On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Calfee wrote:

> The answer is complicated. There is no "Windows" -- each version is slightly 
> different. win98 did things differently than xp does. I enclose a couple of 
> device enumerations from "XP home". I don't have access to a win98 machine 
> until this weekend. You will notice that the older 1.0 device (8 byte 
> control packets) was enumerated differently than the device that was for usb 
> 2.0 (with 64 byte control packets).

I didn't notice any significant difference other than the smaller 
maxpacket value (and the consequent use of multiple packets).

> These two dumps were processed (decoded) by an awk program from the original 
> html capture. Even though there is a lot of extra junk in them, I think they 
> show two complete enumerations.

Maybe the original HTML would have been easier to read!  :-)

The important point is that the initial Get-Device-Descriptor request is 
the same in all cases.  Windows asked for a 64-byte transfer and treated 
the 8-byte response from the low-speed device as a normal short packet.

The real test would be to see what Windows XP does with a device that
doesn't like this initial sequence.  I'm not aware of any such devices,
but it wouldn't be surprising to learn that some do exist.  When I tried
monkeying with a gadget driver (so that it failed to respond to the
initial 64-byte request) Windows 2000 simply refused to enumerate it at 
all.

I've already got a patch that does something like what we've seen.  It
uses the current approach first, and if that fails it switches to the
Windows approach.  Does this sound like a good thing to submit?

Alan Stern



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