On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:30:53PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 13-04-15 17:50, Paul Kocialkowski wrote:
> >After working a bit on sunxi recently, I found myself somewhat puzzled
> >with the ways sunxi devices are named in mainstream U-Boot, mainstream
> >Linux (device-tree), sunxi-boards and the linux-sunxi wiki. What bothers
> >me particularly is the lack of consistency across those projects and
> >among devices. This is clearly not a technical topic of interest, but
> >all that disparity and lack of consistency is starting to annoy me a
> >lot.
> >
> >Currently, there are apparently no guidelines (or nobody cares to
> >respect or enforce them) on most of those projects. I would like to
> >discuss this problem with the maintainers of each of those so that we
> >could find a common and consistent way of naming sunxi devices, convert
> >the already supported devices to comply with the new naming scheme and
> >stick to it in the future. I know that a fair share of people just don't
> >care about it, but I hope that the maintainers for those projects will
> >see some interest in it.
> >
> >First off, such a change will probably mess up a few hand-written build
> >scripts and bother a few people at first, but I think it's better to do
> >it now instead of waiting or not doing anything about it.
> >
> >To summarize, the current situation varies a bit depending on each
> >project:
> >
> >U-Boot:
> >* Defconfig targets allow the use of upper-case, lower-case, dashes and
> >underscores
> >* Most targets follow the following scheme: [Vendor]_[Model]_defconfig
> >* Some targets do not respect the vendor or model typography
> >(A20-Olinuxino-Lime2 is not correct for the model part, it should be
> >A20-Olinuxino-LIME2)
> >* Some targets use dashes to mark spaces in either the vendor or model
> >part
> >* Some devices add prefixes to the configs
> >
> >Linux:
> >* Device-tree sources have a clear naming scheme,
> >a[xx]-sun[x]i-[device].dts, that only allows lower-case and dashes
> >* However, what [device] is is unclear and sometimes includes the vendor
> >name, sometimes not
> >
> >sunxi-boards:
> >* FEX files are all lower-case and allow dashes and underscores
> >* There is no clear scheme for the naming of devices, some files include
> >the vendor name, some don't
> >* Some files use dashes to mark spaces in either the vendor or model
> >part
> >
> >linux-sunxi wiki:
> >* The scheme to follow should be [Vendor]_[Model] and upper-case,
> >lower-case, dashes and underscores are allowed
> >* Some pages may not respect that convention
> >* Some targets do not respect the vendor or model typography
> >(A20-Olinuxino-Lime2 is not correct for the model part, it should be
> >A20-Olinuxino-LIME2)
> >* Some targets use dashes to mark spaces in either the vendor or model
> >part
> >
> >My proposal to unify all this is the following:
> >* linux-sunxi wiki: use the [Vendor]_[Model] convention while respecting
> >the correct typography for the vendor and model names (as defined by the
> >vendor) and using underscores for spaces
> >* Use exactly the same name for the U-Boot configs, except in the case
> >mediawiki automatically adds an upper case at the beginning of the page
> >name (iNet becomes INet but we should still use iNet in the U-Boot
> >config)
> >* Use that name with all underscores replaced by dashes and all caps
> >changed to lower-case in the Linux device-tree names
> >* Use that name with all caps changed to lower-case in sunxi-boards
> >
> >I am willing to submit patches for each projects and update the wiki
> >pages for each concerned device following this convention. Especially, I
> >would need Maxime's approval for the Linux part, Hans and/or Ian's
> >approval for U-Boot and an overal feeling of approval for the wiki and
> >sunxi-boards parts.
> >
> >Please let me know what you think about all this!
> >
> 
> 
> So my 2 cents on this are:

I guess it was 3 cents ? ;)

> 1) The dts file name is an ABI between u-boot and the kernel and as such
> cannot be changed for existing boards. But coming up with and documenting
> some standards for new boards may be a good idea.

I never thought of the DTS filename, but I guess that's true,
especially if we don't consider the DT bindings themselves as an ABI
(even though that starts to backfire a bit), since we have to at least
provide some consistency to the downstream users.

Maxime

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Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

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