Is the sym driver the only problematic one? Matt
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 12:29:04AM +0100, Gérard Roudier wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Matthew Dharm wrote:
>
> > If you need 56 bytes for SCSI-4, then why not get 36 bytes, see if the
> > device is SCSI 4, then ask for the 56 bytes if it is.
>
> Nobody disagreed with this proposal.
>
> > Look, this issue is going to continue to haunt us as more and more
> > "emulated SCSI" devices and busses appear. And, no version of windows will
> > make an initial INQUIRY request for more than 36 bytes. Ever. Which means
> > that more and more devices will behave that way.
> >
> > Doesn't the SCSI-II spec call for doing things this way, anyway?
>
> Not at all. Only 36 bytes were _required_ to be returned and bytes 56 to
> 95 was reserved for future use but could be returned. They just weren't
> allowed to contain relevant information. Even SCSI-1 didn't limit INQUIRY
> data to 36 bytes (5 bytes followed by vendor unique).
>
> > Ask for
> > 36, determine how much is available, and then ask for it all? I know they
> > call out that procedure explicitly for mode pages...
>
> > Gerard (I hope that's an acceptable way to spell your name, given that I
> > don't know how to type the character after the 'G'), I just don't quite
> > understand your objection here... my concern was that I've been told that
> > some low-level drivers snoop the data (for some unknown reason), but that's
> > really my only concern.
>
> The sym drivers snoops the INQUIRY under Linux SCSI but does not under
> FreeBSD CAM. If Linux SCSI gets ever up-to-date about the device
> characteristics got from INQUIRY available to low-level drivers, the snoop
> will obviously go away.
>
> Gérard.
>
> > Matt
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 11:07:48PM +0100, Gérard Roudier wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Alan Cox wrote:
> > >
> > > > > A SCSI device that is broken for INQUIRY is definitely broken for SCSI.
> > > > > FYI, we need at least 56 bytes of INQUIRY data to be possible for SPC2
> > > > > (SCSI 4).
> > > >
> > > > Possible, but not required for the initial INQUIRY
> > >
> > > The Linux SCSI layer performs a single INQUIRY for the device discovery
> > > process. It was proposed to shorten this INQUIRY to 36 bytes.
> > >
> > > For now, all SCSI access methods I have ever seen perform a single
> > > INQUIRY for this scan.
> > >
> > > Gérard.
> > >
> > > PS:
> > > Btw, if what you want to say does not fit in your usual 2 lines of text,
> > > then you should take time to elaborate or just not to post or post later
> > > when you will have time enough.
> >
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