Linux-Setup Digest #353, Volume #20 Fri, 5 Jan 01 17:13:08 EST
Contents:
Setup problem with CD ("glenn anderson")
question on bad hardware ("Kenny@BUI")
happy new year. ("Kenny@BUI")
SB Live on Asus A7V , Red Hat 7.0 error "device or resource busy" ("Maris
Orbidans")
Re: DVD on Redhat 7.0 (Glitch)
Re: Setup problem with CD (Glitch)
Re: Bad file descriptor: /proc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: problem with pppd ("Dirk Maat")
Re: Cannot boot - UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY...
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux Terminal Problem ??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CDs play mono with SB16 and ALSA 0.5.10 -- OSS/Free fine (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Re: Install/Partition Table/Fdisk problems ("Ian Bradley")
kernel 2.4.0 + RAID causes problems ("Oliver Kowalke")
network exercise tools ("Vince Ungaro")
Modules in RH7 ("Maris Orbidans")
Re: DLink Networkcard + SB AWE32 Probs (Nonkel Sue)
cdrecord won't scan bus for cdwriter ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
Re: mounting floppy ("Hung P. Tran")
Re: cdrecord won't scan bus for cdwriter (dan)
Re: Modules in RH7 (dan)
Re: rh 6.2 and ATAPI cdrw (hp 9300), how to get scsi emulation to work (John Foster)
Re: Plea for help with booting. (Zen Sorcerer)
Re: Easy question - Palm software and RH 7.0 (John Beardmore)
Accessing Windoze Printer ("Scott Stembaugh")
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Reply-To: "glenn anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "glenn anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setup problem with CD
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 19:13:21 GMT
Hi,
I have a 486 running DOS/Windows 3.11 with a Sony CDU33A-1 CD (which came
with a Soundblaster) - everything works well (including the CD.
Now I want to rplace DOS/Windows with Linux. But the Linux install program
does not list my CD (closest is Sony CDU31A), and autoprobe fails to detect
anything either.
So, which driver from the install programs list should I try (I've tried
them all with autoprobe), and what are the manual settings I should add (I
know the address and Ive tried every IRQ).
Or would it be much simpler to buy another CD drive? If so which kind?
Thanks for any help
PS Im trying to load Mandrake 7.0 currently. I tried Red Hat about six
months ago and gave up, since it also could not 'see' the CD.
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From: "Kenny@BUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: question on bad hardware
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:22:40 -0500
hello,
assume we have linux running on a server and we are connecting to it using a
terminal
emulator from a windows client to run programs, assume again that our
windows pc
is old and very flaky (freezes a lot etc. bad ram etc.) how will this affect
the data on the linux box since we are running a time sharing system and all
we are doing is connecting to the box and sending screen and keyboard
emulations, while the actual processes are being run on the linux server.
thank you,
kenny.
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From: "Kenny@BUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: happy new year.
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:26:26 -0500
hello,
well i hope you all had a wonderful holiday.
thanks for all the help last year.
thank you,
kenny.
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From: "Maris Orbidans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SB Live on Asus A7V , Red Hat 7.0 error "device or resource busy"
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:27:02 +0200
Hello
I have SB Live on Asus A7V (VIA KT-133 chipset ) motherboard.
Red Hat 7.0 displays error "device or resource busy" every time I try to
load emu10k1 module.
I have found following answer in homepage of Creative Labs:
> Q.A2- I get a "device or resource busy" error when loading the driver
> This is a know bug with ABIT B6 + HPT366 controller motherboards.
> You must not use the `pci=reverse' kernel option.
> Usually this option is set in /etc/lilo.conf.
But I haven't found any `pci=reverse' option in lilo.conf or somewhere
else.
I don't know how to change that option.
Could you give me some advice, please ?
thanx
Maris
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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 14:44:29 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD on Redhat 7.0
well, maybe i dont pay attention enough to my own installation
procedures but i dont recall ever hearing/reading that a configure
script has to be in each subdirectory. If there are subdirectories that
each have files in them that need compiled a certain way then the
configure script will create the appropriate Makefile for each of those
directories, or the Makefile will already be present in each one, I
forget exactly which way it happens.
