Linux-Setup Digest #415, Volume #21 Mon, 11 Jun 01 06:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Dual Boot ("Toobs")
xfree advice needed (Riyaz Mansoor)
Re: xfree advice needed (Riyaz Mansoor)
DRI under kernel 2.2.14 ?? (Martin Litzenberger)
Re: Dual Boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: BT-946C SCSI and Ethernet IRQ Conflict? ("Duane Healing")
Re: What is Linux 2000? (Niels Kristian Jensen)
Re: 2GB File size limitation ("Spiffy")
Re: Dual Boot (Juergen Pfann)
Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 530 Graphics Card (Chris Nappin)
Re: unable to find a file ! (Baertschiger Thierry)
Hard Drive Re-partitioning (Skylar Thompson)
Using a linux box as an Internet router (Zsolt Koppany)
Re: swap doesn't unmout properly (ken pile)
Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 530 Graphics Card (Riyaz Mansoor)
Re: Hard Drive Re-partitioning ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Hard drive performance w/ hdparm (Robert Davies)
Re: DRI under kernel 2.2.14 ?? (Robert Davies)
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From: "Toobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual Boot
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:14:43 -0700
I want to install Mandrake, but I want to dual boot with Win 2000. How
should I do this? Can I install Linux and dual boot without formatting W2k?
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From: Riyaz Mansoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xfree advice needed
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:21:36 +1000
hi
i've got redhat 7.1 up and running on my system p2 350mhz, sis 6326,
256mb, 15" hyndai monitor at a resolution of 1024x768. the problem i'm
having at the moment is the screen flickers when i run the startx. also
some applications have a slow refresh problem, which i beleive is
related.
earlier i had redhat 6.2 and i downloaded (i think) xfree 4.0.3,
installed it and there were no flicker problems. redhat 7.1has 4.0.2.
fortunately, i had the XF86Config file from earlier installation. i
tried that config file to see if it still worked, with the xfree86
tester using
$: XFree86 -xf86config -/rh62/xfconfigfile
it loaded X at the correct resulution. hoping this would solve my
problem i tried startx but got the following error saying some thing
like:
"ServerLayout" secion not recognized
there were some other sections that were not recognized.
i undrerstand that the xfree config file format underwent some changes
for the 4.x series. is this my problem? how could i solve it?
. i'm really at a loss, with the testing facility working but startx not
working.
i have a slow internet connection, so i'd like to avoid downloading the
latest xfree version if i can avoid it.
riyaz
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From: Riyaz Mansoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xfree advice needed
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:45:15 +1000
one thing i forgot to mention,
the old config file had the "sis" driver to support my graphics card, but
my exisiting config file has the "svga" driver, which i believe is a more
generic one. could this be the problem? as i said before, the xfree test
went fine with the "sis" driver in the config file.
thanx
Riyaz Mansoor wrote:
> hi
>
> i've got redhat 7.1 up and running on my system p2 350mhz, sis 6326,
> 256mb, 15" hyndai monitor at a resolution of 1024x768. the problem i'm
> having at the moment is the screen flickers when i run the startx. also
> some applications have a slow refresh problem, which i beleive is
> related.
>
> earlier i had redhat 6.2 and i downloaded (i think) xfree 4.0.3,
> installed it and there were no flicker problems. redhat 7.1has 4.0.2.
>
> fortunately, i had the XF86Config file from earlier installation. i
> tried that config file to see if it still worked, with the xfree86
> tester using
>
> $: XFree86 -xf86config -/rh62/xfconfigfile
>
> it loaded X at the correct resulution. hoping this would solve my
> problem i tried startx but got the following error saying some thing
> like:
>
> "ServerLayout" secion not recognized
>
> there were some other sections that were not recognized.
>
> i undrerstand that the xfree config file format underwent some changes
> for the 4.x series. is this my problem? how could i solve it?
>
> . i'm really at a loss, with the testing facility working but startx not
> working.
>
> i have a slow internet connection, so i'd like to avoid downloading the
> latest xfree version if i can avoid it.
>
> riyaz
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From: Martin Litzenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: DRI under kernel 2.2.14 ??
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:49:11 +0200
hello
I have an "old" suse 6.4 distr. with kernel V. 2.2.14 installed and
upgraded to xfree86 4.0.2 (which works fine). now i want to install the
DRI but the readme's say you need kernel V. => 2.3 .
is there a way to compile the DRI-module under kernel 2.2.14 ?
or even better - are there pre-compiled DRI modules for 2.2.14 ?
also the docu. says "rage 128 PRO" video cards are not supported by the
DRI (i have a ATI Xpert 2000pro installed). is there a workaround ? will
rage128 pro maybe work with the rage128 driver, but slower?
best regards
martin
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TU-Vienna Inst.for Solid State Electronics
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dual Boot
Date: 11 Jun 2001 07:01:02 GMT
Toobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to install Mandrake, but I want to dual boot with Win 2000. How
> should I do this? Can I install Linux and dual boot without formatting W2k?
