Linux-Setup Digest #458, Volume #21 Sun, 17 Jun 01 07:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: epson printer miracle (Dave Uhring)
Removing IDE drive (Eric Liszka)
Re: HELP! KERNEL COMPILATION (Paul Kimoto)
RH7.1 Kernel Compilation Problems ("David Goldsmith")
Re: US Robotics 56k Fax Win Int + RedHat 7.1 ... HELP !!! ("arthur")
Re: Removing IDE drive ("Duane Healing")
Re: Changing physical location of IDE drive (Mike W.)
Re: RH7.1 Kernel Compilation Problems ("Maximus Idius2")
Re: install linux on one harddrive and windows on another? ("Eric en Jolanda")
Re: Mandrake8.0 with Earthlink DSL ("Gary Sanford")
Re: epson printer miracle (Olaf Stauffer)
Re: Changing physical location of IDE drive (Mike W.)
Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 630 Graphics Card (Yongchun Zhang)
any Iomega ZIP USB users? (Ray)
Re: USB mouse and kernel config (Andrey Shipsha)
Re: Mouse problem SuSe 7.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: epson printer miracle
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:26:41 -0500
Olaf Stauffer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I already got an answer to my question. I had to kill this process:
>
> root 19210 0.0 1.4 2720 900 ? S 16:10 0:08
> parallel:/dev/lp0
>
> This was still shoving the data - so no miracle, after all ;-)
>
> But, I'm still upset with the documentation though ...
>
>
> cu
>
> Olaf
>
>
>
>
Well, I guess you have never had a printer f*ck up with Windoze either.
And your Windoze documentation was a great help there, too.
man lpc
man lpq
man lprm
far more documentation than those people from Redmond supply.
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From: Eric Liszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Removing IDE drive
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:56:51 -0600
While we're on IDE....I have a 1.6 GB disk which holds the /boot, /var
and /tmp partitions, the
disk is hdb. I want to move /boot and /tmp into dir's under root, and
move /var under /usr,
then create a link under root. root and all other partitions are on
hdd. Any way to do this
nicely, and without reinstalling??
Thanks,
Eric Liszka
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: HELP! KERNEL COMPILATION
Date: 16 Jun 2001 22:54:02 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Glitch wrote:
> well you need to install the kernel source, however I would suggest just
> downloading the newest kernel from ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux and
> after its done do the following in /usr/src (after deleting the "linux"
> link):
>
> tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz (assuming u downloaded the tar.gz version)
>
> This will create a directory called linux. Enter it and read the README.
This file should tell you something like:
: Do NOT use the /usr/src/linux area! This area has a (usually
: incomplete) set of kernel headers that are used by the library header
: files. They should match the library, and not get messed up by
: whatever the kernel-du-jour happens to be.
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: "David Goldsmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH7.1 Kernel Compilation Problems
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:28:09 -0400
I have a RH7.1 system that I want to be able to read NTFS file systems on.
The stock 2.4 kernel and modules included in the distro did not include the
ntfs.o module.
I have two mountable filesystems on my primary drive: /dev/hda1 is /boot
(15MB) and /dev/hda5 is / (2000MB).
My first attempts were with compiling the 2.4.2.2 kernel source include in
RH7.1 using gcc. I could compile the kernel but I could not compile the
modules. I got all kinds of warnings. By starting over with a clean .config
file and only adding all filesystems as modules I got better results but
still had an error (noautodma was referenced in a number of files but never
declared).
I decided to upgrade to the newest kernel source (2.4.5) and was able to
compile both the kernel and the modules. However the installation of the
kernel did not work correctly. It was copied to /boot and lilo was executed
however, when I tried to reboot from the new kernel, I got an error message
about the root filesystem not being mounted (it referenced 3,5 which is the
major/minor device numbers for the hda5 partition.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Dave Goldsmith
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From: "arthur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: US Robotics 56k Fax Win Int + RedHat 7.1 ... HELP !!!
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 20:46:34 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rahul"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Clive for your reply.
>
> Hummm ...
>
> So there is "no" way that I can make use of my current modem to talk
> with RedHat 7.1 ? I need to purchase a new modem for this ? In that
> case, can anyone please advise for selecting "good" modem for homepc?
>
I like the USR 3CP5610 or its OEM equivalant 2976 for far less money.