I really doubt u need a configure script for each subdirectory. I know
i've compiled programs with multiple subdirectories where the source
files exist (ALSA being one of them) and i've never had to run
./configure in each of those subdirectories.
i assume there is only a master configure script for Livid in the main
directory. Have you ran that one yet and if so what happened? If u
havent ran it yet, why not?
i'll await your reply.
HTH
brandon
p.s. betteryet mail me directly when u respond in case i forget about
this thread. Sometimes I do that and dont go back to old threads.
News wrote:
>
> Right,
>
> As I said, I try to stick to the documentation which comes with it but for
> example not all the configuration scripts (./configure) are present in all
> directories but the INSTALL document says that I would have to run
> ./configure.
>
> I am running RH 7.0 with a 2.2.18 kernel which works fine (in fact
> everything works perfectly). I also have all the libs and tools which are
> required but if there is no clear guidance on how to compile LiVid how shall
> I do it ?
>
> This is why I asked whether anybody else has had any problems. As a result
> there are no error messages because I don't even get to the stage of
> compilation.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Oliver
>
> --
> To reply to this mail directly pleae use
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> > "news.volny.cz" wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I have just downloaded the new Livid DVD player package but cannot get
> it to
> > > compile properly although al the required libraries and programs are
> present
> > > on my system.
> > >
> > > The documentation which comes with it doesn't seem to be correct in
> terms of
> > > the steps you have to take in order to get it compiled.
> > >
> > > Has anybody had similar experiences and if yes, what did you do ?
> >
> > we wouldn't know since you didnt provide the exact error messages you
> > are getting. we cant read your mind, or your computer screen from here.
> > Our telescopes can't compensate for the curvation of the Earth's
> > surface.
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Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 14:48:05 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setup problem with CD
I'd say get rid of the proprietary cdrom drive and get a generic 24x or
48x cdrom for like $30 or so. It will be recognized using a general IDE
cdrom driver that even DVD drives can use. It will also be faster than
your current drive with less headaches.
HTH
glenn anderson wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have a 486 running DOS/Windows 3.11 with a Sony CDU33A-1 CD (which came
> with a Soundblaster) - everything works well (including the CD.
>
> Now I want to rplace DOS/Windows with Linux. But the Linux install program
> does not list my CD (closest is Sony CDU31A), and autoprobe fails to detect
> anything either.
>
> So, which driver from the install programs list should I try (I've tried
> them all with autoprobe), and what are the manual settings I should add (I
> know the address and Ive tried every IRQ).
>
> Or would it be much simpler to buy another CD drive? If so which kind?
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> PS Im trying to load Mandrake 7.0 currently. I tried Red Hat about six
> months ago and gave up, since it also could not 'see' the CD.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bad file descriptor: /proc
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 19:53:13 GMT
I solved my own problem. I saw on another disucussion forum (UKLUG I
think) that someone has update their Helix (Gnome) dist. with the
automatic installer and upon rebooting received the same messages I did.
The effect of the update modifed /dev/null to be a regular file with
some sort of message in it ... hence "Bad file descriptor".
So the following three commands I ran in maintainance mode:
> mount -n -o remount,rw /
> rm -f /dev/null
> mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3
The "mount ..." command allows you to actually do something on the "/"
filesystem because it will probably be in read-only mode. You then have
to remove null so that you can remake the node.
In article <935553$vt8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am running RH6.2 on one of my machines and have
> been for quite some time now. I was currently
> forced switch my "veal pen" (cubicle) here at
> work, and upon doing that I get the following
> errors when booting:
>
> Mounting proc filesystem dup2: Bad file descriptor
>
> Configuring kernel parameters dup2: Bad file
> descriptor
>
> ...
> etc.
> ...