Yes you can, AFAIK, you can use the bootloader of win2K to load both
Win and Linux. Some days ago there was another thread on the same
subject, so I suggest you to read the older messages.
Davide
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BT-946C SCSI and Ethernet IRQ Conflict?
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:21:05 GMT
In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "James K. Wiggs"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flailed at the keyboard thusly:
> I picked up an old Seagate 50-pin SCSI-II drive for a pittance to hook
> up to a BT-946C SCSI card that had been sitting idle since the CD writer
> it was attached to went belly-up. I installed these into my "file
> server" box, a dual PPro-200 running Debian 2.2r3. I recompiled the
> kernel with the only difference being that I turned on SCSI support,
> specifically for the Buslogic cards. The card was identified OK on boot
> and I was able to partitiion the drive and enable some swap space on it
> (haven't built any filesystems yet) so I'm fairly certain both drive and
> card are working fine.
>
> The problem is that now my PCI ethernet card no
> longer works. It's a Netgear FA-310TX which has done yeoman's duty
> since the day I bought it, though for some odd reason it gets identified
> in the boot logs for Debian 2.2r3 as a "Lite-On 82c168". Doen't matter;
> it worked just fine until I put the SCSI card into the box. Both SCSI
> card and network card are using IRQ 9, with the SCSI card doing its I/O
> at 9400 and the net card using 9800. I've gone into the SCSI card setup
> at boot time, and it will not allow me to modify the IRQ value. I'm
> unaware of any way to force the network card to a different IRQ. Can
> anyone make any suggestions about where I could get started, here?
> Forgive my ignorance, but I thought one of the points of PCI was that
> you didn't have to worry (as much) about IRQs and such; that the devices
> were capable of sharing them, if necessary, and that the whole thing was
> for the most part self-configuring. So, what's up?
Kind of a shot in the dark, but have you tried rearranging the card
order? Put one or both in different slots, try reversing their order, etc.
This might help but it's just a guess really, I'm hardly a PCI bus expert.
--
-Duane Healing
-DNAware SoftLabs
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Subject: Re: What is Linux 2000?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels Kristian Jensen)
Date: 11 Jun 2001 09:44:56 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Lee) skrev i
<9g1gj0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>I learnt from the other friends that there is the OS concerning Linux
>2000, where is such OS found?
Perhaps here?
http://www.linux-2000.co.uk/
Found using google.com with the search "Linux 2000"
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From: "Spiffy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: 2GB File size limitation
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:07:09 +0200
I've run into 2GB file limit problem with an ORACLE Backup. The problem was
solved as followed:
you need to create a PIPEFELE:
mknod /dev/exp_p.dmp p (you can call "exp_p.dmp" whatever you like)
We then added the following lines to the export script (This was for the
Oracle Backup, but maybe it can help:
$ORACLE_HOME/bin/exp exporter/exporter file=/dev/exp_p.dmp compress=n
constraints=y
consistent=y grants=y buffer=1024000 full=y log=$EXPLOG &
cat /dev/exp_p.dmp | gzip > $EXPFILE &
This gzips the export on the fly.
Hope that it helps some, let me know and I'll let you know how the import
would work.
Kent A Vander Velden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9g093j$clt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > My advice: just don't. Why do you need big files, anyway?
>
> And who would need more than 640K? I run into the 2GB limit too
> frequently with scientific datasets. It is a real pain in the behind.
>
> ---
> Kent Vander Velden
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
> Kent Vander Velden
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Boot
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:24:27 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Toobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I want to install Mandrake, but I want to dual boot with Win 2000. How
> > should I do this? Can I install Linux and dual boot without formatting W2k?
>
> Yes you can, AFAIK, you can use the bootloader of win2K to load both
> Win and Linux. Some days ago there was another thread on the same
> subject, so I suggest you to read the older messages.
>
> Davide
And of course, you can use LILO (or grub) in the MBR as primary
bootmanager, too, and W2k's as secondary - it's not much more
than a matter of choice (or "political correctness" <bg> ).
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Nappin)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 530 Graphics Card
Date: 11 Jun 2001 02:01:20 -0700
I'm having trouble getting Red Hat 7.1 (XFree86 v4.0.3-5) to work with
my graphics card - an SiS 530 (8MB shared RAM). It supports up to
1024x768 at 16-bits, but I've not been able to get it to work at any
resolution or bit depth: the screen is corrupted and not legible -
with random black lines and interference flickering accross the
screen.