USR has a voice and a non-voice version. I prefer the non-voice because
I have no use for the voice version. In the OEM versions, there is the
2976 and 2977 (I forget which is which) and retail versions 3CP6510 and
(I believe) 3CP5611. Go to the USR site and look them up. You may not
find much on the OEM versions though.
The OEM versions come without the USR CD. The CD has a nice Win95/8
modem monitor and a usable FAX program. Hope this helps. Your other
alternate is an external modem for a bit more money. All external modems
will work on Linux because it attaches to one of your serial ports.
You may already have the 2 USR programs that come on their CD and the
monitor may work on the non-winmodems. You can probably sell your
winmodem to recoup some of the cost.
Whatever you do don't buy a junk or off brand modem. Zoom is good too
but I don't know much about them. If you have a free ISA slot you will do
well to buy the USR ISA modem but be sure to get the non-winmodem
version. Its the one that they say (at their site) will work on Linux.
Sorry but I don't know the OEM and retail models for the ISA modems.
To install a PCI non-winmodem you may have to use the Linux setserial
command if the install program can't automagically set it up.
See the how-to's. You may also have to make sure that the PCI slot you
use doesn't share with another PCI serial device such as the USR ports.
You may want to consult with your computer manufacturer tech. help people
before you proceed.
Hope this helps
Arthur ( remove .remove to email )
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing IDE drive
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 05:15:01 GMT
In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "Eric Liszka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
flailed at the keyboard thusly:
> While we're on IDE....I have a 1.6 GB disk which holds the /boot, /var
> and /tmp partitions, the
> disk is hdb. I want to move /boot and /tmp into dir's under root, and
> move /var under /usr,
> then create a link under root. root and all other partitions are on
> hdd. Any way to do this
> nicely, and without reinstalling??
>
This ought to do the trick:
1. Go into single-user mode "shutdown now"
2. Unmount the affected filesystems "umount /var /tmp /boot"
3. Perform your filesystem legerdemain (left as an exercise for the reader)
4. Puree your /etc/fstab accordingly. (do I really need to provide an example?)
5. Remount your filesystems "mount -a"
6. Doublecheck that everything is where it belongs. (some combo of df and ls)
7. Bring your system back to it's normal runlevel "init `grep initdefault /etc/inittab
|cut -f2 -d:"
8. Enjoy a refreshing beverage.
The only potential snag I can forsee would be some processes that don't
die on the way down to single-user but still use files in the affected
filesystems. You may have to resort to booting a rescue disk of some
sort so that you're not using the hd at all and then doing the deed.
Oh, and as a matter of principle, re-installing is almost never necessary
short of massive hardware failure. This ain't some shoddy Micro$oft
product!
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike W.)
Subject: Re: Changing physical location of IDE drive
Date: 16 Jun 2001 22:37:00 -0700
Thanks Nils and Brandon! I got it working. Well, sort of. The first
time, it booted up fine. Then I changed lilo.conf again, (to add my
kernel parameters "ide3=ata66") ran lilo -v, and reboot, and it crashed
upon reading the MBR (just after floppy seek).
I got:
LI
LI
on the screen. I changed lilo.conf again back to what it was before,
ran lilo -v, reboot, same thing.
I'm currently booting from a floppy. Why would it boot off the HD
(in its new location) the 1st time, then not?
Thanks,
-Mike
"Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mike W."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have Linux installed on /dev/hdf (slave on 3rd channel), but I want to
> > move it to /dev/hdg (master on 4th channel), in order to put it on a
> > separate channel.
> >
> > Can I do this w/o reinstalling Linux?
> >
>
> yes, you will need to make appropriate changes in lilo.conf if you are
> using LILO and also change some field values in /etc/fstab. After those
> changes rerun lilo and after u boot up with the new location of the drive
> it should work like nothing changed in the first place.
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From: "Maximus Idius2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7.1 Kernel Compilation Problems
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:00:17 +0900
This kind of error / kernel panic is what I do not understand in Redhat.
Probably I am still a newbie - and would be ever so - and need to learn
more about kernel alone.
In a total of about 30 times reinstalling and recompiling redhat, I got
several different results, although all of them are with RH 7.1 and
new kernels 2.4.3, 2.4.4 and 2.4.5.
Now I have one spare hard disk with FAT on it to exchange files.
