro.

Michael Heiming

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From: "Greg Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 7.1 install - No Redhat Disk in CDROM ???
Date: 11 May 2001 19:50:55 GMT

Whoa, Just "Got-it".
Feel like I've been pulling on a door, only to have someone mention I should
twist the door knob clockwise and gently pull.

In this case I'm using a Win 2000, Adaptec CD creator...
The program had a .iso image open option...
Burning now, will post results.

Greg

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ome.com...
> On 11 May 2001 19:13:35 GMT, Greg Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >That makes perfect sence.
> >
> >Ok, now where can I get information on how to properly make a CD....
>
> Are you using a linux system?  I used cdrecord version 1.9 and it
understood
> .iso files automagically.  My "burn iso" script (takes an iso file as
> a parameter and burns a CD) is:
>
> sudo cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=12 fs=16m driveropts=burnproof -pad -dao
$*
>
> the 'dev=0,0,0' is the device shown w/ a 'cdrecord -scanbus' command
> burnproof is just for my plextor drive



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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:07:08 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: network woes

Me wrote:
> 
> Hi.  I have had a system running redhat 6.2 for a while with no trouble.
> Recently, I had a crash and some files were removed from my disk during the
> recovery cycle.  (I don't know if that is important, or not.)
> 
> Anyway, when the system boots, my network card no longer works.  And, programs
> which run over the network (even to the local machine-no, not the localhost
> interface, it's ok) fail.  The log /var/log/messages contains the following:
> 
> insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0smp/net/via-rhine.o: init-module: Device or
> resource busy <27>
> insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0smp/net/via-rhine.o: insmod eth0 failed.

via-rhine based cards? Linux hates them, I had only problems with those
cards
on numerous machines, finally I decided to throw them away, they can be
used
with M$ boxes just fine.

check http://www.scyld.com/ for mii-diag and mii-tool and may be there
is a driver
which works for your needs.

Good luck

Michael Heiming

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From: MCeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Apache
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 20:16:14 GMT

I have RH 7.0

Thank you

Michael Heiming wrote:

> MCeli wrote:
> >
> > I am new to Linux. I have version 7.0
>
> What 7.0? Latest stable kernel is 2.4.4.
> There are RH 7.0 and SuSE 7.0 and may be
> others with 7.0 distro version.
>
> > installed and would like to install the
> > Apache server, can anyone tell me where
> > the install files are? (RPM??), and how
> > to go about it?
>
> However, almost every distro contains apache, SuSE even installs it
> per default. Most distros have some tools (SuSE: yast & yast2) to
> install/enable apache to be started on boot, check the manual that
> came with your distro.
>
> Michael Heiming


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From: "Greg Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 7.1 install - No Redhat Disk in CDROM ???
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:26:05 -0500

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Greg,

I know that you've got this problem licked because I read through the
replies. I just wanted to weigh in and say, "Do you know how effing
weird it is to subscribe to a news group and see YOUR OWN NAME
already in the list of postings?!"

A similar coincidence happened to me in college in 1981, too. There
was this other Greg Robinson who flunked virtually everything he took
one semester and somehow OSU mixed up our transcipts. I about shit a
brick when I received 4 Fs and 1 D in the mail after I'd busted my
butt that term and knew, with absolute certainty, that I should have
ACED every single class I took. The good news is that we ended up
being punk rock drinking buddies and I flunked out the next semester.
So, see? It always works out in the end...

Well okay then. Yet another,
Greg Robinson
"Resistance is purile. You will be, uh,  stimulated."


"Greg Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9dh5gu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Downloaded i386 "rpms" copied to CD with dir structure intact - per
> readme. CDROM can be mounted and "read" under 6.2. Booted with img
> floppy. and
> Downloaded .iso images, copied to CD, per install document. Booted
> with img floppy.
>
> Two different machines, one IDE, one SCSI.
> Both times under both "rpms" and .iso CD's message is:
> "No Redhat CD in Drive...."
>
> What the F...?
>
> Anyone have an idea?
>
> Greg
>

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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: inetd
Date: 11 May 2001 20:44:28 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (for udp
> as well as tcp, not that that's of much interest, since there are no
> interesting udp services because if there were nobody would mind if they
> mostly didn't work, by definition, so they couldn't be interesting).

        If you are trying to netboot I assure you you will find udp very
interesting.  Talk and biff might also interest some people.

> It also does logging. Useful, but I already have tcplogger and friends.

        To me, the most useful part would be that you can have a service
that only listens on one interface.  As inetd stands, it listens on every
interface you've got, which means that it may offer services on networks
that are not secure.

JDW


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Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:51:47 +0200
From: "@imon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Space Problems

Kenny McCormack wrote:

>
> Which version(s) of Pmagic can actually resize ext2fs?  AFAIK, it only
> recognizes them - maybe can create them - but not resize.
>
> This is actually of more than passing interest to me, b/c I am about to do a
> resize on some partitions (shrinking a FAT one to make more room for the
> ext2fs one), using Pmagic, but I was assuming I'd have to backup and restore.

