Hi David,

should I copy the list, and you two when replying in the future?

David Brownell wrote:
> On Sunday 05 September 2004 3:32 pm, Robert Urban wrote:
> > 
> > by the way: I forget to mention that the drive only works (with
> > kernel 2.6.5) on one of the three USB busses present. 
> 
> Just three?    The EHCI controller reports there are three more
> busses in addition to EHCI ... you showed one UHCI, I'd expect
> there would be two more.  (Each UHCI bus having two ports,
> and the EHCI one having six.  I'm guessing this is an Intel
> controller; it doesn't look like VIA since the size of the periodic
> schedule is fixed at 1024 entries, it's not tunable.)

Well, it is indeed an intel controller: ICH4.  The MB has two soldered
jacks, both of which appear to be on bus 4:

lsusb:
  plugged into one of the two:
        Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0d49:7000 Maxtor
  plugged into other of the two:
        Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0d49:7000 Maxtor

otherwise there are two more jumper-blocks of 9 pins on the MB.
Two USB jacks connect to each jumper-block.  The MB docs claim:

        Intel ICH4 chipset
                - 6 USB 2.0/1.1 ports

this seems to correspond to what I have.

> 
> > Coincidentally, 
> > or not, the bus on which the drive works is the one whose jacks
> > are directly soldered to the MB, that is, the ones right next to
> > the serial, parallel, mouse, KB, ethernet, etc connectors at the
> > back.  The other (2) USB busses are connected to jacks via cables
> > that plug in to the MB.
> 
> Are you sure those are connected properly, rather than maybe
> being reversed?  The motherboard connectors I've seen were easy
> to hook up backwards, or even just offset by a row of pins or two.
> And some of those cables didn't seem to handle high speed signals
> all that well, either.
> 
> Since you're seeing catastrophic errors very early, a wiring
> problem like that could explain everything...

If they were reversed, I'm guessing low-speed devices (USB1.1) would not
work, yes?  But low-speed devices *do* work on all 6 ports (depending on
what kernel is booted...).  I'm pretty careful about connecting things.

I don't know if you're familiar with MSI products, and I don't know if all
their MBs are similar, but I've got 2 MBs of theirs, and they both came
with a so-called "D-Bracket" which simply has 4 LEDs which show HW status.
Also on the D-Bracket are two USB jacks connected to a 30-40cm cable which
plugs into a jumper-block on the MB.  I would be very surprised if MSI
delivered bundled HW with their MB which was bad...

cheers,

Robert Urban



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