>
> I have seen a post exactly like this one on
> 11/17/2000 but noone replied to it so I assume
> he/she either fixed the problem or switched Linux
> dist's. In either case, can someone tell me how to
> solve this? fsck'ing does absolutely nothing.
>
> Sent via Deja.com
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>
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From: "Dirk Maat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with pppd
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:05:01 +0100
SOLVED!
"Dirk Maat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi there,
>
> I'm experiencing a problem with pppd.
>
> I used netcfg to create a ppp interface. I provided all the basic
> information according to the ppp-HOWTO.
> But... It doesn't work.
>
> According to syslog:
> - my computer connects to my provider
> - I log in.
> - pppd starts up
> - there is a disconnection after a few seconds
>
> Syslog says that I need to provide the remote IP.
> ("Could not determine remote IP")
>
> This is strange. This is what the HOWTO says:
> "(...) you do not need to specify the Remote IP address (the address of
the
> PPP interface on the server to which you connect). "
>
> I found the errormessage that occurs in the ppp-FAQ:
> "This happens with many configurations of the Telebit Netblazer."
>
> - What is the Telebit Netblazer?! Did I use that? Didn't think so!
>
> FAQ:
> "Use the local IP address and the remote IP address as a parameter to the
> pppd process."
>
> In short: The FAQ says I have to provide both local and remote IP but the
> HOWTO says I don't.
> I personally think the FAQ is wrong. How could I provide local IP if it is
> dynamic?!
>
> Anyway,
>
> My questions:
> - What IP should I provide? (Which one do I have to ask my provider?)
> - Do I have to provide an IP? Is there some workaround?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dirk
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cannot boot - UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY...
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 20:00:59 GMT
Thanks for the reply. Out of urgency I ended up opting for a full re-
installation.
For anyone who's interested this is the email I finally got back from
Redhat, not all that helpful...
===========
The resolution is:
Did you turn off the system without shutting it down properly? Or have
a power outage? Is the root Harddrive possibly specified wrong in
/etc/fstab? Is this the first boot or is this a previously
installed/configured system?
My best advice is first: backup if possible. (it may be too late for
that, depending on how serious the error is)Second, try the
command "fsck -Aa" as this should attempt to repair all errors
automatically on all file systems. Please note that this may not repair
everything (dpeending on the extent of the damage). My suggestion would
be to attempt a backup after this, and recover what you can after a
reinstall. (even if nothing seems to be broken, I would be prepared to
reinstall just in case something not-obvious was broken). If this does
not help any, the only choice I can give you is to reinstall, as the
damage is more extensive then I can help you with at this level.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Terminal Problem ???
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 20:11:00 GMT
Hi,
I am running Red Hat Linux 6.2 (Zoot), kernel version number 2.2.16-3.
The system had been stable for several months. Ran without complaint.
I have the machine setup for text-based login.
I left it on over Christmas and went on a 2 week vacation. When i
returned, I had no video and so had to reset the machine.
Upon rebooting, I discovered that I was unable to log-on.
The machine boots up properly and prompts me to log-in.
When I enter the username and hit return, the screen refreshes and
again prompts me for username.
So I am never prompted for the password and therefore can never log-in.
I am at my wit's end. Have tried using Ctrl-M and Ctrl-J [keyed
equivalents of carriage return and line feed] as well as the Enter
[numeric keypad] and Return.
Still, I can never get a prompt for the password. THe screen refreshes
and again asks for the username.
Incidentally, on a related note,I was formerly able to use the Alt-1,
Alt-2, and Alt-# keystrokes to open new text-based consoles.
However, I can no longer do this, either...
Can someone diagnose these symptoms?
Neither an upgrade install from CD nor a floppy boot disk can rectify
the problem....
A fresh install is out of the question as I must preserve the data on
existing user accounts.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.dev.sound
Subject: CDs play mono with SB16 and ALSA 0.5.10 -- OSS/Free fine
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 20:05:53 GMT
Does anyone have a SoundBlaster 16 card setup which correctly
plays music CDs? By "correctly" I mean that both L/R
channels are active.
