On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:36:29 +0100
Michal Suchanek <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 17 December 2013 07:09, Siarhei Siamashka
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:13:11 +0200
> > Tsvetan Usunov <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Siarhei
> >> You are right, the RPI fans are a bit dissapointed by the Debian image
> >> generated from Linux-Sunxi GitHub and no hardware acceleration.
> >
> > It's not just RPI fans. Trying your debian image (on a cubieboard,
> > because I don't have lime yet) was kinda a wake up call for me.
> > And I have also seen some other less than perfect linux distros
> > earlier. People here may be developing some nice software, trying
> > their best to optimize it, but still get their efforts wasted by
> > the "last mile" problem. If distro maintainers don't do a really
> > good job, then the end users have poor experience and a wrong
> > impression about the performance of the hardware.
> 
> We don't even have anything of value to distro maintainers. Distro
> wants something stable that can be packaged and forgot.

I don't quite agree here. The value of the linux distributions for the
end users are timely updates with the important bugfixes (security fixes
at least) and first-line support for the basic user problems (also
communicating upstream when necessary).

The "packaged and forgot" approach would mean a poor job done on their
side. Yes, they do unpaid volunteer work and we can't demand/expect
much. But most of us are doing the unpaid volunteer work too when
contributing to linux sunxi.

> With the rapid development of sunxi you would need new package of
> something every week.
> 
> >
> > I'll try to make a desktop linux demo image available in a few days,
> > so that people could compare it with their current distros :)
> 
> Maybe like an image with checkouts of the current drivers and libs
> somewhere in /usr/src or /opt and symlinks and configuration files in
> place to use the files built from these checkouts.
> 
> Then you update by git pull && make.
> 
> That is pretty much what I use but I have quite hackish image where
> some libraries are symlinked from the source dir, some are installed,
> some are copied because make install puts them in a wrong place, etc.

My vision for this is just some sort of a demo sdcard image, similar
to what they do with livecd in the desktop world. No need for a
properly configured installation with all the security and regular
updates in place. That's would be the job of the distro maintainers,
and I don't want to eat their lunch ;)

Still we can showcase the basic tasks like internet browsing, video
playback, office applications, games and other cool things. All running
with decent performance, just like it should preferably do in a good
linux distro.

-- 
Best regards,
Siarhei Siamashka

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