I DID use PM 5 on my disk to resize the ext2fs partition. Of course you can
resize only in one direction - towards the end of the disk. However sth fu*ed up,
propably because of my fault, not properly using dd command, so that the extended
partition fat was gone. Luckily i managed to manually recover it.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: Re: Space Problems
Date: 11 May 2001 16:16:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
@imon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
>>
>> Which version(s) of Pmagic can actually resize ext2fs?  AFAIK, it only
>> recognizes them - maybe can create them - but not resize.
>>
>> This is actually of more than passing interest to me, b/c I am about
>> to do a resize on some partitions (shrinking a FAT one to make more
>> room for the ext2fs one), using Pmagic, but I was assuming I'd have
>> to backup and restore.
>
>I DID use PM 5 on my disk to resize the ext2fs partition. Of course you
>can resize only in one direction - towards the end of the disk. However
>sth fu*ed up, propably because of my fault, not properly using dd
>command, so that the extended partition fat was gone. Luckily i managed
>to manually recover it.

Ooh - that doesn't fill me with confidence.  First of all, I will need to
move it down and resize upwards.  Not sure if that will work.

Also, the bit about screwing up the FAT doesn't sound good.  Was that a
result of *you* running dd, or does PM run dd for you "behind the scenes"?

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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: printtool
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:31:50 -0500

Kenny@BUI wrote:

> hello,
> whenever we make a change to the printer setup in the gui printtool the
> changes are not taking effect. when we go back in everything changes back
> to what it was.
> 
> thank you,
> Kenny.
> 
> 
> 
> 

I can't get it to work on RH-7.1 either.  Installed apsfilter; it works OK. 
 http://www.apsfilter.org


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From: "Greg Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 7.1 install - No Redhat Disk in CDROM ???
Date: 11 May 2001 21:43:39 GMT

That was it, everything working perfectly....


"Greg Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9dhfqv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Whoa, Just "Got-it".
> Feel like I've been pulling on a door, only to have someone mention I
should
> twist the door knob clockwise and gently pull.
>
> In this case I'm using a Win 2000, Adaptec CD creator...
> The program had a .iso image open option...
> Burning now, will post results.
>
> Greg
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ome.com...
> > On 11 May 2001 19:13:35 GMT, Greg Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >That makes perfect sence.
> > >
> > >Ok, now where can I get information on how to properly make a CD....
> >
> > Are you using a linux system?  I used cdrecord version 1.9 and it
> understood
> > .iso files automagically.  My "burn iso" script (takes an iso file as
> > a parameter and burns a CD) is:
> >
> > sudo cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=12 fs=16m
driveropts=burnproof -pad -dao
> $*
> >
> > the 'dev=0,0,0' is the device shown w/ a 'cdrecord -scanbus' command
> > burnproof is just for my plextor drive
>
>



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From: "arthur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI modem 3COM/USR 2977
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:51:54 -0700

Maybe it should tell you that my machine is home assembled 
consisting of: 
Asus A7V133-RAID ( I'm not using the RAID ports ) m/b
AMD Duron 700 mhz
128meg 133mhz sdram
WD200BB ( udma 100, 7k rpm, ide )
USR 2977/6
SB16 PCI ( es1371 aka 5880 )
Pine nVidia TNT 32mb AGC

I run Win98 which I installed first.  NO problems.
Next RH 7.0 and the modem problem.  Seems that
ppp/pppd can not share a serial irq ( my theory )
The 2977 can obviously share irq because it worked
in Win98.  Therefore find a PCI slot without any other
serial devices sharing the irq.  Perhaps you can 
turn off Com1/2 in the bios if you aren't using them.

Also, the I always turn off PlugNPlay in my BIOS
This might help especially when changing PCI slots.
But you should try it both ways.

Did you call Gateway?  Do you know what mother board
is in your machine?  That way you can maybe get some
documentation on the m/b and perhaps someone will be
able to help you.

I hate to give up.  ;)

Arthur
==========================
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mark Slagell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> arthur spake:
>> 
>> I had some IRQ sharing problems with the 2977.  It won't work with a
>> USB on my machine so I switched PCI slots with my sound card. Don't try
>> to use the auto configure options with setserial.  Here is what I ended
>> up with in my /etc/rc.serial file:
>> 
>> setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 3 port 0xa000 uart 16550A setserial -b
>> /dev/ttyS3
>> 
>> Change yours to match your port and irq.
>> 
>> 
> Thanks for the advice, those who have responded.
> 
> The above was basically what I'd tried, that and variations thereof.
> When all is said and done, I think it just can't work in a Gateway
> machine with the network adaptor on the motherboard, at least using a
> 2.2.x kernel.  I tried it on another Gateway in the same office -
> different IRQ (9), same result.  But in a third (non-Gateway) Linux box,
> the 2977 is quite happy.  So that's where it will stay.
> 
> Probably I'll end up picking up an external modem for the first machine.
> 
>    Mark

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From: "John De Ryckere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 7.1 & recompiled kernel
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:02:38 -0500

I've installed Redhat 7.1 on my new system. I needed firewire so I
recompiled the kernel. I learned that modules won't compile with
version forcing on, so I disabled it and everything works fine.