If so, what version of ALSA and kernel are you running?
Also, what is your ALSA setup?
What does 'alsactl -f example store' store into "example"
What does 'amixer gcontents' report?
Thanks....
--
Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: "Ian Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install/Partition Table/Fdisk problems
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 20:13:49 -0000
There is a utility called DELPART - search for it on any web search engine.
This will delete any partition information from the disk and allow you to
start from scratch again.
I have seen fdisk get into the situation where it offers to display logical
drives then denies that there are any present.
Please use this utility with care however - it takes no prisoners.
Regards
Ian Bradley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi! Al,
> I got a lot of help from others. So at least I should contribute what ever
> I know for sure because I was there when I started linux.
>
> I installed RedHat 6.1 for my learning process. I did not pay much
> attention during installation whether it asked to install lilo or not.
> But it messed up my old lilo. So it messed around MBR for sure.
>
> If I were you, I would bring up window.
> Using Partition magic,I will resize windows and create 2-.ext
> partitions,linux and swap and format ext2.
> Then I will install linux and tell it where to install.
>
> Hope it will help you.
> Myint
>
>
>
> Jason B wrote:
> >
> > Ok I'm pretty sure for your last question that the dos command fdisk
/mbr
> > will let you funtion normally agian in dos. But you'll have to ask one
of
> > the more experienced people in here about your Linux woes.
> >
> > Jason Bean
> >
> > A & G wrote:
> >
> > > I was setting up partitions for a new linux machine I was making, but
> > > during the formatting stage of the RH 6.1 Install process, the system
> > > hung. Since then I haven't been able to reformat the drive or get rid
> > > of the partition(s) which were created. Instead every time I try to
> > > install Linux and I get to the stage of indicating what kind of an
> > > Install I want to do (gnome workstation, server, etc...), I get the
> > > messge "an error occurred reading the partition table for the block
> > > device hda: No such file or directory".
> > >
> > > I tried deleting the partitions using dos fdisk, but all it could do
is
> > > see the partitions, it wouldn't let me delete them.
> > >
> > > 1. I'd like to try using a linux fdisk, but apparently my linux boot
> > > floppy is dead - anyone know how/where I can get another?
> > >
> > > 2. MORE IMPORTantly - does anyone know how I can wipeout my
partition
> > > table and create a nice new clean one from scratch so I can install
> > > linux on my hd. Currently I can install windows on this hd, but as
far
> > > as Linux goes, it just keeps reporting the same error above. BTW the
> hd
> > > is a new 45gb, so I'm doubting that it's the source of the problems.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Al
> >
> > --
> > http://members.home.net/jbean3
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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From: "Oliver Kowalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel 2.4.0 + RAID causes problems
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:33:21 +0100
Hi,
my system is a debian2.2r2 (i386) with software raid (level 0,1). I'm using
a 2.2.16 kernel (raid patches) - no problems. Today I compiled a 2.4.0
kernel with the same options. If I try to boot the kernel it fails:
on boot prompt:
fsck.ext2 : no such file on directory while trying to open /dev/md0 (null)
superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem
Why can kernel 2.2.16 mount the / (/dev/md0) and the 2.4.0 kernel doesn't?
cfdsik can read the partition tables of devices which build the raid system.
please help!
thanks,
Oliver
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From: "Vince Ungaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: network exercise tools
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:08:40 -0800
What are some good (free) tools to test throughput and integrity of network
connections on linux systems (i.e. automated testing of things like ping,
ftp various file sizes, etc, etc).
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From: "Maris Orbidans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modules in RH7
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:19:27 +0200
hello
Does anyone know how to configure which modules to load during startup of
Red Hat 7.0 ?
I didn't find /etc/rc.d/rc.modules nor modules.conf file.
thanx
--
Maris
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From: Nonkel Sue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DLink Networkcard + SB AWE32 Probs
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:10:06 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem concerning my soundcard is OK. I found a solution (oss).
> isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf
This already gives me an "enabled OK" for my networkcard, so that's
positive.
> Which will then setup the hardware for you. However, you may still need
> to load the drivers and configure the card. The drivers can be loaded
> using the "modprobe" command. Generally like so:
that driver history is something else ... When I look in
/lib/modules/2.2.16/net I can't find the driver for my DLink 220 card. I
can see that their are drivers like de4x5.o, de600.0 and de620.o (which
are IMHO also DLinkcard drivers), but is not possible to load any of
them.
> modprobe ne.o
I also tried this one, but I always get a "can't load module bla bla
bla"... I tried to find the drivers for that networkcard on the site of
DLink, but apparently they do not exist...
What else can I try ?
br,
Nonkel Sue
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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: cdrecord won't scan bus for cdwriter
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:16:06 -0500
Hello,
I used to have perfectly well running system under RH linux 6.1 but I
chose to upgrade to REDHAT 7.0. Now I can not use cdrecord anymore to
burn CDs. I have external CD writer HP7200e. I can use the this writer
as cdrom i.e. I can mount CDs but can not create new CDs. It gives me
error like can not scsi command , inappropriate ioctl for the
device......
cdrecord -scanbus also gives the same error.
Help ! please.....I am getting frustrated now.....
Thanks in advance
Parminder Lehal
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From: "Hung P. Tran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: mounting floppy
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:20:07 GMT
Your tip certainly help.
Thank you to all who response. I've check the device major/minor number
and it seems fine. Nothing is wrong with fstab. Yes, it seems like Redhat 6.1
does include the floppy driver. I've checked my /var/log/dmesg and found
the following error:
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
floppy0: Floppy io-port 0x03f0 in use
Anyone has any idea.
Thanks,
hung
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Hung P. Tran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a standard installation (using typical installation)
> > of Redhat Linux 6.1. I am having problem mounting floppy
> > drive. I tried:
> >
> > mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy <RETURN>
> >
> > and get the error: the kernel does NOT recognize /dev/fd0 as
> > a block device (may be 'insmod driver' ?)
> >
> > Any idea ? It seems like the regular Redhat installation does
> > NOT include the floppy driver.
>
> Redhat 6.1 does include the floppy driver (on my system).
> Maybe the drive has failed, have you tested it with a
> boot floppy?
>
> >
> > Please advice.
>
> Check the file /var/log/dmesg for logs of the floppy drive init
> at boot time, that should give you some clue what is broken.
> Look right after the logs of hard drive init(s)
> My dmesg logs look like this:
>
> <snip>
> hda: Seagate Technology ST31276A
> hdb: WDC AC2420F
> hdc: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
> Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
> Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> <snip>
>
> Hope this helps
> Bluster
>
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From: dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: cdrecord won't scan bus for cdwriter
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 15:19:15 -0600
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I used to have perfectly well running system under RH linux 6.1 but I
> chose to upgrade to REDHAT 7.0. Now I can not use cdrecord anymore to
> burn CDs. I have external CD writer HP7200e. I can use the this writer
> as cdrom i.e. I can mount CDs but can not create new CDs. It gives me
> error like can not scsi command , inappropriate ioctl for the
> device......
>
> cdrecord -scanbus also gives the same error.
>
> Help ! please.....I am getting frustrated now.....
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Parminder Lehal
if this is an ide burner, you need to load the scsi emulation module
(ide-scsi)
insmod ide-scsi
i haven't figured out how to put this into /etc/conf.modules yet
if it is scsi, i have no idea what is wrong
good luck,
dan
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From: dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modules in RH7
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 15:20:39 -0600
Maris Orbidans wrote:
> hello
>
> Does anyone know how to configure which modules to load during startup of
> Red Hat 7.0 ?
>
> I didn't find /etc/rc.d/rc.modules nor modules.conf file.