I know that there is no hardware problem, because it works in Win98.
And previously the card worked fine under Corel Linux and Mandrake
versions 7.0 and 7.1 (which use XFree 86 v3.x). I've tried setting the
card to 4MB and 8MB, tried all supported resolutions and bit depths,
and tried using the "sis" and default drivers. I've been trying to
sort this out for several days now, and would really appreciate some
help.
Would upgrading to XFree86 v4.1.0, or downgrading to v3.3.6, help? If
so, how do I downgrade using the Red Hat RPMs, without reinstalling my
root partition?
cheers,
Chris Nappin.
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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:14:43 +0200
From: Baertschiger Thierry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: unable to find a file !
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Frank Ranner wrote:
> Didier Baertschiger wrote:
> >
> > Hello !
> >
> > I've got the following problem:
> >
> > I have an executable file (maple) in a directory which is totally
> > impossible to start ! All the accesses are ok (chmod +x ...).
> >
> > When I do a "ls -l" everything seems to be ok , but when I want to
> > run it, impossible ! the bash says that there is no file or repertory
> > of this type.
> >
> What is happening is that the loader is trying to load the file,
> notices that
> some libraries are needed, but cannot find the libraries. To find out
> what libraries
> try 'ldd ./maple' in the directory containing the executable.
>
> Frank
yes but in that case, the loader would give the name of the library that it
cannot find, not the name of the program !!
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Departement de Physique Theorique
Universite de Geneve - Suisse
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Frank Ranner wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Didier Baertschiger wrote:
<br>>
<br>> Hello !
<br>>
<br>> I've got the following problem:
<br>>
<br>> I have an executable file (maple) in a directory which is totally
<br>> impossible to start ! All the accesses are ok (chmod +x ...).
<br>>
<br>> When I do a "ls -l" everything seems to be ok ,
but when I want to
<br>> run it, impossible ! the bash says that there is no file
or repertory
<br>> of this type.
<br>>
<br>What is happening is that the loader is trying to load the file,
<br>notices that
<br>some libraries are needed, but cannot find the libraries. To find out
<br>what libraries
<br>try 'ldd ./maple' in the directory containing the executable.
<p>Frank</blockquote>
yes but in that case, the loader would give the name of the library
that it cannot find, not the name of the program !!
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Universite de Geneve - Suisse</pre>
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From: Skylar Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Hard Drive Re-partitioning
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:54:37 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just got a new SCSI hard drive, and am having some trouble repartitioning it. I would
like to make it all Linux, with one big extended partition containing a 3GB root
partition, a 3GB opt partition, and a ~2.5GB home partition. Unfortunately, I cannot
get anything to format the hard drive ext2. Partition Magic v6 crashes whenever it
tries repartitioning the drive, fdisk destroys the partition table when it tries
writing,
cfdisk needs a partition to work with, and I have not figured out sfdisk's UI yet.
Can anyone help? Another repartitioning program or some trick with one of the above
would help.
--
--Skylar Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
`All that is gold does not glitter/Not all those who wander are lost
The old that is strong does not wither/Deep roots are not reached by the frost
>From the ashes a fire shall be woken/A light from the shadows shall spring
Renewed shall be blade that was broken/The crownless again shall be king.'
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From: Zsolt Koppany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Using a linux box as an Internet router
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:26:50 +0200
Hi,
I have a linux box that has as internet access. How can I use this host
as a router for other hosts?
Zsolt
--
Zsolt Koppany
Intland GmbH www.intland.com
Schulze-Delitzsch-Strasse 16
D-70565 Stuttgart
Tel: +49-711-7221873 Fax: +49-711-7871017
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From: ken pile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: swap doesn't unmout properly
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:38:45 GMT
Are you suggesting I might have to recompile my kernel after some file
editing?
I looked at some of the threads, but couldn't come to a conclusion wether it
was wise to play around with the kernel which is what I think was being
suggested.
There is a swapoff command I could use just before shutdown. The handbook that
comes with SuSE 7.0 suggests that you should never assign no swap space at
all, even with machines with 256Mb and over, and even suggest you should never
turn the machine off because of the benefits of the way Linux uses the swap
file
I'm hoping that I will be able to find out why the swap doesn't always turn
off, but in the meantime "swapoff" will put me out of a bit of misery :-)
Thanks,
Ken
Robert Davies wrote:
> A recent thread on the LKML suggested you should be safe enough just
> commenting out 'swapoff', as it's a bit pointless really, unless you are
> using swap files, rather than partitions.