My USB mouse no longer works automatically though. The modules
are there but they don't automatically load. If I explicitly load them
from the command line everything works great, but I don't really want
to do this.

I've examined /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit and determined that at the point that
USB devices are looked for the /proc/devices file is empty.

I'm hoping somebody can give me a pointer. I've been poking around
for a couple hours but still am having the same problem. I don't really
understand why /proc/devices would be created later.

John

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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: inetd
Date: 11 May 2001 22:12:38 GMT

What would you like to read?  [comp.os.linux.setup or *?]
This is a Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scroll!  it says:

>   a) it's new, hence buggy.

Not that new.... 

>   b) it uses millions of separate little files instead of one single
>      nice human-editable file.

is that like comparing /etc to the windows registry?  

-- 
AngryBob                        Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
           "F--- off Gates, I'm in a meeting."
                -- http://www.ghetto-prostitute.com/lalala/23.html

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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Custom kernel build fails on RedHat 7.1
Date: 11 May 2001 22:14:17 GMT

What would you like to read?  [[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ?*]
this is a Matthias Haase scroll!  it says:

> It's kernel 2.4.2. 

try again with kernel 2.4.4, 2.4.2 is very very buggy.

-- 
AngryBob                        Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
        "I gave speeches while president on topics like climate change
         until I was blue in the face, but they were not deemed
         newsworthy by you."  -- Bill Clinton addressing the press

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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.1 & recompiled kernel
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:26:58 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"John De Ryckere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've installed Redhat 7.1 on my new system. I needed firewire so I
> recompiled the kernel. I learned that modules won't compile with version
> forcing on, so I disabled it and everything works fine.
> 
> My USB mouse no longer works automatically though. The modules are there
> but they don't automatically load. If I explicitly load them from the
> command line everything works great, but I don't really want to do this.
> 
> I've examined /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit and determined that at the point that
> USB devices are looked for the /proc/devices file is empty.
> 
> I'm hoping somebody can give me a pointer. I've been poking around for a
> couple hours but still am having the same problem. I don't really
> understand why /proc/devices would be created later.
> 
> John

Put the insmod command (to load the modules) in your bootup
script....unless it's changed (i haven't usedRH for a long time) your
bootup script is rc.local. This will load the modules everytime you boot
w/o you having to do it manually.

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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: Can't get past log on screen in Caldera 2.4
Date: 11 May 2001 22:22:32 GMT

What would you like to read?  [[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ?*]
this is a Peter T. Breuer scroll!  it says:

> Rubbish. You only need 64MB for /, anything more is dangerous! Have two
> 64MB / partitions for safety, one a cumulative mirror of the other, at
> different ends of the disk(s).  / really takes up about 28MB on most of
> my distros. You can squeeze a rescue / into 4MB fairly easily, so seven
> times that  is great luxury.

> I have a / of 128MB on my own machine, but that is because every time I
> compile a kernel and its modules, bang goes another 7MB (from /lib/modules).
> And I compile a lot of kernels ...

Not that many kernels.... I usually partition off 100M for /boot, and by
the time I do a full re-install (every few months) it's mostly full.

-- 
AngryBob                        Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
        I often imagine, with full visuals, what playing nethack
        sober would be like.  
                        --sdpcat (from rec.games.roguelike.nethack)

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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can anyone help with interrupts
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:36:13 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "aervir"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My video and sound card are sharing interrupt 11. Is there any thing i
> can do to make both of these cards work correctly.
> _______________________________________________ Submitted via
> WebNewsReader of http://www.interbulletin.com
> 

is there a problem with them sharing an interrupt? As in, are they not
working correctly b/c of the shared interrupt?

If the cards are PCI and everything is working fine then they *are*
working correctly and you don't need to do anything. PCI is made to be
able to share interupts across devices.  If there are problems however
I'd suggest moving one of the cards to another PCI slot ( if the sound
card is ISA then set some jumpers if you can to make it use another IRQ).

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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fetchmail cron job is echoing on Slackware
Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:41:54 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Blackberry"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 10 May 2001 16:02:58 -0500, Dave wrote:
>>
>>fetchmail > /dev/null 2>&1
> 
> I tried that.  It did exactly the same thing, echoed all text to the
> screen. What is "2>&1" supposed to be doing?
> 

stdout, stdin, and stderr, all have a # associated with them (file
descriptor might be appropriate name?).  You can
get the right assignments by viewing the man page for bash. I forget
which # is assigned to what (stderr, stdout, etc.)  but the point is that
you are telling the shell to redirect stdout and stderr to /dev/null by
using 2>&1.  If you only wanted say stdout u would only use 2> (if 2
corresponds to stdout, read man page like i said).

You may actualy want to try 'fetchmail 2>&1 > /dev/null

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