Being simple is the lesson I learned, which does not mean that I stop
learning.
max
---
"David Goldsmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a RH7.1 system that I want to be able to read NTFS file systems on.
> The stock 2.4 kernel and modules included in the distro did not include
the
> ntfs.o module.
>
> I have two mountable filesystems on my primary drive: /dev/hda1 is /boot
> (15MB) and /dev/hda5 is / (2000MB).
>
> My first attempts were with compiling the 2.4.2.2 kernel source include in
> RH7.1 using gcc. I could compile the kernel but I could not compile the
> modules. I got all kinds of warnings. By starting over with a clean
.config
> file and only adding all filesystems as modules I got better results but
> still had an error (noautodma was referenced in a number of files but
never
> declared).
>
> I decided to upgrade to the newest kernel source (2.4.5) and was able to
> compile both the kernel and the modules. However the installation of the
> kernel did not work correctly. It was copied to /boot and lilo was
executed
> however, when I tried to reboot from the new kernel, I got an error
message
> about the root filesystem not being mounted (it referenced 3,5 which is
the
> major/minor device numbers for the hda5 partition.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave Goldsmith
>
>
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From: "Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: install linux on one harddrive and windows on another?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 08:53:50 +0200
> : You should have used the map-drive command.
>
> Sorry, if this question sounds a bit foolish, I just want to make sure I
> understand it correctly. Does map-drive make the computer switch the
primary
> and secondary IDE cables? And in that case, where can I find some
> documentation on it, manuals or smth?
>
It alters the BIOS numbering of discs, which is what windows needs, as it's
bootloader has this value hardcoded. Documentation comes with lilo.
try `locate user_guide.ps` on your system. It has all the information you're
going to need about LILO.
Eric
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From: "Gary Sanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake8.0 with Earthlink DSL
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 03:24:15 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Gary Sanford"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When trying to connect with PPPOE, I keep on getting "connection failed"
> Does anyone have any ideas?
> It works fine with RASPPOE in win98se.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Gary Sanford
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nevermind, I finally got it working........
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From: Olaf Stauffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: epson printer miracle
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:55:36 +0200
Hi,
Dave Uhring wrote:
> Olaf Stauffer wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I already got an answer to my question. I had to kill this process:
>>
>> root 19210 0.0 1.4 2720 900 ? S 16:10 0:08
>> parallel:/dev/lp0
>>
>> This was still shoving the data - so no miracle, after all ;-)
>>
>> But, I'm still upset with the documentation though ...
>>
>>
>
> Well, I guess you have never had a printer f*ck up with Windoze either.
> And your Windoze documentation was a great help there, too.
>
> man lpc
> man lpq
> man lprm
>
> far more documentation than those people from Redmond supply.
Well, I was talking about the documentation of the printer itself. The
linux printing system is well documented.
My complains were about Epson because they mostly suplied documentation on
how to deal with the printer software under Windows or Macintosh, nothing
else.
cu
Olaf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike W.)
Subject: Re: Changing physical location of IDE drive
Date: 17 Jun 2001 01:04:22 -0700
Thanks guys, finally I made it work. I was getting the "LI boot hang",
but I fixed it by telling LILO that hde was bios 0x80 and hdg was bios 0x81.
The docs say if you don't tell it, it "guesses" which drive is which
bios #. I guess it "guessed" wrong. I don't know why it was a problem.
One kind of gets the feeling the people who designed these systems were
lacking serious wattage. Talk about gratuitous complexity. I mean,
how many identities/names does a drive need to have? 0x80, /dev/hde,
master on 3rd ide channel, C:, "the drive with my Windows stuff"---
and only two are meaningful: physical location, and what's on the drive.
-Mike
"Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mike W."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have Linux installed on /dev/hdf (slave on 3rd channel), but I want to
> > move it to /dev/hdg (master on 4th channel), in order to put it on a
> > separate channel.
> >
> > Can I do this w/o reinstalling Linux?
> >
>
> yes, you will need to make appropriate changes in lilo.conf if you are
> using LILO and also change some field values in /etc/fstab. After those
> changes rerun lilo and after u boot up with the new location of the drive
> it should work like nothing changed in the first place.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yongchun Zhang)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 630 Graphics Card
Date: 17 Jun 2001 01:44:42 -0700
I made stupid mistakes by including the Sis630 video card support in my previous
kernel building efforts. After I remove it, both 2.4.3 and 2.4.5 compiles fine
and are able to boot to text mode. Now my problem is just the X! The only time I
was able to boot into X is with my RedHat 7.1 @640x480, with the "shifted" screen.