>
> Rob
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From: Riyaz Mansoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 530 Graphics Card
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:50:43 +1000
try writing the refresh rates of your monitor as comma separated lists in
your XF86Config file.
Chris Nappin wrote:
> I'm having trouble getting Red Hat 7.1 (XFree86 v4.0.3-5) to work with
> my graphics card - an SiS 530 (8MB shared RAM). It supports up to
> 1024x768 at 16-bits, but I've not been able to get it to work at any
> resolution or bit depth: the screen is corrupted and not legible -
> with random black lines and interference flickering accross the
> screen.
>
> I know that there is no hardware problem, because it works in Win98.
> And previously the card worked fine under Corel Linux and Mandrake
> versions 7.0 and 7.1 (which use XFree 86 v3.x). I've tried setting the
> card to 4MB and 8MB, tried all supported resolutions and bit depths,
> and tried using the "sis" and default drivers. I've been trying to
> sort this out for several days now, and would really appreciate some
> help.
>
> Would upgrading to XFree86 v4.1.0, or downgrading to v3.3.6, help? If
> so, how do I downgrade using the Red Hat RPMs, without reinstalling my
> root partition?
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris Nappin.
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Hard Drive Re-partitioning
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:43:06 +0200
In comp.os.linux.misc Skylar Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just got a new SCSI hard drive, and am having some trouble repartitioning it. I
>would
Well, fix your scsi setup then! Something as basic as that not working
indicates that your scsi system is fouled.
It is usually cabling or termination (lack of). Check the kernel
messages with dmesg.
Peter
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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hard drive performance w/ hdparm
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:19:05 +0100
Michael Perry wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:50:17 +0100, Robert Davies
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Mike W. wrote:
>>
> you get by adding a hdparm stanza. I don't know about the chipset being
> automatically determined or not. But my system went from barely 2mb to
> almost 30mb and I can reboot without hdparm stanzas and see that same old
> behavior with the issues I had with disk performance bottlenecks.
You could get this by using hdparm with 2.2, I did but there again it was
my job to run servers, and when I moved over to IDE disks from SCSI, I
_had_ to know how to tune them correctly.
Now with 2.4 and 2.2.18 it's counter productive.
Until 2.2.18 (IIRC) the ATA-100 IDE patches were not integrated into the
kernel, but had to be applied seperately, which is why the behaviour has
changed, and folk say things like 'HPT370, HPT366 or Promise Ultra100' not
supported.
> I personally think that there are gray areas with drives and chipsets and
> that one needs to check out what they are getting by default and do the
> requisite research to tighten up on the drive.
>
> I would also like the hdparm man page to get updated since as you mention
> some things are obsolete. The truth is that the 2.4 kernel does not set
> optimum ide/eide parameters for me. I bet it does not for others as well.
> Thanks for your pointers though. I appreciate reading through the old
> kernel mailing lists every now and again.
If you tweak, check first, I smelled a Via chipset here, and lots of ppl
have had corruption. You do backup your whole system regularly don't you?
Most ppl should trust the driver now, and not bother with hdparm, those
with Via chipsets should start searching with key words 'via and
corruption' before they do tuning. If the kernel doesn't do a good job
tuning, it's for a reason (it's not due to laziness on the drivers part).
You may find your chipset, or drive in one of the black lists.
Rob
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From: Robert Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DRI under kernel 2.2.14 ??
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:06:05 +0100
Martin Litzenberger wrote:
> hello
>
> I have an "old" suse 6.4 distr. with kernel V. 2.2.14 installed and
> upgraded to xfree86 4.0.2 (which works fine). now i want to install the
> DRI but the readme's say you need kernel V. => 2.3 .
>
> is there a way to compile the DRI-module under kernel 2.2.14 ?
> or even better - are there pre-compiled DRI modules for 2.2.14 ?
Yes, you 'simply' backport the DRI driver to 2.2.14 from 2.4 kernel.
> also the docu. says "rage 128 PRO" video cards are not supported by the
> DRI (i have a ATI Xpert 2000pro installed). is there a workaround ? will
> rage128 pro maybe work with the rage128 driver, but slower?
Yes, 'simply' add support to XFree 4 for you 'rage 128 PRO', and the kernel
DRI driver.
SuSE 6.4 have updates on their ftp site, you should upgrade your kernel,
and other stuff.
If you want kernel 2.4, and DRI etc upgrade SuSE to 7.2, either by buying
a personal edition, buying an upgrade professional, installing over ftp, or
download 7.2 from the ftp site, when it's available and install from disk.
Rob
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