Hi KH:
I think what Luc said is very true. The efficiency and power of open source
community in helping developing a new thing depends on how open the hardware
upstream is toward to the spec of the hardware. I am not currently working on
Ubuntu arm port, but I am woring on other Linux (e.g., Mageia) to an Arm SBC
board, (r.g., Banana Pi M1 using allwinner A20). Once you have more developing
boards available, I'd like to see whether I can also install Linux bootlaoder
to your pine64. Let me know once you have it.
Regards
Shelandy
KH Goh於 2015年12月2日星期三 UTC-6上午12時35分49秒寫道：
> Hi Priit Laes,
> Thank for the info. Currently we are in the process of sorting out our
> documentation. Will update in the http://linux-sunxi.org/New_Device_howto
> once it is ready.
>
>
> Anyway, the regulator used in Pine64 is AXP803 and the Wifi/BT is Realtek
> RTL-8273.
>
>
> Regards,
> KH Goh
>
> On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 3:12:21 PM UTC+8, Priit Laes wrote:On Sat,
> 2015-11-28 at 17:43 -0800, KH Goh wrote:
>
>
>
> [...]
>
> > In terms of the hardware, at the moment we are having 2 unit of
>
> > Pine64 Engineering board (Please refer here for the
>
> > spec http://pine64.com/product ), and would like to donate it to the
>
> > community for further evaluation and testing. Since we are a newcomer
>
> > in this community, we would like you to advise us on who and where
>
> > should we send the 2 board to.
>
>
>
> You can already start with the new device howto - http://linux-sunxi.or
>
> g/New_Device_howto
>
>
>
> This would be a nice second step to working together with community.
>
>
>
> Do you also have access and/or permission to "publish" the datasheets
>
> (A53, AXP??? and Wifi/BT) and BSP?
>
>
>
> Also, on http://pine64.com/product#intro could you label all the ports
>
> and expansion headers (I can see from the board that there are
>
> headers/sockets for TP, CSI, DSI, RTC, VBAT, POWER, UART). And what
>
> regulator chip (AXP???) and wifi/bluetooth chip does it use?
>
>
>
> And a typo "muti-channel" on that page.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks for your advise and appreciate your kind assistance.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > KH Goh
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Saturday, November 28, 2015 at 9:01:31 PM UTC+8, Luc Verhaegen
>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 12:38:16AM -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > We are a group of people currently trying to come out with a very
>
> > > low
>
> > > > cost single board computer, by making use of Allwinner Quadcore
>
> > > 1.2Ghz
>
> > > > 64-bit A53 CPU. The target costing for the single board computer
>
> > > is
>
> > > > USD15. The hardware will have a 4K HDMI video output and on board
>
> > > > ethernet connection. Further more, each board will has its own
>
> > > unique
>
> > > > MAC address. The objective for this project is to allow
>
> > > individual,
>
> > > > having the opportunity to learn IT knowledge with a friction of
>
> > > the
>
> > > > cost. Please refer to pine64.com for more detail on the hardware
>
> > > > specification.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Currently, the hardware development on the board is almost ready.
>
> > > And
>
> > > > with us, is the full Linux BSP with the true 64bit compiler. Due
>
> > > to
>
> > > > budget constrain and our limited know-how in Linux, We would like
>
> > > to
>
> > > > request the help from this community to bring up the Linux into a
>
> > > full
>
> > > > function Ubuntu desktop, thus allow the user to truly owning a
>
> > > fully
>
> > > > function open source computer with just a friction of the cost.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > As for the hardware itself, currently we are in the mist of
>
> > > building
>
> > > > some sample board to allow any interested developer to work on
>
> > > it.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Thanks and Regard,
>
> > > > KH Goh
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > >
>
> > > Thanks for contacting the canonical source of most things
>
> > > sunxi/allwinner before actually launching your kickstarter
>
> > > campaign.
>
> > >
>
> > > This is the first time since the original cubieboard that such a
>
> > > thing
>
> > > has happened. Many companies with similar products only afterwards
>
> > > find
>
> > > out to what extent they do depend on the linux-sunxi community, and
>
> > > then
>
> > > change their story in either direction. Often the work done by the
>
> > > people of the linux-sunxi community gets used directly,
>
> > > cloned/forked,
>
> > > and nothing is ever given back.
>
> > >
>
> > > As you can see, we (and while i do not speak for all of us, i know
>
> > > that
>
> > > i am not alone here) are sceptical about whoever approaches us like
>
> > > this, especially when one of the first statements is "budget
>
> > > constraints". You cannot expect the linux-sunxi community to do
>
> > > your
>
> > > work for you for free.
>
> > >
>
> > > You should however donate boards to many known and active linux-
>
> > > sunxi
>
> > > developers, but for that you must not expect anything in return.
>
> > > Whatever then happens, happens, or it doesn't. The results are
>
> > > usually
>
> > > quite positive, especially given the limited cost of said boards,
>
> > > but it
>
> > > will hardly ever consist of full support for your product
>
> > > (especially
>
> > > when based on a new SoC variant).
>
> > >
>
> > > If you wish to have more complete support, you can always try to
>
> > > hire
>
> > > known linux-sunxi developers directly, or work with those members
>
> > > of our
>
> > > community who do contracting. The choice is up to you.
>
> > >
>
> > > Thanks for reaching out to us before launching your marketing
>
> > > campaign,
>
> > > i hope that your collaboration with linux-sunxi ends up being just
>
> > > as
>
> > > fruitful as your kickstarter.
>
> > >
>
> > > Luc Verhaegen.
>
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