Never once with Mandrake 8.0, except running it's xf86cfg.
I don't know why Xconfigurator always causes segmentation fault in Mandrake. The
xf86config and xf86cfg seem out of date too :-(.
I had made my XF86Config file almost the same as in that link. Now my problem is
when I run startx, it fails with the following error message:
" Fatal server error:
open_framebuffer: failed to open /dev/fb0 (no such device)
XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
It's weird since my /dev/fb0 is right there. I have even removed them all, and
mknod, still doesn't work.
I have tried the instruction from SiS at first time and doesn't work.
BTW, I have figured out what that "vga =0x317" thing means. It's an option in
your lilo.conf file.
Thanks a lot for all your help. Wish me luck.
Yongchun
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From: Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: any Iomega ZIP USB users?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:09:34 +0100
hi
i'm considering buying an external Iomega Zip 100 USB drive to use with
my laptop (toshiba sat pro 4340) which has an Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB
controller and running linux 2.4.3.
i've looked at
http://www.linux-usb.org (this list the mass storage drv in the
kernel as experimental?)
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices
http://www.iomega.com/software/linuxtools.html
and they seem to indicate that the Iomega zip 100 USB does work,
although there is mixed reports about the drivers that are availbel for
this device - the kernel ubs_storage.o and the iomega provided utils
(for 2.4.0pre).
also, i have heard/read somewhere that different versions of the zip100
use different protocols, and wondered if this would be a problem when
using the kernel driver (which i would prefer to use)
if anyone could give me any hints on their current working
configurations; part numbers from the devices/kernel output would also
be useful.
thanks for any info
ray
ps - could ppl CC me on replies - thanks again...
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From: Andrey Shipsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB mouse and kernel config
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:09:02 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maximus Idius2 wrote:
>
> "Andrey Shipsha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Could anyone share a succesfull config file for 2.4.x kernels
> > (preferably 2.4.5) with working USB mouse configuration...
> >
> > My USB mouse works as a charm in default Redhat 7.1 kernel (2.4.2). I am
> > trying to compile the new 2.4.5 kernel and I can't get my USB mouse to
> > work.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Andrey.
>
> I have exactly this problem with both RH 7.0 and 7.1; right after
> recompiling
> new kernel, 2.4.4 or 2.4.5.
>
> Once I asked this question but no answer comes. Is there anything missed
> in the recompilation ? I don't know.
>
> Hope someone would offer an answer.
I think I figured out how to solve the problem. You could find a default
Redhat kernel config files following this link:
http://www.jsward.com/linux/redhat-kernel.html
Then I simply copied the sections regarding USB from the default config
into my own config for 2.4.5 kernel. It works now.
Cheers,
Andrey.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mouse problem SuSe 7.1
Date: 17 Jun 2001 10:28:42 GMT
Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:> Hi,
:> I've just installed Linux 7.1, running KDE 2.0.1, after initial
:> installation the mouse works fine, but on boot up afterwards the mouse is
:> dead, theres a cursor but no movement, the installation never askes about
:> mouse setting's I've tried to check if theres a driver (Module ?) loaded
:> but I've no idea how to navigate without the mouse which makes thing
:> difficult. any ideas ?
:>
:> In case you haven't guessed I'm a complete newcomer !
:>
:>
:> cheers,
:>
: Perhaps you would like to tell the world what kind of mouse you have and
: show us the appropriate section from your XF86Config file?
Sorry,
The mouse is a Dell mouse made by Logitech, and the relevant section (I
think) is as follows
Section "InputDevice"
Driver , "mouse"
Identifier , "Mouse[1]"
Option , "Device" , "/dev/psaux"
Option , "Emulate3Buttons" , "on"
Option , "Name" , "Autodetected"
Option , "Protocal" , "ps/2"
Option , "Vendor" , "AutoDetected"
EndSection
Thanks in advance,
--
Mark Scudder
Senior Photographer
Cambridge University Library
West rd, Cambridge
CB3 9DR, England
(44) 01223 333107/8
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