>
> thanx
>
> --
> Maris
i don't have rh7.0, but in 6.2, the file is /etc/conf.modules
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From: John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rh 6.2 and ATAPI cdrw (hp 9300), how to get scsi emulation to work
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:25:36 +0000
John Foster wrote:
> [re modules ide-scsi and sr_mod]
> The CD-Writing HOWTO mentions these modules too, but on my system
> (RH6.2) modprobe is unable to find a module sr_mod. Trying 'locate
> sr_mod' yields nothing.
>
> Where can I find sr_mod?
and in response I had an email from Jason Byrne, pointing me to his web
page at
http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~jbyrne/linux.htm
with various tips including CD-burning. It's very quickly got me up and
recording, so I pass it on here.
Thanks, Jason!
John
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From: Zen Sorcerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plea for help with booting.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:30:07 -0000
I agree, Mandrake is totally useless. In Red Hat you have always been given
a CHOICE to boot from the MBR or a bootdisk during install. I don't like
Mandrakes install program because it tries to configure everything
including your kitchen sink during install while at the same time taking
control away from the end-user. It confuses most first time users...and is
a waste of time, like WindowsNT...yikes. It takes half a day to install
WindowsNT and you still end up with drivers failing (like my Espson printer
driver), which works fine under Red Hat 7 but always fails under WindowsNT
even with the updated driver. In fact I didn't even have to install a
driver in Red Hat 7, it just freakin' worked. And although some people
gripe at Red Hat for every little thing they do, at least they put together
a distro that works and has a very simple and fast install process. I also
tried out Mandrake 7.2 but have now gone back to using trusty old Red Hat
which puts me in control and has never let me down. You would think that
Mandrake would have learned from M$ mistakes...I guess some people never
learn.
Zen
olgnuby wrote:
>
> I just shit canned thirty five dollars worth of Mandrake 7.2 for what
> ever it may be worth, which for me is worthless.
>
> I found it to be about as amenable to allowing a user to take control
> and have a say so in the install process as Microsoft Windows. Even in
> Text mode, choosing the all install option to supposedly allow you to
> control all aspects of the install.
>
> I evaluated it in the beginning from the stand point of a first time
> user and found it to be okay, I guess for someone who wants a Linux
> installation without any fuss or bother that will come out of the can
> and
> plop down on the plate but past that point, I began to have problems. PQ
> boot magic does not recognize it as a bootable entity for me, Once
> booted into mdk, one can change the boot sequence or reset the default
> boot and etc. by modifying the /etc/lilo.conf, but I had no luck getting
> an older version of LILO, essentially same situation I had with PQ, to
> boot the mandrake when I set it from, say for example RH 6.1 or COL 2.3.
>
> If you have the same edition of MDK that I bought, practically
> everything on it is pre-release and will need to be upgraded from the
> Mandrake site to get the KDE 1.9something pre upgraded to 2.0 in
> addition to about four hours of other download on a 56K connection.
>
> I guess the thing that surprised me most is when I decided to install RH
> 6.1 back over the partitions that mdk had set on the disk, RedHat told
> me I had no linux partitions on my machine, and I know damn good and
> well I didn't get it installed in Win as UMSDOS.
>
> Best wishes and good luck.
>
> Charles
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Recently I installed Mandrake 7.2 on a machine that previously ran
> > Win98 (and Slackware Linux 3.(x?),
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Easy question - Palm software and RH 7.0
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 20:24:25 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Rose
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>Next time select you packages individually so that you know exactly
>what you installed...
This is all very well oh wise one, but how is the utter novice to know
what modules to install ?
Cheers, J/.
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From: "Scott Stembaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Accessing Windoze Printer
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:34:34 -0500
I would like to access my Windoze Printer (Canon BJC-250) from a Debian 2.2
machine. How can I do this? Printer is connected to a Win98 machine which
is also the gateway to the world. I am able to share the printer with other
windoze boxes using NetBUEI (File/Print sharing only bound to NetBUEI).
How do I do this? I don't mind RTFMing but I am not sure which FM to R.
Thanks,
--scott
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